diff --git a/Scraped/Developer Info/DOCS.txt b/Scraped/Developer Info/DOCS.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..ef6c88a --- /dev/null +++ b/Scraped/Developer Info/DOCS.txt @@ -0,0 +1,480 @@ +TECHNICAL DOCUMENTATON: + +ALL SERVER CONTROL COMMANDS: +NOTE!: Use no exclamation marks or quotes, etc. +./controlservers "MESSAGE Hi to everyone on horse isle." +./controlservers "MODMESSAGE Hi all mods on Horse Isle" +./controlservers "KICK BadPlayer" +./controlservers "MOTD Set the message of the day on all servers." +./controlservers RESET +Publish Beta Content to other servers: +./Propagatebeta.sh +----------------------------------------------------------------------------- +=================[ IN-GAME SERVER COMMAND FOR ADMINS ]======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------------- +%% Sends chat text to Just ADMINS +% BEEP makes a beep on the server end in case either jor or miranda is watching console +% RESET QUESTS resets your list of completed quests, and quest points. allows you to try threm over again for testing. +% CALL HORSE randomply grabs a horse to you +% PRISON Sends Player to prison isle +% KICK kicks player immediately off server, can log back in +% MUTE Mutes a player for a certain number of minutes +% UNMUTE Unmutes player +% DROP <#> Create a new object id at current location +% DROP Create a new object name at current location +% GIVE MONEY Server Gives player num money +% GIVE OBJECT Server Gives player object num +% GIVE OBJECT Server Gives player object with name +% VIEW STATS/INVENTORY shows other players inventory/stats (ITEMS NOT clickable) +% ? show users Current XY IP Location, no user=show YOUR xy +% GOTO NPC jumps you to the named computer character. +% GOTO AREA earton,appleton,treeton,flipperton,santa,santon,shellton,wington,chillton etc.. Jumps admin to city or Island center +% ^ shorthand alias for '%GOTO AREA' +% GOTO , Jump to map location +% GOTO Jump to players location +% JUMP HERE Jumps player to your location! (good for getting the player "unstuck"!) +% MESSAGE ALL Send a server notice to everyone connected +% SAVE MAP Save any changes to the world map +% DRAW MAP Rebuild the pixel game map +SHIFT + UP/DOWN Change Terrain Tile +1/-1 +SHIFT + RIGHT/LEFT Change Overlay Tile +1/-1 +SHIFT + CTRL Toggle "Footpainting" Walking duplicates tile you are on +% !<#> Set terrain tile to # +% @<#> Set overlay tile to # +% MAPT Change the title of the current location map info +% MAPD <text> Set the description of the current locations map info +% MAPE <UP/DOWN/RIGHT/LEFT> Set the Exit direction for building +% MAPC <text> Set the CODE of the current locations map info +% REFRESH MAPTABLE Reloads all of the map titles/etc off database. +% FILL <terrainid> Does a contiguous flood fill over tile you are on with new tileid +%ROADON Enable Walking roads! Does not handle intersections +%ROADOFF Disable Walking Roads! +% SHUTDOWN NOW shuts server down - does NOT save map +----------------------SUPER ADMIN COMMANDS ---------------------- +% DELETE PLAYERID # Complete removes all players info from many tables in database. +% LOAD MAP reLoad the world map +% BUILD MAP Build Terrain from map image +% BUILD MODE Allows editing of map tiles using shiftarrows and following +% TILERANDOM Randomizes all of the terrain that is good to randomize (the duplicate plain terrains) +% AUTOGENFOREST Randomly builds all forests on map +------------------------------------------------------------------ +==================[ SQL MAP LOCATION CODES: ]===================== +------------------------------------------------------------------ +JUMP-xx,yy Jumps to new x,y use for multi-tile buildings. all players should be in one tile per building +STORE-id Display Store id +FARRIER-id Display Farrier id +VET-id Display Vet id +GROOMER-id Display Groomer id +TRAINER-id Display Trainer id +INN-id Display INN id +ARENA-id Display ARENA id +POND Display pond location +BANK Display generic banking services +TRANSPORT Display all of the available routes in the transport table +MUDHOLE Display a mud hole location +WISHINGWELL Wishing well functionality +2PLAYER-Game 2 Player Game Setup +MULTIROOM multiplayer structureless setup +HORSE-Game Allow selecting horse to play minigame with, sends all stats to game. +RIDDLER Riddler display +WORKSHOP Display any crafts available at location +EXITABLE Simply Adds an Exit at the botton +HORSEWHISPERER Horse Whisperer +PASSWORD-SECRETWORD!444 Password required to activate the Action ID +------------------------------------------------------------------ +=========================[ META CODES: ]========================== +------------------------------------------------------------------ +^I43 - Display Icon #43 +^T1Apple Tree - Display Text Label SIZe 1=small 2=medium 3=big: Apple Tree +^R# - Next Line (1= jump 24 pixels down, 2=28,3=32, etc.. +^BD2345 - Button Second letter = mode + A=startnpc + npc id + H=replynpc + npc conversation point + M=load the swf + movie name + SW=showscores + Game identifier - Show top wins + SH=showscores + Game identifier - Show high score + ST=showscores + Game identifier - Show best times + N=wish + 1=money, 2=things, 3=world peace :) + Y=buytrans + transport id + Z=exittomap - for npc reply + 1 + extended player button functions follow + A=tradeaccept + trade id + J=tradereject + trade id + O=tradeobj + objects id + T=tradeplyr + player id + L=lookplyr + player id + B=addbuddy + player id + R=removebuddy + player id + W=showplyrmap + XXYY Show xy location on map! + S=socialsplyr + player id + D=drinkfountain + X=tag + buddy id + I=ignoreplyr + playerid + H=unignoreplyr + playerid + P=privatemessage + player name + 2 + extended multi-player game functions follow + I=Invite to game +player id + A=Accept game + player id + 3 + horse functions + B=barnhrs + horse id + E=hrsprofile + horse id + C=cleanhrs + horse id + F=feedhrs + horse id + G=groomhrs + horse id + JI=shodhrs + (IRON) horse id + JS=shodhrs + (STEEL) horse id + I=feedobj + ojects id + K=tackobj + objectid tack object on horse + N=unmounthrs + horseid + O=mounthrs + horseid + M=removetack + O=lookhrs + horse id + P=pethrs + horse id + R=trainhrs + horse id + T=tackhrs + horse id + U=capturehrs+ horse id + V=vethrs + horse id + X=releasehrs + horse id + 4 + object functions + A=obj Sell All + BF=buyobj + objects id buy FIVE existing objects + BE=buyobj + objects id buy existing object + BN=buyobj + object id buy new object + BE=buyobj + object id buy and consume new object (INN) + B5=buyobj + object id Buy 5 objects at once + C=craftobj + crafts id + D=dropobj + objects id + E=eatobj + objects id + G=grabobj + objects id + R=graball + object id + //I=dig + UR=userake UNCOVER + UB=usebinocs SEARCH + UM=usemagnify SEARCH + US=useshovel DIG + UT=usetelescope USE + K=drinkobj + objects id + LO=lookobj + objects id look at existing object + LN=lookobj + object id look at a new object + LC=lookobj + npc ID Look at NPC + O=openobj + objects id + V=readobj + R=read L=listall objects id + S=sellobj + objects id + T=throwobj + objects id + W=wearobj + objects id + X=removeobj + body part + Z=ripupobj + objects id + 5 + Socials! xnay on the rest, make dynamic! + 6 + Ranch functions + P=purchaseranch + ranch id BUY + U=upgraderanch UPGRADE + B=buildspot + building id + position BUILD + R=sellspot + position SELL + S=sell ranch + ranch id SELL + E=ranchprofile PROFILE + L=lookbuilding + building id ? + +^A+ Stats Box + B+ stat;stat;stat;etc... - Create basic stat graph + A+ SP base;SP companion;SP tack; SP max; +etc.. - Create advanced stat graph +^P+ Input codes + L+ title | contents - Input line with title and contents settable + M+ title | contents - money Input line with title and contents settable (only numbers!) + B+ vpixsize | contents - Input box with vertical size and contents settable + S+ id | button label - Input Submission Button with id and label settable +^S+ Dynamic submission box codes +^D + code | label - Dynamic Button +^Lthis is a long line -full line of text +^H - header full multilines +^N - NPC Multiline text box, that leaves room for sigle button on bottom right +^M - back to map button +^MM - back to map button AND close module!! (used when looking at horses) +^X - Exit Building button +^Z - end of MetaCodes +---------------------------------------------------------------------------- +=============================[ NETWORK CODES: ]============================= +---------------------------------------------------------------------------- +TO SERVER: (bytes) +(20)+ : Chat code + (20)+text : Global Chat + (21)+text : Local Chat + (22)+name|text : Private Chat + (23)+text : Buddy Chat + (24)+text : HERE Chat +(21)+ : Movement Code (alone means, just update info screen!) + (20) : Move Up + (21) : Move Down + (22) : Move Right + (23) : Move Left + (24) : Exit Building +(22)+ : Who's online? + (20) : Who's online global info display + (21) : Local Players ** Not Implemented ** + (22) : who's online global program call + (23) : Local Players program ** Not Implemented ** +(23) : Inventory List Request +(24) : Player Status Request (blank=list status) + (20) : Send just Description, for editing + (21) : Save the following as player description! + (30)+amount : Earned money + (40)+id : Earned Object id + (41)+id : Lost Object id + (50)+id : Activate Quest id (for pyramidmaze module, etc) + (51)+id : Activate AWARD id (for awardable scores module, etc) + (55)+id|amount : Horse id Gains amount experience + (60)+(20)+gameid : Won Game + (60)+(21)+gameid : Lost Game + (61)+gameid|score : game score result for tracking high scores + (62)+gameid|time : game time result for tracking best times + (80)+gameid : show top winners + (81)+gameid : show top scores + (82)+gameid : show top times +(25)+ : Horse Stats Request (blank = list horses) + (20)+id : Look at horse + (21)+id : Feed Horse + (22)+id : Tack Horse ** + (23)+id : Clean Horse ** + (24)+id : Pet Horse + (25)+id : Release Horse + (26)+id : Train hrs + (27)+id : Feed Object to horse + (28)+id : try to Capture a horse + (29)+id : Captured horse + (30)+id : Horse Escaped + (40)+id : Shod Iron on horse id + (41)+id : Shod steel on horse id + (42)+id : Cure horse on horse id + (43)+id : Horse Drink Pond Water (1/20 get sick) + (44)+(20)+id : Edit horse profile + (44)+(21)+id : Save horse profile + (50)+id : Groom horse id + (55)+id : Barn rest horse id + (60)+id : Tack object on horse + (61)+part : Remove tack off horse part + (70)+id : ride horse + (71)+id : stop ride horse +(30) + : Object modification codes + (20) + id : Grab Object with id + (21) : grab all! + (22) + id : open object with id + (30) + id : Drop Object with id + (31) + id : Throw object id + (40)(20) + id : Look at Objects id (exisiting object) + (21) + id : Look at Object id (new object) + (22) + id : Look at NPC id + (42) + id : Read Objects + (43) + id : Rip Up message + (50) + id : Buy Existing Object + (51) + id : Buy new Object + (52) + id : Consume object and buy + (53) + id : Buy 5 of the object + (54) + id : Buy 5 of existing objects + (60) + id : Sell Object + (61) + id : Sell all object of same obbject id + (70) + id : Wear object + (71) + part : remove object + (80) + id : drink object + (81) + id : eat object + (82) + id : drink from fountain + (90) : Dig at current location + (91) : Use binoculars + (92) : Use Magnifying Lens + (93) : Use Lantern + (100)+ id : Craft Object (crafts id) +(35) + : Ranch Ownership Modification Codes + (20) + id : Buy Ranch id + (21) + id : Sell Ranch id + (22) + id : Look at building id + (23) + id : Click Codes +0= cabin +1=buildspot #1,etc. + (24) + id : Updrade Ranch home + (25) + id : Build at position id + (26) + id : destroy building at position id + (27) + id : Edit Ranch Profile +(36) + : Auction House Codes + (40) + id : Bid $10 more on horse + (41) + id : Bid $100 more on horse + (42) + id : Bid $1000 more on horse + (43) + id : Bid $10000 more on horse +(40) + : NPC + (20) + id : Start COnversation with NPC ID + (21) + code : COntinue conversation with npc at code +(41) + id : Activate Transport id +(42) + : Inter-Player Function Codes + (20) + id : look at player id + (30) + id : add player to buddy list + (31) + id : remove player from buddy list + (35) + id : TAG! buddy is it.. + (40) + id : Begin trade procedure with player id + (50) + id : IGNORE playerid + (51) + id : unIGNORE playerid +(44) + wish : Wishing well Wish +(45) + score : Report Arena Competition Score result +(46) + gamecode : Show HighScores +(69) + code : Coded Dynamic Button Click with +(70) + code + input contents in order |+ : Coded Input Submission + #1 : Bank transactions +(79) + : Single player Module Requests +(80) + : Inter-Module Communication + (20) + id : Invite player id to play game + (21) + id : Accept game invitation with player id + (80) + data : send data to opponent + (81) + data : send data to everyone in room +(90) + + (20) + player id : Socials request + (21) + code : Dynamic Social Code Activated +(118) : Bird Eye Map request +(119) + X | Y : Client Map Click for info +(120) + : Builder Codes + (20) : +1 Ground Tile ID + (21) : -1 Ground Tile ID + (22) : +1 Overlay Tile ID + (23) : -1 Overlay Tile ID +(124) : Keep ALive Packet, ping-ponged after 1 min inactivity +(125) : CLient notification that player is quitting +(126) : MOTD Requested +(127)+user|pass : login +(127) (after login) ready for data, send all welcome packets + +FROM SERVER: (bytes) +(20)+ : Chat code + (20)+text : Global Chat + (21)+text : Local Chat + (22)+text : Private Chat +(21)+XX+YY+DATA : Map Data includes a flag byte8 to determine whether to reset movie +(22) : System Whois Reply +(24)+description : Edit Player Profile +(25)+id|name|description : Edit horse profile +(30) : Meta Codes for dynamically building InfoPane +(35) : SFX Codes +(40)+filename : Display external swf +(41)+filename : Display external swf in protected mode (Map transmissions do not close movie) for cutscenes +(42)+filename : Display external swf gently.. (dont load if one exists) +(80)+data : Pass data straight to module buffer: DATARECEIVE +(117)+overlay data : Overlay Data on which tiles to hide player when on +(118)+map data : bird eye map data +(119)+text : Mouseclick Location info +(120)+update tile at location from build mode +(121)+areas data : send info on all areas for map viewer at login +(122)+time|day|weather //update every minute +(122)+(19)+WEATHER // sudden non transitionsed weather change +(123)+money|mail|players // status bar update +(124) : Keep ALive Reply +(126) : MOTD +(127)+ : Login Attempt + (20): Successful + (21): Incorrect user/pass + (22): Failked + message +(128)+ message : Disconnect with message. +(129)+ Byte Codes for packet checking + Admin Flag + +------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +HOMEMADE LIGHTWEGIHT PACKET ENCRYPTION: +Use a server Function to Check Code, and make code. +Use on all Packets which should be verified (Money earned in module, etc) +X= chr(40)-chr(140) the CODES +Y= chr(40)-chr(140) the checksum +i= a random increment value 1-99 +p= coded packet number +Server sends random original code: [60][45][80][100][ i ] +[ X1 ][ X2 ][ X3 ][ Y ] + +X(p%4)+=Y +X%100 +Y=(X1+(X2*X3)-X2)%100 +----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- + + + + + +FLASH MODULES: +0,0 at upper left +416pixel wide x 288pixel high +make a EXITMODULE() function! clear intervals and DO NOT set EXIT=true in it!!! +set DATASEND= whatever datastring should be sent to server. include trailing newline! +read DATARECEIVE often to receive data from server/other clients +set ALLOWMOVE=true to allow player to use arrows to leave place +set RELOADABLE=true to allow mod reloading Clicking OK again, etc.. (default to mods started with button code) +set DONOTDISTRUD=true to mods that CANNOT be overwritten. . (arenas) +set module music/sound volume to _parent.VOLUME periodically? to adjust to vol control. +set PLAYMUSIC=true to shutoff Main Game music (for store submusic) +_parent.PLAYERNAME = players username string +IF YOU START AN INTERVAL IN Module, you MUST remove it also!! + + +================MODULE MUSIC CODE EXAMPLE: +PLAYMUSIC=true; //shutoff Main game music for own music +if (MUSIC==undefined) { + MUSIC=new Sound(this); + MUSIC.attachSound("MUSIC"); + MUSIC.start(0,9999); +} +if (_parent.VOLUME!=undefined) MUSIC.setVolume(_parent.VOLUME); //set volume to parent +function AdjustVolume() { MUSIC.setVolume(_parent.VOLUME); } ///callable function +====================END MUSIC CODE + +===================EXAMPLE HEADER CODE: + +_root.SendData(str); // send data to server +var DATASEND:String=""; //data to send to server +var DATARECEIVE:String=""; //data sent by server +var EXIT:Boolean=false; // kill this movie when true +var ALLOWMOVE:Boolean=false; //can player leave this movie by walking? +var DONOTDISTURB:Boolean=true; // DOnt allow loading a movie on top of this one. +=======================END HEADER + +==================EXAMPLE EXIT CODE: + +bEXIT.onPress= function() { + EXITMODULE(); + EXIT=true; +} +function EXITMODULE() { + clearInterval(INTERVAL); + Key.removeListener(oKeyListener); +} + +==============================END EXIT CODE + + +////// EXAMPLE EARN PLAYER MONEY CODE +DATASEND+=chr(24)+chr(30)+reward+"\n"; //send reward + +////// EXAMPLE SEND BEST TIME CODE +DATASEND+=chr(24)+chr(62)+"Barrel Racing|"+Math.round(Timer*100)+"\n"; //send highscore + +////// EXAMPLE SEND HIGH SCORE CODE +DATASEND+=chr(24)+chr(61)+"SLEIGHRIDE|"+Math.round(DISTANCE)+"\n"; //send highscore + + + +//SQL Queiries +// Users with highes bad pass attempts +SELECT * , count( * ) AS c FROM `badpassattempts` WHERE 1 GROUP BY user ORDER BY c DESC ; + +// USers that need removal +SELECT player.id,player.username, DATEDIFF(NOW(),GREATEST(FROM_UNIXTIME(player.loggedoff),FROM_UNIXTIME(playerextended.signedup),FROM_UNIXTIME(playerextended.subscribedtill))) AS timeoff, 30+playerextended.timesonline AS minimum FROM `player` LEFT JOIN playerextended ON player.id=playerextended.playerid WHERE 1 ORDER BY timeoff DESC; + +// Refferals by players +SELECT count(*) AS referrals,SUM(totalpayments),referredby FROM playerextended WHERE referredby!="" AND activationcode="" GROUP BY referredby ORDER by referrals DESC; + +// Income +SELECT type,MONTH(FROM_UNIXTIME(time)) AS RevenueMonth,SUM(fee) AS TotalFees,SUM(amount)-SUM(fee) AS TotalRevenue FROM payments where 1 GROUP BY MONTH(FROM_UNIXTIME(time)),type; + +// End of month income +SELECT TYPE , server, MONTH( FROM_UNIXTIME( time ) ) AS RevenueMonth, SUM( fee ) AS TotalFees, SUM( amount ) - SUM( fee ) AS TotalRevenue FROM payments WHERE TYPE != 'HORSEBUCKS' GROUP BY MONTH( FROM_UNIXTIME( time ) ) , server; + +// Particular Month Income for each server: +SELECT TYPE , server, MONTH( FROM_UNIXTIME( time ) ) AS RevenueMonth, SUM( fee ) AS TotalFees, SUM( amount ) - SUM( fee ) AS TotalRevenue FROM payments WHERE TYPE != 'HORSEBUCKS' AND MONTH( FROM_UNIXTIME( time ) )=4 AND YEAR(FROM_UNIXTIME( time ) )=2008 GROUP BY MONTH( FROM_UNIXTIME( time ) ) , server; + +// VERIFY TOTAL MONTH INCOME for each month: +SELECT TYPE , server, MONTH( FROM_UNIXTIME( time ) ) AS RevenueMonth, SUM( fee ) AS TotalFees, SUM( amount ) - SUM( fee ) AS TotalRevenue FROM payments WHERE TYPE != 'HORSEBUCKS' AND YEAR(FROM_UNIXTIME( time ) )=2008 GROUP BY MONTH( FROM_UNIXTIME( time ) ) ; + + +/// List all current Subscribers +SELECT username, playerid FROM `playerextended` WHERE FROM_UNIXTIME( subscribedtill ) > NOW( ); + + +//Find mods? +SELECT masterplayer.username, masterplayer.lastserver, masterplayer.age, masterplayer.email, sum( payments.amount ) AS payments, sum( ruleviolations.points ) AS vios FROM masterplayer LEFT JOIN payments ON payments.playerid = masterplayer.id LEFT JOIN ruleviolations ON ruleviolations.playerid = masterplayer.id WHERE masterplayer.age >17 AND masterplayer.lastserver = 'bay' AND masterplayer.moderator = 'NO' GROUP BY payments.playerid, ruleviolations.playerid ORDER BY vios, payments DESC diff --git a/Scraped/Fourm Archive/BUGS_2.html b/Scraped/Fourm Archive/BUGS_2.html deleted file mode 100644 index 3592f9e..0000000 --- a/Scraped/Fourm Archive/BUGS_2.html +++ /dev/null @@ -1,134 +0,0 @@ -<HEAD> -<TITLE>HORSE ISLE - Online Multiplayer Horse Game - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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VIEWING BUGS FORUM THREAD: Welcome to BUGS forum.
Welcome to BUGS forum. (by Joe) May 3 2007 6:00pm
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VIEWING BUGS FORUM THREAD: Awards
REPLY: (by SilverBeauty) Dec 20 2016 10:23pm
Hi!

I got the perseverance award (You have earned the Perseverance Award! $75,000 Bonus!) just now and got the 75k bonus that comes along with it.
However I was just looking through my awards and I noticed that the actual award still says it has a 15k bonus.
I know that the bonuses were changed to reflect our economy so I was just wondering if they were going to be changed in our awards lists (and I'm assuming the library? I forgot to check before I logged off) to show the new amount.

Thanks,
SilverBeauty - Cremello
REPLY: (by Miranda) Feb 10 2017 2:15pm
It's multiplying off that number, so we can't change it on there without then removing the multiplier. We put in the multiplier instead so we wouldn't have to manually tweak all the values. :)
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VIEWING BUGS FORUM THREAD: Flash crashing problems?
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 24 2017 12:27pm
Please update to Adobe Flash Version 25.

Version 24 crashes frequently, 25 works well. :)

You can Google Adobe Flash update and get the link.

Or the following without the spaces. (Yes, I know I have avoided the filter.) *laughing out loud!*

h t t p s :// get . adobe . com / flashplayer/
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VIEWING BUGS FORUM THREAD: Can't see what characters say?
REPLY: (by SaddlebredShow) Sep 21 2017 4:00pm
Whenever I try to talk to a non-player character I can not see what they're saying. All of my responses I can choose from are all listed but I just can't see anything they are saying. I've cleared my cookies/cache thing and I use google chrome as my browser. This has been going on since I re-joined about a week ago. Is there anything else I can do that will fix this?
REPLY: (by Pathfinder) Sep 22 2017 9:06am
Put your mouse on where the chat should be, and scroll up or down. It works for me. :)
REPLY: (by Mouse) Sep 23 2017 8:54pm
You can try zooming in or out, or highlighting their text.
Once you highlight the "missing" text, you'll be able to read it. I've been having this problem for a long time, not sure why it started doing this, but it'd be cool if it sometime got fixed.
REPLY: (by Kagomo) Sep 25 2017 9:58pm
I had the same problem when I went into Witherton to get the Saddle Isle bridge password from that girl! Needless to say it didn't help much. XD I have not tried the little tricks to get around this yet though, I'll have to do that and see if it works!
REPLY: (by Miranda) Mar 31 2018 4:08pm
This seems to be attached to the browser you're using as well as if you're zoomed in or not. It's not something we can 'fix' because it's not an overall glitch. It's how Flash and the text is cooperating with the zoom level of your browser.

So, if you run into this, I recommend changing the zoom of the game (on a Windows machine, go back to the website, hold Ctrl and scroll your mouse wheel or push + or -). If that doesn't help, I recommend trying a different browser to see if that one behaves better.
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VIEWING BUGS FORUM THREAD: Error in Automatic Login Authentication!
REPLY: (by Manta) Apr 26 2018 3:28pm
I can log in fine, but when I click the server choices it logs me back out. Same if I try to go to the forums. I then have to log in again.
REPLY: (by Indesii) Apr 26 2018 4:31pm
This is happening to me also, since just after the server maintenance update.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 26 2018 8:28pm
Can you get on or is this blocking your ability to log in?

What browser are you using?
REPLY: (by Indesii) Apr 26 2018 9:17pm
Not sure about Manta, but it lets me log in, I just have to keep re-logging in every time I click through to a new page. Log in - to forums - log in again - to the game forum - log in again - to the server list - log in again. I'm on Chrome.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 27 2018 12:21pm
Thanks, I'll pass this on to Miranda. I'm on Chrome and I'm not having that problem though.

Hopefully she can fix it. :)
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 27 2018 1:21pm
It's a privacy setting, change in privacy settings. The browser isn't saving the games cookies (data game stuff only cookies.) These keep you logged in between the web pages.

Check your privacy settings on Chrome. You need to allow sites to save and read cookie data turned on.

HI Cookies are not tracking cookies, they are just game data info to help you play the game and move from web page to web page.
REPLY: (by Indesii) Apr 28 2018 7:19am
Unfortunately it still does it for me! I can log into everything fine from mobile Chrome, so maybe it's an issue with my laptop. Not sure about Manta. Thank you though. I appreciate the help! I'll just log into the server through the direct link for now. :'D
REPLY: (by CookieDough) Apr 28 2018 8:17am
I've been having the same problem if I log in from Firefox or mobile Puffin. I'll try changing the privacy settings.
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VIEWING BUGS FORUM THREAD: Farley's Extreme Makeover sage glitch
REPLY: (by Aspen) Dec 23 2018 6:54pm
During Farley's Extreme Makeover, when you're raking in bushes looking for sage, you get the "You rake all over, but uncover nothing interesting" message in addition to the message telling you you found some sage.
REPLY: (by Miranda) Dec 24 2018 12:25pm
Could you let me know which location?
REPLY: (by Aspen) Dec 24 2018 12:49pm
This happens every time that you rake for sage and find a clump of it. It would be on the 2nd and 3rd Sand Isles, Dust Isle, and near Santon and Sandy Meadows, in the bushes of sage. There are 12 in total. As a follow-up, today I did the cowboy boots quest from Pirate Isle (forget the name) before the game update and did not have this issue with that quest, so it might be limited to just Farley's Extreme Makeover.
REPLY: (by Miranda) Apr 27 2019 1:52pm
It looks like those same sage plants are used for two different quests. Because of how our quest writing system is set up, I can't see a way to make it so that you don't end up getting that double message.
Sorry
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VIEWING BUGS FORUM THREAD: Not receiving the cash advance that windmills are suppose to give
REPLY: (by MightyHorse) Mar 31 2020 1:41am
I make about 35,000 from my windmills and have been off for at least 24hours and it is not adding the amount i enough from them to my interest?? Is it just mine or what?
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REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) Apr 9 2020 12:31pm
I'm not sure if you mean you expect it to show when you go to the bank, but Windmill money goes into your cash on hand, and then you can deposit it and it will earn interest.
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VIEWING BUGS FORUM THREAD: Loyada's Necklace
REPLY: (by Coelacanth) Apr 29 2020 7:54am
seems to be a bug with this quest. Loyada instructs to speak to Nolan, but when you go to speak with Nolan, there are no prompts for this quest.
REPLY: (by EquusKay) Apr 30 2020 4:25pm
Hey Coelacanth,

I just ran into and thought I had the same problem - it turns out you just need to talk to Fin first and find his anchor. Once you do that Nolan will should to you :)
REPLY: (by EquusKay) Apr 30 2020 4:26pm
should talk to you* xD
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VIEWING BUGS FORUM THREAD: QP Award Rewards
REPLY: (by Lief) May 5 2020 11:57pm
Not major but I just happened to notice today that on the awards page on our profiles, next to each QP award it still has the old cash reward listed (20k for 25%, 50k for 50%, 80k for 75%) instead of the updated rewards.
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VIEWING BUGS FORUM THREAD: Competition Times
REPLY: (by SensationalCat) Jun 30 2020 3:53am
Not sure if this is a bug or not but will add it here.

Since the major hack a week ago when Joe/Miranda had to reset the server, I've realised that competitions such as esj no longer start at :00 or :05. For example, I would tab out to check other websites and know to tab back in at :44 because it would begin at :45.

Now, it seems that top of the hour in game is more like :43 rather than :40, or :48 rather than :45, and so forth.

A buddy also pointed out that the Cremello competition times/top of the hour used to occur before Pinto (thus making it easy for players to finish a comp on Crem and start the Pinto one). However now they're both on the same time, making me think that only Pinto was rolled back?

Is this a bug though, and if so is it fixable? It's not a huge bother, just something I noticed whilst tabbed out today.

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REPLY: (by Smaug) Jun 30 2020 7:51pm
Another thing to add, simple jump won't load until :03-:05 sometimes and instantly reverts back to :00 once started... very weird
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VIEWING BUGS FORUM THREAD: Rafiki's Horrible, Terrible, Muddy Secret
REPLY: (by LittleGoldHorse) Jul 2 2020 9:08pm
When you get to Cabin isle, a message pops up in your right chat saying something along the lines of "you found purple scrap buried under the log/you better dig it out!"
But when you dig the log to the left of where you're standing, nothing happens. I tried digging all around it too, and still nothing. A couple players helped me and neither of them could figure it out either. I believe there is some bug?
REPLY: (by SensationalCat) Jul 2 2020 10:19pm
I was actually on while you were struggling with this and I half-remembered what to do but I was so clocked out I couldn't remember at the time then, sorry hahaha.

But have you tried digging on top of the tree stump/log? And digging where you first found the message?

This quest does work, but this step always bugs players and I do remember it works but can't remember exactly how at the moment!
REPLY: (by LittleGoldHorse) Jul 3 2020 2:20pm
I tried digging around the stump & log, all around the mud hole and dead tree, even tried raking and checked out other stumps on the isle. Couldn't figure it out!
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 3 2020 3:31pm
Make sure you are at the correct location. For the dead trees, they aren't involved with a mud hole. You are just dealing with a side of the dead tree. :)

REPLY: (by Cavallino) Sep 19 2020 8:05pm
I spent such a long time with the same problem! After I get to cabin and take a step left to the fallen tree and dig, nothing happens. I dug/searched/raked all over cabin and to no avail.
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VIEWING BUGS FORUM THREAD: Appleton Riddles
REPLY: (by Flame) Jul 5 2020 9:32pm
Half of them are not displaying
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 6 2020 12:06pm
Log off clear cache: Ctrl + Shift + Del for Windows.

Then log back on, see if that helps.

You may need to log off frequently to clear out the buffer if you have lag.
REPLY: (by Flame) Aug 3 2020 8:08pm
Neither worked.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 4 2020 12:27pm
If you aren't using Google Chrome, try that and see if it helps.

This is something regarding your computer vs the game. Your comp. is not loading everything it needs to load.

You can also try zooming out, that sometimes helps.

Make sure you don't have anything else running on your computer at the same time such as video's, music, social media. See if that makes a difference.
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VIEWING BUGS FORUM THREAD: Kier and the Lovesick Frog
REPLY: (by Spudnick) Sep 4 2020 10:52pm
I've found 9 out of 10 gemstones and am missing the one "above the dock" which I believe should be on Rider Isle, but when I dig in the pond it says there is nothing?

I've check with other players that remember it being there. Wondering if there is a glitch or bug or something that is keeping me from completing the quest or if I am just looking in the wrong spot?
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 5 2020 11:47am
Keep looking there is more than 1 pond on Rider. :)
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VIEWING BUGS FORUM THREAD: Hi 1 if old flash is the bug
REPLY: (by GingerCurtau) Nov 19 2020 7:32pm
can you sell the game as is in virtual computer programmed to run old flash to the members that want to donate to keep the next 2 installments running
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 19 2020 9:19pm
This is not a bug, I will reply to you via the mail you sent to support.
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VIEWING BUGS FORUM THREAD: Login issues
REPLY: (by Syrup) Apr 23 2021 5:19am
I have got the client working using the workaround with the flash projector, but despite many attempts I can't seem to log in. I get an "Incorrect user/password" error on all servers.
I have also had issues posting to the forums, as it claims I'm not logged in.
I found some old mentions of the issue, but no fix/workaround that solved the issues for me
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 3 2021 9:06am
The forums use the regular login.

For the servers though it's a different type - the workaround.

It's very easy to skip a step. Make sure you copy/paste the proper link for the server you are trying to access.

Make sure you use caps when there are caps, this workaround system is case sensitive.

Hopefully this will help. Sorry it took so long to reply to you, been a very busy several days!
REPLY: (by Syrup) May 10 2021 8:00am
Thank you for the response. Don't worry about the time it takes.

I have followed the workaround and got it working just fine. I have the game loading in the flash projector.

I have checked and made sure that both name and password are typed correctly, and in the right case. But I'm still getting the same error.

Everything else works on the login screen as far as I can tell (Cycling through tips, opening the menu, changing the background music, the animations in the background)So I assume it's loading just fine in the flash projector.



REPLY: (by Syrup) May 10 2021 8:07am
I got it working by some more trial and error. I didn't see mention of this step, so it might be worth mentioning on some of the workaround information?

I actually had to attempt to access it through the server list on the website first. It seems like some step of this process is what creates a profile on a server. It's a bit hard to explain, but once there's a profile, I can log in. If the server has "no existing profile", then I can't.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 10 2021 9:29am
It shouldn't matter as long as you use the correct server address.

Each server has their own unique address.

If you are on a Mac though sometimes they are fussy regarding the projector. Some players don't have any issues, others do. We can't track it down, it's apparently something with the Mac, some setting or the OS...?
REPLY: (by Syrup) May 11 2021 12:29am
I am on windows, so it should not be an OS issue.

Is there somewhere I can send a video/series of images explaining the issue? I think that might help me demonstrate exactly what is going on.
REPLY: (by AddledHaflinger) May 11 2021 3:23pm
I can play on my Macbook just fine as well
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 12 2021 10:15am
If you follow the instructions specifically, you will be able to log on unless there is a setting on your computer blocking it.

It's super easy to miss a step though, so sometimes it takes a bit in the beginning to get it. :)

Go to this page: ht tp :// www . horseisle . com /flashworkaround . php
(remove the spaces)

It tells how to do this. :) Make sure you do download the proper file from Flash, You do NOT want the debugger, you do want the Flash Player Projector. # 2

First you download the Flash Player Projector matching your computer = Windows / Mac... Make sure you download the Projector. Not the debugger.

Then you can place that file wherever you want, I have a shortcut on my desktop.

Then, click on that and open up a blank white page. Click on File on that page, then on Open.

For Mac's it doesn't always come up with a white page. Try hitting
File and then Open Location then paste the link. :)

That brings up the little window where you copy/paste the link that you want from the list for #6, the servers.

For example, for pinto what you would copy/paste is the HI1 Pinto link. For HI2 Eternal you would copy/paste that link etc...

For pinto server copy/paste the link on that page for Pinto.

That will bring up that server and you type in your username (make sure you spell it just as it actually is, this system is case sensitive. And, give your password, again it's case sensitive so be sure to use caps when appropriate.)

Then hit your enter key or click on the Enter button and there you go. :)


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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: ~Horse Isle 1's Basic Profile HTML~
REPLY: (by Dapples) Jun 18 2011 1:23pm
Hello and welcome to Horse Isle 1's Basic Profile HTML forum. I made this forum post because I noticed that a lot of people claimed that making a profile is too hard because they don't understand the HTML and they want to stop their entire profile from being bold, underlined, or italicized, but when they try, it doesn't work. It's not that hard to make a profile, I promise. :-) I am making this so you can learn about matching colors your profile and not overusing italics or bolds.
Before we begin, I want to make sure that this entire forum will make you an appropriate profile.

Detailed Rules:
- Please do not include another language in any Profiles, including Horse and Player profiles, if another language is included in your profile, you will be notified and told to remove it, or it will be forcibly removed.
- Gangs/herds/clans or anything similar are not allowed. This includes in profile descriptions.
- A hate list can be as simple as having in a profile: "I hate player1 since she didn't buy my horse."
- If a hate group or list is found in a profile description, you will be asked to remove it or it will be forcibly removed.
- All game rules apply to profiles.
- Please do not add ANY of the above rule breaking Personal Information - you will be asked to remove it or it will be forcibly removed.
- Please avoid controversial and religious topics or clubs within your profile.
- Please ensure that ALL content in your profile is in the English language.
- Please be aware of this when creating a profile. There is no need to have any religious references in a profile. This even includes mentioning what religion you are. There is no reason others need to know what religion you are.

Make sure that none of the profile you are making contains rule-breaking language.
Let's start at the top of your profile. Where do you want your heading to be? Your heading can be your favorite quote, song lyric, or your username. Don't be boring. Use your favorite color instead of black. Don't forget to place [/i][/b] at the beginning of your profile to prevent unintended bold fonts and italicized fonts.

Example:
[/i][/b][blue] Dapples
This is an appropiate heading. Make sure if you decide to do multiple special effects that you close them properly.

Incorrect Example:
[/i][/b][blue] [i][u]D[/i][/u]apples

Correct Example:
[/i][/b][blue] [i][u]D[/u][/i]apples
The underline was the most recent entered coding, so it is the first to be closed by the backslash. (/)

If you click SAVE PROFILE and afterward click STATS to preview this, it should be exactly the way you want it!

Let's move on to the body of your profile.
Example:
[blue][b]About me.[/b]
[grey]Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here!
That's boring! The "About me." is written in the common bold. Let's try to make it italicized and underlined AND bold! "It won't work!" Yes, it will. I'll show you how to close it correctly.

Example:
[blue][b][u]A[/u][/b]b[i][u]o[/u][/i]ut m[i]e[/i][b].[/b]
[grey]Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here!
Note that the HTML that is entered last is closed first.
Examples:
[u]Word[/u]
That is closed correctly. Let's add [i] around the word.
[i][u]Word[/u][/i]
See how I added it around what was already added? This is how to "lasso" your underlines where you want them and keep them from leaking onto other parts of your profile.
Don't forget to click SAVE PROFILE often and view it under STATS! It takes a lot of saving and previewing to make a good profile!
For the heading, put something like [c] Dapples 2011 and you're good to go!

This is the complete code of what we just worked with.

[/i][/b][blue] [i][u]D[/u][/i]apples
[blue][b][u]A[/u][/b]b[i][u]o[/u][/i]ut m[i]e[/i][b].[/b]
[grey]Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here! Write about yourself here!
[c] Dapples 2011
REPLY: (by Flight) Jun 18 2011 3:57pm
Love this, great forum post!
Just wanted to say, you do not need to [/i] at the start of your player profile, you only need to [/b]. For horse profiles you only need to [/i] but not [/b]. The rest of it is perfect though :)

~DUN♥SERVER~
REPLY: (by HiHiHi) Jun 22 2011 6:38am
Just a note because color can be annoying when coding with a lot of them, [/color] removes color
As an example, [blue]Hi[grey]Hi[green]Hi[/color] would make the text grey. If you added another, it would make it green, and another and it would be black.
Why not just type [black] instead? Well from experience not ending your colour codes can end in the coding not coming out quite right.
REPLY: (by Dal) Jun 22 2011 8:54pm
Just a quick note:
HTML (HyperText Markup Language) is not allowed on HorseIsle. These codes are placed inside of < > rather than [ ]. The code that is used on HorseIsle is called BBCode (Bulletin Board Code). BBCode is the [b][i][u] etc.

For those interested, these are the codes we're allowed to use in profiles.

Bold: [b]
Un-Bold: [/b]
Italic: [i]
Un-Italic: [/i]
Underline: [u]
Un-Underline: [/u]
To change the colour: [colour]

Note: When using two or more of the bold, italic, or underline at once, you must close the tags in opposite order. [b][i] must be closed [/i][/b]

Note 2: Sometimes you will need to combine codes, for example [b][i][u][/u][/i][u][/u][/b]. Before you can close the italics, you must close the underline. If you want to continue underlining, you can reopen the underline after closing the italic. If there is not a space between the ][ then there will be a seamless underline.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 23 2011 11:05am
Excellent Dapples. :)

Locking this. Note, we don't have the option for a sticky unfortunately, but at least the post should remain. :)
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Do NOT go to Hacker Sites!
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 10 2011 1:10pm
When players come on and tell you to go to ...site to get free money, do NOT do so.

This is a password hacking site, any and all passwords on your computer will be stolen. If you have a super good firewall you might be safe, but no guarantees.

If you do go there immediately change passwords, and run a virus scan as it also contains a virus I think.

Never save passwords on your computer as you then become susceptible to such sites.

Never Ever for any reason give such sites your name, password or mail. This is extremely dangerous for you!

Please play safely and carefully.

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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Re: Offering Prizes to players for buying horse
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 31 2011 10:57am
For those who are offering a "prize" to players who buy a specific horse without giving out that horses name and breed, please be aware this is considered a scam.

Please Only do fair trades. If you want players to buy your horses great, do Not use "gimics" or scamming techniques to get them to buy the horse however.

Saying something like: "10 horses for sale, special prize to the one who buys one of them" is a scam.

Either give something extra for all horses, or state the name and breed of the horse that will have the prize.

Also saying "I will give you a foal if you buy my horse at auction." Is a scam. It's trading on a promise. If you want to give the foal, then put it with the horse when you put the horse in for auction.

Do not trade on a promise.

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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Complete List Of Warping Shortcuts
REPLY: (by Chosen) Aug 13 2011 1:39pm
Hey everyone, here is the complete list of warping shortcuts for HI. There were a few Isles that were unwarpable(For example Solomon isle). Some Isles couldn't be warped without using its full given name such as Rain Isle so I left them out (:
Hope this helps It includes Meadows, Towns, and Isles.

Appleton: Ap or Apple
Earton: E
Cantle Meadows: Can
The Cloud Isles: The C
Santon: San
Tropicton: Tro
Treeton: Tr
Horse Isle: H
Saddle Isle: S
Cat Isle: C
Witherton: W
Mare Isle: M
Ice Isle: I
Art Isle: A
Hotton: Hot
The Sand Isles: Th
Welcome Isle: We
Rider Isle: R
Ring Isle: Rin
Flower Isle: F
Dolphin Isle: D
Fipperton: Flip
Jungle Isle: J
Rainy Meadows: Ra
Vine Isle: V
Pirate Isle: P
Prison Isle: Pr
Crossbones Camp: Cro
Soaring Meadows: So
Wington: Win
Hotzeplotz Isle: Hotz
Whiskerton: Wh
Whorl Isle: Who
Rock Isle: Ro
Hare Isle: Ha
Haven Isle: Hav
Carrotton: Car
Quiet Isle: Q
Lilac Isle: L
Lava Isle: La
Ashton: As
Molten Meadows: Mo
Puuhonua Isle: Pu
Pumice Isle: Pum
Igneous Isle: Ig
Scoria Isle: Sc
Basalt isle: Ba
Starfish isle: St
Tail Isle: T
Theobroma Isle - Theo
Loch isle - Lo
Half haven isle – Hal
Desert isle: Des
Icicle isle: Ici
Paradise Isle: Pa
Patsy Isle: Pat
Chillton: Chil
Christmas Isle: Ch
Sunshine Meadows: Su
Tail End: Tail E
Frigid Meadows: Fr
Dust Isle: Du
Aesop Isle: Ae
Berg Isle: Be
Snowball Isle: Snowb
Crystalton: Cry
Skullton: Sk
Hotton: Hot
Hat Isle: Hat
Magma Isle: Mag
Web Isle: Web
Shimmer Isle: Shi
Shellton: Sh
Talon Isle: Tal
Turtle Isle: Tu
Spirit Isle: Sp
Nonesuch Isle: No
Bone Isle: Bo
Eldorado Isle: El
Drill Isle: Dr
Tranquility Isle: Tr
Serenity Isle: Se
Torrid Isle: To
Crescent Isle: Cre
Hoof Isle: Hoo
Spice Isle: Spic
Palm Isle: Pal
Ardent isle: Ard
Atropos Isle: At
Inkton: In

Sorry If there was any typos, have fun warping(:

- Chosen +Pinto+
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Regarding Special fonts Please Read
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 18 2011 8:46am
This is from Miranda:

"Please stop using the Wii fonts on horse names and descriptions. This often messes with the coding for the game and makes it so sometimes the save button disappears. This prevents you from being able to change that horse's information and forces me to go in and erase the name and description.
Sorry it doesn't work with it. "

So, if you already have something, and nothing is glitching fine, you may keep it. However please do Not add more, or use the other fonts in profiles and horse names. :)

Lets not use the special fonts at all for profiles and horse names please.

Again, if you already have it and it's working you may keep it.

Thanks :)
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Re: Paying Players To Compete/Place
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 28 2011 1:24pm
You may:

Play players to enter a competition. You may state that you will pay players only if the competition is full.

You Must pay all who enter and qualify for the above however or you end up not completing an agreed trade = scamming/stealing. That includes if one of those who entered and qualified is on your personally muted players list... Unmute and pay, then you may mute again.

You may NOT:

Pay others to win, lose or come in at a specific place, such as second or third. No paying someone to lose or to win, no taking turns winning/losing. Competitions must be fair to all at all times.

That is considered rigging a competition and not allowed in real life or on this game.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 28 2011 2:06pm
Add on:

This also includes no paying others to beat your high score, or something along those lines. Again, if you wish to personally compete with someone else great! But no paying them to do so. That ends up paying the winner of a competition. So again, it's rigging the comp.

Thanks :)
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 28 2011 9:19pm
You may pay everyone who enters the comp the same if you wish.

You may Not pay only the winner or loser. Nor may you pay different amounts depending on who scored what. It must be fair to all. :)
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: ~Companion Locations~
REPLY: (by JustThatAwesome) Sep 1 2011 6:01am
List of where all the companions are found:

If you're struggling to find the companion you're looking for, just go Ctrl + F (Command + F for Macs) and type in its name :)

*Cheap*
Bunch Of Flies: Found around mud holes.
Spider: Hotton
Ladybug: Appleton
Inchworm: Treeton
Firefly: Earton
Morpho Butterfly: Wington / Found on Flower Isle
Fish: Earton
Pet Rock: Appleton
Monarch Butterfly: Shellton / Found on Flower Isle
Starfish: Appleton
Rubber Ducky: Appleton

*Mid Range Price*
Chameleon: Hotton
Mouse: Whiskerton
Rat: Found on Prison Isle
Gerbil: Treeton
Guinea Pig: Appleton
Gecko: Hotton
Turtle: Shellton
Squirrel: Treeton
Hedgehog: Hotton
Meerkat: Hotton
Ferret: Whiskerton
Bunny: Shellton
Raccoon: Treeton
Fennec Fox: Earton
Piglet: Treeton
Monkey: Hotton
Lamb: Shellton
Goat: Whiskerton
Wallaby: Hotton
Donkey: Appleton
Hereford Calf: Earton

*Birds*
Pigeon: Wington
Chicken: Wington
Kiwi: Wington
Goose: Wington
Peacock: Wington
Turkey: Wington
Stellar's Jay: Wington
Parrot: Wington / Found in the Jungle forests
Hummingbird: Shellton
Owl: Wington
Penguin: Wington

*Seasonal*
Snowman: From Santa
Chocolate Bunny: From Easter Bunny
Pumpkin: From John O'Lantern

*Cats*
Tuxedo Kitten: Earton
Orange Tabby Kitten: Treeton
Calico Cat: Whiskerton
Black Cat: Earton
Ragdoll Kitten: Shellton
Persian Kitten: Whiskerton
Basket of Kittens: Whiskerton

*Dogs*
Pomeranian: Shellton
Rough Collie: Earton
Australian Shephard: Appleton
Chow Chow: Treeton
Golden Retriever: Appleton
Dalmation: Shellton
Dachshund: Whiskerton
Great Pyrenees: Treeton
Cocker Spaniel: Earton
Airedale: Hotton
German Shephard: Whiskerton
Doberman Pinscher: Earton
Foxhound: Hotton
Siberian Husky: Appleton

*Foals*
Black Foal: Horse Isle Foal Adoption Center
Palomino Foal: Jungle Foal Adoption Center
Bay Foal: Jungle Foal Adoption Center
Grey Foal: Horse Isle Foal Adoption Center
Chestnut Foal: Horse Isle Foal Adoption Center
Overo Foal: Horse Isle Foal Adoption Center
White Foal: Horse Isle Foal Adoption Center
Tovero Foal: Desert Foal Adoption Center
Tobiano Foal: Desert Foal Adoption Center
Piebald Foal: Jungle Foal Adoption Center
Dun Foal: Desert Foal Adoption Center
Cremello Foal: Jungle Foal Adoption Center
Bay Blanket Foal: Horse Isle Foal Adoption Center
Leapord Spotted Foal: Jungle Foal Adoption Center
Red Roan Foal: Jungle Foal Adoption Center
Strawberry Roan Foal: Horse Isle Foal Adoption Center
Blue Roan Foal: Desert Foal Adoption Center

Zebra Foal: Desert Foal Adoption Center
Camel Calf: Desert Foal Adoption Center
Cria: Desert Foal Adoption Center
Donkey Foal: Desert Foal Adoption Center
Giraffe: Jungle Foal Adoption Centre

Brown Miniature Foal:Desert Foal Adoption Center
Chestnut Miniature Foal: Jungle Foal Adoption Center

Brown Draft Foal: Horse Isle Foal Adoption Center
Bay Sabino Draft Foal: Horse Isle Foal Adoption Center
Black Draft Foal: Jungle Foal Adoption Center
Black Forest Draft Foal: Desert Foal Adoption Center
Palomino Draft Foal: Desert Foal Adoption Center

*50m Companions*
Green Baby Dragon: Lava Isle Adoption Centre
Phoenix: Lava Isle Adoption Centre
Blue Baby Dragon: Lava Isle Adoption Centre
Young Gryphon: Lava Isle Adoption Centre



Hope this helps :)

-Justa-
REPLY: (by AppleBay) Jul 16 2012 2:50pm
Scottish Terrier – Treeton
Plastic Pink Flamingo – Scattered around the grass on Bird Isle (town)
Garden Gnome – Scattered around the grass on Dolphin Isle (town)
Aardvark – Shellton
Okapi – Tropicton
Ribbon Seal – Whiskerton
Polar Bear Cub – Whiskerton
Pallas Cat - Whiskerton
Sleepy, Piebald Foal – Horse Isle Adoption Centre
Sleepy, Chestnut Foal – Horse Isle Adoption Centre
Sleepy, Chestnut Foal – Jungle Isle Adoption Centre
Sleepy, Palomino Foal – Jungle Isle Adoption Centre
Sleepy, Mushroom Foal – Desert Isle Adoption Centre
Lemur - Treeton
Skunk - Treeton
REPLY: (by BayLeaf) Jul 17 2012 3:39am
A small correction-
Sleepy, Bay Foal - Jungle Isle Adoption Centre
(the Sleepy, Chestnut Foal only has an unlimited supply in the Horse Isle Adoption Centre)
tuttut Apple ;)
REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Aug 24 2012 6:25pm
Semaphore Cat - NoneSuch Isle
Common Gibroot - NoneSuch Isle
Glass-winged Zugunit - NoneSuch Isle
White-lined Fneen - NoneSuch Isle
Pileated Nerphlquat - NoneSuch Isle

NONESUCH ISLE- Talk to Ruthie on Haven Isle.
HAVEN ISLE & HALF HAVEN ISLE-Talk to the dock owner in Shellton
REPLY: (by CometChaser) Sep 13 2014 4:59am
Cyan Water Dragon - Basalt isle boat dock
Badger - Shellton
Panda - Shellton
Elephant Calf - Jungle Isle Adoption Center
Young Hydra - Lava Isle Adoption Center
Frilled Lizard - Hotton pet shop
Jack in the Box - Talk to Christel in the cabin on the west side of Polar isle.
Highland Calf - Appleton pet shop
Hippo Calf - Hotton pet shop
Egyptian Mau - Whiskerton Pet shop
Potoo - Wington pet shop
St. Bernard - Earton pet shop
Sunset Moth - Shellton pet shop
Border Collie - Appleton pet shop

Puli - Earton pet shop
Cheshire Cat - Found on cloud isle
Wombat - Shellton Pet shop
REPLY: (by CometChaser) Dec 24 2014 12:02pm
Plush Unicorn - Hanska on polar isle
REPLY: (by AppleBay) Oct 2 2015 9:56am
Plush Pegasus – Hanska at Polar Isle

Kookaburra - Wington
Toucan – Wington

Young Bay Hippogryph - Lava Isle Adoption Center
Young Black Hippogryph - Lava Isle Adoption Center
Young Chestnut Hippogryph - Lava Isle Adoption Center
Young Palomino Hippogryph - Lava Isle Adoption Center
REPLY: (by AppleBay) Oct 2 2015 10:13am
Yellow Chinese Dragon - Lava Isle Adoption Center
Purple Chinese Dragon - Lava Isle Adoption Center

Red Baby Dragon - Lava Isle Adoption Center
Purple Baby Dragon - Lava Isle Adoption Center
REPLY: (by AppleBay) Dec 8 2015 4:59pm
Jackalope - Hotton pet shop
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 5 2016 2:18pm
Mule foals:
Pinto - Horse Isle Foal Adoption Center
Palomino - Horse Isle Foal Adoption Center
Bay - Tropicton Foal Adoption Center
Chestnut - Tropicton Foal Adoption Center
Black - Desert Foal Adoption Center
Dun - Desert Foal Adoption Center
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 22 2016 12:31pm
Red Pandas - Treeton Pet Shop.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 19 2017 1:26pm
Colobus Monkey - Treeton Pet Shop. $72,000
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 8 2017 1:03pm
Coati - Appleton Pet Shop

$48,100
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 16 2018 2:12pm
Aye-Aye - Treeton Pet Shop

$45,600
REPLY: (by DesertWind) Apr 27 2019 10:22pm
Snowy Owl = Appleton Pet Shop = $10,400

Chipmunk = Earton Pet Shop = $3,250
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: tack locations and prices.
REPLY: (by Mustangs) Sep 16 2011 1:38pm
[ 10k tack ]
english tack - earton, appleton, witherton (rider isle)
western tack - earton, treeton, witherton (rider isle)
australian tack - earton, treeton, carrotton (hare isle)

[ 100k-200k tack ]
fancy tack - treeton.
racing tack - appleton.
jumping tack - earton.
llama tack - tropicton (jungle isle)
camel tack - santon (desert isle)
draft tack - wington (bird isle)

[ 1m tack ]
beautiful tack - shellton (turtle isle)
fireball tack - hotton (desert isle)
jackrabbit tack - wington (bird isle)
heavyweight tack - carrotton (hare isle)

[ 10m tack ]
glorious tack - shellton (turtle isle)
icarus tack - hotton (desert isle)
pegasus tack - wington (bird isle)
hercules tack - witherton (rider isle)

if i missed any locations, let me know.
and yes, i do realize that some of the tack doesn't exactly add up to the exact amount that i put in brackets. just to round it. :P

i hope this helps. :]

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REPLY: (by BayLeaf) Jul 17 2012 3:29am
The locations for our newest tack:

[ 20.4k tack ]
red parade tack - shellton (turtle isle)
blue parade tack - appleton (horse isle)
green parade tack - carrotton (hare isle)
black parade tack - hotton (desert isle)

[ 22.001k tack ]
red hunting tack - earton (horse isle)
blue hunting tack - wington (bird isle)
green hunting tack - treeton (horse isle)
black hunting tack - witherton (rider isle)

If you spot any errors please correct me *laughing out loud!*
REPLY: (by CometChaser) Jun 12 2014 1:57pm
[1.2 billion
Water Tack set - hotton (desert isle)

[1.1 mil]
Fancy Llama Tack - Tropicaton tack shop (Jungle isle)

[1 Billion]
Earth tack set - Carrotton (Hare Isle)
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 11 2014 6:49pm
[1,020,000,000]
Air tack set = Shellton (Turtle Isle)
REPLY: (by CometChaser) Dec 23 2014 7:07pm
Starfire tack - Wington (bird isle)
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 19 2017 1:29pm
Turkmenian tack - Hotton (Desert Isle)

Saddle = $10,200
Saddle Pad = $4,080
Bridle = $6,120
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Isle directions.
REPLY: (by Ferret) Nov 24 2011 9:07am
Prison Isle - Talk to Griffin in Earton or get sent there by starving one of your horses (you don't want to do that).

Web Isle- Get there by taking the corresponding boat from the Vine Isle docks.

Snow Isle- Take the corresponding boat from Earton docks.

Ice isle- Take the corresponding boat from Earton or Snow docks.

Berg Isle - walk over the southern-most bridge on the east part of snow isle.

Christmas isle- walk over the notrthern-most bridge on the east side of Snow isle or take the wagon near the Snow Isle docks.

Snowball Isle- walk over the bridge on the eastern side of Ice Isle.

Polar Isle- take the corresponding boat from Ice Isle docks.

Icicle Isle- unlocked during Icy's Lost Button quest (the snowman found in the north-eastern part of Snow Isle.You can return back to Polar Isle by finding Icy's button located near some rocks.

Pirate Isle- Talk to one of the pirates standing near the boats on Saddle Isle and Bird Isle.You will need two pearls for each trip and you have to had achieved the 50% quest point award.To pass on Skull isle from Crossbone Isle,you need a password,which you will have to discover yourself. ;3

Hat Isle- Go to the top of Skull Isle.You will find a pirate ship that will take you on Hat Isle.Each trip will cost 1 pearl.

Vine Isle- Take the corresponding boat from the Jungle Isle docks.

Rain Isle- Talk to the rock shop owner on Vine Isle.To get off,you will need to find Leontine.She is moving around the isle.

Jungle Isle- Take the corresponding boat from Earton Docks.

Art Isle- Take the corresponding boat from Bird Isle docks.

Ring Isle- Take the corresponding boat from Bird Isle docks.

Bird Isle- Take the corresponding boat from Earton Docks.

Cat Isle- Take the corresponding boat from Earton docks.

Hare Isle- Take the corresponding boat from Earton Docks.

Dolphin Isle- Take the corresponding boat from Appleton docks.

Flower Isle- Take the corresponding boat from Appleton docks.

Tail Isle-Take the corresponding boat from Appleton docks.

Starfish Isle- Go over the bridge at the end of Tail Isle.
You can take the wagon near the Tail Isle docks to get to the Tail Isle end.

Desert Isle-Take the corresponding boat from Appleton docks.

The Sand Isles- Take the corresponding boat from the docks on the western side of Desert Isle.

Torrid Isle- Take the corresponding boat from the Hotton docks.

Dust Isle- Talk to the dockmaster on Torrid Isle.tell him that there are no shops on the island and so you can't earn money for the boat trip.He will tell you that you can swim to the next island.Accept.You will then find yourself on Dust Isle.To get off,find Fitzgerald who moving arund the cacti.

Aesop Isle-Talk to Fitzgerald on Dust Isle.You need to have completed Silver Mary's quest.

Hoof Isle- Take the wagon at Appleton wagon station.

Turtle Isle- Take the corresponding boat from Treeton docks.

Ardent-Take the boat from Palm Isle.

Atropos-Take the boat from Palm Isle.

Bone Isle- Talk to Hudson in Shellton.

Cloud Isle- Have the 75% quest award and take 3 giant coconuts to Winchell on Jungle Isle.

Cresent- Talk to Demetrius in Witherton.


Eldorado- Talk to Hudson in Shellton. He'll send you to Sara on Bone Isle. She'll send you to Eldorado.

Haven Isle- Talk to the dock owner in Shellton.

Hotzeplotz Isle- Unlocked during Grey Slate's quest. (Carroton)

Lava Isle- Talk to Deidra on Hoof Isle.She'll send you to Sir Sleepwell on Patsy Isle.He'll send you to the Lava Isle.You'll need the 25% quest award and 5 bunches of wildflowers for every trip.

Lilac- Talk to Mr.Tuttle in Shellton.To get off,you'll need to fin Bailey,which is moving around the island.


Loch Isle- Talk to the fish store owner in Treeton.

Mare Isle- Talk to Temperence in Treeton.

Neverending Isles- Take the Luck Dragon near the house on the beach north west of Shellton.


Nonesuch Isle- Talk to Ruthie on Haven Isle.

Palm Isle- Dig in the north-west corner of Mare Isle.

Paradise Isle- Talk to Robin in Witherton.

Puuhonua Isle- Talk to Barret,the Tail Isle General store owner.

Quiet Isle- Talk to Galvin in Muzzle forest.


Rock Isle- Talk to Mr. Tuttle in Shellton. He'll send you to Bailey on Lilac (you have to search for her). She'll send you to Rock Isle.


Rule Isle- Have to be sent there by a mod and you get muted for 20min from global.

Shimmer- Take the boat from Palm Isle.

Spice- Talk to Minnie in Treeton.

Spirit Isle- You can only get there by renting a pegasus.

Theobroma Isle - Talk to King Phil on Hotzeplotz Isle.

Rider Isle- Take the boat from Earton docks.

Saddle Isle- Walk over the bridge in the nort-eastern part of rider isle.You will need a password. ;3

Whorl Isle- Take the boat from Polar isle.

Igneous Isle- Talk to Patsy on Lava Isle.

Magma Isle- Talk to Cupid on Igneous Isle.

Scoria Isle- Talk to Argus Beesty,the 'pet' shop owner on Lava Isle.

Pumice Isle-Talk to cupid On Igneous Isle.

Basalt Isle-Take the boat from Scoria Isle.

Drill Isle- Take the boat from Serenity Isle.

Mod Isle- Only if you are a mod.

Serenity Isle- You must have 100% quests completed.Talk to the pegasus/unicorn uniter on Cloud Isle.

Tranquility Isle - Go over the bridge from Serenity Isle.

Hope that helped.I know I have problems with the Isle directions too. x3
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 19 2014 10:49am
Dog Isle: To get to Dog Isle take the row boat from the bottom of Vine Isle.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 7 2015 8:40pm
Cabin Isle: Take the boat from Whorl.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 7 2015 4:38pm
Mane Isle: This is a bit entailed.

Talk to Rafiki on Quiet Isle. He will give you a quest...
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 6 2015 10:15am
Yellow Brick Isle:

You can use the Sand Isle Dock (between Desert and Sand Isles) to get to Yellow Brick.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 5 2015 1:06pm
Add on to Mane Isle: To return, Dig at the dead tree where you arrived.

After you have done Rafiki's quest, then to get to Mane rake in the mudhole above Hotton Bank.

You do need to do Rafiki's quest first though.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 9 2016 1:29pm
Isle of Hardy: You have to do Dalton's second quest to activate the isle.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 1 2016 1:07pm
Horn Isle: From Dock at Witherton/Saddle Isle.
REPLY: (by DesertWind) Aug 14 2019 6:49pm
Bumping, this got totally burried. *laughing out loud!* :)
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Crafting Guide
REPLY: (by Kness) Dec 7 2011 6:45pm
Here's a simple guide to glance at from time to time when you don't remember where to craft an object or what it takes to craft it! I was thinking that it could help out the newer players, and even some of the old timey folk like myself! *Laughing out loud!*

Crafts on Cat isle:
Chains - Made out of ten gold or silver ore. Total cost: $100
Necklaces - Necklaces: For gold necklaces, you need 11 gold ore (10 will be turned into a gold chain) and an emerald, sapphire, amethyst, topaz, ruby, or diamond. For silver necklaces, you need 11 silver ore (10 will be turned into a silver chain) and an amethyst or topaz. Total cost of one: Between $300 to $600

Crafts on Rider isle:
English bridles - 5 leather strappings, 2 small buckles (can be made on Bird Isle), and 1 English bit (can be made on Bird Isle). Total cost of one: $200.
English saddle pads - 50 pieces of cotton (40 will be turned into 4 cloths on Turtle Isle) and 15 raspberries (red), acorns (brown), dandelions (yellow), blackberries (purple), strawberries (pink), 4-leaf clovers (green), bunches of daisies (white), iron ores (black), blueberries (blue), or 10 oranges (orange). Total cost of one: $200.
English girths - 4 large buckles (can be made on Bird Isle) and 3 leather strappings. Total cost of one: $100.
English saddle bases: 1 wooden saddle form (can be made on Hare Isle), 4 leather pieces, and 15 pieces of cotton. Total cost of one: $200.
English saddle - 1 English saddle base, 1 English girth, and 2 stirrups (can be made on Bird Isle). Total cost of one: $200.

Crafts on Turtle isle:
Cloth - 10 pieces of cotton. Total cost of one: $100.
Show shirts - 5 cloths (or 50 pieces of cotton), 2 rubies, and 15 raspberries, acorns, dandelions, or blackberries. Total cost of one: $800.
Racing shirts - 5 cloths (or 50 pieces of cotton), 2 hot bran mash, and 15 raspberries, acorns, dandelions, or blackberries. Total cost of one: $800.
Jumping shirts - 5 cloths (or 50 pieces of cotton), 15 4-leaf clovers, and 15 raspberries, acorns, dandelions, or blackberries. Total cost of one: $800.

Crafts on Hoof isle:
Seashell necklace - 15 seashells. Total cost of one: materials' only.
Pearl necklace - 15 pearls. Total cost of one: materials' only.

Crafts on Bird isle:
Small buckles - 5 iron ore. Total cost of one: $100.
Large buckles - 10 iron ore. Total cost of one: $150.
Stirrups - 20 iron ore. Total cost of one: $200.
English bits - 20 iron ore. Total cost of one: $200.
Western bits: 25 iron ore. Total cost of one: $200.

Crafts on Jungle isle:
Western bridles: 5 leather strappings, 2 small buckles (can be made on Bird Isle), and 1 Western bit (can be made on Bird Isle). Total cost of one: $200.
Western saddle pads: 50 pieces of cotton (40 will be turned into 4 cloths on Turtle Isle) and 15 raspberries (red), acorns (brown), dandelions (yellow), blackberries (purple), strawberries (pink), 4-leaf clovers (green), bunches of daisies (white), iron ore (black), blueberries (blue), or 10 oranges (orange). Total cost of one: $200.
Western girths: 4 large buckles (can be made on Bird Isle) and 3 leather strappings. Total cost of one: $100.
Western saddle bases: 1 wooden saddle form (can be made on Hare Isle), 4 leather pieces, and 15 pieces of cotton. Total cost of one: $200.
Western saddle: 1 Western saddle base, 1 Western girth, and 2 stirrups (can be made on Bird Isle). Total cost of one: $200.

Crafts on Hare isle:
Lucky horse hay: 15 4-leaf clovers and 1 bale of hay. Total cost of one: $200.
Daisy hay: 10 bunches of daisies and 1 bale of hay. Total cost of one: $200.
Apple treat: 8 apples and 1 horse candy. Total cost of one: $200.
Carrot treat: 10 carrots and 1 pitted horse date. Total cost of one: $200.
Honey oats: 10 honeycombs and 1 bag of oats. Total cost of one: $200.

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Credit to Google for the large majority of this! I just felt the need to bring this to the forums in case the players didn't know what to research. :) Enjoy!
REPLY: (by Gadzooks) Dec 8 2011 10:22am
You forgot the Crafts on Ring Isle :)

Copper Chains: 10 chunks of Copper ore, $100

Silver Chains: 10 chunks of Silver ore, $100

Leather Cord: 4 leather strappings, $100

Silver Turquoise Necklace: 1 silver chain, 5 chunks of Silver ore, and 4 pieces of Turquoise. $200

Copper Turquoise Necklace: 1 Copper chain, 2 chunks of Copper ore, and 4 pieces of Turquoise.

Leather Turquoise Necklace: 1 leather cord, 1 silver ore, and 4 pieces of Turquoise.



I just noticed this Craft shop today! *laughing out loud!*
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: How Chat Flags Work
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 8 2012 12:42pm
Chat flags are the games word filter catching words that are not allowed. There are only a few "reasons" programed in, so on occasion you will get lets say flagged for "profanity" when none exists, but that's just the closest thing the computer can come to the actual reason.

If something is flagged look to see what you said. It might have been a typo, if so spell properly and it will go though. Otherwise, don't use that word. Do NOT go around the filter with that word either. ;)

Chat flags are not automatic violations. Each flag is read by an administrator. If rules are broken then violations will be assigned. If no rules are broken, the flag will be deleted.

If, something is a very obvious typo that will be deleted. If it's not very obvious that it is a typo you will receive violations for it.

All we see is the one sentence. So for those of you who only send in 1, 2, 3, or 4 words per send you will probably receive more violations for chat flags since we can't see the entire sentence, thus have no way of knowing if something is a typo or not. So a violation will be given.

For those of you who type the entire sentence per send, you will probably receive less violations as we can actually see the sentence and realize 'oh, that's a typo' so the flag is deleted.

Remember this is a family game, there are many words and subjects we do Not allow on this game. The filter is there to protect others and to remind you that _____ isn't allowed. Please never avoid or go around the filter. That adds an extra violation if you do.

We are required to follow COPPA Federal laws and regulations that includes language, content and behavior. As we do allow young children on this game, we are quite strict about this. :)

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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Re: "Mini-Modding"
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 20 2012 2:03pm
Please be aware it is against the rules to "Mini-Moderate."

We have moderators who have been chosen by the owners of the game to moderate the game. They have access to information players do not have access to. They know how the owners wish things to be handled, and how to handle those things.

Please do NOT mini-mod. What you end up doing is breaking the rules harassing other players, and sometimes bullying them.

It is allowed to state for example: "It's against the rules to spam chat."

It is Not allowed to say for example: "You are breaking the rules, you can't spam chat, that's not allowed."

Players may Not tell others what they may or may not do. Only moderators and administrators get to do that. ;)

Telling others they will be reported for breaking the rules is threatening another player. Don't do it. :)

If you wish to report someone fine, do so. You don't need to tell any other person that you are doing that.

Remember you can also personally mute someone that you find offensive or harassing. So if someone is spamming chat, mute them if it bugs you. You can file an abuse report, otherwise just ignore the player.

Just stating the rules is fine. Telling players they must follow those rules, or telling any other person they should or should not do something is not fine. It's harassing and bullying.

We do Not have "mini-mods" on this game. We do not have "moderator helpers" on this game. We do not have "undercover moderators" on this game.

Just mute and report if needed, please do not harass others or break the rules yourself. :)

Thankies
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Referral Program, we are the hope for HI1.
REPLY: (by Walker) Apr 22 2012 8:53pm
Referring others to Horse Isle



In order to keep adding features to this game, we need subscribers.

You are our best hope! There is a button on the server page under "change my password" called "Refer other players and earn Game Credit!: REFERRAL PROGRAM"
that you can email to friends who may be interested, or post on your favorite forums.
If a player signs up using your link, with your name in it, you will get the following benefits:
For each month membership they buy for $5 you get 1 HorseBuck. (non-refundable credit towards game 1horsebuck=$1usd)
For each yearly membership they buy for $40 you get 8 HorseBucks. (non-refundable credit towards game 8horsebucks=$8usd)
So, if you refer 5 players who subscribe and continue to subscribe, you will be able to play for free!


Text copied from the referral program page, tweaked a bit to speak to the general HI public.
I myself found out that by posting a referral link on another horse site, i have referred 5 players to HI within a 2 month period!
Its not a lot, just coming from myself, but say half of HI referred 5 players each. That'd make a big difference.
So instead of posting in forums about servers not having enough players, try this! see if you get at least 1 new person to play!
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Clarrification on where you can sell subs/po's
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 9 2012 1:25pm
Players may Only sell subs or PO's on a server they are currently subscribed to. They may sell them for any server as they are gifted, however to advertise selling them they must be subscribed to the server where they are advertising.

So, if a player is currently subscribed on lets say Black server, that person may sell subs and po's on Black server to be gifted to any server.

If they are not subscribed on Black server then that person may not sell subs or po's on Black server.

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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Wii Fonts and other special fonts
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 17 2012 9:58am
This is a reminder.

While some of the Wii fonts do seem to be ok with profiles and horse names, most of them are not. What happens is it breaks the profile or name. That means you can't change the profile at all, the save button doesn't work. You can't change the horse name as the save button doesn't work.

Now, if this happens, you have to email support. When...Miranda gets free time, she will go in and delete the entire profile (necessary as all it shows her is a bunch of garbage characters she has no idea what is what, so all of it has to be deleted.) Same for the horse name, it too has to be deleted.

Miranda is a very busy lady, this is not top priority as you don't have to use fonts that don't work with the game. So...it could take anywhere from quit soon to several days for her to get to it. Just depends on her schedule.

We ask, that you not use these fonts and break your profiles please. It's not a rule however, if you want to wait for a while with a totally broken profile, it's up to you.

Also please keep then to a minimum in chat. If you want to use them for a fancy ad, please try to keep it to just the first character or something. For most of us the special fonts are very difficult to read. Thus when you use them in your ad, you may find most players ignore your ad since they can't read it. You limit your buyers as for the most part, only those who are familiar with the fonts can easily read them.

We also rather consider sentences with mostly Wii fonts to be spam, and a moderator in this instance will ask you to stop and use regular letters. Mod's get enough headaches without trying to translate Wii fonts. *laughing out loud!* :)

Thankies
DP
REPLY: (by NightMare) Apr 2 2013 11:14pm
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 21 2013 4:35pm
It is not against the rules to use these.

However:

Since the game does not support those fonts, you may end up with a broken profile or horse name. Miranda will fix it however to do this she will have to delete ALL of the profile.

It's also not high up on her to do list so it might take several days before she gets to it.

If you want to take the risk (and it is a pretty high risk as some of the letters Will break the save button) and lose all of your profile and wait for possibly several days for it to be fixed ok.

Some of the letters seem to hang in there without breaking it, others definitely do break it. I don't know which is which. Since the game doesn't support Wii or other Font's well...yeah it's going to glitch.

For general chat: One or possibly 2 characters in a sentence or add is fine, but please do not use all Wii letters or other fonts as then it's very difficult to read and will be treated as we would treat texting. An occasional use is fine, don't overdo it.

If we have to translate the sentence it's out and violations might be assigned.

Again, a few letters here and there as long as the sentence is easily readable is ok. The entire sentence or most of the sentence isn't.

Hope this clears up a few things. :)
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Buying/Selling Subscriptions
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 6 2012 3:24pm
Please follow the rules for this so you are not scammed. We do Not return the money to you if you choose to ignore this:

Gift Subs.
1] You are allowed to sell subscriptions for in-game, Horse Isle money, however, Horse Isle does not endorse or recommend this since you must trade on a promise.
2] When selling a subscription, you must buy the subscription via PayPal before receiving the money from the player you are buying the subscription for. It is far more likely a player will pay you in-game money for a received subscription than it is for a player to pay real money to subscribe someone after they have received the in-game money.
3] If the player you bought a subscription for does not pay you immediately after it shows up on their account (you should be able to tell if they log out and back in with a star) then contact support and we will take the money from the person and give it to you. If we have to do this, more than what was promised will most likely be taken as a sort of payment for our time in the matter.
4] A player not paying after they received a subscription is one of the only instances where we will go into the other player's account and take what was promised.
5] If the subscription was paid for via PayPal eCheck, then the player receiving the subscription should wait until their account is credited, then pay the person that bought the subscription.
6] DO NOT attempt to claim you are selling a subscription or pawneer order if you are not subscribed yourself. This could land with you an immediate mute since, from our experience, someone that does not subscribe themselves will not subscribe someone else.

This policy can be found in the Detailed Rules under "Selling Gift Subscriptions".

Basically 99% of the time players want or insist on money
first is because they are scamming. Since there is no way they can be
scammed... There is no reason to insist on money first.

If Player 1 is buying a Sub from Player 2, (Player 2 is selling a
sub for real life money) and Player 1 doesn't pay for the sub that
has been receved.... Player 1 gets banned, and we will take the money
from Player 1's account and give it to Player 2. There is no way
Player 2 won't receive the agreed upon or standard amount. All Player 2 has to do is contact us.

So, when they say they have been scammed before...no they have not
been, unless they chose to not contact us and get their money.

I'm seeing quite a bit of scamming, so please follow the above rules so you don't lose your money.

Thanks,
DP
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Rule Clarification(s)
REPLY: (by Drosophilia) Mar 12 2013 3:39pm
As we all know, jumping and selling horses are two of the hottest topics discussed in most chats on Horse Isle.


Simple jumping is often advertised in global, and advertising is the correct word, according to HI rules, which state the following:

The definition of an advertisement is: "to announce or praise (a product, service, etc.) in some public medium of communication in order to induce people to buy or use it."

When advertising simple in global, it can get very repetitive, but when saying something about it, I'm told that it doesn't belong in ads chat - by the mods. It's very confusing - so that's point one I want clarification on - it's very black and white, cut and dry. Do simple advertisements belong in ads chat, or not?


Point 2 - Is posting the same ad in ads chat once a minute, "spamming"? For example, posting "Knabstrup for sale, $500k." once a minute, the same ad, every minute. I've been told both ways.

I'd love it if I could recieve one FINAL opinion on this point, not multiples of different answers.

Thanks,

Drosophilia - Roan
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 12 2013 7:42pm
Players may use Global to ask others to join a comp. Basically it's not advertising, nothing is being sold one is only asking others to join a comp. That said, spamming said request is not allowed. :)

Ads chat has a 1 minute wait time, that is to prevent spamming chat. If there are no others using ads chat, then it's nice if the person using it does not flood the chat. But if some players don't have logins muted, the "flood" issue is iffy.

For example if you have logins muted the same ad may flood your screen. If the advertiser doesn't have logins muted then their last ad may have scrolled off the screen.

Spamming is spamming, so if the ad is less than the 1 minute you may report for spamming.

If the advertiser is annoying you can mute that person or mute ads chat for a bit.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Horseisle app
REPLY: (by SereneSelena) Apr 9 2013 3:10pm
I've been thinking that there should be a horseisle app..
Anybody else? Thanks for your input
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REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 10 2013 9:53am
I agree it would be nice. :)

However I doubt it will happen. Things such as iPad, iPod, iTouch... do not support Adobe Flash which is what the game is programmed in.

So, Joe would have to 100% re-design the game and re-program it in probably HTML or something like that. It would take a very long time to do that, and it would not be as much fun to play probably.

Also, as it would be a totally separate thing, you would have an account here, but you would not be able to access it from an App. So for example you would not be able to log on and train unless you logged onto this game here. This would be because the app would have to be in a totally different programing language. And the game would out of necessity be somewhat different.

There is an app that you can use to access this game from iPad, iPod, iTouch, but it's not all that great, and you still need access to a keyboard of some kind. You can sort of play from what I've heard, but it's a bit awkward and a bit limited. (I don't have the app, so I'm going on hearsay.)
REPLY: (by Rodeo) Apr 10 2013 12:06pm
The app is called Puffin Browser, and it works well enough to go on, say hi, check the bank, maybe train if you dont have a long list of horses. Pretty difficult on the iphone screen to use, but it's possible. I go on through my iphone occasionally when i'm away from home. The app works pretty well on tablets/ipads etc. but it's still kind of weird and limited.
REPLY: (by LokisSkitter) Apr 10 2013 4:11pm
@Rodeo, it PB an actual HI app? I'm just curious.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 10 2013 7:14pm
No it's not a HI app. What it is, is an app that allows Adobe Flash to work on things that don't support Adobe Flash. Such as iPad, iPod and iTouch phones.
REPLY: (by Rodeo) Apr 10 2013 9:08pm
^ what she said. xD There is a free version of it that lasts like 2 weeks, and then after that it costs $2.99
REPLY: (by Faolan) Apr 11 2013 5:00am
I had it. If you refer people, you get more time. It's pretty cool, but it was laggy and crashed sometimes, and I used an iPhone 5 so I feel like it should have been faster.
REPLY: (by Softly) Apr 13 2013 9:23am
I also tested out the app, Puffin Browser, and was pleasantly surprised. Although a little laggy, it alowed me to most anything I wanted to on HI. I reccomend it. On a sidenote, I was on my iPhone and the screen was small- Perhaps if someone tried it on an iPad things would work better?
Thanks- Softly.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Selling/Buying for Real Money
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 13 2013 1:01pm
Please be aware that buying or selling things on this game for real money is breaking Federal Copyright laws.

It's also breaking Federal Children's Online Privacy Protection laws as to do the above requires sharing personal information.

Do NOT do this.

If caught you will be permanently banned.

I'm not talking about subscriptions and PO's which players purchase with real money and sell to others for game money.

I'm talking about buying/selling actual pixel horses or tack for real life money. You do NOT own those, they belong to Durbin Development Inc. You may buy, sell, trade them on this game. You may use game money to purchase them, you may use game money to purchase subs and PO's from others. You may NOT use real money to purchase subs, PO's, horses, tack or anything else from others.

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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Buying/Selling Ranches
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 13 2013 11:38am
Players can NOT sell Ranches to others. Only back to the game.

Players can NOT buy ranches from others Only from the game.

It's impossible to "sell" or "buy" a ranch except from the game, there is absolutely no way to transfer it. So do not attempt to "scam" others by trying to sell a ranch that you can't sell.

Please do not be "scammed" by trying to buy a ranch a player can't sell to you.

It's not a rule it's an impossibility. The game does not allow ranch transfers between players.

No scamming others is a rule.

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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Releasing Horses (DesertPaint Repost)
REPLY: (by NightMare) Oct 31 2013 4:16am
There are 30 wild horses out at all times. When you release 1 then there are 31. So someone captures a wild, no other wild will be placed into the game until the count goes to 29. So it might delay a wild breed from being placed into the game.

Players whisper to find wild horses not released horses. They do tend to be a bit angry when they spend $50,000 to whisper a wild of a breed they want only to find out it was released.

Released horses will remain in the game for 1 real time hour then auto-delete. So for those of you who release to return the horse to the wild. You are deleting the horse, or if another catches it the horse will probably be pawned, where at least it goes to another land to run wild and free.

If you are going to release it's nice to let others know you are going to release a specific breed. (Ads chat please.) :)

That way others know not to whisper that breed for a while.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 8 2017 11:16am
To add to this, now that the Pawneer pays more for horses, this really isn't a big deal.

Just capture it and pawn it, you get some money.

It's always nice to let people know you are releasing breed ______.

It is Not against the rules to release horses, players may do so if they wish to. They also do not Have to announce it.

So if you find you whispered a released horse, just pawn it and get some money if you don't want the horse.

If you are whispering for a specific breed then you got that breed whether or not it's been captured before, it's the breed you were looking for.

If you are just going down the list to whisper to pawn, then same thing...You got the horse, pawn it.

Please do not harass others because they released a horse. :)
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Breaking Coypright Laws - Selling HI material for real money
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 27 2013 9:13am
Please be aware that selling on game horses (or any Horse Isle copyrighted material) off game for real is breaking Federal Coypright laws.

You Do NOT own these horses or the material except for on game, they are owned by Durbin Development Inc. They are copyrighted by said company. You can be prosecuted for this regardless of what country you live in.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 1 2017 12:53pm
Bumping this up.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Clarification on Subs/PO's Buying/Selling
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 4 2014 1:44pm
At this time, due to the low player counts on many of the servers, it's not really practical to only advertise you wish to buy/sell a subscription/PO on that one server. (There may not be any other players on, or only a few are on.)

Since these can be gifted to any server, and since we do allow them to be advertised in the forums... It's logical at this time to also allow them to be advertised on different servers.

If you are selling a sub however you do need to be currently subscribed to the server you are advertising on. However to buy one you may be on any server.

Please do be careful though and make very certain their is a clear agreement between both parties as to which server payment will be made on. (And of course which server the sub/PO is to be gifted to.)
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Name Changes
REPLY: (by CaptainSifKirk) Sep 12 2014 4:04pm
I'm not sure what section to put this subject in, but I'll try here.
I think we should get more then one name change. You pay $3 for a name change on HI2. I already asked support about tokens on this game but they said there's no space for it, or something along the lines of that. But what if, say you get a month sub. You're able to change your name once, like it is now pretty much. But if you buy another month sub, then you're allowed to change your name. And what if, we get a year sub, but we are only allowed to change our name 3 times, like once every 100 days, unless we buy another sub.
HI has said you're limited ONE name change to avoid confusion. But what I don't understand is that you can change your name on HI2 as many times as you wish, as long as you pay. I know a lot of people have been playing here and some have used up that final name change and don't want to go back to their old name and would like to have a different name. I know I would. I actually requested my old account be deleted so I could make a new account cause I wasn't able to change my name anymore. So I had to start ALL over again. It was a risk I was willing to take, but don't you guys agree? Maybe we can figure out some sort of other way besides the sub way like I suggested? I'm just saying. HI has said one name change to avoid confusion, but you can have as many name changes as you want on HI2 as long as you pay. I think it should be like that for HI1 as well.
-CaptainSifKirk (Pinto)
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 12 2014 4:11pm
The reason this isn't basically allowed is because, unlike HI2, we can Only track players by their usernames on HI1. On HI2 we can track by player ID so the username isn't really important.

So for example lets say you got ripped of by PlayerX who then had a name change to PlayerAble. I have no idea who PlayerX is now. So short version: I either have to track though support mail and see who got a name change if possible to find if the old name was mentioned. If not, then no way of knowing. So the scammer gets away with it.

Also, it is a total 100% nightmare to try to sift though weeks of chat logs and player name changes. This happened when HI2 went live and players were allowed a free name change, oh my word, the time involved in trying to figure out who was who was unreal.

And, unfortunately HI1 can't be re-programmed to track with player ID. :(

I think it would be great for players to be able to change their names, but on this game unfortunately it's not feasible.

Sorry
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Jumping order
REPLY: (by CocoIsLoco) Nov 18 2014 6:50pm
So me and one of my buds were talking last night while jumping and she was having a hard time finding a horse she wanted to jump. so we were thinking why not have HI put them in ABC order? it would be easier for a lot of people to find the horse they are looking for and youll have a better chance of getting into jumping for you guys on busy servers. it was just a thought. what do you guys think? open to ideas
REPLY: (by OneTuffPolkaDot) Nov 18 2014 6:53pm
YES!!!
REPLY: (by FlubbyStarfish) Nov 18 2014 7:01pm
YESSSSS!!!! OHHHH YESSS!
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REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 7 2013 8:22pm
Maxed means no new programming can be added in. HI1 is programmed in the old Adobe Flash php programming language and it's pretty much a block of programming. That is the core programming. Nothing more can be added to that as it has reached it's limit. Adding more crashes the game.

HI2 is programmed in the modulated new Adobe Flash php which can be updated.

So HI1 can have a few peripheral things: horses, companions and quests. Other than that there really isn't much if anything that can be added in. Nor can things be altered as it's all mixed in together.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: QUIT GAME button
REPLY: (by CocoIsLoco) Jan 6 2015 6:43pm
ok i know im not the only one that when in the barn/ferrier/stores/profiles scroll to fast and end up hitting the QUIT GAME button. is there anyway we could move the button over a little?
REPLY: (by Sphyinx) Jan 6 2015 10:07pm
oh my gosh I do this so much and the little box doesn't even show up it just closes the window.
REPLY: (by Ebony) Jan 7 2015 1:14am
Same, plus my mouse is super sensitive so it always decides to click on the quit button xD
REPLY: (by RogueSpirit) Jan 10 2015 3:59pm
I know so many people, including myself, who have this problem xD It'd be amazing to move it over. Or get rid of it? I mean, we all have the little X in the top right, don't we?
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 10 2015 4:35pm
Unfortunately it can't be moved. I sure wish it could though, I'm one that hits that button way too often! *sigh*
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Lag in competitions:
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 8 2015 12:26pm
Just a note here.

It's not against the rules to lag or cause lag in competitions. Sometimes it's a players computer or internet. Sometimes it's the number of players in that area, (especially with Earton.) Other times it may be deliberate, however we have no way of knowing.

There are 3 locations for competitions: Earton, Whitherton and Equestrian Park. Bird for draft.

If there is too much lag in Earton you can go to another location. Or vice versa as needed.

I realize it's frustrating to have so much lag, but sometimes it's unavoidable. Other times it's not but we don't know which. Thus it's not against the rules to have or cause lag for yourself and/or others.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Re: Money Limits and Auto-Sell
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 27 2015 1:55pm
Please be aware that the over-max on hand limit block does NOT apply to auto-sell.

If you have a lot of money on hand and you have horses on auto-sell, if they sell and that amount goes over the limit you lose whatever you sold them for plus what you had on hand as the game reaches counter max and resets to 0. So everything disappears.

We do not have logs of what disappears, you are out of money and that's it... Please be careful.

There are over-max blocks in place for player-to-player trades and bank-to-player money, but this does Not apply to auto-sell.

The max allowed money on hand is 2.47 billion. Max in the bank is 9,999,999,999 billion.

So if you do player-player trade and that trade takes you over the max the game will block the trade.

This is Not in place for auto-sell. What will happen is stated above...Money that is over max will overload the counter and it will automatically reset itself to zero. So what you end up with is zero on hand. The other person Will get the horses, but you Won't get the money and you will lose whatever you had on-hand.

So, be sure to keep your on-hand money well below the limit if your auto-sell horses sell.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Rules updated
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 2 2015 12:02pm
Miranda has clarified some rules which you might wish to check out.

Click on Rules at the bottom of the page.

New content: On that first Rules page, under #1, the third line down is the new addition.

Detailed Rules: Under "Dating" please refer to rule #4.

The additions are not open to debate or discussion.

Thanks
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Transferring Servers
REPLY: (by Phantom) Jun 26 2015 9:17pm
I was just wondering if there would possibly be a way to transfer horses/money/tack over to a different server. Is there any possible way that it might happen in the future to allow players to change servers without having to be a completely new player? :)
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 26 2015 9:20pm
No there isn't. Each server is totally and completely separate from the others. The coding for the game is a solid block of stuff here and there. To move something from one block then try to figure out where to put it in another block would most likely result in a total crash. Copy/paste just isn't something that can be done for thousands of things from basically one game to another game one item at a time.
REPLY: (by Phantom) Jun 26 2015 9:30pm
Oh, I understand. Thanks for the help.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Lag
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 17 2015 12:07pm
Some players seem to be having lag issues.

Here are some things you can try:

Log off, clear out your browser's
cache (delete history files.) This is different for each browser.

Firefox:
Tools -> Clear Recent History -> make sure Cache is selected, then
click Clear Now.

Internet Explorer:
Safety -> Delete Browsing History -> make sure History and Temporary
Internet Files are checked, then click Delete.

Google Chrome:
Three bars icon-> Tools-> Clear browsing data. Or do Ctrl+Shift+Del.

Safari for Mac:
Safari -> Empty Cache -> Click Empty.

Safari for Windows:
Edit -> Empty Cache -> Click Empty.

Opera:
Click on the Opera icon (upper left) -> Settings -> Delete Private Data.

If this does not solve your problem, do it again, then shut down your
computer completely, wait for at least 30 seconds, then start it back
up again.

If you are still having a problem try using a different browser such
as Mozilla Firefox, Google Chrome, Opera or Safari.

Do try Opera if you are still having a problem as it uses less memory to run.

Be sure you don't have any other application running on your computer
at the same time such as music, chat messaging, or any other app.

In Settings (click on wrench/spanner in lower right corner) go to "Low Detail."

If you are on WiFi, and if it's possible, try connecting directly to
the modem via an ethernet cable and see if that helps.

Also, if you are going to be competing, try logging off then back on
just before entering the competition. That will clear out the buffer
and help speed it up a bit possibly.

And, if you do experience lag, log off then back on. If that helps,
then it's a buffer issue which really can only be cleared out by the
log off/on.

If you still are having lag, check and see if you need to update any
drivers on your computer, especially video drivers. An out-dated
driver can cause a lot of lag and they frequently need to be udpated.

Do check those drivers. :)
REPLY: (by FlashOfHope) Oct 19 2015 3:54pm
Was kinda hoping someone else would post this...but since they haven't...

Trying not to sound too rude here...but the math doesn't add up.

I highly doubt that every single player doesn't clear cache or uses the same browser even. I know in my home RIGHT NOW....I have 3 completely different computers. I have my old dino, my 7 month old laptop, and my roommate's custom built gaming pc. All 3 computers play this game the same. If I'm jumping, I have 30 minutes before lag becomes unbearable. If I am whispering, maybe 45 minutes. Questing, I have about an hour. On all 3 computers. My internet provider has been changed 3 times since June(Roommate got a "good deal" with a company known for breaking contracts, fixed the problem by going with a company that doesn't work if there is a tiny cloud in the sky, and I fixed his problems by going back with the original company).

I keep all the computers here bug free and fully updated.

So...when my 10 year old desk top is running a game the same as the super gaming computer...it is NOT a computer issue. All 3 Internet providers ran the same. Outside of the cloudy day idiots, I could only use that one when it was sunny. But still ran the same on those nice days.

I know the lag is not caused by "too many players" as I have seen mentioned. I first joined a few days after the game began. I remember stuff that very few even recall. I remember FULL servers with no lag.

These solutions that are given here...are what I was told to do back when I couldn't get my game to load a few years ago. I'd get that stupid purple screen. It wouldn't do anymore than that.

I lost my account because I was told that the issue was on my side. I had a collection of 99% horses and a 100%. Because THIS was the fix. I tried logging in on my computer, library computers, friend's computers, and my cousin's(Who was a player as well). I could sign into my cousin's account on MY computer, but my own wouldn't load. 7 years worth of work on that account. Gone.

Maybe its time to realize not all problems are on the players.

EVERYONE I have talked to has the SAME issue going on right now. The odds of them ALL using the SAME browser, not updating, not clearing cache, being wired/wireless, AND playing on the same age/model of computers...odds of being hit by lightning are higher.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 19 2015 10:32pm
Some players experience lag, some don't. I do not have lag when on HI.

Many players don't have lag. Some players do.

The above is about all we can do since the game is the game, there isn't anything Joe can do about lag that only some players experience. Since not all players have lag, it isn't the game.

It has to do with players internet or computer or area/location. Each internet company is different. It might be lost packets at the intermediary server. Signals go from your home to the internet provider then to a server that then directs the signal to the game server. That directing server is independent, and might or might not be working well. We have nothing to do with that server, it's under contract with your internet company, however the internet company does not own it or control it. (USA)

There are many other issues that can also arise. It might have to do with where you are in the world verses the location of the servers. The further from the server the more lag. At this time...I think...The servers are in Minnesota USA. If not, then California USA probably. I'm not totally sure.

Since this doesn't happen to all players, there really isn't much we can do other than the above recommendations. I am not at your home to run diagnostics on your computer and internet company nor run a path ping (for dropped packets,) as well as other things.

Different browsers run differently on different computers. Even of the same brand, each computer is slightly unique. What works on one may or may not work well on another. Opera browser uses less memory to run so we recommend that if you have lag. It may or may not help...It's just something that might help.

The game servers are old. Some computers may have problems with that possibly. I really don't know. These things (computers) can be very finicky and picky sometimes. One computer will like something, another won't.

The above are suggestions that may help with the most common problems. If they don't solve your problem I'm sorry. I'm not in a position to recommend any other options.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Oct 21 2015 3:26pm
I play a lot. Sometimes I have lag, as follows:

I play on Firefox. I usually have multiple browser windows open in the back and then the game open in a smaller window of its own. Some background sites seem to add to the lag ie. having certain social media sites open will slow my game play down so if I am whispering I leave those sites. The difference between having them open and not, to me, is approx. 10 FPS (horrible lag) vs. 21 FPS (a very acceptable speed for whispering etc.) so a notable difference.

At some other times the lag 'builds up' after I have played a while and I sort it by logging out and back in which gets me back to my top speed which seems to be around 21 FPS.

So on my end the lag issues are manageable and seem to be tied to my own actions and Internet use. I play/browse accordingly.

Maybe not helpful but I just wanted to add a positive perspective.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Account Merge
REPLY: (by WildHorseCatcher) Nov 10 2015 12:08pm
This is a question for an Admin, I know you said it would take too much coding to "copy and paste" but what about a Merge ? I see it on other games and I always think "wish I could do that on HI". I mean Roan is practically a dead zone. but all my money, experience and work is going to waste sitting on Roan. I was just curious if this was an option somewhere in the near or far future.
REPLY: (by Indesii) Nov 10 2015 2:14pm
I'm just gonna answer for them as this has been in forums several times. The servers are entirely separate and cannot be merged. Even if it were possible, it wouldn't work due to things like ranches - if two people have the same ranch on two servers that are intended to merge, one would unfairly lose out. Sadly if it was practical and possible, I imagine it would have already been done long ago.
REPLY: (by SwanSong) Nov 10 2015 3:57pm
Locking thread since this has been answered before. Transfering between accounts and merging accounts are not possible.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Adding Quests
REPLY: (by StainGlassMan) Nov 12 2015 7:05am
I was wondering how much longer until Horse Isle can no longer add quests.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 12 2015 11:05am
There is no limit. :)
REPLY: (by ZeldaRoseAngel) Nov 14 2015 9:42am
BUT can we stop adding them ? *laughing out loud!* just kidding i like doing some of them :)
REPLY: (by StainGlassMan) Nov 16 2015 9:24am
Yea. But ever done that one for Hakinka where you must go to every big isle? I hate that one SO much.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 16 2015 11:36am
Adding quests, new breeds, companions and tack is about all that can be added into the game at this point (obviously there are a few other things such as new isles, ranches, npc's, but nothing "major" can be added in.) So to have updates with new content, we kind of have to add the new content... *laughing out loud!*

Some are designed to be er, extensive and time consuming. Mostly because many players have completed all the content and basically have nothing else to do, so a time consuming quest is created.

Horse Isle is a quest based horse game, thus quests are rather an essential part of the game. XD

If you have specific types of quests you would like to see added in, please feel free to mention that. DesertMorn is our quest writer and she checks the forums from time to time. She creates the quests, but if there is a type of quest you really enjoy, such as finding hidden things or running errands or something like that, let her know. :)

Note: Quests obviously need to follow along with the theme of the game and comply with the rules of the game.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Trading Between Games
REPLY: (by SwanSong) Dec 4 2015 9:21pm
Trading between Horse Isle I, Horse Isle 2 Eternal & Horse Isle 2 Life Cycle is strictly forbidden. One thread has had to be removed.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Training: Trading on a Promise
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 31 2015 1:44pm
We do not have a set up to where this actually works well.

Thus we do not recommend players do this.

However, obviously players are. *laughing out loud!*

So:

When you enter into a training agreement or any type of agreement please use a sort of contract arrangement.

Example:

X amount of training for horse (name) to be done within X amount of time. If contact happens then X amount of money will be paid.

If training is not completed (specify what is to happen here = no money given, x amount of money given...)

Contract may be changed if both parties agree to it, but otherwise that contract is binding.

This way...If one person defaults on the contract (doesn't complete the agreement) I can see exactly what was supposed to happen, exactly who did or did not do what.

Note: I have no idea if or how much training was done on the horse, so that part is not entered in here. Basically this is for PartyA decides to keep the horse. Or PartyB refuses to pick up the horse.

What I can see is who is supposed to have the horse and who isn't giving the horse back, or who is asking for more than a contract agreement... That type of thing.

When you give a horse out for training, expect to pay for it. If you take a horse for training, train it or don't expect to be paid for it. Do not keep the horse if you are only to train it for X amount of time.

Be sure to pick up the horse on time if you are the owner. If you can't be on, make arrangements for that with the trainer.

Or, expect to be scammed. I need clear contracts/agreements before I can act on them.

Because this training bit is iffy...is why it's not recommend you do this. Many, many players lose their horses. On HI2 there is a lease contract system that prevents this, but unfortunately it can't be put into HI1. So if you choose to let your horse out for training, please be very careful and don't be too upset if you lose the horse, or lose money.

Trainers, be clear and precise and fulfill the contract, do not keep the horse (unless the owner fails to take the horse back after training is completed or refuses to pay anything.) And please specify in the contract what is to happen if this is the case.

We follow the real life rules for horse training.

If you have questions please ask here, I will check this topic off and on.

So basically the contract should include the following:

1) Amount of training to be done.
2) Amount of money to be paid for above training or whatever payment is to be done.
3) Amount of time above is to occur.
4) What will happen if training is not completed.
5) What will happen if owner does not pick up horse on time.
6) Are refunds given or not. (Always best to pay in full after training.)
7) Can contract be changed or is it locked as is (not alterable.)

Then...I have something to work with if the above doesn't happen. :)
REPLY: (by Aniya) Jan 3 2016 3:46pm
I have a horse out for training with a player who just never came back online... i even bought a sub for them when they hit 60 days off so that their account would stay alive with a wishful hope they might come back.. they have now been off 78 Days. Dont know if there is anything at all that can be done, but i thought id ask anyways.. :)
REPLY: (by Aniya) Jan 3 2016 3:48pm
Also, what happens if a horse is training with someone and they get banned?
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 3 2016 5:04pm
The horse remains on the others account. We do not return things. So if an account times out, so does the horse.

For banning, again the horse remains on their account, so if the ban is permanent the horse will eventually time out along with the banned account.

If the account did time out, then the horse is gone from the game. We don't back up deleted accounts, they are gone permanently.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Explaining a ddos attack
REPLY: (by Saru) Jan 6 2016 8:08am
Alright, as some people are confused about what a ddos attack is and such, I'll explain. It's pretty much the hacker attempting to overload pinto with login attempts to put it shortly. Pinto shuts down to protect itself from these. It's not a data leak or the hacker trying to get more info. The hacker cannot get any more info then he already has.
To explain to those unfamiliar with computer slang. The servers are like turtles. The turtles allow some animals to ride on there back. However, suddenly there are hundreds upon hundreds of animals wanting a ride. The turtle goes back into its shell until the amount of animals trying to ride has returned to normal.
So pretty much your paymeant info is safe if your passwords are different, your passwords should be safe if you have changed them since the initial hack, and people need to breath. Pintos data is fine.:)
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Thank you Saru! :)
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: PayPal/Billing information
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 9 2016 11:46am
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You click on the PayPal link and it takes you to PayPal. We are dropped off, our contact with you ends there. PayPal process the information and then sends up the final result = money and what it's to be used for. Nothing else.

We have no access to PayPal's information: What you enter at PayPal such as PayPal pass or credit info. There is no way to get to that access via / from / though Horse Isle either.

We simply do not have it, so can't get what isn't there. :)

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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: HI1 Security Status
REPLY: (by Jor) Jan 14 2016 9:14am
Hey All!

Sorry for the server accessibility and security drama last week.
We patched the abused security hole. And spent time reviewing code for other holes.
We also spent time doubling down on server backups. no matter what anyone ever did,
we could always restore everything from a previous backup from the previous days.
We take your pets and account seriously, and will do everything in our power to protect.

As a thank you/apology I'm going to see if I can't add a little additional functionality to Hi1.
In my next post, I will ask for suggestions and spend some time working on HI1 (Likely only minor things possible).

Thanks for your continued interest! We appreciate all of you.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Interest
REPLY: (by Duvel) Jan 22 2016 7:59pm
Hey, so I don't think I'm the only one who thinks that 250m for interest is a little bit ridiculous xD I love most parts of the update, but the interest thing bothers me the most. For a compromise, maybe we could have a tiered system? Like full interest for the new players, and then maybe half for the people with like 1b-6b, and then 6b+ only a quarter? Just an idea. It's harder for people like me, with 100% qp to get money now :)
REPLY: (by FinalOpal) Jan 22 2016 8:03pm
Exactly. Although you guys upped everything regarding economy(quests, etc), most of the people with max money or close to that have already completed all the quests/other money makers, so it doesn't really help us. I think the tiered system is a great idea, and it'll continue to help the economy and reduce inflation.

(Although I think the interest should've stayed the way it was, that's just my opinion. :))
REPLY: (by Centauri) Jan 22 2016 8:03pm
I agree with this. I'm totally in support of lowering interest rates for people with more cash, but also we did work to get that money. And just pushing us all back to the 250mil mark interest wise I feel is a bit unwarranted.
REPLY: (by Duce) Jan 22 2016 8:05pm
I agree 100% with Duv. It's not fair to players that have worked hard to earn a lot of money to have the same gain from interest as a player with only 100m in the bank. A lot of us rely on interest for the majority of out income in the game. I'd like to see a more fair system put into place...
REPLY: (by EepZigZag) Jan 22 2016 8:07pm
^^ Agreed 100%. Interest was the main way I made money and honestly the main reason I had money to spend on horses... I think people will buy less and less if they don't know they can make that money back eventually in interest.
REPLY: (by Aniya) Jan 22 2016 8:15pm
I dont know how it would play out to have an interest rate where we only make 50m a month from max interest when those with max made 6b a month, this makes sub prices go from 600m to 6m, but it would never really get to the price it should with people still walking around with billions. If we go back to the 100m max,(easier number to work with) then thats basically just cutting 2 0's off the end of everything. so if we cut the last 2 numbers off everything across the board (the money in everyones hand and in bank) then no one is really losing anything and it helps new players be able to catch up. (you lower pellets to 10m, and all the pellets people are hoarding are now only worth 10m)
REPLY: (by Aniya) Jan 22 2016 8:16pm
they made 2b a month, sorry i noticed that typo after i posted already.
REPLY: (by CleverDisguise) Jan 22 2016 8:16pm
Total support. Most of my money comes from the sale of POs. My secondary income is interest. I can't infinitely buy POs, and if interest is continuing on the way it has, then that won't be a viable option either. Which'll force me to withdraw into my own account. (ie: if I'm not making money, I'm not spending a dime on anyone else's horse.)
REPLY: (by EepZigZag) Jan 22 2016 8:19pm
I think the main problem is that if people don't have a reliable source of income (ie, interest) they won't buy and the economy goes south from there. Everyone will be looking to sell horses and there will be no buyers.
REPLY: (by Aniya) Jan 22 2016 8:23pm
the 50m a month would be reliable source of income if that was comparable to what 2b used to be, which would mean droping everyone who has 10b down to 100m, dropping everyone at that rate across the board means no one will lose anything.
REPLY: (by Jor) Jan 22 2016 8:27pm
Since this affects everyone equally, it should simply lower inflation a little and allow for newer players to take part in the economy a little more. We're going to leave it as is, just to see how things play out. We ask that everyone make a go at it, and if a tweak is definitely needed, we can in a few weeks if needed.

But by far, the interest has always been way out of sync with the rest of the game. Windmills should be a viable alternative, etc. I had aspirations of much bigger changes to the economy, but scaled them back. :)
REPLY: (by Aetheria) Jan 22 2016 8:45pm
I would agree that a tier system sounds nice but I'm happy to give this new system a go. :)
REPLY: (by Amped) Jan 22 2016 8:48pm
For us players that have sunk hundreds of real life dollars into this game this is really going to hurt us. I understand giving the new players a chance to catch up. But that is why people like me help out new players with horse, tack and money. Now it feels like us older players that have worked our butts off are getting the short hand.
REPLY: (by Flames) Jan 22 2016 8:51pm
I wouldn't mind reverting back to the old system or a tiered system. As others have noted above, it's a drastic change in literally an instant. People went form 3M an hour to 75k. That's a 97.5% drop. I understand that the point was to combat inflation but consider that:
1) New pellets were implemented to act as a sink to combat this.
2) New players already could have participated in the economy by whispering, exp. training, and INTEREST. I started on grey last year and reached maxed bank due to interest ONLY.
REPLY: (by Bula) Jan 22 2016 9:37pm
I didn't see this form post and accidentally made a new one...

So I love the entire update and am really excited to play.
The only real thing I have a problem with is the interest. Don't get me wrong, it's a fabulous idea for Pinto. The only problem I have is that on other servers, such as my home server Bay, the only way to make money to do anything with is through interest. And even making nearly 2m a day for interest, after 20 days you would only get 40m. I'm wondering if there's a way to fix this for the not so popular servers?
I make my money for whispering and for renting pegs/unis and pellets through interest, as rarely anyone buys horses there anymore through interest. I hope this can be fixed or tweaked!


Bula xo Pinto/Bay
REPLY: (by JimneyCricket) Jan 22 2016 9:46pm
Pretty disappointed with the new interest changes as most of my whispering money was from interest. I don't think I will be using any of the new additions now with the lack of interest, otherwise I will quickly deplete my bank account. Considering how hard most of us worked to build up our bank accounts I think it is disappointing that we lose the main benefit of keeping large amounts in the bank. I for one will no longer be spending money selling subs/POs or buying myself subs as there is no real benefit now.
REPLY: (by WhiteFang) Jan 22 2016 10:02pm
Seconding Bula on that.
REPLY: (by LittleWolf) Jan 22 2016 10:10pm
While I'm not currently affected by this change, I know that I will. Especially since there are $1BIL+ tack sets, players like myself who have to save to buy these sets, the interest cut will make this a horrible goal to reach. There's only so much questing and mini-games can give you, interest helps out a lot when savings for items like this in the game. :/
REPLY: (by CrimsonPetals) Jan 22 2016 10:29pm
I agree with the earlier comment posted by Flames. Most of the recent additions were added with the intention of creating a money sink, these additions now seem null and void with the current changes to interest.
The tiered system is an interesting concept, and I can't help but wonder why it was not more seriously considered as a viable option by administration. It is already difficult enough to entice new players to the game with the current economy, reducing the percentage of interest earned I fear will have a negative effect. As a relatively established player on the game, I still have a large quantity of savings. But newer players will struggle to adapt in the new economy where 'old money' still exists but the expense of tack and companions will be an ultimately unreachable goal.
I don't disagree with the current efforts to adjust the grossly inflated economy, but I question such a drastic change. I’m happy to partake in a trial period to accommodate the new changes in the interest rate, but I think it is something that will inevitably have to be reviewed at a later date.
REPLY: (by Centauri) Jan 22 2016 10:35pm
I'd just like to add, that I think most of the players here really do appreciate all the new updates you've given us and how thankful we are to be receiving new content to the game. Just this one detail sort of voids the new content, as others have said.
REPLY: (by Saru) Jan 22 2016 11:03pm
Why dont you all give it a chance before bashing it *laughing out loud!*
REPLY: (by Indesii) Jan 22 2016 11:03pm
Whew just saw this thread.

I have to agree. I love the majority of the updates, but I don't plan to use any of them when I'll get so little interest that I can't earn it back.

The new players will be helped by larger payouts for quests, and with money sinks now available, I don't see a reason to reduce interest.
REPLY: (by Aniya) Jan 23 2016 3:38am
And i dont know how well its gonna work trying to transition from working in the billions to working in the millions. :)
REPLY: (by SierraMyPony) Jan 23 2016 4:52am
I'm a new player on pinto, originating from chestnut. I have 400m right now from selling high UT'd wilds, and I'm relying on interest for the most part to get more money. I don't have 75% QP, so most players get to the wilds before I do if I try whispering and selling for profit. Interest plays a huge part in my game play so I hope you consider making changes..
REPLY: (by Centauri) Jan 23 2016 7:33am
Also, just a comment, maybe we could avoid name calling? I don't believe we are acting like "fussy spoiled children", we are just stating are opinion. This interest rate is sort of like the debate on taxing the rich in the real world. People on both sides of the argument aren't children, just stating their mind. I just really don't want this to turn into another debate similar to the height/color pellets. Thanks guys :D
REPLY: (by Aria) Jan 23 2016 7:48am
First of all, people, we have been asking for some of these updates for YEARS. Reording horses in the competitions has shown up randomly in the forums hundreds of times since the game was created. And now that we get one of the biggest game overhauls in several years, the FIRST thing we do is come here and bash one change?

So I would first like to say THANK YOU to Joe for recognizing some of the things that players have been asking for and giving them to us, and taking the time and effort to get our opinion and make those changes.

Now, I agree the interest rate was a drastic change, but is anyone going to agree the economy isn't out of control? It's a starting point, and Joe has said they can make changes based on how it goes for a few weeks. Maybe too much at once, but this forum just sounds kind of whiny and ungrateful and I can't argue that the idea wasn't good.

I'm perfectly okay to let this play out for a few weeks and reevaluate from there. I particularly like Aniya's proposal as a way to slowly scale us back and help people who were making interest on a full bank to adjust their thinking. But playing this way for a bit and giving it a fair shot is not gonna hurt anyone.

I also particularly like Bula's point about other servers, as they are now kind of toasted without other people to play with and little interest. I'm sure Joe will find a way to address this.

I'm glad we're still seeing big updates like this and getting things we asked for. Let's try to be a bit more grateful for it?
REPLY: (by Aniya) Jan 23 2016 7:59am
Sorry, i should state that i absolutely love Everything else about the update, and i dont even dislike the idea of putting a lower cap on the bank interest, i think it could be a very good idea, but i think right now 5b might be better then 250m since we are all used to trading in the billions, im not at all trying to whine :)
REPLY: (by WildFlight) Jan 23 2016 10:37am
So. This new update was an interesting one. I'm one of the older players on here, I've hit max bank a while ago so this new Interest situation effects me a lot.

Part of me dislikes this new change, for obvious reasons. (my only income was from interest). And I would like it to go back to how it was.

However, I'm also very interested to see how all this will play out. Just see what happens to the economy and everything.

I'm willing to wait things out. Give this new system a chance. But I do ultimately think that eventually I'll want the interest to go back to how it was.
REPLY: (by Lou) Jan 23 2016 11:11am
Going to add my thoughts. Overall, the changes are amazing and I love them! Though, the interest change does put a damper on things. I understand that money has gotten out of control in some servers. However, for dead servers, such as my home server, I have no way to make money but through interest. I have completed every quest there is to complete and there is no one besides myself who is usually on the server. Granted, I haven't much reason to be spending money, but it was nice to be able to buy the top tack and pellets, especially the height and color ones.

However, it puts me off from wanting to do that since there is literally no possible way for me to ever get that money back due to the fact there is no one to sell horses to aside from the pawneer and currently there are no quests to be done. I do like the idea of having a tier system or maybe adjusting the interest based around the economy of each server. It kind of feels that one server is running the show on everything since all the money/players are there. That's just my thoughts on things. I'm willing to give it a try though.
REPLY: (by Photographs) Jan 23 2016 11:28am
Don't understand how we're meant to buy the pellets or buy horses when we don't want to spend our money because we aren't getting interest. Nothing is selling whatsoever on Pinto because people don't want to spend their money. People on their home servers can't pellet horses now as they don't earn any interest, so they almost want to quit them. I do not believe lowering by this amount was in any way a smart decision. If it was halved, okay, that's fine. I mean 75k an hour? That's 60m a month. A Unipeg costs 50m for 2 hours. No one wants to use it. No one wants to use half of the new stuff simply BECAUSE of the sudden interest change. Half the players already want to quit, this doesn't encourage the growth of horse isle population at all.
REPLY: (by Photographs) Jan 23 2016 11:31am
I'd rather have not had the update at all had I'd known that we would basically get no interest.
REPLY: (by Photographs) Jan 23 2016 11:43am
I do LOVE everything in the new update but this, I wasted 10b trying to make a horse max height and it didn't work, and now I have no money or interest to rely on. It's just a shock to the system. Nothing is selling and not many people know what to do.
REPLY: (by DixieCup) Jan 23 2016 11:48am
HOWEVER I would like the old interest back and so would a lot of others!
REPLY: (by Aniya) Jan 23 2016 11:51am
Yeah i know im not spending any money right now... XD
REPLY: (by DixieCup) Jan 23 2016 11:55am
HOWEVER I would like the old interest back and so would a lot of others!
REPLY: (by Aniya) Jan 23 2016 11:58am
1b would be perfect price if we were making same interest or even interest off 5b cap, But if they keep this interest i think the pellet costs will probably have to come down soon... :)
REPLY: (by Aniya) Jan 23 2016 11:58am
i mean with the interest we had..
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 23 2016 11:59am
This will level out in 2 or 3 weeks, at which point it's not going to be the big deal it currently is.

Things to consider:

1) While the cap remains high, it's going to take longer to replace spent money. So, don't try to sell a horse for what you previously tried to sell it for. Lower the price some. Sell more in bulk than individually, you can make quite a profit this way, even now.

2) You still gain interest, just not as quickly. Plan your Horse Isle life accordingly. Don't buy umpteen pellets, beans, droplets if you can't afford them. Be patient, earn the money then buy them. :) Actually makes them more important, as you had to work for them. Not just spend here, spend there, and do little or nothing to recoup money.

3) We actually have to work at generating money now, or be patient. We have been rather spoiled, spend a couple bill today, gain it back automatically by doing nothing in a few days with interest.

4) The above allows for new players to have a chance to actually play the game and enjoy it. I'm always hearing about how we need new players, the game is dying... Well, we get new players daily, what we don't get is new players who stick around.

Unless those new players have their own real life money to spend, they can't really enjoy the game. Horses sell for billions, they have a few thousand. Subs sell for millions to billions, they have a few thousand. So, they leave.

The changes are in place to create a bit of a balance. Rich players may stay rich, but...they will need to work a bit harder to stay there and it will take a bit longer. When they spend their money, it will take a bit longer to gain it back. New players have a chance to earn money a bit faster and buy a sub = earn money even faster then (no play time limit and can have a ranch, more horses and windmills.)

It will take players a bit longer to reach cap money, prices will drop a bit which will enable new players to be able for afford things thus giving them a reason to stay.

Lets give this a try. It's not written in stone, and there are limited things Joe can actually do. So trying to find something that will work without massively messing up what was, is a bit of a tight rope walk for Joe.

So, lets be patient, work together and see if this current set up works. :)
REPLY: (by Photographs) Jan 23 2016 12:45pm
I'm really appreciative for what you do to keep HI alive, and I am sorry that it came off rude, but at the same time, it's a shock to find out I'm suddenly only earning 75k an hour when I wasn't given notice. I appreciate that you are trying to lower economy, I do, and everyone loves the new additions, we just feel like we can't use them.
REPLY: (by Liopleurodon) Jan 23 2016 12:56pm
I feel the exact same way! As much as I love all the new improvements, this was fitted for an economy that was super inflated and now since we barely make interest enough to support these new improvements, it does feel a little pointless now? Unfortunately. After all, I would love to use these new improvements more, of course.
REPLY: (by Sarahrosehorse) Jan 23 2016 1:15pm
I feel as if this change is going to make older/richer players less keen on helping out new players, because now if they want to give them some money to start out with (usually in the 100mil-500mil range on my home server, cremello) it'll take ages for them to regain that money.

On almost every server other than pinto and dun there's very few to no new players anyways, so the change doesn't do much more than cause a lot of agitation. So while this change does have the potential to help out the new players on the busier servers, it really does need to be scaled back to something more reasonable.
REPLY: (by Stray) Jan 23 2016 1:25pm
I really, truly and honestly appreciate that something's being done to fix the economy. However, I don't think so many economical changed ALL at once was a good idea. It should have started with just lowering store buy-back prices of pellets, beans, droplets. Maybe if we took interest down to .0001% like on Black server? Or the tiered thing would be nice but no one will buy anything with how things are going now.
REPLY: (by KailFish) Jan 23 2016 4:18pm
I love the changes. I hope they stick around.
REPLY: (by Duvel) Jan 23 2016 6:47pm
Can Joe please consider a tiered system? It would allow new players to earn money faster, while still cutting down on the interest of the richest players. And one major problem is the idea of buying a ton of pellets, then earning interest in the lower bracket, but maybe we could cut back on the sell back value of the pellets even more?
REPLY: (by DixieCup) Jan 23 2016 7:49pm
I feel all they are thinking about is Pinto, the ONLY server thats thriving still.

Servers like cremello NEED the old interest back in order for us to gain money!!!
REPLY: (by Lou) Jan 23 2016 7:59pm
I completely understand why the interest was changed, but what about the servers that don't have trade? On dead servers, there is no one to trade with! Lower our prices? Lower them for what? To trade to ghosts? I understand it with the servers that have the people for trade. Yes, lower prices for things and stop spending. However, what about Cremello, Black, Brown, Palomino, Chestnut, Grey, Roan and Bay? Are we just dead in the water then? The economy is completely shut down as it is with the lack of players. Interest is literally the only way to make money if you have completed 100% of the quests on said server. I feel it's a tad unfair to punish every single server because of a couple's problems. There is more than just those servers that are going to feel the effects from it, and it is for the negative rather than for the positive.

You mention letting new players catch up, well, I haven't seen a new player on my server in a very long length of time. We have no problems giving hand-outs to those new players to let them get a head start. It wasn't that much of a problem to do and they joined in willing enough, except on these servers, we're not seeing them. I still stand by the tier system or adjusting the interest based on the server economy. Interest high for the servers that have less a player count and lower for those that have the players to support trade.
REPLY: (by Leviathan) Jan 23 2016 11:05pm
put simply, everyone is afraid of buying now. i agree with duvel.
REPLY: (by Leviathan) Jan 23 2016 11:21pm
another point, maybe instead of changing the interest rate just to accommodate new players, give them more money for their first little quest on welcome isle! this way they can enter horse isle with a decent amount of money to start them off.
REPLY: (by EternityStar) Jan 24 2016 4:01pm
I don't know if anyone recalls their early days, but I literally received around 40 million for selling a horse when I had less than a million (on hand and in the bank added together), then relied quite a bit on interest to get to where I am today with bank max. Sure, I sold some more horses on the way, but without the high interest rates, I would have had no chance to catch up to the players who had billions in the bank, and no one would have bought the horses I was selling. I haven't played on Pinto, so I don't know what the economic situation is like there right now, but doesn't this make it worse for new players? I would be second thinking giving away money to new players now, too. I've given away 95+ utd horses with 500 million and pets and tack at once. Rich players are already hesitating now to spend money on themselves, so the giving might be impacted negatively. Love everything else about the update, though (maybe not the training thing, sorry!!, but this is unrelated). It came as a really nice surprise! :)
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 24 2016 4:06pm
I feel like this update has just cemented the divide in the economy. Those who were rich at the time of the update will probably now hold onto their money, whilst those who had depleted their bank account at the time of the update now have no real chance of rebuilding their fortune. The horse market is likely to come to a halt. I sell a LOT of horses, but I will now not be doing that as I am not happy to let them go for incredibly forced lower rates.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 24 2016 5:03pm
The thing is that Horse Isle has ALWAYS in the past been the online horse game that gives you the most for your RL money. And this is why I have been loyal for nine years. You have never been driven by greed, like some other games I shall not mention by name. And because of this you have been a very accessible and including game open to all. I have never hesitated to resub because I have always known I am getting my money's worth. I think that this interest change unfortunately makes subscribing less attractive. POs too, since you can't sell for a profit. I think reinstating the old interest would benefit EVERYONE; game and players.
REPLY: (by Animosity) Jan 24 2016 5:51pm
Even if the interest levels out, we are not making enough to even sustain a Unicorn rental. I worked pretty hard to get a Unicorn so that I could have it with no problems and my interest was keeping it to where I could afford renting one every time I logged on without losing money. Since I've earned the Unicorn I've spent over 4b just in Unicorn rentals alone. I did not work on quests and earn a Unicorn as a reward to have to continue to work just to keep renting them. I have no money as is so I wont be able to keep affording Unicorns with this interest and I am overly upset ab out it since I did in fact spend hours on quests to earn a reward and now that reward is being taken away. I don't mind less interest, but I would prefer we make at least 1m an hour or every 2 hours so that I am able to keep up Unicorn rentals.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 24 2016 5:55pm
I also rent one unicorn and one pegasus every time I log on (and I re-rent during my sessions, which usually go beyond two hours). I currently have Pegasus Teamups (4,269) and Unicorn Teamups (4,269). Combined with the cost of whispering I spend a lot of money each day and over time. I now lack a proper way to make up for it!
REPLY: (by KailFish) Jan 24 2016 6:20pm
You could just not rent a Unicorn every second that you are online. It's not really necessary and most of us get by just fine without ever having one.
REPLY: (by Animosity) Jan 24 2016 6:23pm
Well what is the point of questing to get a Unicorn if you can't use it. If you've never had one you don't understand the benefits that they offer.
REPLY: (by Duvel) Jan 24 2016 6:24pm
KailFish, when we work hard on our quests, the one goal most of us have is to get unicorns. Some quests can be fun, but no one would do more than we have to, to get started. I know most of my buddies have 75% qp, and they got that because of the unicorns.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 24 2016 6:27pm
Depending on your gameplay and goals, I'd say a unicorn and a pegasus are very much necessary. I'd never get my whispering effectively done without them, and my whispering is what funds the rest of my gameplay. I have some 57.8k captures to date. Imagine doing all of those having to navigate the traditional way.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 24 2016 6:34pm
But we HAVE worked to accumulate that interest. It has never been free.

Another point is that in order to earn the interest, we have had to log on each day to keep it from topping up and stopping. So not only have we worked to get to that point where we have earned it, we have remained active players throughout. You could never just sit back and earn endless amounts of money, you would have had to play tactically.
REPLY: (by KailFish) Jan 24 2016 6:44pm
Interest didn't top up and stop. It kept going, the bank only showed 100m.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 24 2016 6:48pm
No, once you had worked your way to the max. amount allowed by playing tactically, planning ahead and practising restraint, you would have had to come on and withdraw your interest or come to a halt.
REPLY: (by Elusive) Jan 24 2016 6:50pm
They are referring to when you reach 9,999,999,999, where the bank stops collecting money, and most players, myself included, then extract some money from the bank and let the rest gain interest again.
REPLY: (by Catori) Jan 24 2016 7:10pm
Also, earning money will be much harder now. For people like me, who have 100% qp, quests won't be a steady income. Exping won't be realistic because no one is willing to spend money, at least on dun. Same goes for selling horses.
REPLY: (by Animosity) Jan 24 2016 7:12pm
My unicorn isn't even used for whispering since I just stay in jumping Arenas. I worked to get a Unicorn for the fact that I could get to drill and I could easily pen train and not have to worry about figuring out and remembering where what pens were throughout the map. I also use my Unicorn to easily get to the 50m Companion place and to get everything done in the allotted time between jumping events. Like I said I don't mind an interest drop, I would just like enough to at least be able to rent the Unicorns I worked for.There are many benefits to having a Unicorn. Not just to get whispered horses faster if that is what your squabble against people with unicorns is. And as for interest not stopping, of course it didn't but I train for people a lot and even then I don't ever have enough money to even accomplish anything. Interest was pretty much keeping me just enough into the positives to play.
REPLY: (by Catori) Jan 24 2016 7:12pm
^ Meant people like my friends, not me *laughing out loud!*. I'm still working on my quests to get a unicorn.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 24 2016 7:13pm
I am actually genuinely surprised that with the already existing pellets, as well as the new additions, this was still deemed necessary. I have been under the impression that most players do in fact use their pellets and as such take those amounts out of the equation and the economy. My sole reason for keeping a few on hand has been for emergencies eg. in the very unlikely event my dream horse ever is generated and comes up for sale.
REPLY: (by Animosity) Jan 24 2016 7:21pm
Agree with starbuck, I spent all of my extra money on pellets for my horses and have kept count. I have pelleted 225 times which means I have sunk 225b into pellets alone. The original money sink was working fine with me since my goal was to make money to sink.
REPLY: (by Aniya) Jan 24 2016 7:28pm
I second that, I use my pellets on my horses and save a lil in case another horse pops up that i want to get... to sink more pellets into. I spend ALOT of my time on exp training, and id like to put pellets into these ponies that i spend so much time on :)
REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) Jan 24 2016 7:29pm
I agree with all of this. Im SO happy about the UniPeg. But for every time i rent it takes days just to break even. I have horses that have been for sale for over a year. I love Brown. But the ONLY way to earn money is through interest. I love whispering. I don't care if the good ones i catch sell or not. But now I feel like i can't enjoy everything they've just done for us, and Horse Isle as a whole. Every time i log in and rent a unicorn I lose money. It makes me not want to log in at all. I would be perfectly fine with the interest cap being at 5b. Please, let this game be about fun again.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 24 2016 7:31pm
I have spent a similar amount and my current pelleting project was/is a grey ISH that still has 102 billion worth of pellets left to go. All that money would have been taken out of the economy on Palo as I earned it through horse sales...
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 24 2016 7:49pm
I think the HI economy mirrors real economy to a great extent. Basically if you have no way of recouping on money that is lost, you will not spend any to begin with and the market stalls. You need to pour money INTO the system for it to work. And that is where I think restricting interest (and so severely at that) will crash. What happens when people spend their money now, and cannot recoup it? Over time (long term, but still a very real possibility) if people spend money now, there's not going to be any left circulating and no way to get more (as in any amount that matters) in.
REPLY: (by ZeldaRoseAngel) Jan 24 2016 10:06pm
i think we should make the wind mills pay out a little more then if that is going to be one of few ways to get money if the interest is so low
REPLY: (by Animosity) Jan 24 2016 11:35pm
Yes, the pinto econ go so high due to the amount of people and they lack of horses that they desired so the supply of what they wanted was low, they worked harder to offer more money in order to get it. For example, if you have a max hh pinto Spanish barb and 15 people want it and they all continue to out offer each other until one pays the most, you have a high prices horse, and then when more are caught the other people will then pay more for those as well until there are an over abundance and the supply goes down. You brought the economy down by adding the height and color pellets to make it where everyone can get what they desire instead of having to out offer each other, which would, in turn make prices of horses go down. The economy would have leveled itself out that way and ended at a place where all players could easily get what they wanted. Newer players had a fair chance of getting what they needed as well with the amount to whisper and the luck of catching a rarity to sell for a high price, which has definitely happened. I honestly don't see how interest was an issue, I see that it was an asset for the older players who either cant make anymore, or who cant play as much due to work, real life, etc.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 7:16am
Windmills paying out more will do nothing to help the established players. One windmill makes you lose space for horses. Most of us have already struggled with the horse limit at some point. We also now have no way of selling off excess horses for a profit since no one is wanting to buy, which means in order to make up space for enough windmills to get a viable income you'd have to pawn nice horses. I'd never do that with my old ones personally.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 7:19am
A major problem now is that even with the full stop in the horse market, players such as myself are losing money every day simply through playing. I now spend WAY more in a day than I can ever hope to recoup. I can still afford to keep my whispering up for a while, but no one will buy to balance out the money I spend on it. So what happens over time when no one has a chance at earning and saving up?
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 7:38am
So it seems to me that this change has more to do with "evening out" the differences in money rather than the actual amount of money that has been circulating previously.

Would the better thing to do not have been to say give a certain sum to any player holding less than x amount? It wouldn't be fair to the old timers but it would be a lot fairer than taking away our money. ANY player has an equal chance to make the same amount of money that the richest players have made. We managed it, everyone else can, too. It just comes down to playing wisely. I don't think those who have, should be effectively "punished" because not everyone plays like that.

In fact with the economy in the past I have found that the richest players buy and sell between themselves. Then the slightly less rich do the same, and so on and so forth. You work your way up. That system mirrors real life to a tee, and it works!

I also wonder if perhaps the amount of money that a rich player spends on average a day has been underestimated. I easily spend 3/4 of the interest I make a day when I rent the pegasus/unicorn combination, go on whispering sessions, and buy horses and tack. Sometimes I spend more. Even with the old interest I had to save and plan ahead if I wanted a chance of making a certain sum to go towards a horse.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 11:58am
Here is a suggestion:

How about, instead of LOWERING the interest for ESTABLISHED players, you INCREASED interest significantly on accounts younger than say six months.

I still don't think new players NEED all these changes to catch up, but anything is better than us losing interest.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 12:37pm
Suggestion number two:

Keep the decrease in interest - temporarily. Set an end date. Keep it this low for two to three months, thereby giving new players a chance to catch up, then go back to the old interest rate. We can sit a few months out, but this is NOT sustainable over time as there will be no flow in the economy whatsoever and we're all slowly going broke.

(I do apologise every so much for the multiple posts, but the forum has no edit function.)
REPLY: (by Centauri) Jan 25 2016 12:51pm
Personally, I feel like new players were given a chance to catch up even in the old economy. Yes, an interest cap was probably needed. But at 250mil? That's extreme. Maybe more around 5bil it a good target mark. I just know that we've gotten several new players on Dun, and I hate to say it, but I haven't been helping them. Usually I'll give out a decent amount of money, some nice tack, and a horse to new players to get them started. I barely want to buy tack for myself now, let alone people I don't know and who might not stay. I think this may be the mentality of a few more than just me as well.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 12:54pm
Hello everyone!
First of all, I think horse isle should be a place where players have fun, and these money issues are really spoiling a lot of it, at least for me. I think all players, whether they are new or old, should have equal opportunity to make money. If this happens, more new players will probably stick around. Those who have all day or many, many hours to spend on the game increase their profit rapidly,while the players who don't suffer because they don't have money and can't buy horses seeing as the prices are too high. I don't want to rob players of their hard work, but I think it's sad that all the new players coming in, who don't have time to earn billions, can't enjoy the game because of all the money other people have.
Let's say the max amount of money was decreased (probably a lot) and the cash you earn for quests was raised significantly. That way, it would take less time for new players to catch up, the game would grow, and the focus could shift off of money. If the general cost of things (pellets, tack, companions, horses) went down, we wouldn't need as much money in order to prosper. As for the older players who would have the max money limit, they could spent it on pellets and such to better their horses and would never have to worry about getting too much money. The interest rate should be high, so all the players could catch up to the others sooner than later. We shouldn't have to work forever to get money like in real life. Spending all night training, just to get money is not my idea of fun. Instead of doing all that, we could be questing, buying pellets and getting better horses, and not having to worry so much about money. I do think we should have to work for it, just not so much that it's taking hours and hours and hours of our lives. The oldies who are upset about losing their money need to remember first of all what's good for the game. Shutting out players and hoarding money is not helping horse isle. I think that for sure the interest should be enough to cover uni and pegi costs (however if those prices were decreased along with everything else, it wouldn't be a problem). We should be able to have a nice max money limit, where new players would still be attracted to the game because it wouldn't take light years to earn. Questing would be more tempting.
If changing the costs of things isn't a possibility, this could still be achieved by raising quest money (I believe that can be done since it has already happened a little with this recent update) and giving new players a lot of money upon arrival.
But, in my ideal world, the max amount would be lowered and the the amount you earn from questing would be raised. That way, the oldies would still have the max amount of money once the change took place. I don't don't think just changing interest rates will be beneficial or helpful, new players will still flounder. I know, because even when I was a new player, the interest didn't help much to boost the amount of money I had, because I didn't have almost any to begin with (compared to other players). I'm so excited to the prospect of change in horse isle! Many of my real life friends quit playing because they were flustered with the huge amount of money people had. I want horse isle to be a game where you can have fun again.
REPLY: (by Leviathan) Jan 25 2016 1:09pm
i totally agree with the previous post! so many valid and innovative points were made - i'm excited to see what the admins say when they read this!
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 1:16pm
But to be fair, new players have exactly the same chance of making money that the rest of us did when starting out. I have spent days and months combing beaches for gems through the years and buildt my fortune brick by brick.

Second, is the goal that everyone holds the exact amount of money? That is not how it works in real life. And such a balance, on the very unlikely chance it was ever achieved, would NEVER last. The moment you have an economy, that balance is gone. Say everyone was set to 1 million. The moment someone buys a horse the seller will be richer and the buyer poorer... notice the trend?

The game needs an economy but with this change everything has stopped up.

Furthermore is it right to do something that affects everyone in order to cater to a select few? The fairer thing, IF a change is needed at all is to do something that only affects those that need it eg. the new players.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 1:21pm
I don't think players should have to work as hard as you did to get their money! It's painstaking and boring. If the amount was set to, say, 1 million, like you said, it would be a LIMIT. No going over the limit. I understand, if everyone had 1 million, then no one could spend. But if you could only buy pellets until everyone had a lower amount, that problem would be fixed.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 1:23pm
At this point, we NEED to 'cater' to this select few. What we have (and the system we had before) did not work. Horse Isle doesn't have to be like real life.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 1:26pm
How does alienating established players benefit the growth of the game in any way, shape, or form?

I have worked for what I have.

New players have every chance to do the same. By all means raise the amoung they start out with and see if that helps.

I question how new players are going to manage to establish themselves if the old players aren't participating in the economy anymore.
REPLY: (by Leviathan) Jan 25 2016 1:27pm
when you spent your time collecting gems and such, decent horses weren't over 1b. times have changed, and so has the way we need to cater to new players.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 1:27pm
Also, I do not play on Pinto. I have no idea of the state of the economy there. Mayhaps drastic measures were needed on Pinto. But to Palomino this change is devastating.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 1:28pm
Another unconventional opinion: A brand new player doesn't NEED to start off with an expensive horse.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 1:31pm
Yes, you worked for what you have, but not all players have that time, and the game then suffers because we have no new players. We don't need anything to mimic real life, this is horse isle, and the main goal of it is to have fun. If everyone has the same basic amount of money, we wouldn't even HAVE money issues. The focus could be turned elsewhere.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 1:33pm
But why does there need to be an absolute equality between players who spend ten minutes a day just walking around the isle and players who spend four hours working on their money? If playing longer and harder doesn't come with some benefits, why should any of us play at all beyond those ten minutes..?
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 1:34pm
There needs to be an incentive to stick with the game and that incentive, the way I see it, has been meddled with now.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 1:37pm
I mentioned in my first post, there should be a challenge, but not a MASSIVE all day challenge. There there wouldn't be absolute equality, because different players would spend different amounts of money. Then the incentive would be to gain it back by quests and trading and waiting for interest.
REPLY: (by Leviathan) Jan 25 2016 1:38pm
first of all - most of the people commenting on this are from pinto. just saying.

second of all, i said absolutely nothing about starting off with an expensive horse? i simply said the when horse isle began, things were a lot different. now that's it's years on, the money older players have is a lot more than what 'older' players had at the beginning. you can't simply collect gems to catch up to the players with the 1b+ bank accounts. maybe that's what's happening on palo, but this post is mostly centered around what's happening on pinto, and it seems like you don't know much about what's going on there. just saying.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 1:41pm
No, I have no desire to play on Pinto. But those of us on other servers are even more drastically affected by this, since our economy is in no way comparable to Pinto.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 1:42pm
We would play beyond the 10 minutes because of OTHER things, money shouldn't be the focus of the game and it shouldn't be the focus of our lives. You can hang with your friends, jump, use the poetry rooms and play the mini games, do the quests, have auction parties with wilds, go fishing, the list goes on. Horse isle is not all about money. Or at least it shouldn't be. That way poor players could still have fun.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 1:43pm
As for the raised quest payouts and such, it is of no help whatsoever to those of us who have more or less completed everything... We have just lost 97.5 % of our income (going on the number stated further up on this post) with no way to compensate for it at all. What do we do then? Stop playing for a year to avoid losing our money?
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 1:45pm
Given that things on HI COST money to purchase... there is no getting around money. No one is to say what someone else's goal of playing is, and having everyone have the same goal is completely unrealistic. I enjoy many aspects of the game, but without money I'm unable to partake in the things I play for.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 1:46pm
Q to a moderator: Is it at all possible to have a different interest on Pinto vs. less crowded servers, eg. like Black?
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 1:47pm
If you have completed all the quests, maybe after said economy change was finished, they could work on MAKING more quests!Maybe they could increase the benefits of winning shows, so you could get main income from that. Or they could make new solutions to that problem for the older players.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 1:51pm
If people don't find enjoyment in ANYTHING besides making money, then they are not taking advantage of the benefits of the game. I am also a pretty ancient player. I've been playing since 2010. You would still be able to pellet horses and all that. It's just that it would be easier to get money, especially if the interest was boosted a lot.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 1:51pm
Increased show winnings would be welcome... but on Palo we never get full SJ rounds anymore. My 123k exp. Dole has been stalled for months. So unless the server population grew I don't think it would be a very reliable way to earn proper money unfortunately. But this also ties in with Pinto affecting the other servers. I wonder what the solution is to that.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 1:53pm
My main source of enjoyment is whispering, that is looking for specific horses. My second passion is pelleting and training the ones I already have. But since I can't recoup even a fraction of that anymore I have no way to do any of it. And that is why I am disappointed. I don't think I am squabbling, I certainly don't mean to. But I can't not be affected this hard, and not speak up.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 1:54pm
If we took in more players, you could have more full rounds! Maybe we can get some pinto players who are willing to make a change to eventually move. Palo is my old server and eventually if the economy changes and servers start going a again, I will for sure be going back.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 1:56pm
I understand your discontent. My idea would be great for pelleting and great for whispering. You would be able to jump and quest, and do thing to earn money.Then go back and keep whispering and pelleting.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 2:00pm
I think, in theory, whatever the interest cap is it CAN work if prices are adjusted accordingly. 1b is really only a bigger scale than 1m or 100m, right? So interest goes down, and prices go down in a percentage that matches. Right now there is a discord between what we can make, and what we have to spend.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 2:03pm
I said that earlier. the idea I first had would still work (as I said!) if we just made the interest super high so earning wasn't so painful. and so that frankly...we didn't waste our lives.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 2:05pm
If the prices go down, like they are going to with this new update, we will go into a brand new cycle all over again. And be right back where we started?
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 2:10pm
It has some merit, depending on how much prices could be adjusted. Given that interest was lowered by 97.5 % it'd have to be quite a bit.

How do you reckon this would affect horse prices though, that is a sale between two players? Effectively these changes lower the value of horses and I feel the market has been thrown up in the air a little. If a horse would sell for 400m in the past, what would and should it go for now to correspond with those 400m adjusted for virtually no interest? What would a 1b or a 10b horse cost, and so on and so forth. Prices will be forced to level out and be quite similar regardless of the quality of the horse, won't they... which depending on exp. and UTs might not be entirely fair.

I don't have an answer to the above, but I do think this is one of those scenarios (now in effect) where someone is going to come out on the losing side to some extent, unfortunately.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 2:13pm
Agreed. But, if everyone had a set low max amount of money, those pricing issues would quickly settle out. Players would decide of things and like I keep saying, the game could be more about all players having equal fun instead of the players who spend all day on the website getting all of the benefits. I've been here at horse isle long enough to be flustered with the way things are. I don't think keeping on this same path is ever going to work. Making horse isle like real life is not a good idea in genral, seeing as this is not a full time job.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 2:14pm
A question to Pinto/other server players,

how is the horse market today? Are people willing to buy and sell right now? And by buy and sell I mean horses of significant value, with either high exp. or high UTs, or both. My guess is they are not willing to.

I worry this has created a stalemate where say a player with 20b worth of pellets is holding onto them now knowing they will otherwise be lost with no chance to recoup, whilst a player with 1b or less has no real way to ever get to 20b now. Thus cementing the divide?

I am very wary to spend one billion now, for instance, so none of the new or old money sinks will be used by me until I see how everything plays out.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 2:19pm
People are not buying much, and when they do, horses are being put in auctions and sold for extremely cheap.
REPLY: (by Leviathan) Jan 25 2016 2:21pm
most of the posts in ads are for players selling horses, but very few are being sold.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 2:23pm
Thanks. No one is advertising anything whatsoever on Palo either. Cheap horses will likely always sell, but I worry about the more specifically targeted market.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 2:26pm
A whole bunch of 97uted horses with 2k+ exp are being sold for little like hotcakes. But subs and exp training are still ridiculously high.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 2:27pm
I guess people are wanting rid before the market crashes, hoping to make a little extra to buffer the interest loss. Reminds me of a stock market crash..
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 2:28pm
I pretty fed up with horse isle being treated like a stock market hahah
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 2:33pm
It mirrors real life whether we want it to or not, I think. But there are always going to be price fluctuations as long as there is supply and demand (and we do need player transactions to avoid the servers stalling). A horse is only ever worth what someone is willing to pay. So now that no one is willing to pay all bets are off as far as the economy goes.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 2:37pm
Do you have any ideas on what we should be doing to better horse isle?
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 2:49pm
I have posted a few tiny suggestions as alternatives to this massive change in the economy... unfortunately now buried nicely somewhere in the midst of the threads on the subject. I am sorry I missed out on the thread asking for suggestions prior to the update.

With that said, for the most part I like and have liked the way the game is set up. I don't know that micromanaging the players' personal economies is the way to go after letting us do it ourselves (most of us successfully) for so long.

I wonder if with these changes we/they are attempting to exercise a degree of control over the economy that simply put cannot be done. You can reboot the system so to speak, but it will evolve again. Life finds a way, to paraphrase popular culture.

I remember in the years before, when I bought a 99.70% horse for what was then the astronomical sum of 4m. In the years since, earning became easier and so prices rose to compensate for it. Those 4m probably equated to 4b before the interest change, but they were at the time just as hard to get to.

So with that long and winding non-answer... I don't think reducing interest is the solution to the economy quandary.

We would be better off putting a cap on pellets in the inventory eg. from 50 of each to 25 or 10 of each, thus forcing us to use pellets regularly or max. our banks but not hindering gameplay for estabished players.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 2:51pm
Putting a cap on pellets in the inventory as opposed to the interest, would ensure horses could not viably be sold for absolutely astronomical sums whilst still enabling us to USE the money sinks.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 3:03pm
That's a good thought. Still though, even if a few richer people like their game, what might happen is people eventually leave, the game never grows, and we get stuck that way? Someone has to decide, will horse isle be a game where you have to spend several years playing to get anywhere, or will it be a game open to newcomers?
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 3:06pm
People will try to change the economy, but, if a large change does happen with the way the game is built, do you think more players would come in and we would have fuller servers and less complaining on that issue of a changed economy? Would one thing perhaps make up for a sudden lack of freedom?
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 3:08pm
I agree we need new recruits to keep the game alive and vibrant and diverse.

But we need to find a balance that makes it attractive for older players to stay on, whilst encouraging new players at the same time... this change veers too much in favour of the latter, in my opinion. A pellet cap, to be honest it could be as low as two or five of each, would restrict the upper part of the economy without completely stopping us from playing.

Then you could combine a pellet cap (forewarned, to give us a chance to use the excess pellets), with an increase in interest for everyone below a set amount of cash in the bank. Give a little to the new ones, take a little from the old ones, but without completely taking our game away. A happy medium rather than what feels like a punishment.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 3:15pm
Where do you think the interest should stop? 4 maybe 5 billion? Would older players be satistied if the interest range was way larger than before? That would be a perfect happy medium for what I was saying, new players could easily catch up, older players wouldn't lose their money, and once most players were at a certain amount they could stop earning interest. That's an interesting idea. If the interest was rapid for low income players that would be very satistifing for both new and old players.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 3:18pm
I don't think interest should stop or drop. I think the divide in the economy is from the possibility to hoard pellets (theoretically a player can hold 100b in pellets and 9.9b in the bank as well as the onhand money), and not from players being good savers.

So a pellet cap that forces us to spend before buying new ones would be a happy compromise. You could still sell valuable horses for a few billion but you couldn't simply hoard money without limit.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 3:19pm
The problem with taking interest away is that we cannot recoup. Without the possibility to recoup there is no market.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 3:21pm
*** If you meant where do I think the INCREASED interest for new players should stop, that I don't know. Once you have a billion or two in the bank it increases rapidly.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 3:22pm
And when I say rapid, I mean more than the old interest. It would have to be even higher than ever before to make a real difference. And what would really help with the new players is a large amount of money to start. To make things fair, current players who have a low amount of money would also have to recieve that same boost to hinder payers fron just making another account just to get the money.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 3:25pm
We have different ideas, each of them is good in their own way. I hope other players who want to share opinions or support others in theres will start posting themselves.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 3:25pm
I am happy with new players getting a "rapid" interest whilst we keep our old rate and get a pellet cap. That is an acceptable alternative to me.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 3:30pm
I think, if a change has to occur, that one would be possible to adjust to. There would be a significantly shorter way up for the new players, but it wouldn't ruin the market for good horses.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 3:35pm
Yes! And if you spend a lot of money, there would be a simple and easy way of return.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 3:40pm
Precisely, but you would HAVE to spend in order to earn more once you hit the bank max., and it would be impossible to accumulate unattainable riches.
REPLY: (by Liopleurodon) Jan 25 2016 3:41pm
Totally agree with this! It keeps everyone happy as well as helps the new players get off to a good start. The pellet cap is also a good idea.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 3:43pm
Unfortunately I made many terrible mistakes during this little crash.....now even though I have played for forever I 've been left broke. It will take me awhile to gain back. It was my own fault that I was foolish.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 3:47pm
I think a lot of players were very happy about the colour and height pellets, and spent before they realised the extent of the update.

I am very happy a few of you think the pellet cap, combined with the old interest for us and better interest for new players, is a good idea. I think it would make it palatable for just about everyone?

Not being able to hoard pellets shouldn't be a bad thing, as we very rarely NEED to spend 10+ billion in one go. Simply holding a handful would leave money for a nice horse, and the old interest would mean we had to use the pellets if we wanted to earn more interest.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 3:51pm
I'm happy as well. If, in addition to that, if people think that raising compitition prizes, quest money, and pawneer priceswould be a good idea, I think that would be great as well.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 3:56pm
I am all for raising rewards in addition to the aforementioned pellet cap and revised interest rates.

I also think adding more awards would be something to think about? For instance add awards for bigger amounts of horses captured and pawned. This would give some of us old timers new goals to work towards if we wanted to.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 4:14pm
That would be interesting. Or maybe awards for getting into the eventing scoreboards. As well as maybe for how many horses traded (sold) or maybe collection awards for certain uncommon items or for collecting large abounts of the same breed of horse.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 4:19pm
More awards all around, definitely.

For instance I have "Horse Captures (57,916)" and "Sold Horse To Pawneers (58,711)". Perhaps the time has come to add awards for 75k of either as well as 100k? Almost unattainable, but still. An award for 25k and 50k of each would be nice too, but unless it awarded the award after the fact it'd be no good for some of us.

These would merely be neat additions if we rectified the more pressing interest issue first!
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 4:33pm
I think any poor player should get the extreme interest, not just new players. If someone spends money they then will have no interest to gain it back. I would be horribly upset if this was just for new players. Say someone logs on only to keep their account alive, has no money in the bank, and suddenly their interest is gone. There should be an extreme interest for any poor player.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 4:33pm
Thanks for starting the debate in the first place, Duvel.

I do think, with a pellet cap, it will only be effective if you have the old interest for old players. The money sinks are no good if we don't recoup, as we won't use them!

My personal vote would be for the following combined:
- reinstating the old interest for old players
- adding a RAISED interest for new players
- adding a significant pellet cap
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 4:34pm
Trotalot, excellent point. Instead of raised interest for young accounts, make it a raised interest rate for players under a certain amount of money in the bank.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 4:37pm
I think the 5 pellet cap and the 5B interest change are good ideas.
I think that along with having that super fast interest, players should start with 1m instead of 1ook we deal in millions and often billions now, and the time gaining from 100k would be useless.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 4:39pm
Trotalot,

so raised interest rates under 5b? Then the old rate on anything from 5b to 9.9b? And finally a cap of holding 5 pellets (of each?).
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 4:43pm
I agree with Starbuck's above three changes. Just as long as the raised interest rate is RAISED. That was one of my mayjor pet peeves!
Starbuck, what would be your vote for numbers? Like how many pellets and when you stop gaining as much interest?
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 4:44pm
Sorry, posted before I saw your reply. Yes, I agree with that.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 4:53pm
Duvel, I think players are gaining too LITTLE these days. People stay on for hours and hours just to get a bil. If we stop the raised interest at 5b that will leave players who only spend an hour or so every day with a decent amount of cash. Those who wish to continue to work hard can and reach the limit if they wish. Then players who can't play as much can still buy subs and decent horses without wasting so much time if that is not an option for them.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 5:03pm
Trotalot, for the pellet cap, whilst some might think it controversial, I think being able to hold a maximum amount of ten IN TOTAL would be reasonable. Because let's face it, some horses due to their exp. and UTs are worth billions. My 123k 100% UTed Dole, for example, and horses of that calibre, wouldn't be possible to sell at all otherwise.

However I don't know if coding a "10 pellets total" would be doable. So maybe, given that we now have 4 different pellets worth 1b, we should only be able to hold 3 of each. That's 12b in total, less if you consider the loss in profit when you resell. And if you were holding all 12, you could no longer collect interest as obviously you had nowhere to put it anymore.

Considering that the existing limit is 200(!) billion in pellets if you hold 50 of each of the 4, plus bank money... I'd say the pellet cap would be the single change that would get the economy back on track. Pellets are where the BIG money lie, not interest.
REPLY: (by Elusive) Jan 25 2016 5:22pm
Pellet caps... YES. Never thought of that before but I think that would work SO well.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 25 2016 6:06pm
Yes starbuck, yes yes yes!
REPLY: (by ReignDown) Jan 25 2016 6:07pm
Pellet caps would be a good idea, I agree that the old interest should be reinstated.
REPLY: (by Luminous) Jan 25 2016 7:14pm
I agree with all of the replies about pellet caps, and I think the interest should be reinstated to how it was before.
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 7:29pm
Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could have a pellet cap instead of the interest debacle, as a happy and fair medium.

***I'd suggest we let the current situation go on for a couple of weeks, during which players are given a CLEAR notice in-game to spend their pellets within a set date.

On that date, the old interest is restored and the pellet cap is implemented, and any excess pellets are removed from the inventory at this point. This will give active players a fair chance not to lose their money.

After which the game goes on; with the old interest rate and pellet cap in place, hindering future astronomical divides in the economy.

A raised interest rate functioning below a certain amount in the bank, would help new players further.***
REPLY: (by JimneyCricket) Jan 25 2016 8:55pm
I just wanted to point out for some of the players that perhaps haven't reached 100% qp, that players like myself that have no more quests to complete rely on interest to generate money. Even if the rewards for completing quests are raised, it doesn't affect many of us older players.

I do however have to agree that the pellet cap idea that has been suggested seems like a viable option that would actually work, provided it can be coded.
REPLY: (by Animosity) Jan 26 2016 1:32am
I agree with the pellet cap idea. Pintos Economy has been thrown so high that by doing what has happened you have doomed a lot of players to lose out on a lot of money. Ive personally had to spend well over 30b on at least 3 to 4 of my horses without putting a single pellet into them and now with no one wanting to spend any money, if I had decided to sell, I wouldn't even make a 10th of what I paid. That is what it took to get a horse you wanted. Paying high amounts. If you wanted the horse badly enough you would work to get it, most players are pretty nice and will wait until you had the money. Yes it is a high price, but even with an econ change and money decrease, there will always be horses that seem out of reach do to the high desire that someone wants it and will pay anything to get it. Like I stated above though, with the pellets, that would have brought the economy down tons just because everyone had the option to go that route but in the long run, even spending billions on a horse that already exists to certain specifications is more desired than gambling on trying to get one with pellets that arent a 100% win.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 26 2016 4:57am
JimmenyCricket,
As well as high quest money, I also suggested high competion earnings and things such as the pawneer raising rates to make up for the older players. So they can earn money for whispering and jumping (that 's often all they do anyway).
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 26 2016 5:00am
We still have to consider new players everyone! Which is why a raised interest under an amount should be included, like starbuck said. Read toother up in the page for more disscussion on that.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 26 2016 5:10am
Starbuck/Catelyn here.

I want to illustrate the major drawback of the current interest "fix", vs. the proposed pellet cap.

I currently hold some 30 billion in pellets. I have 9.9b in the bank. I have about 700m on hand.

With the interest cap, I am now losing roughly 50 million a day simply from leasing horses and whispering.

Given my savings, I can afford to keep playing for a while, but any purchases is going to make a dent that means I will be able to afford playing actively for shorter.

The interest cap hasn't REMOVED money from the equation, it has merely "locked" it due to making people wary to spend AT ALL.

However.

With a PELLET CAP you would 1. REMOVE BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS from the economy in one fell swoop. Furthermore you would prevent such savings to ever accumulate again. No one would have the possibility to be richer than the max. bank and max. pellet amount, and those who were that rich wouldn't be able to keep earning interest since the bank maxes out.

I see little to no drawbacks with a pellet cap, whilst the current interest cap effectively hinders gameplay for us oldies.

Joe, I am ever so grateful for the fantastic game you have created in the first place and for the time and effort you still put into it. It shows you love it, and we do too. That is why we hope to be heard. We are willing to compromise and remove money from the economy, and this would be achieved more effectively through a significant pellet cap more than anything else.

Player Catelyn of Palomino server
REPLY: (by Indesii) Jan 26 2016 5:41am
I think the only issue with a pellet cap is will it remove pellets already existing? Or will it wait for the player to go below 5, for example? If I had sold subs and POs to earn my pellets, just for them to be taken away, I'd be furious. However if it doesn't get put into action until current hoarders reduce their numbers, then I would think this is a perfect solution!
REPLY: (by Indesii) Jan 26 2016 5:42am
By current hoarders, I mean their limit won't get put into place until they spend them all. Though equally, this could cause a stagnant economy too...

Either way, I want the old interest back. My cama is dying to be pelleted on Cremello. *laughing out loud!*
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 26 2016 5:46am
It would remove already existing pellets above the cap limit, on an announced and set date. Active players would have a chance to spend their current lot.

We could have an in-game and log-in screen text telling us to use it within x weeks, or forfeit.

I do realise some might lose a few billion, but those who do will still be the absolute richest on the game afterwards.
REPLY: (by Indesii) Jan 26 2016 5:49am
I don't think that's the fairest way to do things, especially for players who don't regularly check the game, but still rely on their pellets for when they do play/return from hiatus. Plus, all people would do in that situation is replace pellets with 1b tack sets, therefore, taking no money out of the economy. I would rather the interest cap be set at 5b like suggested.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 26 2016 5:54am
But as long as changes have to be made, it is going to be IMPOSSIBLE to please everyone. Those who do not log in withing two weeks or a month, even, quite frankly don't need the pellets that just sit around.

If you have a pelleting project going on you will not be holding 50 or 30 billion.

Furthermore we'd have interest back, meaning money going INTO the economy without it being possible to brim over, meaning people would still be willing to spend and able to recoup.

If a player holds 10 Pegasus pellets and 10 Unicorn pellets right now, and fail to spend them in x weeks time, they would "lose" the billions going above the 3 pellet cap, BUT would still be as rich as you can be.

I think it applies to an absolute majority that 1. do not log on often enough to spend their excess, and 2. holds enough in the first place.

As for the tack situation, fair point, perhaps a 1b tack restriction is in order.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 26 2016 5:55am
*** Make that last sentence read "absolute minority".
REPLY: (by Indesii) Jan 26 2016 5:56am
I don't disagree with a pellet cap by the way- it should have been introduced when the pellets themselves were introduced. I just think there are flaws that need to be worked through if it's put into place now.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 26 2016 6:00am
I agree pellets disappearing from the accounts of inactive players would be a bit unfair, but ultimately a pellet cap (that I agree should have been implemented from the beginning) will be less invasive to the economy than stopping interest and money going into it. And if someone has to take a hit, is it not fairer that it might affect those who very rarely play to those who play every day?

At least with a cap and old interest together, we can still spend and have a hope of saving up again. Everyone could play how they wanted.
REPLY: (by Indesii) Jan 26 2016 6:04am
Ignore the triple post...

I suppose if it was programmed to appear as you log into, for example, pinto dot horseisle directly, it would be easily spotted.

I would say two months would be the absolute minimum amount time to wait to introduce it - since that's when accounts time out anyway (assuming they don't leave their subscription to do the work.) So most people should see it.

Two months might also be long enough to see whether this interest reduction does work. Might be more of a back up plan than anything.
REPLY: (by Indesii) Jan 26 2016 6:05am
I mean, as long as I get my interest back so I can pellet on Palomino and Cremello, I'll be happy. *laughing out loud!*
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 26 2016 6:06am
Yes, a log in message would give everyone notice.

Obviously you would NEED a set date to reduce the amount, or some people might never spend the excess and instead just hoard it forever and we'd never get the max. amount evened out.

I'd like the interest reduction to be temporary, until a pellet cap is implemented (be it two weeks or eight weeks from now). The former isn't sustainable whereas the latter very much is.
REPLY: (by Indesii) Jan 26 2016 6:13am
Well if that's the case, and a log in message can be given and enough time provided for everyone to spend/replace their pellets, then I'll agree this is a lot better than the interest reduction.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 26 2016 6:23am
That possibility is much better than having no interest again. I 'm sure if that happened the word could be spread easily enough to use up pellets before a certain time. Even just by word of mouth, the forums, and yes, a login message. That probably wouldn't be an issue.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 26 2016 6:30am
Yes, I am sure many of the old timers have friends who play, so word would be likely to get around thus giving most if not everyone a very fair chance to spend if they are indeed holding more. :)
REPLY: (by Flames) Jan 26 2016 10:14am
It doesn't really matter to me whether a pellet cap is implemented or not. I'd rather that than the interest we receive now. However, I don't agree with removing the pellets of those above the caps if not spent in x amount of time. That might work for the other servers but for pinto, several players including myself have significant amounts stored in pellets. Why? In case our dream horses were sold and we needed to buy on short notice. This isn't 1-2b we're talking about. High UT'd popular breeds on pinto go for tens of billions. All these pellets would take time to spend rather than "hey, here's a month". I'd rather not have to spend the cash I worked hard to earn on things I don't even want.

As well, another problem with taking away already earned cash is that many of us have worked for a long time to get said cash and even sold subs/POs to be able to earn it. Are you going to be giving refunds to those who earned it through that method as well? Is it fair to them that they spent real money and yet others are deciding for them when they can and cannot use it? Is it fair that people spent hours exp. training and whispering and suddenly can't decide when to use it?

I think a cap could simply be implemented without removal. That is, you can't get anymore until you reach the cap. That wouldn't promote hoarding in any way (since you literally could not get anymore cash) while allowing the rest of us to slowly use up what we have. This way no one would lose anything they worked for.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 26 2016 10:19am
Excellent point flames, I didn't think of that! But are you sure players wouldn't hoard, just to get ahead? Your point is that it would eventually level out without the pressure, but will that really happen?
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 26 2016 10:24am
The benefit to removing excess pellets is that it evens the playfield (which is what sparked this entire debate to begin with, as an interest cap is attempting to do something about it).

If you do not, you have a mass of players who hold tens of pellets at the time of the cap, who can drag those money out for a long, long time, and have a big advantage in the horse market.

Those with little or no pellets when a cap is implemented, has NO way of catching up. Ever.

Surely most if not everyone has a horse or two or three to put the pellets into.

I have acknowledged that some horses sell for tens of billions. I myself have bought a single horse for 35b in the past. You would still be able to buy for 12b + onhand money + 9.9b in the bank if you really wanted to land that dream horse. But I don't think there are THAT many horses around that are that expensive, or if they are they rather do not change hands that often that this would be an issue.

You could also throw in tack and horse trades on top of the money and pellets.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 26 2016 10:35am
Sorry if this comes off as harsh

I think everyone has already expressed enough discontent over the interest issue, and the admins have already adressed it. We have to try what we have now, and if you have opinions, share them. But try what we have currently (although most of us do not have hope for it).
We need to stop complaining. I think they get how unhappy we are.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 26 2016 10:36am
I 'm not saying you can't disscus that, but I think complaining can be avoided.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 26 2016 10:47am
I agree complaining is no good.

I do think a healty and well-reasoned debate can only help iron out which changes are needed at this point. We have already come up with a viable alternative that seems less divisive (eg. a pellet cap) even if details aren't fully agreed upon.

I also wish and hope and think the powers that be can engage in and invite constructive dialogue between players and technical team so we can come to a solution we can live and play with.
REPLY: (by Flames) Jan 26 2016 11:58am
Just to clarify my point, I'm not saying not have the cap. I'm saying sure, have a cap but don't remove pellets of those in existence.

"But are you sure players wouldn't hoard, just to get ahead? Your point is that it would eventually level out without the pressure, but will that really happen?"
Given that there is a cap, how would they hoard anymore than they have? With a cap, there's nothing else for them to put money into. There would be pressure but would come from whether they want to be able to have cash flow. e.g., think of the horse limits we have. Players who are at the limit can't buy more (unless you have barns but that's irrelevant in this case) until they sell it. Same case here with a cap. Do you want to earn money? Well no room until you get rid of what you have first. I mean I guess players could sit on 50 pellets and not do anything ever (no exp. training or whispering or selling subs) but that has no impact on the economy.

"If you do not, you have a mass of players who hold tens of pellets at the time of the cap, who can drag those money out for a long, long time, and have a big advantage in the horse market.

Those with little or no pellets when a cap is implemented, has NO way of catching up. Ever."
I don't agree with "leveling things out" by taking away what's already earned. The point of working for things is so that you get ahead isn't it? It was fair that those players are ahead. Yes, you'll have players holding money for a while waiting for a horse to spend it on but (speaking from a pinto perspective) players spend a ridiculous amount at once to try to get their dream horses so I don't really think there's an issue. e.g., I spent 48b the first day the pellets were implemented. I know several buds who spent 10-15b that first day with many more planning on buying high ut'd horses which don't meet their specifications exactly to pellet. Players need time for these horses to generate or players to sell to sink that cash.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 26 2016 12:02pm
Players may keep those pellets, while everyone else doesn't, and then WHAM once the change has settled in they begin spending again and have an unfair advantage.
REPLY: (by Triin) Jan 26 2016 12:33pm
I apologize in advance for maybe my points have been mentioned, there's just too much to read.

First of all, if your main priority is to get new players to stay, the least of their problems is the economy. If they like the game, they accept it and they stay. If they don't, they leave. What has happened to the interest now is not a fair point at all, in fact the staff seems to have turned their backs to the old, loyal players.

Second of all, Horse Isle will never be massively played, it will always stay between the 4k-7k account limit with maximum 90+ players online in one server (a rare case). The reason is simple: there are better games out there. But it doesn't matter, we keep playing and I plan to for quite some time, simply because I love one thing this game has built itself upon: horses.

I like the idea of interest being removed, but ONLY if it has a huge player base and futher more, a lot of different ways to earn your money. We can test it out for the next weeks, maximum a month.

This is not the first time a game has done something like this. One MMORPG made some drastic changes (similar to this) to the economy, which they kept for 2-3 years. The result of that was empty servers. It's interesting to test, but not to keep.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 26 2016 12:38pm
I think you have really some good points, Flames. I think we come much from the same place.

I guess what I am trying to say, is that with the interest cap they ARE taking away what is already earned (the interest rate we have worked to accumulate and then saved to preserve by not depleting our money reserve).

I don't think taking pellets away that we have saved for is fair, either, but we can recoup pellets IF we have the old interest.

As for saving pellets for dream horses... I have done (and am doing) this. The only reason why I am holding 30b plus the rest is that I want in with a fighting chance IF that grey ISH that I have been looking for for 4 years is generated... I bet a lot are like me. However if no one could hold more than x amount you would have no hoarding. Economy levelled out, bad savers not withstanding, but everyone then has a chance and already rich players remain the richest.

Odds are I will/would be holding those pellets forever with no horse to show for it. If everyone was waiting around for that one horse to generate AND be sold, and not spending anything, well for one no money is going into the economy, cap or no cap. It would take years for everyone to come down to cap level...

I think the line has to be drawn somewhere. If everyone is set to the same max. amount then that is the most a horse can sell for (not including horse and tack trades), so if a horse is generated and put up for sale they will still be able to afford it. You cannot sell a horse for more than it is possible to trade, so the market would have to adjust slightly and follow the cap down a tiny bit.

If no one was able to hold more than x pellets, no one would be able to come in and win all the bidding rounds, so everyone would be in with a fighting chance, but not as long as some are still holding up to 100b in pellets once everyone else has stopped earning interest.

Again, I agree levelling things out doesn't feel fair to us, but if it has to happen this is in my opinion the least (the fairest if you will) of two evils.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 26 2016 12:40pm
BAsically people who already has high amounts saved, will still have enough left to buy their expensive dream horse since said horse cannot be sold for more than that max. amount.

Thus excess pellets can safely be used on other horses, IF a pellet cap happens.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 26 2016 12:46pm
I can't respond anymore, there's a limit on how many times I can repeat things I have already said xD
REPLY: (by Flames) Jan 26 2016 5:35pm
I agree that there may be an issue that some players will hold pellets for a very long time and as you said have an "unfair advantage". However, consider that there will likely be very few. Consider this: A player holds 50 pellets of each kind. Implement a 10 pellet cap of each without taking away the ones earned. Said player holds the pellets. What can they do if they don't spend it? Whisper? Well sure, but any horses would likely have to be given away for free since they can't accept anymore money. Exp. train? Sure. Still can't accept anymore money. My point is that since it's interaction based, you're literally at a standstill until you spend.

My point of bringing in the dream horse example was to illustrate that many of us have a lot of pellets now. Not to say that we need to continue having said amount of pellets to buy our dream horses, which is what it seems to be misconstrued as. It was to say that we have a lot which we EARNED that we don't want to go to waste.

As for the interest cap, they aren't taking away what is earned as none of us had actually earned that interest yet - interest is a time based concept. In comparison, people have spent real money/time earning cash already sitting in the form of pellets. How many players will be impressed if you tell them "hey, you just paid $40 USD for 5b" but now you have to get rid of it within a month or its all gone. Now accumulate that over 8 years worth of spending and what do you have? I don't know about you, but I'd just quit.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 26 2016 7:25pm
Of course we can't earn the interest before it accumulates, but we have worked our way to the point where we have it (the interest rate with bank max.) and rely on it and build our game around it... only to have it taken away.

I think, apart from ironing out the issues with the update, one would have to look at what incentive is left for subscribers with no interest in-game (and I say no interest, because three million a day is NOTHING). The rules have been changed, basically, so what we're getting now is an entirely unknown entity. Is subscribing going to be as attractive now? Surely not, if we cannot play.

I only have seventy days left of my year sub at the time of writing this, and had not imagined I would find myself in this situation where I am actually waiting to resub instead of just going ahead.

I see the standstill issue. I guess the question is how many players would be willing to remain at a standstill and for how long? Even by leaving the excess pellets I think people would be spending almost as fast as they would if they HAD to before a set date.

Say you implement a pellet cap (which I maintain is an excellent idea!), I'll use me as an example, I would personally spend the excess so I could get on with selling my horses. Otherwise I would effectively be sitting without being able to play, for an unforeseeable length of time. You literally could not predict how long you would be unable to play for, but the odds are not in favour of a short-term break in play... There is only one horse I save for, and four years on it still doesn't exist on Palomino. Of course, if a player has an already existing horse they are wanting to pounce on if sold, it takes some of the unknown time aspect away since the horse at least exists.

But I don't know how many players who would be happy to have no horses come or go on their account for months and possibly years on end? Things must indeed be very different on Pinto... I probably am slightly affected by my Palomino view. :)
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 26 2016 7:26pm
But do you know what, not removing pellets would not affect me personally, and as long as a pellet cap is implemented then that would be the important thing! :)

My reasoning behind removing excess ones was to get some of the money (that Joe mentioned as the catalyst for change) out of the equation. And the big money is in the pellets.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 26 2016 7:40pm
As a random musing I do wonder how many players would be happy to spend money freely if they knew some were still holding tens of billions. I'm not sure I'd want to deplete my pellets if I knew others would still be where they were before the change. So maybe a standstill would affect the economy beyond the players who were holding, after all.

Actually as interesting as this thread is what we could use at this point would probably be input from an economist. Whether the current change stays or not we're getting a lot of ripple effects!
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 27 2016 6:58am
Just throwing this out there.

Maybe instead of taking excess pellets away at once or just waiting for them to spend all of the pellets quickly, could it happen like this?

Perhaps every day or every few days you would be required to spend say 3 or 4 pellets that you have stored up. That way, since you might use them that often anyway, you would be able to slowly get rid of the excess without too much pressure.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 27 2016 7:04am
Or instead of a few days, maybe a week for you to spend a small amount. Then those pellets would be removed if you didn't use them. Players who spent more than that amount though....I don't know how that would work.
REPLY: (by Animosity) Jan 27 2016 8:05am
Well one option would be that there could still be a pellet cap and users with more than the pellet cap just can't hold anymore until they get rid of what they have over the cap, just like if your ranch runs out and you have too many horses.
REPLY: (by Animosity) Jan 27 2016 8:05am
Well one option would be that there could still be a pellet cap and users with more than the pellet cap just can't hold anymore until they get rid of what they have over the cap, just like if your ranch runs out and you have too many horses.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 27 2016 8:14am
That was suggested by Flames. You can read the disscussion on that a bit toother up.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 27 2016 8:15am
Catelyn had some good points on that as well toother up.
REPLY: (by Ixion) Jan 27 2016 1:32pm
What if they just made it so you can't keep the pellets in your inventory? Like you had to put it on your horse right as you're purchasing it. Then if people wanted to use commodities to store value, it would have to be stuff like expensive tack/companions, which sells back for a lot less. I'm not sure what would happen to the pellets people already had--maybe they'd have to be given a warning to spend them or something--but just an idea. Thanks for all the updates!
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 27 2016 1:36pm
It's not a bad idea, Ixion, but I'm not sure it takes the trading value of some horses into consideration? I think we have to be able to trade a handful of pellets or the best horses cannot be sold at all anymore (which would be a shame).
REPLY: (by StainGlassMan) Jan 28 2016 6:56am
I only have 1.6 bil, so this will make it so that I can't get like 5 bil for years. This makes it harder to catch up.
REPLY: (by StainGlassMan) Jan 28 2016 7:28am
This idea was supposed to help us out, but this idea will actually make it even harder to catch up to players with 40 bil. And if people ever do even out, it will be years away and most players will have quit by then. Same with the auction thing- the auctions used to be the only way to get cheap, good horses. Now they are inflated.
REPLY: (by Tumble) Jan 28 2016 7:58am
I think that we need to stop being so greedy and start being more grateful. That is all.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 28 2016 8:18am
I don't personally think greed comes into it for those of us who have been disrupted by losing the interest. We have even suggested a pellet cap. We just want to be able to play the game in a fluid way and not have to be forced to either stagnate or go broke.

That said, I think any game needs an aspect of competitive activities in order to flourish. The players have to be able to set goals. No matter what game you play, you want to be able to accomplish something whether it is to level up or find the perfect horse. You need to be able to find a sense of fulfillment through playing. If relaxation is your goal, then money doesn't have to come into it. Personally I play to relax, but what is relaxing for me is whispering and working to better my horses, meaning I rely on in-game money to achieve my goals. That has nothing to do with greed.
REPLY: (by Sunflower) Jan 28 2016 8:30am
Everyone complained about the economy.
I get it, its hard having to lose money you spent on a horse that you spent billions on.
But you are also not the one who complains when you get a great math epic uted horse for cheaaaap.
The goal is NOT to have people back to where they were. They are trying to fix this, so in that case you don't need to spend 25 bill on a horse. You won't need 25b!

So just be conservative with your money if you don't want to lose it.
Its helping the inflation.
REPLY: (by Animosity) Jan 28 2016 8:45am
Inflation exists due to tons of players wanting specific horses. Regardless of how low of interest you have, players who want a horse to the max, will pay whatever it takes to get it which in turn, does not solve any problems. There are players who would rather pay 15b for a horse that is to their specifics than spend 35b in color/height pellets gambling on if they can get it or not without paying more than the seller was asking. I'd personally rather buy an already existing horse than gambling to get one that could turn out exact opposite of what I want. Same with POs, you would rather buy a horse that you were going to PO that already exists than spend tons trying to PO it.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 28 2016 9:17am
I don't know who that was adressed at specifically, Sunflower.

Being conservative with money will now only get me so far seeing as how simply playing how I have always done now means I am losing millions on a daily basis even if I am not buying anything.

Animosity, I agree. I would rather spend a significant amount and KNOW what I am getting for it rather than take a gamble against bad odds.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 28 2016 9:19am
Anyway, simply lowering the interest doesn't fix anything because there are people still holding tens of billions even if they spend less. There's a bigger imbalance than ever now.

A pellet cap is the only way forward that would prevent this.
REPLY: (by StainGlassMan) Jan 28 2016 9:57am
And if I want an sub now, I will go broke buying subs because of lack of interest to buy another one.
REPLY: (by FlashOfHope) Jan 28 2016 10:24am
Kinda curious which party decided to delete what I had to say on the matter. Especially since people were agreeing with me.

Now...why would someone go through the trouble of deleting several posts that mention refusing to continuing to shell out cash, and bringing up paying GAME money to players in exchange for them paying YOU for a sub? I mean, money for you is a good thing. One would think that you would WANT us to keep paying to play.

Unless you are hiding something perhaps?

Stopping cash flow in the game cuts out the players who pay other people for subs. Which there are a LOT of people who buy in game. That is a LOT of cash you lose for that. You get defensive when money is brought up, and delete said comments. You KNEW that taking money from players would cause problems, yet you did it anyway. Its almost as if the whole goal was to make us longtime players angry.

So when is the game shutting down?
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 28 2016 10:34am
Ach now, the game is not shutting down.

Joe has taken the time and effort to go into the base coding and make changes. In the event the creators ever did see the financial need to close down, they would cut and shut without doing anything beforehand, I am quite sure. As would be their right. I am pretty sure we all agreed to terms along those lines upon signing up. Not in a million years do I see adult game owners making changes to alienate players on purpose.

I think the intention behind the changes is lovely even if the execution has a flaw or two, and if we can have a dialogue concerning ironing out the bits that currently do not work as intended I think we all will benefit from it.

The benefit to having us oldies around is that we know the game inside and out and so when we point out what will or will not work in practise chances are we are in fact onto something.

- Cat
REPLY: (by DixieCup) Jan 28 2016 10:47am
StainGlassMan- EXACTLY!!

Joe is going to make less money each month with the interest change, so maybe eventually it will go back to how it was.

ADMINS: please don't delete this, this time. Rather RUDE
REPLY: (by StainGlassMan) Jan 28 2016 10:56am
What I think all of us players do want deleted, is this stupid interest thing that makes it even harder for new players to get rich, and so that players that are not super rich can not afford to buy subs. May 2007 - Jan 2016. R.I.P.
REPLY: (by DixieCup) Jan 28 2016 10:59am
hopefully my card starts working with pay pal, because lately its been hating horseisle.
REPLY: (by FlashOfHope) Jan 28 2016 10:59am
If the longterm goal is NOT to lose every paying player, then what is the big deal about discussing this?

Money is a touchy subject for them, and I for one would love to know why.

WHY is it a problem for us to discuss paying THEM?

That was the whole point of my previous post. I need interest to pay to play. And my post was deleted.

Figured I'd just make a jab back at them to encourage a real response.

Call it me challenging them to a debate.

Discussing the real matter like adults rather than hide and delete posts that hurt their poor little feelings.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 28 2016 11:07am
Why don't you send a constructively worded support enquiry, FOH. :)

I think we have kept the tone reasonably civilised so far, but I understand how making "threats" regarding game funding (however good a point it is) will only create a spreading discontent, and my guess is this is why a few comments are screened. I'm not sure how much, if any, we will gain by doing so here, knowing it will keep getting removed.

- Cat
REPLY: (by Kalunka) Jan 28 2016 3:02pm
I kind of agree with FOH to be honest, my sub ran out and I'm not making enough interest to buy another one == less RL money going into HI. Apparently it's "expensive" to run the servers or whatever, not sure how it's going to be sustainable in this scenario.
REPLY: (by IrishDraught) Jan 28 2016 6:48pm
New players usually get attacked by players anyways. I always give new players at least 100m so they can catch up. If they stay they stay, if they don't then they don't. I will most likely NEVER see that money again but I don't care. This is how we make our money. through the interest. I find it insulting and a total turn off that the interest was changed so dramatically. I don't even want to spend any of my money because i don't know when I'll ever get it back
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 28 2016 7:00pm
^ As above, I think most players, with the old interest in place!, are only too happy to help new recruits out when they start. I have never found otherwise.

Really, the hardest thing is making your first million on your own. Once you figure out that saving equates profit, and see this for yourself in the form of interest, it is only a matter of practising some self-restraint. And that is how most of us have gotten to where we are. Anyone can do this.

If you're given tens or even a few hundred million, you are off to a very good start indeed and will see these benefits even faster.

I think there comes a point where each player does have to take responsibility for making their own way. It might be a learning curve, but most will get there soon enough.

Another point is that achieving something all by yourself is that much more fulfilling, I daresay for the majority. I think that HI, for younger kids, is actually an excellent way for them to start learning about money, saving, and cause and effect. Spending carelessly will have consequences.

So I guess it then comes down to what the lesson here is meant to be. Is the purpose of the game and the changes to teach new players that prospering doesn't require any work on your own part? Is the purpose to teach those of us who have cracked the code, that hard work and planning forward does not pay off so we might as well not bother? The latter, I find, would be incredibly disheartening and detrimental in the long run.

Can we not have a game in which there is room for both the players who are content to earn and spend as they go along, and for those of us who actually enjoy the tactical challenge of disposing our money wisely (as we have done all these years).

- Cat
REPLY: (by Galacticagirl) Jan 28 2016 7:00pm
you are exactly right. at least on pinto every new player gets a horse and at least a couple million right off the bat.. so new players are never ever left in the dark. i was even messaged when i first started without even making a post because someone saw me as a"new" player :) and players with billions didnt even mind to give 100m away because they always made it back in interest..

this shouldn't be about money, it should be about having fun.
REPLY: (by RubyCat) Jan 29 2016 12:58am
The thing I hate most is it doesn't even give me a million a day. It takes several to add up. It's ridiculous. That doesn't give enough money to rent a unicorn or pegasus for 2 hours much less for more time. I'm REALLY not happy. My fun on this game is mostly whispering. You're taking that away from me with this, so I don't even login much anymore. I'd hate to have to quit the game, but that's what it looks like it's headed for me. =(
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 29 2016 5:07am
^ There literally is no way to hope to earn money, or simply break even for most of us who play like we always have.

The ONLY thing that now lets you earn is selling a horse. Which relies on someone being willing to spend a significant amount and as such go broke even faster. I would rather have my fortune be entirely up to me and not other players. Especially since Palomino is so slow.

Besides which, the only horses that reliably sell (or sold in the past... I am doubtful now...) are 99 % UTed ones. On average, I whisper ONE every THOUSAND horse captures. I spend a lot of money to get that 99 % horse in the first place. 50k per CAPTURE, and then the immeasurable 10k misses for a single capture.

In short, I cannot afford to keep my whispering up.
In short, I have no way to earn money.
In short, I am going broke sooner or later.

We need interest in order to play.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 29 2016 5:14am
The last few days I have made what.. 7 million in interest?

I easily burn through twice that in one play session (eg. a handful of hours) simply through whispering and leasing a unicorn and a pegasus. The alternative for me is to stop playing so I don't lose money. And I fail to see how that benefits either party.
REPLY: (by WillowDivine) Jan 29 2016 6:31am
Catelyn, that is exactly what I have come to. I have only logged on twice in the last 3 or 4 days because I have nothing to do now. My main enjoyment from the game was whispering and slowly pelleting one of my horses. I do not have pellets stored nor do I have a maxed bank balance. I am not poor nor am I one of the super rich.

I spend on average 10m+ a whispering spree, yet in 23 hours I make only 1.8m. It would take 10 days of being off or not spending any money to recoup a few hours of whispering money.

Before I'd pellet my project horse once a month, wait, and save interest until I had enough to pellet again the next month. It took a long time with my last pellet pony. But I was ok with that. Now my current pellet project is on hold. There is no way to make the 1b back.

I'd love to try out the new pellets, but won't because I'll have no way of recouping that money back. Mini games and new quests won't do that. Windmills (I have 8 up) don't pay out enough to do that.

For now I do nothing. No more whispering. No more pelleting. I'm stalled in the game. I log in once every 2 days to "check" in but that is about it.

I appreciate the thoughts in trying to even out the economy. I really do. But this is not the solution. Instead, long term players will stop playing the game or spending money altogether. I know I have done both.
REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) Jan 29 2016 6:40am
This change may help Pinto, though I don't see how, but it has effectively ground what little activity there was on other servers to a halt. I want to play with the new stuff they've added. I would pay 5m for that Unipeg 3 times in one day as well as whispering. But now, I don't even like to log in because I lose money each time I do.
REPLY: (by FlashOfHope) Jan 29 2016 7:15am
The only reason I came back to this game, was because I love whispering. Its stress relief for me. I worked hard to get where I am, and now I am being punished for it. Maxed bank account, and I have to be careful what I spend, because it will never build back up.

I won't even hand any new players cash now. Why do I want to hand them 100-200m when I can't build it back up for the next new kid?

I am moving in April and it will be awhile until I will have internet set up, as I have to build my house. I had planned to set money aside to buy a year sub(THAT I CAN"T USE) to keep my account.

If this isn't sorted by the time I have to leave, my account will die. I will NOT pay for I game that I can no longer enjoy.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 29 2016 8:41am
Precisely.

The solution is NOT to stop the money going into the game through interest. We need a steady flow coming IN to be able to play. Call it the life blood of the economy, if you will. Right now the very thing that gives the game life has been stopped.

This situation has been caused by pellets in the first place. Pellets will only work as the sink they were intended for if you cannot hoard them. Therefore, reinstating the old interest and putting into place a pellet cap is the only logical solution. That way there will be no more money going into the game than what people have to spend, but we can still recoup and the economy will be moving as opposed to now.

With a pellet cap, the gap that new players have to work towards closing becomes manageable. Once they hit bank max. they are practically there, since if you hold x pellets you have to spend in order to buy another one.

Problem solved.
REPLY: (by Elanor) Jan 29 2016 8:49am
I think we need to at least give this time to see if it works. People complain and have complained about admin doing nothing about interest for so long now, then when they do something they throw a fit.

The least we can do after they have tried to implement something is give it time and see how it works.
REPLY: (by Dapples) Jan 29 2016 9:15am
I really like the update, but I was hoping it would mean more people would return to Brown server. Unfortunately, a lot of people's accounts timed out. :( Aw man.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 29 2016 10:15am
Many of us, me included, can already tell this is never going to work. Mainly because we're now unable to play. I don't think the goal was to stop us from playing...
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 29 2016 10:16am
As for "people" complaining about the interest that was before the update, I never did. I can't see why anyone would have. The interest was never the problem, the hoarding of pellets was. I am not "throwing a fit", either. Seeing as how I have been loyal to this game for nine years I think I have a right to speak up.
REPLY: (by IrishDraught) Jan 29 2016 11:36am
I miss how horse isle used to be. Now its turning into something that I don't enjoy anymore
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 29 2016 11:43am
Catelyn, you make very good points. You do have a right to speak up and have an opinion.
My question for everyone :


WHY is everyone so upset at losing money every day? That was intended by Joe, if I read what he wrote correctly (please set me straight if I did not). If we let the money go, and stop hording and feeling like we can't spend, why don't we help the change along by spending, and in the process help lower the inflation? We need to stop fighting the change. Things will settle down, but only if we stop getting irratated. Prices will come down, and you won 't need as much. Please everyone, stop being selfish and look at the big picture (:
Joe (and everyone else working to fix this) are smart people and only want what 's best for the game. Let go along with them and stop being selfish about pixelated money when these people are trying to help us.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Jan 29 2016 11:50am
DP pointed out earlier that we have been spoiled, just spending billions and not having to wait long to gain it back. If you spent all your hard work and time to get what you have, you should not be afraid of getting in and working hard to keep what you have. Earning money is not impossible no, it just takes longer.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 29 2016 12:14pm
I think I presented examples of why this isn't sustainable further up. Those of us who have billions, do so BECAUSE we have never "just" been spending them carelessly. Spending money is the easiest thing on this game and interest is no good if you take it right out. Had a pellet cap been put in place when they were first introduced, we would have never even gotten to this point where this discussion is needed, because no one would be holding more than x amount.

I do wonder how those of you who don't mind this, plan to keep playing further long the line when the old players stop putting money into the economy and even quit. You're all fine with being forced to go broke?
REPLY: (by FlashOfHope) Jan 29 2016 12:16pm
No one felt like they couldn't spend until this update.

WHY am I upset? Because I just lost my retirement. I busted my rear to get to 75% and a large bank account so I COULD WHISPER NONSTOP. Because that is my stress relief.

Do you know how much it costs to whisper the whole list ONCE? If I have a full day off and no errands to run, I spend 32 million in a day of whispering. And Not a single horse is worth selling. I don't make money off whispering. I whisper because it makes me feel better after a hard week.

Not only will I no longer be able to afford to whisper, I will no longer be able to afford to subscribe.

And seriously?? Work hard to keep what we have? HOW? How many of us have NO QUESTS LEFT. We started getting the cruddy pay from before this update, and DID work to get where we are.

Depending on the new player, I've always dished out 100-200m, A horse Plus 10m tack, Plus a 50m companion. Because I know how hard it was to get where I am. Palo is a dead server. Giving encourages someone to stay.

Lets pretend for a moment nice horses were easy to find instead of a 1/1000 find. Who do I get to sell to on a dead server? Catelyn and I are very often the only people on. And what if she doesn't want the 99er I just caught? What if I don't want hers? Who is going to buy it? How will we make money?

I started back when the game went live. I built myself up to max, had several top horses, and made it to 100% QP. I bought my subs+ 5-10 other monthlies a month. If I liked a new breed, I bought PO packs and sold them to friends for less than they were worth. I put a lot of real money into that account. Because of some stuff that went down and reporting harassment did nothing, I moved to HI2 with a new name. I restarted here when things got quiet and built myself back up all over again. And someone says that I am spoiled?

I worked hard. Twice to get where I am. And now I am losing the ONLY reason I play here. I believe I have a right to be livid.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 29 2016 12:18pm
As an aside, the top horse market has effectively been ruined. How are we meant to be able to sell the best UTed and EXPed horses in a few months when no one has the billions to put into them?

Forgive me for stating the obvious, but you cannot expect a 90% horse and a 99% horse, or a 1k exp. or a 10k exp horse, to have the same price range. Top players deserve a viable horse market too. Which we're not going to have since no one is going to be able to afford it.
REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) Jan 29 2016 2:18pm
I'm really not trying to whine. I have no problem with having less money. But I have no way to earn. I'm at 100%. I've answered all the riddles. Nobody is ever on Brown to buy horses. I too would give away money, horses, and tack to new players without a care because I could earn it back, but now what? We're literally stuck. I know they're trying to help, but this drop is too much too fast.

On a side note, if the interest won't go back up at all, what about some sort of minigame on Serenity/Tranquility that pays out a lot? Like, by a few million. Giving those of us who've quested a way to earn and continue whispering and adding more reason for new players to quest?
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 29 2016 2:22pm
^ As LucyPennykettle says, not holding as much money isn't a problem; not being able to earn substantial money back, is.

I have lost about 150 million already (eg. when the change hit I was holding around 800m on hand, I now have 650m). since the change *without even having bought anything*. Now multiply that per week, and you see how quickly this is going to crash.
REPLY: (by RubyCat) Jan 29 2016 3:11pm
Why not just take out the ability to re-sell pellets? Then people wouldn't hoard them. You'd only have the money you have on hand and in the bank. Put the interest back to where it was and let people play, please!
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 29 2016 3:27pm
Definitely put the interest back.

Then consider where a pellet cap should be at.

We have 4 different pellets now. That enables a person to hold 4x50b = 200b + plus 9.9b in the bank + 2.2b on hand. To be fair we only had two pellets before the update, meaning the most anyone realistically will be holding is about 112b.

Current pellet limit = 112b. THIS is why there are issues with the economy.

With a pellet cap of max. 5 instead of 50 the most anyone could hold would be 4x5 = 20b + 9.9b + 2.2b = 32b.

With a cap of 3 you'd have no one holding more than 24b.

With a cap of 1 you'd have no one holding more than 16b.

Interest would stop when that cap was met.

16b - 24b should be enough for anyone to still be able to buy their dream horse should it ever be generated or up for sale. You could also throw in horse and tack trades (but bear in mind if a pellet cap is put in place people can still hoard 1b tack which might also need a cap).

I honestly do not see why interest was removed as opposed to a more logical and fair pellet cap being introduced. If you want to prevent inflation, your solution is right here.
REPLY: (by Challenger) Jan 29 2016 3:39pm
Set the interest to the way it is on black, it's not as much, but it's still better than 75k per hour. Some players are happy with the change, others are not. I believe it would be wise to just meet halfway here.
REPLY: (by KailFish) Jan 30 2016 5:23am
I like the pellet cap as an alternative to the interest. There should be a cap on all the expensive items-- including tack. If you can hold set upon set of 1b tack, then that's another way to hold a TON of money.

Get rid of the loopholes.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 30 2016 5:58am
^ The loophole of being able to hold 50 of each pellet is the only reason why the money sinks haven't worked in the first place. Pellets and 1b tack need to be capped.

You cannot blame the players for holding billions in the form of items, as we have all simply been playing within the limits of the game. Adjust those limits downwards instead of stopping money going in.

Do bear in mind top players NEED to be able to hold a few billion in order for the top end of the horse market to be viable. With a cap in place we can still set money aside for our dream horse, BUT we might have to empty our bank along with the pellets to get it. As long as we make interest and can recoup I think that that is an acceptable alternative.
REPLY: (by Kalunka) Jan 31 2016 6:35am
Great suggestions there Catelyn, but it seems like this thread has been abandoned by admins or whoever else is in charge. I feel like all the effort put into trying to fix this issue from the players' side is in vain ha!

Let's be realistic though, not many will take money out of the bank for anything other than make space for more interest - what I'm trying to say is that the 9.9b in there rarely ever gets used. So we can take that out of the equation probably.

With that being said, I think pellet cap of 1x per pellet is kinda pushing it, but 3-5 of each would be more sustainable. Maybe make it so that the new pellets can't be traded? Put a similar cap on 1b tack - after all, you're only going to compete with 1-2 horses at a time so there's no point in having 12 sets of air really.
REPLY: (by Centauri) Jan 31 2016 6:38am
Just saying, it gets really annoying to switch sets of tack. I only have 1 pair of 1bil tack because I'm not super rich, but if I had the money I would put air on all my horses just because I hate switching tack. So a tack cap wouldn't be all that great for some people.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 31 2016 6:47am
A cap only affects items in the inventory though. So tacking horses one at a time wouldn't be a problem. It would just prevent people from using expensive tack as currency (beyond trading a few pieces as most).
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 31 2016 6:50am
To be honest I wouldn't mind having to spend bank money on horses (along with a few pellets) as long as I knew I could make it back through interest and selling horses. It'd be like how it was before the pellets were introduced. Maybe that's me being nostalgic. It'd only mean we'd have to prioritise our dream horse(s) a bit more. But with a 2-3 pellet cap it'd still be a very rare thing having to withdraw, I think.

I have noticed the lack of replies and I personally find it sad. I can only hope it is indeed being read and taken aboard.
REPLY: (by KailFish) Jan 31 2016 11:25am
I wish this topic would just be locked. The admin are going to do what they're going to do. They're trying to fix the economy and I think it's going pretty successfully. Let them do what they're going to do and revisit in a couple weeks when things have actually had time to take effect.

Everyone is jumping. Everyone is whispering. The auction house is being used more than I have seen in years. People are still training and seeking training, and many horses are continuing to get bids that are up in the billions.

Nothing has really changed all that much and everyone has calmed down from the initial interest shock. There are lots of ways to make money, and I hope that as things continue horses can begin to be sold for realistic amounts the other day.

You know one of AppleBay's 100 UT ID's only cost her 25m back in the day? Those are the days that I would REALLY like to see back.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 31 2016 11:49am
I don't think you can say it is going good when gameplay has been stopped for many of the oldest players.

How great that some people are thriving, but does that mean that as long as you do it is okay that the rest of us aren't?
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 31 2016 11:50am
Well, I wouldn't. 25m in those days EQUALS to 25b today, probably. Or something like that. What kind of a horse market would this leave room for? You cannot expect everything to cost the same regardless of UTs and EXP.
REPLY: (by KailFish) Jan 31 2016 12:14pm
I don't think gameplay has been stopped for many older players. I would easily say the majority of us are doing just fine.

Look at what things in the game make you. Bank interest, questing, pawneer. Those things should be making enough to work the horse market. It SHOULD, realistically, take a long time to earn millions upon millions. Trash horses should be going for a couple k, tops, not millions. Top horses should be going for 3-4 billion, tops. Not all the way up to 40b.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 31 2016 12:28pm
Interest = nothing. I earn what, 3m a day? I spend 14m, if not more!, simply through playing.

Questing = I'm done questing. I have a handful left eg. some carrot runs.

Pawneer = no where NEAR enough to recoup my whispering costs.

I don't know what you put into the term "top horse" but I can assure you I wouldn't be selling my 123k 100 % UTed Dole for 4b. Nor any of my collection horses, in fact. I only sell horses that I whisper. I can no longer afford to whisper. So how do I earn anything? Not only am I not earning, but I am LOSING money every time I play.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 31 2016 12:28pm
The interest change does now accomodate players like me. If you're happy that's great, but I'm not alone.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 31 2016 12:29pm
Read that as "does not". I wish we had an edit button.
REPLY: (by KailFish) Jan 31 2016 12:39pm
You wouldn't sell it that much because you're used to the idea of being able to sell a horse like that for 40b. That needs to change, which is what this change is hopefully succeeding at.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 31 2016 12:43pm
With all due respect I don't think you or anyone else can tell another player what their horses should be worth.

It is my prerogative to price mine as I see fit, and those who don't agree with my prices can buy elsewhere. There is NEVER going to be a one size fits all in the horse market. Rich players deserve to be able to buy good horses, you cannot expect everyone to lower their prices to accomodate everyone on the game. The 40b figure was your example.

Declaring this change is okay just because you yourself isn't affected by it is one thing. We are others who are affected and massively so.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 31 2016 12:45pm
And you haven't addressed how you think I should EARN money.
REPLY: (by KailFish) Jan 31 2016 12:47pm
I wasn't telling you what your horse is worth. The point I am trying to make is that we DESPERATELY need to go back to the economy that was in place at the beginning of the game. NOBODY should be holding 100b in pellets, have a full bank, and multiple sets of 1b tack like so many people do.

Earn money by continuing to sell horses, do training, etc. Again, it would not be so hard to earn the money that we need if we were not working in ridiculous amounts and having to max out banks.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 31 2016 12:51pm
And I have proposed a solution to the problem that takes care of both the interests of players like myself, AND new players.

The answer is a pellet cap and old interest.

I think we need to be realistic for a second about "going back" to the state when the game started up. At that point money was slow to earn, BECAUSE everyone has started with nothing. Now that everyone HAS money, money is "easier" to earn as long as people are willing to spend. Which we need interest for. You cannot compare HI at the beginning with only new players, to HI today with several players going on nine years of playing. The system has evolved.

As for your suggestion about ho I should earn money, again, I cannot afford to whisper horses. I need to whisper to find ones to sell. And I would never spend my precious time training for others.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 31 2016 12:52pm
As an aside to your training suggestion, be aware Palo is quiet. There are no full rounds. How many hours and rounds do you think I would have to do in order to get even 1k on a horse? None of your suggestions are viable for a player like me and I have explained why several times in this thread.
REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) Jan 31 2016 4:36pm
The pellet cap is the most reasonable solution. Interest the way it is simply CANNOT work for all servers. If it's working on Pinto as you seem to believe, hooray. But those of us on other servers are at a halt. Most of us spend all day just whispering. If we have no income we can't do anything and there's no reason for us to keep our subs.
They've tried a solution that looks okay on paper but in practice it just doesn't work very well. But that's how it is with game patches sometimes. You add it in, get feedback, and adjust. I just hope for some response. We're not trying to complain, we're trying to help. This will lose HI many loyal subscribers if not sorted, and I don't want that to happen.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 31 2016 4:41pm
Agreed, LucyP.

If anything, they could have tweaked the interest on Pinto alone (Black has already had a separate interest, so that can be done). By all accounts, Pinto is the cause of all these changes but it is the other servers that are hit the hardest.
REPLY: (by FlashOfHope) Jan 31 2016 5:05pm
Love all the "sell horses or train for others" suggestions. You must be from pinto.

As I stated above, usually it's just Catelyn and myself online. We may not want to buy each other's horses. And 2 exp per competition win...is soooo not getting us labeled as top trainers.

Jumping all day, max I have been able to add on Palo was 300 exp. Most of that, I was ALONE.

You can't suggest things that work on a highly populated server, and expect it to work for a dead server.

And no, I will NOT move. I like the quiet.

You pinto players can keep that interest rate if you like. The rest of us want our money back.
REPLY: (by WildFlight) Jan 31 2016 6:40pm
I'm wanting the interest to come back now two. I still do my best to help out new players but It would help If I had my interest back. I also have a ton of horses I want to pellet :(

Bring back the interest and add a Pellet cap!

-wild Pinto
REPLY: (by Sierra) Feb 1 2016 6:02am
Set up a poll. We could vote for the interest to stay the same, or for the interest to go back to the way it was and have a pellet cap. I'm really tired of having the same amount of money in my bank when I want to buy expensive and better horses. I don't have things to sell, I have wilds, and I get one or two good 90+ UT horses each day, which only gives me between 1-10m depending on the breed. I can't thrive on pinto when I can't exceed 700m. Especially when one month sub sells for 500-700m. I don't want to be completely out of money, but I don't want to play without a ranch.
REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) Feb 1 2016 6:29am
Uhh no poll. You can't really have a poll where if one side wins the other is forced out. It needs to be fixed, and its up to Joe to decide what the best way is. I hope he sees why this doesn't work for many people, and adjusts. Catelyns idea of a pellet cap seems like it will work to me. I'd say the 3 pellet cap is the best. It will bring down the amount of money drastically while still allowing people who can't earn money any way other than interest to play.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Feb 1 2016 10:21am
With a poll you risk losing the "losing side" as they will have no reason (or way) to play. A compromise has to be made here.

I agree fully with LucyPennykettle.
REPLY: (by Areawin) Feb 1 2016 11:35am
[[["spend a couple bill today, gain it back automatically by doing nothing in a few days with interest." not really, we made back 2 bil a month in interest, And we did have to work one way or another to build up that money for max bank in the first place, either spending hours upon hours whispering to catch that one money maker, or hours upon hours exp training for people, or spend real life money selling things which we had to work in the real world to get. (but you can only get these things if other players are making money..) If you wanted that epic 10b horse, well thats 5 months of saving your interest.. thats not exactly just sitting there doing nothing for a few days. Meanwhile if you feel it was too much, cut it in half, Cap the interest made at 5b. Thats not such a bad idea for helping push prices down while still letting us play how we have and want to continue. Thank you]]]

couldn't have worded it better. huge thumbs up, aniya :)
REPLY: (by Areawin) Feb 1 2016 11:40am
[[[REPLY: (by WillowDivine) Jan 29 2016 6:31am
Catelyn, that is exactly what I have come to. I have only logged on twice in the last 3 or 4 days because I have nothing to do now. My main enjoyment from the game was whispering and slowly pelleting one of my horses. I do not have pellets stored nor do I have a maxed bank balance. I am not poor nor am I one of the super rich.

I spend on average 10m+ a whispering spree, yet in 23 hours I make only 1.8m. It would take 10 days of being off or not spending any money to recoup a few hours of whispering money.

Before I'd pellet my project horse once a month, wait, and save interest until I had enough to pellet again the next month. It took a long time with my last pellet pony. But I was ok with that. Now my current pellet project is on hold. There is no way to make the 1b back.

I'd love to try out the new pellets, but won't because I'll have no way of recouping that money back. Mini games and new quests won't do that. Windmills (I have 8 up) don't pay out enough to do that.

For now I do nothing. No more whispering. No more pelleting. I'm stalled in the game. I log in once every 2 days to "check" in but that is about it.

I appreciate the thoughts in trying to even out the economy. I really do. But this is not the solution. Instead, long term players will stop playing the game or spending money altogether. I know I have done both.]]]

agreeing to this, too... i've all but stopped playing due to such a drastic change. part of the reason we whisper so much is to have fun and spend some of our money. such a drastic change may be fun for new players, but as for the ones that have been here, i kind of think we're the best bet on horseisle's total economy. at least real-money investment-wise. you know we're here to stay. to do something so drastic to those that have supported the game through thick and thin... i don't know how to feel about it. at least they're admitting that it might need changing instead of setting it into stone, so that's kind of a relief. definitely agreeing with the cap system.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Feb 1 2016 11:49am
^ Precisely. If changes need to be made, the best thing to do would be to make a change that doesn't affect established players so much, eg. a pellet cap. It doesn't affect the way we play the game, it only 1. ensures we have to spend to save up, and 2. ensures no one can hold above x amount. New players will know no differently when they sign up, and take it as it is, so for them the type of solution doesn't matter. For us established players it does.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Feb 1 2016 4:08pm
Why are players getting upset over not instantly gaining back money? You 've become so used to your cushy lifes, it appears you have forgotten how to work. As you said ages ago Catelyn, HI is probably going to resemble real life whether we want it to or not. We can't just sit around to get money. Work for it. And if you don't like that, there 's no place for you on the game. Horse Isle is centered around hard work.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Feb 1 2016 4:10pm
That goes completely against what I was saying early on, but I 'm adressing the fact that if things don't change we just have to buck up and work harder. Stop complaining!
REPLY: (by Indesii) Feb 1 2016 4:12pm
Trotalot, most of the players commenting here have said they CANNOT work to earn their money back, please read them - FlashOfHope and Catelyn have already stated they're the only ones who regularly play Palomino, so they can't make money from exp training not whispering, nor questing as they are both complete. I am in this situation for Cremello, and many others for their respective servers.

This is the situation for a majority of players. It would work IF they lowered the prices of everything else, but by the time they do, most people won't want to play these servers, or HI at all. I haven't played Palomino or Cremello since interest was reduced. I won't subscribe to either anymore. It has ruined gameplay.
REPLY: (by PaardindeMist) Feb 1 2016 4:13pm
This is why things get hostile, because players who are politely trying to give their opinions and give alternatives are replied to rudely by people who don't feel the same way. If you don't have a suggestion or anything to input to fix the economy, just leave the people who do want to help alone? If this economy doesn't affect you then you shouldn't be worried about those of us who don't like it, so don't stir the pot.
REPLY: (by Indesii) Feb 1 2016 4:13pm
nor whispering*

majority of players in this thread*
REPLY: (by Kalunka) Feb 1 2016 4:26pm
People are still whispering, selling and what not because a) the game has been somewhat active since the hacker drama b) there is still money to be spent. For now, until everything crashes. It's all a last minute make-a-buck thing, even though a lot of you won't admit it.

Inde, I'm not buying another subscription either. I can't afford to with in game money, and I'm not wasting any more real cash on a game where I can no longer enjoy doing the things I log in for.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Feb 1 2016 4:26pm
I suggest you try reading this thread again, Trotalot. I don't know how much clearer I can explain things.

I am trying to suggest a solution that takes care of EVERYONE, new and old, because I care about all the players on this game and not just myself. You sound like you don't mind either way, which I take to mean you play the game in a way that isn't affected much. Well, others play differently to you. There is room for us as well, and I hardly think you are in a position to decide who gets to play or not.

As for you implying I don't know the value of hard work after nine years here, perhaps you should familiarise yourself with my achievements before making further insinuations and assumptions.

Thank you.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Feb 1 2016 6:26pm
I'm glad you're trying to find a solution, but I was also free to state my opinion as well. I agree with most opinions on solutions for the economy. I want the best for you all, and don't think complaining will get you anywhere. I won't post further here if my opinions aren't wanted or needed.
REPLY: (by KailFish) Feb 1 2016 7:10pm
"To fix the economy." They are fixing the economy, by lowering the intrest that earns people billions upon billions of free money which drives prices for everything through the roof.

The changes will work, they need time. A pellet/expensive tack cap would be more than helpful.

Soon, people won't have as much money. Prices will go down. The game won't be as hard to play.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Feb 1 2016 7:23pm
You're perfectly free to state your opinion, Trotalot, but getting personal and saying there is no place for those of us affected by the change is taking it a little far.

If any of those of you who LIKE this change can also come with VIABLE ways for us others to play the game without suffering losses, by all means share them.

So far I haven't seen a viable alternative proposed that works with this interest cap in place. Not everyone plays on a small scale.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Feb 1 2016 7:26pm
KailFish, replace "people won't have as much money" with "people will barely have money".

The game has never been hard to play if you take a second to look at what comes in and what goes out. Income has to be either bigger than spendings, or at the very least be enough to break even. And this is where the interest cap fails because nothing is going IN.
REPLY: (by Elusive) Feb 1 2016 7:33pm
KailFish is right. Everything needs time. Give the changes a chance, give the admins time to figure things out, and be patient. At this point I think this forum has said everything that needs to be said, and the admins are no longer responding to what is being said. Maybe because they are already working on a solution, maybe because they KNOW the changes need time. Some really good solutions have been mentioned, but it's not up to us to implement these changes, it's up to the Joe and Miranda. Sit tight and give it time. An update will come eventually, and I'm sure Joe will tell us everything then (as far as what can or cannot be done, or what will and will not be done). They have been running this game for 9 years, be confident in the fact that they know what they are doing.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Feb 1 2016 7:40pm
It would help if there actually was a dialogue going on so we could know what they were thinking and what the status is. If players and technical team aren't communicating we risk getting a second update that isn't thought through any more than this initial "fix".

I can only hope the thread is being read even if not responded to, and that any possible second change is gauged with us BEFORE being implemented this time around.

What I can say is that time isn't going to magically make this one any more palatable. On the contrary.
REPLY: (by Duce) Feb 1 2016 8:40pm
To anyone saying that we shouldn't be complaining and that we should just "train" or "sell" horses to make money, I've said it before and I'll say it again, what works on Pinto does NOT work on the other, smaller, servers. Even on Dun, training and selling is not a reliable form of income, especially right now. And on the even smaller servers, it's virtually impossible to make any money whatsoever because you can't quest, train, sell, or any of those forms of cash flow. Being able to make money with this sort of interest is completely reliant on there being other players around willing to buy and sell with you, which is not always possible, believe it or not.

We're not complaining that our "coushy" lives have been disrupted, we're complaining that we literally have no way to make an income in this game anymore, and therefore, are questioning the point of even playing.

I've personally not been doing much of anything on the game lately besides for SJ, which seems to be the only thing I can afford to do with my very limited income.

I am 100% in agreement with the idea of going back to the old interest, but implementing a pellet cap instead.

At the very least, some of of compromise is needed.

Pinto might turn out okay with this interest change, but the other servers will suffer, and that's not fair to any of us.
REPLY: (by Trotalot) Feb 2 2016 12:43pm
Should we still be trying to save the old servers?
REPLY: (by Centauri) Feb 2 2016 1:18pm
In a word: yes. In an explanation: It's not fair if you're not affected but are making decisions for other servers. To be playing on Pinto and saying all the other servers don't matter only gives you one perspective. I play on Brown, Dun, and Pinto. So I can only give those perspectives. But 2/3 of the servers I play on aren't doing well.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Feb 2 2016 1:37pm
I am actually amazed some players seem to think that as long as they are sitting comfortably on the side the problems facing others are of no consequence. If you have nothing constructive to say, why say anything at all?

Obviously the servers cannot be merged; if they could I would have proposed merging the ones outside Pinto into one or two.

However I massively enjoy the peace and quiet servers such as Palomino bring. Pinto and its activity level holds no interest to me. I play to escape the stress of life and not to socialise. And the quiet hasn't really been a problem with the old interest in place.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Feb 2 2016 1:41pm
As for "saving the old servers", as far as I know they are all except Pinto hosted on the same machine so there is no reason why any of them are under immediate threat or need to close down as long as there are a handful of active and paying players. There is no need for all the negativity.
REPLY: (by Elusive) Feb 2 2016 2:20pm
I think it is rather obvious at this point that the forum has said just about everything, and there is no use repeating yourself numerous time to get your point across. I get it, I do, but you're not going to get your answer here, and it seems that the admins are waiting it out. That is their decision. We are not in charge. If you are insistent for answers now, email the admins or pm DesertPaint when she is online. Whenever I have questions I talk to her directly and get the answers I need. And I am not sitting comfortably. I play Bay and all I do is whisper, however no one is forcing me to spend my money. I understand the urgent need for the return of the old interest, but what if it doesn't change? We need to learn to deal with it. Many of you think this change revolves around Pinto, but it doesn't. Every single one of the servers is extremely inflated. The point of the drop in interest is to fix that. No one should be holding onto 50b+ anymore. They're trying to take the "normal economy" we took for granted and return it to what it once was. That means lowering horse, subs and po prices. Remember when players used to pay $1/10k a server? And now everyone is buying $5 subs and selling them for 1b. Tell me how that evens out? We have taken enough advantage of the inflation. Buying pellets is not suppose to be a commonality, it's suppose to be a luxury item. I understand the dilemma with dead servers, but there is nothing we can do about that. In all honesty, their solution to that is just advertising. I bet if they stuck a Horse Isle 1 ad in some equine magazine things would get better. But they don't, and we can only recruit so much from other servers. I promise you they aren't ignoring this matter. Every one of us is affected by this change. Just give it time. The pellet cap is a great solution. We will just have to see what happens. Wait until the next update.
REPLY: (by KayLaGale) Feb 4 2016 11:50am
I've played this game for a long time. I lost my account 2x and this is actually my 3rd one.

But everyone sounds so condescending. You give new players money and horses so they can catch up? Wow.

You hoard money to get a $10b horse or more? That's a ridiculous price.

Also, as as a new player now, starting from scratch, half the fun is building up. Need money? Do what we used to do back when--sell necklaces or gems.

And finally, you do not really need a uni or a pegi. It is easier yes but it is not necessary. And if only a couple of people are on your server you should have plenty of time to get there before anyone else.

This to me is a relaxing game. If I can get good horses, I do. If I can't, that's fine. At one time that's how most used to play. I really don't know what happened.

One more thing, if you want to see how a broken, unfiltered economy is ruining a game, check out HI2. Subs and all else for an outrageous sum.

I know this isn't a popular opinion but it's mine. Everyone just needs to go back to having fun.
REPLY: (by KayLaGale) Feb 4 2016 11:52am
One more thing to add. I don't race anymore. The reason is that people have all these high UT horses so I can't win since I am not a billionaire and can't afford it. So why would I enter your race if I have no chance? I am sure other newbie's feel the same.
REPLY: (by Sierra) Feb 4 2016 12:01pm
Just a little comment here.
I was on earlier this morning, and I logged in just now, and had over 1,000,000 in interest. Perhaps they took everyone's voice into consideration, or it may be a glitch. Not sure, but interest is back to normal on pinto.
REPLY: (by KailFish) Feb 4 2016 12:56pm
The interest is NOT back to normal on Pinto. My last bank visit was multiple days ago. I have nearly 4b in the bank and only 1,275,000 in interest for multiple days.

If they were making a change like that, they would definitely announce it and it would require a server reset which would have everyone talking.
REPLY: (by Sierra) Feb 4 2016 1:04pm
I know all my buds witnessed a higher interest rate than normal. Considering the 75k interest rate for people with more than 250m, and the fact that I was offline for 7 hours and gained about 1.3m, it seems that there's been a change in the interest rate. More than likely a glitch though.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Feb 4 2016 1:58pm
I am trying to work out what UTs have to do with "races", KayLaGale.

I don't think any one of us should say how other players ought to play and enjoy their game. If you enjoy being competitive, go for it. If not, let it be. I don't think us competitive players should be denied that aspect of the game because someone doesn't want to play.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Feb 4 2016 2:03pm
No change to interest. 75k an hour, gone in ten seconds of playing.
REPLY: (by MysteriousDude) Feb 4 2016 6:51pm
I think if the Interest rate stays like this the pellets and tack, and comps. need to be lowered soon im not saying lowered A LOT but im saying to 600m-800m due to the new height and color pellets people are spending their billions, and for me i still buy Pawneer orders regardless so i think this would be a good idea?
REPLY: (by KailFish) Feb 5 2016 5:55am
Everyone keeps forgetting that not everyone is supposed to be able to have super expensive pellets, companions, and tack. They were introduced as money sinks and as LUXURY items. Not something that everyone in the game should be able to achieve with ease.

The prices on them don't need to be lowered whatsoever.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Feb 5 2016 11:41am
If interest stays the same, they do need to be lowered considerably.

However in my opinion the pellet cap remains the only true solution to all these issues.
REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) Feb 5 2016 12:10pm
Agreed. Pellet cap and old or even half interest would create a much better balance.

As mentioned above, not much more can be said, so now we just wait to see what Joe will do.
REPLY: (by Sparklie) Feb 5 2016 8:13pm
I have no idea what the 300 or so messages above me say, I just want to comment on the original topic xD

I think that the interest cap should be raised to the first 1 billion. I'm a player on pinto who joined a year ago, and I have about 300 mil and that is no where near close to many of the players. In order to really get into the business of buying/selling horses now, you really need at least 1 bil to buy any horses with over 97 UTs, which is pretty much what 90 percent of players are looking for these days.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Feb 11 2016 2:42pm
Any news on progress here, admin?

Economy is at a standstill (I play Palomino). I have sold all of one horse since this was implemented, as no one is willing to part with money any more. Gameplay is still completely paralysed. Something needs to give.
REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) Feb 11 2016 4:15pm
Yes, we're still very invested in any news regarding this matter. Brown is at a standstill as well.
REPLY: (by KailFish) Feb 11 2016 6:06pm
I'm still all for the new interest, and all for having a pellet cap implemented. People need to start asking less for their horses and be realistic about what things are really worth. Start doing that and the game will no longer be paralised. That's what the admin want.
REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) Feb 11 2016 7:47pm
Kali, I'm glad the new interest works for you on Pinto. But please, please, realize that the new interest make almost every other server unusable. If it works there, fine, but there's several people who are drastically affected by this change and cannot continue to play if it remains as it is.
REPLY: (by Imperius) Feb 12 2016 1:25am
I hate this new system. I'm a long time player originally from Palomino server and have started on Pinto about 2 weeks ago. I don't think you realise how much harder it was to get started. Under 250m is still making next to no interest, everyone is selling horses but no-one is buying! Even subscriptions aren't being sold! It seems totally ludicrous to me, as a new player to a server who sold a sub to get started, spent the entire 2 weeks questing, I have less than 1b in the bank, there is not a single way for me to make money. You are beyond naive if you think the money you make from questing is enough to get you off the ground and rise to the level of the average player because I can assure you it's not!
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Feb 12 2016 5:31am
KailFish, you need to appreciate and understand that some of us play the game differently from you, and have done so for years. I don't think trying to fit and force all of us into a new mold is going to work. Those of you who want to play differently, are already free to do so, and have always been free to do so. There should be room for all of us. As it is, the interest change is driving many of us away because our gameplay is crippled. I don't think that was the intention. Defending this change will NOT help the game nor the old players.
REPLY: (by FlashOfHope) Feb 14 2016 5:45pm
I would even be ok if they put in the pellet cap, and just raised the interest up to 4.5-5b mark.

Its been almost a month since I pulled cash from my bank. I've made 29m in almost a month. I paid 500m for just 1 month sub. That is a 471m loss. Not including costs of whispering. I can not play like this.
REPLY: (by NichiMe) Feb 15 2016 1:32pm
If the updates were based on the idea of trying to bring back the old HI back to life, that's definitely not possible. Especially with all of the new additions like 1.2b tack, 505m companions, those new beans, and the pellet resell rate lowered to 90%. The most common way for rich players to make money is interest and pellets aside from training horses, and they took that away from them. Now even the poorer players can barely make anything because the rich players don't want to spend their money. That's simply how rich people are - we don't want to use our money unless we can guarantee we'll keep making more (simple nature of humans, which is something the staff are trying to change with these updates that simply won't change.) We can't won't go back to the cheaper economy, and it seems like the updates are also evolved around the idea of socialism..? I just spent 700m on a new ranch and a sub which I'll never get back anytime soon, just like Flash, because no one is buying or doing anything other than jumping basically.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Feb 15 2016 1:55pm
^ All of the above.

Lowering the resell rate for pellets has made trading more difficult as well.

As an example: If I want to buy a 100 % UTed max. height horse, it WILL be sold for several billion. As long as horses are different (breed/colour/height/gender/UTs) prices will NEVER fit into just one range. And that is that. So how am I to pay for this horse? Pellets is the only solution. However if the seller and I agree on the sum of 5b, it either means that a) I have to trade 5 pellets + 500m to make up for the resell loss, or b) the seller has to accept a resell loss of 500m and an actual sale price of 4.5b.

Players like me have taken a MASSIVE hit with this update. The new players are probably happy until they realise they can't make money past 250m. But what about the rest of us?
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Feb 15 2016 1:57pm
And with the added magic residue tag, pellets have lost a lot of their value to me. I don't want to put that tag on my horses that I have had for four years, so what am I supposed to do with the pellets? I don't want to sell them at a loss, I don't want to spend them and make my horses look less attractive. I just have nothing that draws me into playing anymore.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Interest
REPLY: (by DixieCup) Jan 23 2016 10:12am
This is really annoying, I am on server Cremello and I want the OLD interest back! Its the ONLY way we can make actual money! You made $975,000 in interest since your last visit. very disappointing to see
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: I'm confused..
REPLY: (by DixieCup) Jan 25 2016 12:25pm
I am confused as to why interest went down, is it because older players are richer than the newer players?(to me that's seems why it went down)

I guess I need clarity on the subject
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 12:29pm
It seemed unclear to me as well.

Regardless of cause it has effectively stopped the economy completely. No one is buying OR selling since they will either be buying with no chance to recoup, OR they will be forced to sell at a big loss.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 25 2016 3:22pm
It's to help balance the economy. For a little while it will be a bit of a mess, but it should level out in a few weeks.

Older players who are maxed with money were getting a huge, amount of interest. New players had no hope of competing with that for a few years. So new players had no hope of having a good horse, good tack, good companion unless they had real money to spend on a sub etc.

Now, new players gain money faster via questing which pays more. Older players have to wait much longer to gain such interest, and won't be spending billions for every little thing necessarily as it won't accrue as quickly.

There are money sinks as well for those who wish to use them.

Interest is accrued (gained) on all money up to and including 250mil. After that whatever is in the bank does not gain any interest. So, yes you may save up into the billions, but it will take a while to get there now.

Thus new players have a chance to buy things from current (older) players. Once things level out a bit anyway. :)
REPLY: (by Starbuck) Jan 25 2016 3:24pm
Thanks, DP. I do think the reasoning is flawed as it relies on older players suddenly being willing to drastically lower their prices and taking losses without recouping. We currently have an interesting discussion on that in the other thread, and I hope some of our ideas could be considered as alternatives.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 25 2016 7:41pm
Joe would like us to give this current setup a really good try. Then re-evaluate. If it's totally not working he is willing to work on it some more.

But he would like it if we at least made a really good valiant effort with it as is currently is. :)

That will also help show him what is working and what isn't working...
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Jan 25 2016 7:48pm
I do very much appreciate the effort put into it, from all of you.

The other longer thread took an evenmore interesting turn and we might have a very viable alternative to the interest, if an alternative proves to be needed. :)
REPLY: (by DixieCup) Jan 26 2016 9:36am
Thank you for further explanation!
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Selling Ranches?
REPLY: (by Jinx) Feb 4 2016 9:14pm
Ok for the past few days Ive been seeing players trying to sell ranches to other players. It's really annoying me because I hate for those players to be scammed. Can we report the people for trying to sell ranches or what. Because with how players are now, they would say stay out of their business and all that. Im just saying. Im trying to help the players from getting billions taken from them.
REPLY: (by KailFish) Feb 5 2016 5:52am
It's not like the people buying are victims. If they think a ranch is worth the buying price, then what does it matter if they spend their money on it? Their money isn't being stolen. They're giving it in a fair trade.
REPLY: (by DixieCup) Feb 5 2016 8:34am
Selling ranches is against the rules, so if you want to report, go ahead and do so.:)
REPLY: (by SwanSong) Feb 5 2016 3:53pm
DixieCup is correct. Ranches are to be bought only directly from the game. Players trying to sell them are breaking the rules by trading on a promise which you can report when you see someone doing this. Do not directly confront the person threatening to report them, just file the report and let the administrators take care of it.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 5 2016 5:52pm
What SwanSong and DixieCup said, and players simply can't sell ranches to others. They don't actually own the ranch the game does. Players can Only purchase a ranch from the game.

Once a sub has expired, the ranch remains for 30 days or so. Once it is available any person can walk into the ranch and buy it.

So lets say a sub has expired 30 days ago and the ranch is available... You pay a player for the ranch but don't have anything so, then you have to pay the game for the ranch so that you own the ranch. Um, nope. Scam there.

It's also against the rules to sell ranch locations, since any player can look for themselves. If you wish to help someone find an available ranch, that's fine. But you may not charge for that. Again, anyone walking into an unowned ranch that is subbed and doesn't already have a ranch can buy it.
REPLY: (by SwanSong) Feb 5 2016 7:17pm
Thanks, DP, for adding all that info.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: What Google may and may not be used for
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 20 2016 12:12pm
I have noticed lately many players telling others to Google help sites.

That is against the rules of the game. Do not send others to off game web sites. Yes you may use Google, you may not tell others to Google a site that would normally get you flagged or incur a violation. You may Google riddle answers as you will receive the answer on Google itself. Not be referred to another site.

You may use Dictionary, as this brings you to the word right there. It doesn't give a list of sites to go to.

We do not have help sites. Other sites are set up by players, frequently the answers are incorrect. Some contain viruses, some run password hacking programs, some have links to inappropriate content or actual inappropriate content on the site.

Advertisements can contain viruses including malware. It's why we do not allow advertisements on Horse Isle.

Advertisements can run password hacking programs. If you don't have a very good Internet Security program you can be vulnerable. We do not allow advertisements on Horse Isle.

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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: How to calculate UT's
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 21 2016 12:31pm
Total UT = add what the horse has together Intel and Pers,) then add what it could have (max possible, check library for that info,) then divide what it has by what it could have.

Note: Take all tack and companions off horse so you get the actual stats for the horse listed in it's stat column.

For example: One of my Nez's:

Horse: Personality = 628 Intelligence = 738. So 628 + 738 = 1366

Breed max possible: Personality = 650 Intelligence = 950. 950 + 650 = 1600

So take 1366 and divide it by 1600 = .85375 thus stats are .85

So formula:
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Horse Has: Intel + Pers = Y
Y/X = Total UT
REPLY: (by Illusion) Feb 21 2016 12:45pm
Don't forget to times by 100.
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Feb 21 2016 2:06pm
Intelligence + Personality x 100 / Breed max

The above will give you the answer as a percentage if you don't want to have to move decimals.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Interest
REPLY: (by Prince) Mar 3 2016 10:01am
I have gotten frustrated that the admins have been removing our posts about the Interest problem. Although some people were going overboard and causing trouble, I feel that the admins are not taking our views into consideration. A lot of oldies like myself have moved over to Pinto from other servers and are restarting. The new interest amount actually makes the problem worse, as now people still are rich and it is impossible for everyone else to catch up. And the auctions buttons make it so that the rich people are now auctioning good horses for high, that used to be the only cheap way to get a good horse. Please consider our opinions.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 3 2016 12:02pm
As far as I know Joe is not planning to change the interest again. So what we have is what we have.

We need to learn to work with the current system.

It's more difficult to maintain billions now, it's easier to earn money for new players, so what the "established" players will need to take into account is the economy is now lower. No more selling things in the billions, it's now millions.

Once this happens, and once new players have earned money, then the economy will balance out in the millions instead of billions.

It's a different way of doing things, it will work. It is going to take a little time for the leveling out to happen.

You make more money from new quests, it's much easier to gain money as a new player. Interest rates are doubled on all money up to and including 500 mil. So work hard, do quests and you will get up there rather quickly. It does however required some hard work if one wishes to gain quickly.

The high auction button will in time become unused as players won't be spending billions on very many things. It takes quite a while to get that amount back up once spent.

Locking this thread as it's not something that will change, so it will end up with players arguing back and forth.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Warping to players when whispering
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 31 2016 1:36pm
Please do not warp directly to players when whispering. This creates an unfair advantage thus is a form of cheating.

If you wish to whisper great! However please do so fairly. Warp to the Isle or town's warp point then go off in search of the horse.

I'm seeing what is starting to become "warping wars" and this is not tolerated.

No having buddies here and there all over the game so you can warp to them faster after whispering. This is an unfair advantage to others who have buddies that are playing the game and don't wish to be a "warp point" or who don't have buddies on at that time.

Lets keep all playing fair and even for all players.

If you wish to whisper when others are on and whispering at the same time that's fine, but don't expect to get the horse. You may or may not.

Try working together, ask if others are whispering, split the whispers into groups. Player 1 takes the first A-F, Player 2 Takes G-P, Player 3 takes Q-Z. That type of thing. Then switch around.

Or, choose isles you will cover, take turns whispering, if a breed is on one of your designated isles go for it. If not, then the person whose designated are it is goes for it.

Work together instead of trying to out do each other and beat each other to a horse. This is beginning to get out of hand.

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REPLY: (by Molyneux) Mar 31 2016 2:30pm
There are about 4 or 5 of us whispering on Pinto right now. We split it into groups as you mentioned above in attempt to find a clog, and after whispering the entire list, there were only 10 horses out. There's another thread about it but there MUST be a whispering glitch or something where horses aren't spawning.
REPLY: (by Ghost) Mar 31 2016 2:37pm
I understand and appreciate the fact time has been taken out for a rule for whispering, but I don't like the fact we can't warp to buddies to get places faster? what if we are helping them find a wild?
I worked hard for my 75% qp to be able to warp to places
REPLY: (by Vulpix) Mar 31 2016 2:40pm
Warping should be a channel that we can mute. People warp to me when I specifically ask them not to. I always report these things but it's really, really annoying.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 31 2016 3:57pm
The idea for warping is to reach an isle faster, not specifically a particular spot on that isle. So warping to a warp point is fine. Warping to player after player after player to reach a wild before someone else who is whispering and has no buddies willing to be a warp point is not fair to others. It gives one an unfair advantage.

I don't think it would be possible to have it where players could turn off the ability of others to warp to them. I don't think that is possible. Plus it still does not block the players willing to be warp points from creating an unfair advantage.

Basically what is happening is an ability is being misused. If it's used properly great. If it's being misused to create an advantage for a player that others can't do, then it's not great.

I think about the only thing that could be done is to remove the ability to warp to players (if possible) and that is not something any of us want. So, please do not misuse the ability to create an advantage to you personally.

Thanks
REPLY: (by Amber) Apr 1 2016 12:11pm
I fully understand when warping to someone on top/after a wild horse, but I have not done that for either of the cases I have vios for.
REPLY: (by Vulpix) Apr 1 2016 12:43pm
Maybe the chat looks of the person warped to should be checked? For example. Say I warp to someone and get reported (by someone else for a separate incident) by a person I never warped to. Say Amber reports me because she sees me warp to Playername. Maybe check Playername's chats to see if they asked me for help? Or if they gave permission to me to warp to them.
REPLY: (by Vulpix) Apr 1 2016 12:44pm
Chat logs*
REPLY: (by Amber) Apr 1 2016 2:14pm
Why not add !warp pegasus reuniter, !warp unicorn reuniter, !warp unipeg reuniter, !warp whisperer, !warp esj !warp wsj?
REPLY: (by Magi) Apr 2 2016 12:02am
So is warping to players for any reason at all now against the rules?
If so what is the point.
REPLY: (by Goldfish) Apr 2 2016 12:23am
I understand that warping to a player to scoop their wild is against the rules - rightfully so - but I see more people lying "they warped to me and took my wild!!" than people actually doing it. The warping issue is a bit over-exaggerated, in my eyes?

But I don't understand why we're not allowed to use consenting players as warp points for a small 'advantage'. Unis and pegs are already HUGE advantages in most aspects of the game - they greatly trivialize questing and whispering. If I warp to a bud to go straight to the whisperer or to ESJ, I am not harming other players without buds with my "huge advantage". I'm sparing myself a few seconds of time. Please don't penalize players having friends in a social game.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 2 2016 12:48pm
If you are chatting with another player, going to sell a horse, whatever...And that player is ok with it you may warp to them.

If you are whispering you may Not warp to specific players whether or not they are ok with it.

Reasons:
1) I have no idea if the person is or isn't ok with it. If they aren't ok with it then it's also harassment.
2) It's a form of cheating and gives you an unfair advantage over those who don't have buddies willing to park somewhere for the sole purpose of being a warp point.
3) We have all ages who play, we insist players be polite and nice and play fairly. This includes with warping.

So if you are whispering, you may only warp to an isle location, which is a regular warp point, not to a specific player.

To add warp points goes into core programming. I don't know if it's something that could be added in but I doubt it and I very much doubt Joe would wish to spend the hours necessary to do that just because some players are misusing an ability.

I can see in the logs whether someone is whispering or not, whether someone is using another as a warp point.

There are several players on more than 1 server who are misusing this ability (warping directly to others to gain an advantage over others who are whispering thus reaching the horse before the other player has a chance.)

I'm also seeing reports filed, and fights beginning to occur, anger among players is surfacing regarding this. So, lets stop it now. I'm not going to let this escalate into warping/whispering wars. This is a peaceful game, not a place to come to and be harassed, upset or feel like you have to fight someone to be able to get a horse.

Even the playing field for all. Whomever captures the horse gets the horse, all have an equal chance at that.

No warping directly to players if you are whispering. Very simple.

Thanks
REPLY: (by Centaur) Apr 2 2016 2:55pm
Okay, so what if you have a bud on that is whispering and they ask you for help to look for the horse cause they have spent ages looking for it and you warp to them to do it? is that also against the rules?
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 2 2016 6:52pm
If you aren't whispering, and you warp to a friend who is doing the whispering that's fine. If you are doing the whispering, that's not ok.
If you are warping to buddies of the friend who is doing the whispering, then that isn't ok either as it's basically the same...The friends can look instead of being warp points.

But, if you are helping a friend that's fine. :)
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 25 2016 1:24pm
Helping buddies is fine, if you are helping a buddy and using buddy chat however please do give that buddies name so I can also bring up that players chat.

If it's obvious you aren't trying to cheat and beat other players to a horse by using a buddy as a warp point, then have fun!
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: PO Foals?
REPLY: (by Amity) May 3 2016 10:16pm
Just a random thought that I don't even know if it's possible but I just thought I'd post it here anyways seeing as when I put it in global it got a lot of positive responses.

anyone feel free to add to this.

The base idea is, foals that you can purchase and they will turn into a base wild horse after a set point has been reached. Foals would only keep the color they were bought in, a chestnut foal would be a chestnut adult horse of a random breed with random stats.

1) It could be time based Days/Hrs

2) It could be experienced based
- Trainer and companion shop located only on Cloud.
- This would give players a reason to quest and it would increase activity/interest in the game.
- Foals would age after reaching a set amount of exp.
- Exp would only show at trainer.
- Exp would be random, much like the exp you get for jumping. (1pt, 2pt, 4pt, 8pt, 12pt) [I think that's right don't laugh if it isn't ;) ]
- Trainer would have all of the same characteristics as the current trainers, set cost(the same or more than the other trainers), time between training sessions (the same or more than other trainers, increased or not with a training pen)
- When traded with another player the foal would lose all experience and have to restart the training process.

Things that would not work with the foals
Foals would not gain exp when equipped as a companion, only at trainer. In this case they are only a showcase item per se.
Foals will have no animation when going from foal to adult.
Horses aged from foals will not age past adult.
There would be no additional pages other than the trainer on Cloud. (exp only appears at the training pen, foal has no stats until final horse is generated.)
The horse would appear as an adult the same way a PO appears.
Foals will still be able to be purchased as they currently are.

When traded with another player the foal would lose all experience and have to restart the training process.
REPLY: (by GoblinKing) May 3 2016 10:58pm
I don't think this will be possible just due to the amount of coding and reprogramming that will have to happen.
REPLY: (by Kokomo) May 4 2016 5:06am
its a good idea but not sure if they can fit it into the game would be a really cool thing to have though its a wonderful idea just not sure if coding can handle that
REPLY: (by Granny) May 4 2016 11:31am
If it was bought a foal, it should stay a foal. If you wanted it to age, that's what Life Cycle is for. Basically the whole point of them having another website for just that *laughing out loud!*.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 4 2016 12:28pm
On HI1 we do not allow horse breeding. We do have foals that can be purchased at Foal Adoption Centers.

HI1 has limited abilities in it's programming, and on occasion the counter has issues. Having a foal age and become an adult horse is not something that is feasible for this game.

To be able to have foals that age, you can play on HI2 Life Cycle server. There players may breed horses, watch the foals grow. Once they reach a specific age they can be trained, then once adult they can be ridden and competed with. :)
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Clarification on the warping/whispering rule
REPLY: (by Magi) May 22 2016 8:04pm
Hi, so basically there's been a lot of discussion in my buddy chat about these warping to help players and stuff rule.
I have asked in global about a certain scenario and was told it was fine, but im going to ask about it here as well.

Say Player 1 and Player 2 are buddies and whispering. P1 is doing a-z and P2 is doing z-a.
P1 asks P2 if they can rewhisper a horse for them as they are having trouble finding it and have been looking for a good while. P2 agrees and rewhispers the breed for P1, then warps to P1 and helps them find the horse. Upon location of the horse, P2 leaves and lets P1 catch the horse.

Is this allowed. Is this vio worthy.
I can see how this can be unfair if, of course other players are around also looking for the horse. But in this scenario say no-one other than P1 is looking for the horse.

If this is badly worded I apologise. Words are hard.

Thanks
REPLY: (by Granny) May 23 2016 9:33am
Myself and a buddy do exactly that, but only as we have a quiet server. She takes A-Z, and I take Z-A. I am hopeless at finding horses sometimes, so she has to re whisper for me, and if I still can't find it, she *poofs* to me, finds it and then *poofs* off.

However if it's a busy server it would seem unfair to others.
REPLY: (by Asteria) May 23 2016 9:20pm
I'd like to know about this too, specifically if you are looking for a horse and someone else is looking too, and then has their buddy poof to help them find the horse even tho someone else is also looking for it :)
REPLY: (by Centaur) May 23 2016 9:49pm
Asteria, I tried explaining what had happened but you had muted me. I asked Deb for a RW before you had showed up but she didn't get to it until she got the horse she was after. At that point you had just showed up. I tried to apologise for having a bud there after you showed up but I was muted straight away. I'm all for fair go on the whispering buzz first in first serve, if you had have shown up earlier I wouldnt have asked for a bud to come help
REPLY: (by Asteria) May 23 2016 9:53pm
We arrived at the same time so I'm wondering how that works. Either way I'm still curious about the rule on it
REPLY: (by Centaur) May 23 2016 10:03pm
"We" as in you and I or you and Deb cause I was there about 5 minutes cause I didn't screenshot and that's why I asked for a RW. I'm sorry for all this though
REPLY: (by Asteria) May 23 2016 10:07pm
When I showed up you were walking down from the sand so it looked as if you and I got there at the same time- hence why I was so mad that all of the sudden someone else showed up to help. I'm sorry too, it just looked bad from my point of view Dx
REPLY: (by Centaur) May 23 2016 10:11pm
"We" as in you and I or you and Deb cause I was there about 5 minutes cause I didn't screenshot and that's why I asked for a RW. I'm sorry for all this though
REPLY: (by Centaur) May 23 2016 10:13pm
I did try explain but then I got angry as well cause I was muted and couldn't explain my side :/
REPLY: (by Asteria) May 23 2016 10:28pm
Well I am sorry, it wasn't fair of me to act on my anger so quickly
REPLY: (by Centaur) May 23 2016 10:32pm
Don't worry about it, it's cleared up now
REPLY: (by Debris) May 24 2016 3:42am
I also tried to PM but was muted, therefore couldn't. I was attempting to get something in fireflower maze whilst Cent asked for a RW and I finally got to whisperer and poofed to help her once I “got a hit” so I knew where to look to help her. Was quite surprised to see you there to be honest. Finding a vio on my account after all this, I was quite annoyed as all I did was attempt to help out a bud aha.

After a few emails back and forth between Connie and I, I'm still unsure as to where this is all stated in the rules/in unipeg uniters. Of course, warping to non-buds is not on, and stationing buds across the isles so you can easily warp to hard-to-reach places is also bad. But simply poofing to a bud in need, helping them look and then poofing out once the horse is found should be a simple yes? You are after all taking the time and effort to help someone, it should not be rewarded with a big, fat vio on your account. It has been partially (yet in a confusing and contradicting way) been explained in forums but many players - me included - do not browse the forums.

I was also wondering, why can chat logs not be checked in this sort of situation? I asked this question in an email but it was casually avoided.

Thanks,
Debris
REPLY: (by Asteria) May 24 2016 11:08am
I didn't have you muted for warping but that's a moot point. But in regards to the rule about it, I don't see why it should be a problem to help a bud when they ask, but it is terribly irritating to have someone else warp when Player A and Player B are both looking for the same horse- which then turns into 2 players against one in my opinion which is frustrating. But I agree chat logs need to be looked through in these cases, to see if it was a misunderstanding or not.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 25 2016 1:22pm
1) I'm going to look further into the chat if possible.
Problem: I have no idea who your buddies are, so if you are helping a buddy and talking only in buddy, please somewhere give that buddies name so I can also bring up that players chat... *laughing out loud!* (My crystal ball broke!) ;)

2) No idea if this will happen (be possible) however I have asked if it's possible to put in a few more warp points in the game so that basically warping to a person isn't needed to get to a horse faster. Such as another warp point on Jungle, Desert, Lava... I'll let you know what answer I receive to the suggestion.

3) I greatly appreciate players efforts to comply with my request to not warp directly to others (use others as a warp point when whispering and getting a hit) as the fighting has improved. Thank you. *Bows* XD

On HI2 it's easy to delete a violation, on HI1 however it's very difficult to do. Miranda has to go searching though the data base for that and it's just a massive block of content. So usually, she only removes 4 pointers. What I normally do in such a situation is make a note on the players account to ignore the point. That said... This only happens IF it's obvious that the violation(s) truly should not have been given...

Please don't try to get out of your violations by fussing when you really did break the game rules... :P (Doesn't work either...) ;)
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Interest Rate
REPLY: (by NichiMe) May 29 2016 1:57pm
Did they change the interest rate back to what it was before, or just make it a little better?
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 29 2016 4:41pm
The interest rate is 0.0006% on all money up to and including $500,000,000. If you have more than that in the bank it will only gain interest on the $500,000,000.

Interest had been 0.0003% on all that was in the bank.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Sumiko's Quests
REPLY: (by Woof) Jul 2 2016 9:12pm
As a long-time HI player with disabilities, I was extremely disappointed to see that Sumiko's quests revolve around her intent to start a "Riding for the Handicapped" program. The work "handicapped" is extremely outdated and saying that someone wants to start a program "for the handicapped" completely removes the individuality of persons with disabilities. Please consider altering these quests to use person-first language such as "a riding program for persons with disabilities" or "a riding program specially created for those who are differently-abled".
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 3 2016 9:52am
Here in California where I live they are still referred to as "handicapped" since in some manner there is a type of disability. Some are labeled as "disabled" programs, however the vast majority is: "Program for the handicapped/disabled person." So in parts of the US it's still used.

The game is old, when it was created and when that quest was written, it was the current term. It's not feasible to go in and change every word that goes out of style.

Just know it's not meant to be insensitive or offensive in any manner. It's a quest on a pixel game. :)
REPLY: (by Ladybug) Jul 4 2016 5:50pm
I'm honestly very disappointed about the response to this post. I don't want to be rude, but I feel like what you said just invalidated Woof's feelings about something that is legitimate and important. Although it may be impractical to change every word "that has gone out of style" in the game, I feel like if a player says "I find this thing in-game to be offensive for a legitimate reason" the response should, at the VERY least be an apology. In saying "Well, this term is still used where I live" it feels like you are also saying "because this is still in use today it is okay and not problematic" and that's not always true.

Woof is not asking you to go back and change every outdated word. They are asking you to change a word that is offensive and harmful to disabled persons.

Although this is just "a quest on a pixel game" it still is perpetuating and condoning the use of a word that is inaccurate, hurtful, and dated. Please don't undermine the power of a word and the misunderstanding and hurt it can cause real persons who deal with a ton of discrimination in our society.

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REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 4 2016 9:00pm
There are always things someone will take offense to.

Not saying that's wrong, and not trying to single out anyone. But always there is something someone doesn't like.

If we changed everything then we wouldn't have the game.

I don't mean to be insensitive at all. I have friends who are disabled, including my Mom. I helped a neighbor for a while with her Handicapped Riding Academy a few years ago and yes that was what it was called.

I realize the current proper term is "Disabled Person" but we don't have the resources to change every term every time it changes in real life.

The coding on HI1 is one solid block wall of text. Quests, etc. are embedded here and there in the game coding. To try and remove all of that would possibly take hours.

Only Joe and Miranda can do that, they are very busy people. If it's something that is very nasty, or terribly inappropriate ok, otherwise please realize that when it was placed into the game it was the correct wording.

The "it's just a pixel game" is only to say that this is a game, it's not reality, it should not be so important to someone that they take it massively seriously. Yes, it's a super fun game, and yes it's important. But not life important. It's a game. It's not reality.

Horse Isle is it's own world. :)
REPLY: (by Desertmorn) Jul 20 2016 12:12pm
I've done some research on the best way to modify this quest. Unfortunately, I've found this to be a difficult issue to resolve.

This game has players beyond just the U.S.region.

In other parts of the world, many people are highly offended by the term "differently abled" and insist the preferred terms are handicapped or disabled,just as there are those who find those very same terms offensive.

I regret that this seems to be a catch-22 situation due to regional preferences and the ongoing evolution of the human language.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Re: Training and Co-Ownership.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 4 2017 12:53pm
While it's not against the rules, please be aware we do not acknowledge co-ownership of a horse.

Whomever has the horse in their account owns the horse. Only 1 person can own a horse.

So, if you "co-own" a horse and the other person sells it, too bad. It belonged to the other person as it was in their account.

For training, this does not apply unless we have no record of a training contract and thus can't prove who the horse originally belonged to.

This is why the rules do state:

Training
1] We do not advise that you willingly give your horse to another player for it to be trained in exchange for money. We cannot return the horse should it be stolen.

That basically applies to co-ownership as well.

We can't block players from doing this thus it's not against the rules, however it's also basically something we do not become involved in. You lose it, you lost it.

So, please be aware if you let a horse out of your account to any other person, you run the risk of not getting the horse back.

We do not however allow players to slander/defame others for any reason. So please be sure to not do that... I understand one might be angry, but please keep it off game. Do not bring anger or derogatory comments/content onto the game.

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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: New 'Horse' idea
REPLY: (by CocoIsLoco) Jan 31 2017 8:04am
we should be able to ride cows. how much fun would that be. they would be wild and we would have to catch them. there would have to be special tack or we could ride them bare back. we have companion cows. so why not be able to ride them. what do yall think
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 31 2017 11:01am
The owners have said we will not be able to ride cows as they aren't horses or horse related.

Horse Isle... Stays horses or horse relatives. :)
REPLY: (by CocoIsLoco) Feb 1 2017 3:58pm
then why are llamas and camels rideable. they arent horses or horse related.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 2 2017 11:15am
They are actually ancient cousins of horses. Albeit a bit far away... *laughing out loud!*
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: FYI No Selling/Buying Horses Off Game For Real Money
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 1 2017 11:25am
You do not legally own Horse Isle horses, they are under copyright and are owned by Durbin Development Inc.

You may not sell what you do not own. You may not buy something another is selling that that person does not own.

PO's are fine, buying or selling something for real money entails the following which are against the rules:

1) Sharing personal information/real life contact information.

2) Selling something that does not belong to you for personal gain.

3) Buying content that does not belong to the seller for that seller's personal gain.

4) Cheating Horse Isle of money for products sold without compensation and permission to the game that owns the product.

What I am referring to here is players selling HI horses on social media/off game site for real money.

Players buying horses with real money on social media/off game site for real money.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Residue "eraser"?
REPLY: (by Paranormality) Jun 15 2017 5:40pm
I've had a lot of people agree with me when I think maybe we should have a residue eraser type thing? Something that maybe is like a factory reset for the horse, sets it back to original for those people who dislike residue.
So for instance, a horse is born as a max height black Salernitano and someone pellets it to bay. I think it would be cool if we could get a pellet that would reset the residue counter to 0 and reset the horse back to black. The coding change wouldn't be large, it would just require a variable to save the horses original color/height.
I think to make it fair you'd have to make it like a 250m or 500m pellet though just to be fair so that people don't go erasing random horses that they're training etc.
Thoughts? Opinions? Changes anyone?
REPLY: (by PaintedDreams) Jun 15 2017 5:47pm
i second this idea!it sounds real interesting to have
REPLY: (by Bliss) Jun 15 2017 5:48pm
I second this idea! I would love to be able to erase some of the residue on my horses.
REPLY: (by Arlo) Jun 15 2017 5:49pm
I don't agree sorry, simply if a player doesn't like residue on a horse; don't buy it or just put up with it.
I don't think having a 'reset' pellet is such a great idea.
I personally haven't heard anyone ask for or talk about a reset pellet what I have heard is a gender pellet; not sure I'm all for that one either but Id rather see that introduced than a reset pellet.
Colour & Height pellets are basically there to change what a player wants and was a money drainer. That horse that has residue was either what someone wanted or something they were aiming to achieve.
Sorry that it probably wasn't what you were looking to hear but I wouldn't like it as a idea for Horse Isle to introduce these pellets.
REPLY: (by Amber) Jun 15 2017 11:48pm
I think resetting a horse back to an original would be great. I know lots of nice horses which were already gorgeous who were pelleted, then the new owner sold them because they realised that they'd 'made a mistake'.
I think it's a nice idea
REPLY: (by Max) Jun 16 2017 12:21am
I don't think they would be able to do this with the horses currently in the game, perhaps to new horses caught but I doubt they would be willing to make that coding change.
An alternative idea I've had for a while now-
What if instead of the counter there would just be a small spot that said "this horse has magical residue"? I know a lot of people hate having a number that keeps track of how many pellets, so this would solve that.
I also think ut pellets should count as residue, but our current system makes that really obnoxious because the counter would get so high. I would be in support of a residue eraser, but I also think that changing how we track residue would be a nice compromise or even just an additional nice change.
I mean the purpose of the residue is to track "unnatural" changes to a horse, I think all pellets should be included, just not tracked by number cause that gets excessive...
Just want to throw this into the mix cause the counters have been bothering my ocd so badly and I'm really bothered by ut pellets not counting as magic residue cause they're literally magic residue and my ocd can't handle the inconsistency please help
REPLY: (by Bliss) Jun 16 2017 5:13am
Yes Max! I agree with everything you've said also. That would also be a good option because the number really irritates me.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 16 2017 12:16pm
The entire point of the reside is so that players know if a horse has been altered in any way. As in a "track record" of what has been done to/with the horse.

Being able to erase that negates the entire point of having it.

A vast number of players asked for a way to know if a horse had been altered from what it was when it was spawned other than normal training. So Jor implemented the residue bit.

He can remove it entirely I presume, but I can't see being able to erase the results as then there is no reason to have it there in the first place.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Re: The Releasing Of Horses
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 28 2017 1:40pm
It is not against the rules to release horses.

However, it is not nice to annoy others either. Releasing a few horses now and then is fine, and totally allowed. Releasing a lot (more than 10) of horses all at once is not ok at all and will result in a permanent ban.

To help with this issue and to prevent being harassed, you can announce the horse breeds you are going to release so those who are whispering and want a wild horse not a released horse know to not whisper that breed for 1 hour. Then immediately release.

If you release off and on all the time, that goes to ruining the fun for others and may earn you violations. In other words if you pretty much keep released horses out there all the time, that is not ok.

Please respect others rights to be able to whisper wild horses if they wish to.

For those whispering, please respect the right of players to release now and then.

Lets all play nicely. Do not harass others. If you feel rules are broken you may file an abuse report. I can see in the logs when and how many horses are released by a player. Let me deal with it.

While releasing horses does not remove any wilds that are out, it does go to the total horse count of horses available for capture.

So, released horses will delay wild horses spawning. Wilds will not spawn until the available horse count drops to 39, then one will spawn to bring it to the 40 count back up. If you release 5 horses, then there are 45 in the game. None will spawn until the count is down to 39. Those 5 horses you released will delete in 1 hour if not captured, but that is still 1 hour.

Bottom line:
I can see in the logs when and how many horses were
released. If a person just releases a few horses now and then it's
not a big deal. Releasing all the time or very frequently is ruining
the fun for others and causes a problem which may result in violations.
Releasing mass quantities of horses is a permanent ban.

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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Re: Lagging - Clarification
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 1 2017 7:38pm
Lag happens. Especially on HI1 as it's an old game. Some people have more "speed" than others. There are a lot of things that can cause lag.

It is not against the rules to have lag. If the lag is bad enough for the player they may choose to log off once in a while "lag dump" that clears out the buffer for a bit. But they don't have to.

One players lag may or may not affect others on the game outside of competitions.

If someone in a comp has lag, then they have lag. They are not required to log off or quit the comp.

If their lag bothers you, there are other locations you can go to.

Generally the only affect from another persons lag is that the scores are slow getting there. They will eventually get there however.

For some players lag is not something that can be solved. For others it can be helped briefly. Depends on many, many things.

Now, if a player is deliberately creating lag with the "sole" purpose of ruining the fun for others, that is against the rules. We do not allow players to ruin the fun for others.

However if it's not deliberate to only ruin the fun for others then fine.

Players do not have to log off or do a lag dump if they do not wish to do so. Please do not harass them.

Thankies
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Bumping this up. :)
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Clamping down on a rule, heads up!
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 30 2017 4:05pm
Due to the misuse of social media - the horrific content on a particular site, I am going to get much more strict regarding mention/talk of social media.

We can't do anything about what happens off game, but we can do something about what happens on game.

NO discussing or mentioning social media when on game please. Violations may be forthcoming if you do.

I've been lenient in the past as well...We all know it's there... So if no actual info was shared and people weren't telling others to go there I overlooked it.

However as the content is having a severely negative effect on some of our players, I'm going to get strict here...

Please do NOT discuss social media.

Thanks
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 31 2017 12:34pm
Doing chat reviews as of today. Ok, so I'm going to be the meanie here... Please follow game rules, especially regarding social media content.
REPLY: (by Asterion) Nov 6 2017 10:00pm
You need to add this to the rule page otherwise many people will not know of this ruling, since I'm sure many new players go straight into the game not into the forums. It's important for new players to know exactly what they can't do, so they know to avoid it. Thanks.
REPLY: (by Misfortune) Nov 7 2017 3:36pm
It's in the rules. twice.

under:

Personal Information
for whatever reason it won't let me paste because it's profane?

Websites
1] Please do NOT discuss other websites on Horse Isle, it is against the rules.
2] The ONLY websites which are acceptable to discuss are reference sites; e.g.: Google, Yahoo, Dictionary, etc.
3] We cannot control the content on other sites so we don't allow them to be shared.
4] Personal information could be on another website. If you share a website with another player then our attempts to keep you safe by limiting the personal information you can give out is severely compromised.
REPLY: (by Asterion) Nov 7 2017 4:06pm
Sorry didn't see that, thanks.
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: PSA: Logging directly onto server:
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 29 2017 6:57pm
If you log directly onto a server instead of doing so though the website, you can end up with a huge problem, in that the master account kind of times out... Then you can't log on at all. (The server account is still there, but you can't access it either when the master is deleting/deleted.)

Please at least once a month log onto the game via the website so the master account refreshes. :)

Miranda can restore the master account as long as the server account is still there, but not after that. The server accounts normally time out a day or two prior to a master account timing out except when you don't log onto the master...
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 20 2018 1:53pm
Bump
REPLY: (by Red) Jan 22 2018 2:47pm
Wish I knew this, I could've saved my account that got deleted DD:
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 23 2018 12:11pm
This is for the master account only.

What is happening is that players skip the main website when logging in and log directly onto the server. So there accounts are still active on the server, but the master account isn't being touched so it eventually times out. After a bit then the server account will auto time out as well even if you are logging into it.

The master account at this point should be there for 183 days after you last logged onto the website, and this seems to be working fine if players don't log onto the game at all.

But, for those who skip the website and go directly to the server... The master account seems to be having a problem. Miranda is trying to track this down but it's difficult.

So to be safe, log in though the main website at least once a month if possible. No later than 2 months. :)
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: HI and Flash and 2020
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 1 2018 1:44pm
There are NO plans to shut down Horse Isle.

Adobe Flash will stop supporting Flash in 2020 so yes there are going to be some problems. Eventually Flash will stop, the game is programmed in Flash so obviously there will be a problem.

The owners are aware of this, they have several options.

Some of those are:
~ Trying to find a work around for Flash and keep the game as is.
~ Possibly re-doing Horse Isle in a different format.
~ Having another game all together.

Now, there are several other options, those are what I thought of off the top of my head. We have 2 years. Plenty of time for the owners to decide and implement whatever they choose to do.

In the mean time Horse Isle is and will be here for as long as players can access the game at all.

At this time it's really premature to get all upset about this. I know the owners are looking into this, again they have several options. So lets sit back, enjoy the game and let the owners worry about it. :)
REPLY: (by Nebulous) Jan 1 2018 10:04pm
How would re-doing Horse Isle work? Would we get to keep all of the stuff we have or would we basically have to start over?

And would another game be horse related or something else?
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 2 2018 12:45pm
I don't know Nebulous. That is something that would have to be worked out, and I don't know if it's feasible to do or not.

I'm not the programmer, I know some things that might be possible, but I'm not at all familiar with Adobe Flash and I'm not up on All of the possibilities. I know some possibilities, as to whether they would be practical to implement or how it would be done, I don't know.

That is up to the owners, and they still have 2 years. :)
REPLY: (by Prongs) Mar 25 2018 11:05am
Although it would stink to lose everything we've worked for, it would be lovely to have only 2-3 servers if even that.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 25 2018 11:58am
As an update...

The owners are working on something. What it is I don't know. Whether it will pan out I don't know. But they are working on something. :)
REPLY: (by Pinestorm) Mar 26 2018 4:55pm
I'd have to hope that any new game would be more like Hi1 than Hi2. The 3d graphics are cool and all on Hi2 sometime I guess - but most of the people on hi1 absolutely hate the filter, economy, and how much the game depends on buying a sub.
REPLY: (by Shockerz) Oct 24 2018 3:53pm
Depending on what the owners do or want to do, if it for some reason falls through, I have a friend that would be able to do the transfer from Flash Player to HTML5. ^.^
REPLY: (by Eleven) Nov 2 2018 9:38pm
Are they looking into keeping hi1 or is hi3 to other option? :)
REPLY: (by Eleven) Nov 2 2018 9:45pm
Sorry. Made a typo, Are they looking into keeping HI1 just how it is, or is HI3 a replacement for us so that when HI1 dies with Flash, we have HI3 to go to? Personally, and I know others would agree with me I'd really like it if HI1 could stay as well as HI3. As Shockers has mentioned, it can be transferred! :)
REPLY: (by Bree) Oct 15 2019 12:25am
Are there any updates on this?
REPLY: (by Fire) Nov 10 2019 10:26am
Updates?
REPLY: (by Rowan) Nov 16 2019 3:55am
Hoping for some updates. It's great that HI3 has been released but I personally would love to keep playing HI1!
REPLY: (by DesertWind) Nov 21 2019 8:55pm
I know something is in the works for an update, I have no idea what.

I also know that HI3 for now is taking priority, and they are still working like crazy on getting content in that game and getting lots of bugs and issues worked out.

Once things settle down a bit hopefully HI1 and HI2 will get an update. :)

I'm also hearing rumors that there are several "things" in the works out there somewhere to continue allowing Flash. So hopefully something will pan out and we will all be able to continue with HI1 and HI2. :)
REPLY: (by Horcrux) Jan 25 2020 11:42am
Hello, some of us were wondering if there were any updates regarding the Flash issue with HI1/HI2. I understand that HI3 has high priority right now due to how much work still needs to be done :) I just wanted to see if there was any word on keeping HI1/HI2 running in the meantime with some updates. Thank you!
REPLY: (by MellyMonster) Jan 26 2020 3:02am
Yes, an update/feedback would be nice!!
REPLY: (by Bot) Feb 14 2020 6:03am
Bump
REPLY: (by Red) Feb 15 2020 11:23pm
Bump.
REPLY: (by Vindictive) Feb 19 2020 2:34am
Bump
REPLY: (by DesertWind) Feb 19 2020 12:50pm
Not at this time. We are still waiting to see who is going to come up with what.
REPLY: (by MadHare) Feb 21 2020 9:43am
I don't know how receptive you all are to new ideas, but I just had this thought...
If HI1 were to be switch to a new format such as HMTL5 or something else (I don't know much about this), what if all the servers were merged into one? I think this would cut down your running costs quite a bit (you have so many functionally empty servers), and allow all players to interact.
Two problems I can think of,
1. Ranches: Everyone's ranch is sold and refunded, and everyone will have to purchase a new ranch (basically reset ranches to avoid overlaps). This might be hectic for the first week or so but I think manageable.
2. Players on multiple servers. I know some longtime players keep their old accounts alive while playing on pinto since it's most active. Not sure about this one. Give us some time to sort stuff and choose which account migrates. Probably will be a few issues with players stockpiling horses and money onto each other, but maybe you could work something out.

I think many of us would be receptive to some losses in terms of money/time it takes to transfer our data, if it meant more longevity for the game and probably a few more active players on one server.

It's just my 2cents. :)
REPLY: (by Savy) Feb 21 2020 11:21am
I really like this idea, the only problem I really see is quests and all. Some people are enjoying starting over and have different percentages on servers. It would cause a rough moment but OVERALL I think this a great idea.
REPLY: (by DesertWind) Feb 21 2020 12:12pm
The format for the game was something Joe looked into, but it's not feasible to do for this game or for HI2 unfortunately.

Even if it were, it would still be a totally different format and nothing would be able to be moved over. So a different game. And HTML doesn't work for this type of game, it would need to be C something anyway.

Thus a download game.

We are still hoping that someone somewhere will come up with a way to keep Flash going.

There is HI3 if you can do downloads.
REPLY: (by MellyMonster) Feb 22 2020 4:27am
I agree with MadHare about the ranch idea. I mean, I've just logged onto Roan Server, and only *3* people there have a ranch..
REPLY: (by StraitPirate) Mar 5 2020 11:19am
Any updates on what's gonna become of HI?
REPLY: (by Catelyn) Mar 12 2020 6:43pm
I do hope a way is found to maintain HI1. I for one am certainly happy to pay and stay subscribed. It's a fantastic game even after all these years.
REPLY: (by DesertWind) Mar 13 2020 12:10pm
At this time, I think the owners are waiting to see what happens. Surely someone will come up with a way to continue Flash games.

Putting a lot of energy and effort into the games though as much as we want them to continue and hope they will indeed continue is not practical.

So for now, Joe is working on HI3 as it's going to stay around. It's a very flexible game and programmed in C#.

There are absolutely NO plans to close HI1 or HI2 down. But at the same time, focusing a lot of time and effort into them isn't something that is a good idea right now.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 7 2020 12:18pm
Bumping.
REPLY: (by Piper) Jun 15 2020 8:44pm
Hey DP, Glad to hear that HI will still be around for a long time to come! I can't wait to see what they have in store for us! *Sits back and relaxes. Now where's my popcorn?*
REPLY: (by Luffy) Sep 9 2020 8:29pm
Do we have any updates now that December will be soon?
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 10 2020 11:52am
I haven't heard anything, sorry.

I guess we will just have to wait and see exactly what happens.

I know the browsers will not support Flash, but that doesn't necessarily mean they will not allow it.

Honestly there are still a Lot of Flash games out there, it's not really logical to just dump all of them... So we are assuming something will be worked out, we just haven't really heard anything definite. Which actually is probably a good thing. Means they are considering it and working on it most likely. *laughing out loud!*
REPLY: (by ChasingWillow) Sep 28 2020 7:39pm
I just have to say that I have seriously loved playing HI1 again! I really hope there's a way to keep it long term! <3
REPLY: (by CharredLatte) Sep 28 2020 7:42pm
I agree with ChasingWillow! HI1 has been such a huge part of a lot of our childhoods and lives still today! I'd be more than happy to support H1 if you guys needed help upgrading things! im sure the members would come together too! :)
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 9 2020 7:24pm
Update:

This is difficult. They keep going back and forth with yes you can use a .swf file and still use Flash to no we are going to completely block it totally, to we will allow it but not support it, to totally blocking it...

Honestly at this point I have no idea. It's wait and see. I'll keep checking, but for now it's really up in the air. There are hundreds of Flash games out there so totally dumping Flash is not really a good thing.

It's also possible as Jor mentioned in his part that we could use an old version of a browser that will still allow Flash.

So be sure you have the Flash .swf file saved on your computer or on a Flash Drive so you can switch it to a new computer if needed. And we will wait and see what happens.

I'll keep updated If I know anything.
REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 12 2020 8:34pm
Another update:

Jor is doing is very best to find a way to keep the games going. He has something in mind he is hoping will work, we will have to see however it if will work with the browser block. So need to still be patient and wait.

If he can find a way he will post it and the steps we will need to take probably around December 1, or there about.
REPLY: (by Luffy) Oct 14 2020 10:47pm
Great to hear!
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VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: HI3? ~probably~ :)
REPLY: (by Jor) Apr 26 2018 2:23pm
**Nothing guaranteed yet**
But we have been looking into HI3.
While much is in the air, here are the important notes:



  • HI1/HI2 will remain fully supported. Even when flash is retired in 2020, we are assuming there will be ways to continue to run the flash player. It is our intention to continue supporting HI1/HI2 for as long as players are enjoying themselves and their horses.

  • HI3 will be 3D. That said, it will have a very similar feel and look to HI2. It should run better, and allow us to pursue some new and interesting game mechanics.

  • HI3 will not be as complex as HI2, at least to start. :) But it will have some completely new aspects and gameplay. We need to keep the features limited for initial release. It will be a completely different game.

    Now, we are excited about this, but not going to start talking about what we are doing, or any hints at this point, because we are still in heavy alpha and huge changes can take place, so no point in talking about it. Other than it is our goal to create a solid, fun, playable game that will continue to support this great community of horse lovers. There is SOOO much work to do that any time spent in communication takes away from building the game, so I will need to focus if there is any chance of completing.

    When it's bolted down more (in a few months,) we'll release more information.

    I do however, need some help from you all. Answers to a few questions would be great:

    1) Is the fact that there is no breeding and that horses do not die important to you? Eternal Horses vs Breeding is a big decision to be made. Please give a short answer of your preference.

    2) Please order in your preference of gameplay mechanic, favorite first:
    Chat, Crafting, RanchBuilding, HorseImprovement, AdventureGathering, WildHorseHunting, Puzzles, NPC/Quests, Competition

    3) Briefly, what is your favorite part of HI1/2?

    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1/2?

    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2?


    Thanks much everyone!!! We'd like a beta by the end of the year, but, no promises.
    • REPLY: (by Tesla) Apr 26 2018 3:13pm
    So excited for this! Thank you for taking the time to keep us informed and to continue making the games that we've loved and enjoyed for over a decade.

    1. I'd prefer that horses are eternal. I think that breeding is an amazing addition with so many cool possibilities, but the downside is that horses will die. I don't really see the point in pouring hour after hour of effort into training when they eventually pass away, although I'm sure the game would still be very enjoyable with that in place.

    2. That's a tough one. If I'm understanding this question correctly, I'd say chat is first because the game is so much more fun with other people. Wild hunting second, then horse improvement, competition, ranch building, puzzles, quests, adventure gathering, and crafting.

    3. Favorite of HI 1 - aside from the nostalgia, I love the whisperer and how competitions work, as well as horses' stats. It's straightforward, clean, and a good way to look at their value. Favorite of HI 2 - the art is stunning. And, even though I'd prefer no breeding if it means death, it's really cool to see the offspring of two of your favorite horses. The color and stat possibilities are incredibly cool.

    3. Least - Pellets in HI 1. I don't mind height/color, but UTs was what made 99s/100s so valuable. When we got the option to change that, the rarity of them went down and messed with the economy. Least of HI 2 - the chat, and the fact that everything is subscription required. I get that funding and support is needed, and I'm personally more than happy to do it! But I like HI 1's approach to this much better. The competitions in HI 2 were also a bit confusing and I didn't like them as much as HI 1's (although I'm sure there's many people that disagree — it's just not my thing).

    5. Again, there's a good nostalgia factor, but I also think it's a more approachable game. I like how whispering, competition, and stats (with the exception of UT pellets) all work. The chat is also a massive reason I quit HI 2 and stayed here.
    REPLY: (by SkyRunner) Apr 26 2018 3:32pm
    1. I like the idea of breeding, but for collections and gameplay, eternal might make more sense. Perhaps 2 servers, one with and one without? Although I understand the coding would be very different. Overall, I'd prefer eternal.

    2. Wild Horse Hunting, NPC/Quest, Horse improvement, chat, crafting, competition, adventure gathering, puzzles, and ranch building.

    3. My favorite part would definitely be whispering on HI1, and on HI2, I really loved all the different color combinations. There are so many variations of the same color unique to horses that would be great to see in the next game.

    4. The res counter on HI1 introduced a really frustrating variable. I'd prefer no pellets at all to pellets if they must be counted. In HI2, I wish there was a whisperer, and I agree with Tesla that I'd prefer the subscription system to be like HI1.

    5. The lack of a whisperer and the difficulty of starting/figuring out HI2 were the major things that kept me on HI1.
    REPLY: (by PjGirl) Apr 26 2018 3:57pm
    1) Is the fact that there is no breeding and that horses do not die important to you? Eternal Horses vs Breeding is a big decision to be made. Please give a short answer of your preference.

    I would prefer eternal horses - that way all the hard work and dedication you put into that horse will stay.

    2) Please order in your preference of gameplay mechanic, favorite first:
    Chat, Crafting, RanchBuilding, HorseImprovement, AdventureGathering, WildHorseHunting, Puzzles, NPC/Quests, Competition

    My order: Chat, wild horse hunting, puzzles, npc/quests, adventure gathering, competition, ranch building, crafting

    3) Briefly, what is your favorite part of HI1/2?

    My favorite part about HI1 is the whisperer - getting to pay to locate a wild and capture it - that is what I mostly do on hi 1
    My favorite part on HI2 is the mini games/puzzles and esroh quests

    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1/2?

    My least favorite part of HI2 is the restrictions of the chat and trading - I LOVE how in hi1 even if you are not subbed you can buy and sell horses, I HATE that in HI2 you basically can't make any money once done the quests unless you are subbed - if you catch a nice horse you can't make money off of it, making the game pointless to me.
    I do not have any complaints about HI1 besides maybe allowing more competition spaces

    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2?

    Same as above - unless you are subbed on HI2 you can barely do anything, making the game not fun for me and pointless for me
    REPLY: (by Callypso) Apr 26 2018 4:02pm
    1) Eternal horses. Although breeding is really cool and it's exciting to see what kind of a foal your going to get, it also makes it hard to put the effort into 1 horse when the end note is it's just going to die, however I definitely loved the concept of it.

    2) Quests/NPC, Wild horse hunting, Chat, Adventure gathering, Puzzles, Ranch Building, Horse Improvement, Competition, Crafting.

    3) Favorite part of HI1 is all the quests you can do.

    4) Least favorite part of HI1 is the restricted chat, the customer base of the game has changed and all of the original players are now adults, the game needs to keep up to date and evolve to incorporate this.

    5) I tried HI/2 but didn't enjoy the layout of the game, it was very confusing, i can't remember if there was a tutorial at the beginning, I just remember always feeling lost.
    REPLY: (by Indesii) Apr 26 2018 4:28pm
    1) Eternal horses! I get somewhat attached and I don't like the idea of investing time into training and such only to have them die.

    2) Chat, Questing, Horse Hunting and Ranches are all the same tier for me, and the rest I don't have any particularly strong feelings towards.

    3) Everything might be a cop out. The isles, the uni and peg, and the simplicity of it. But 100% Simple Jump and the whisperer are what keeps many players active on HI1, aside from the chat.

    4) I agree the restricted chat is my least favourite part of HI1 - people are vio'd and banned for the simplest of things and it just does not match the player base. We are, in majority, adult players who grew up with the game, so that might be worth considering when deciding the target audience of HI3. I know for many, the strict rules and easy vios/bans are why players have quit. Aside from that, I dislike the idea of residue and the lack of admin interaction with the economy. The game economy has its ups and downs just like real life, and where the banks intervene here, it would be great if a new game could reflect these things. (It would prevent the insane evonomy changes HI1 has experienced).

    5) I honestly prefer the graphics and simplicity of the game. It is easy and enjoyable for everyone of all ages. HI2 was just... too much of everything. It was too intricate and not as relaxing/fun to play. Plus, you can't do much on HI2 without a subscription.
    REPLY: (by Lacuna) Apr 26 2018 4:37pm
    Thank you so much for finally bringing HI3 up for discussion, I'm excited to have something to hope for.

    1) Eternal horses. Most of the HI1 fanbase enjoy the aspect of competition and 'top' horses, so funneling hours of exp into a horse seems null and void if the horse will die. Maybe give a possibility of combining a player's two favorite horses or something but make it a one time only thing? Like each horse can only be 'bred' one time and the 'offspring' be immortal as well, to get a horse with combined characteristics to make a better horse?

    2) Competitions, wild horse hunting, and quests are really the only things I do in game, with a heavy EMPHASIS on competitions.

    3) My favorite part of HI1 are the jumping arenas and the whisperer. Questing is tolerable to make the Uni/Pegs available but I'm willing to do those. I don't have a favorite thing about HI2 because I played briefly and hated it. The only positive thing I saw with HI2 were the breeds and their art with the different colorings available.

    4) My least favorite thing about HI1 are the pellets. I would rather have to deal with 'natural' horses that can't be changed than have changing as an option and be stuck with the residue counter. My least favorite things about HI2 were the chat system, the lack of whisperer, and the competitions. The chat system is absolutely ridiculous, especially for a game that is 'PG'. A lot of the words we use are nonsense, I understand the necessity of the filter but a lot of the words you can't say aren't any form of inappropriate.

    5) I basically answered my reasons for disliking HI2 repeatedly throughout the answers for the other questions. The chat system is bogus, the competitions aren't enjoyable, maybe because I'm so set on only doing SJ on HI1, but whatever. I like the idea of being able to see the wilds instead of just wandering over them on HI1. But I also would rather have a subscription system like HI1, to make all players able to buy/sell.

    That being said, if HI3 is more like HI2 than HI1, I will probably not play at all.

    Thank you guys so much for taking our opinions into consideration. Hopefully with all of our input we can contribute to a new game and make it enjoyable for all of us.
    REPLY: (by Tesla) Apr 26 2018 4:57pm
    I love your idea about one-time breeding, Lacuna. It would keep a lot of diversity, as opposed to having an eternal horse being able to have many foals, and players would have to make a difficult decision about what horses to match, since they've only got one shot. I also think that players would be more emotionally invested (we're lame, I know) in the offspring since it's out of one or two of their favorite horses.
    REPLY: (by Supra) Apr 26 2018 5:50pm
    1) I definitely prefer eternal horses. I know when I find I horse I really like, I tend to want to hold onto it. Also, like others have said, people tend to invest lots of time into training horses to high exp.

    2) Chat, Competition, Horse Improvement, Wild Horse Hunting, Adventure Gathering, Puzzles, Ranch Building, Crafting.

    3) My favourite part about HI1 would most likely be the simple jumping, and I guess the overall simplicity of the game. I don't have a favourite part about HI2 as I've never really gotten into it.

    4) My least favourite part about HI1, I'd have to agree with a lot of previous replies, would be the pellets. It seems like everyone and their dog has 100ers now, where they used to be rare.
    My least favourite part about HI2 is how restricting it was without a sub, and how confusing it was. I was never able to get into, where I found HI1 super easy to grasp.

    5) I started playing HI1 basically when it came out. As I said previously, I always found HI2 too confusing. I have tried to play it/get into it a few times, but I'm just not about spending money on a game that I'm not even sure I like yet in order to experience a large majority of its features. Overall, I love HI1, and I'll definitely miss it when its no longer around.
    REPLY: (by Phantom) Apr 26 2018 6:04pm
    1. I mean, I like the fact that horses live forever, but I think it would be interesting to have one server be lifetime horses, or you can pellet a horse to be immortal (but don't make it super difficult to achieve).
    2. Horse improvement, Competitions, Quests, are really the only things I do.
    3. I like the competitions and how the quests are easily doable. I don't mind the questing. The one thing I loved most about HI2 when I played it was the coloring variations of the horses.
    4. My least favorite thing about HI1 is the chat system. Most players are adults and us getting flagged for stupid words is ridiculous. I think there should be no filter, unless they are under 16. HI2 I found was just very difficult to get into because the economy is awful and hard to make money.
    5. I hate the chat system for HI2 and the fact that it was so hard to get anything remotely done. I also want the sub system of HI1. I think it's stupid that you need a subscription to buy and sell when that's such an important feat of the game.
    REPLY: (by Magi) Apr 26 2018 7:24pm
    1) I prefer eternal horses. I do like the concept of breeding and what I have played around with I've enjoyed. But even though it makes sense for them to pass, I still didn't like my horses dying *laughing out loud!*


    2)Chat, NPC/Quests, Competition, WildHorseHunting, HorseImprovement, Puzzles, AdventureGathering Crafting, RanchBuilding,

    3) Questing and the competitions in HI1. For HI2, I love the variety of minigames as well as the different horse colourings.

    4) Don't like having to be subbed to do just about anything in HI2. I also don't like some of the timed quests, especially ones that I need to stay logged in for. Also, the stricter chat on HI2 gets really annoying at times, even though I understand the reasons for it I still wanna complain *laughing out loud!*

    5) I go through stages where I'll only play HI2, but HI1 is my main go to, just because I enjoy the competitions I can do and because all my friends are there.
    REPLY: (by AstroCat) Apr 26 2018 7:27pm
    1) Breeding: I really prefer the LC version of being able to breed your horses... that being said- I love my HI1 horses a lot more since they don't die. I think Breeding them is more fun, since I dont really have time anymore to do competitions. Maybe a mixture? Either like Howr se where you can make a horse immortal, or as simple as an option. When you have a horse you can set it (by a certain age maybe) so that you cannot breed it, and it boosts its competition stats? That way those who want to go for highest exp horse can go for that, while those who like to breed for colors, can do that?

    2) Gameplay: Chat is a big one for me, then the following: Wild Horse Hunting, Horse Improvement, Puzzles, NPC/Quests, Ranch Building, Adventure Gathering, and then competition. (I did enjoy jumping on HI1, hated most competitions on hi2)

    3) Briefly, what is your favorite part of HI1/2? HI1- I love the simplicity and that the horses I could get attached to. Also loved that the filter wasn't so crazy that if you misspelled a word on accident you'd have to scroll through to find the word and figure out the correct spelling. LC- I LOVE breeding for different colors, stats, and personality.

    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1/2? Least favorite part of HI1- the fact that my favorite server is dead.. *laughing out loud!*. Least favorite part of HI2- The chat filter. (I'm not talking about personal info/websites/etc, but people like to come up with nicknames and stuff and it really stinks to have to get it approved first...Especially with naming horses too. )

    5 does not apply to me
    REPLY: (by Cenicienta) Apr 26 2018 11:21pm
    This is exciting! Super pumped to see what y'all come up with!

    1) Is the fact that there is no breeding and that horses do not die important to you? Eternal Horses vs Breeding is a big decision to be made. Please give a short answer of your preference.

    Eternal is my first choice, for sure. I don't like the idea of losing my favorite pixels.

    2) Please order in your preference of gameplay mechanic, favorite first:

    Competition, Chat, WildHorseHunting, RanchBuilding, HorseImprovement, Crafting, AdventureGathering, Puzzles, NPC/Quests

    3) Briefly, what is your favorite part of HI1/2?

    ESJ/exp training is my favorite part of HI1 and the primary reason I play.

    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1/2?

    The excessive amount of quests we now have. It takes forever to achieve anything. I liked it when there weren't as many quests.

    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2?

    HI2 is too complex and difficult to understand. I love the simplicity of HI1. It is easy to understand if you aren't a very big gamer to begin with. I love the competitive nature of exp training. It is therapeutic for me to sit and exp train in my free time.
    REPLY: (by GhostlyHood) Apr 27 2018 12:49am
    Thank you so much for making time for a little update to keep us in the loop despite trying to get HI3 up and running!
    Just a little input from me.

    1. Eternal would be a great idea. As much as we do wish we have the time to consistently play horseisle, many of us do have periods of time where we are just so busy that we tend to miss out on our horseisle time. (i.e. finals period etc). It would be quite sad if we were to come back to our favourite horses having passed on. As someone who plays HI1 and have tried her hand at both ET and LC on HI2, I would really prefer HI1's 'eternal horse' function.

    2. First would definitely be chat. I don't know if I can say this for all the players, but the main reason I keep coming back to this game is because of the buddies I've made on this game. Being able to chat with them and to basically not be limited to talk about almost everything was a big aspect of what actually kept me on this game. HI2 was a big no for me as I was unable to chat freely with my friends and use the slang or even call them nicknames as they were filtered by the chat. Secondly, NPC/Quests. As much as people don't like to quest to be able to get something, this was another way I can spend time with buds, trying to figure out the quests together. The rest would go as follows: Adventure Gathering, Wild Horse Hunting, Competition, Puzzles, Ranch Building, Crafting and Horse Improvement.

    3. My favourite part of HI1 would most probably be the quests and also the simplicity of the overall game play. The fact that it was not too complicated and that most things were pretty straightforward. HI2 was too intense for me in general.

    4. My least favourite part about HI2 would be the fact that there are so many/similar quest items. It constantly seems like its overwhelmed in my inventory and I would always forget what is needed. Another thing would most definitely be the chat. Another thing would also be the way we maneuver on HI2. I would prefer just moving up down left right, instead of being able to move with multiple arrow keys at a time.

    5. The main reason I stayed with HI1 was because of its simplicity. The fact that UTs are so easily calculated and that horses were not based off like a 5-scale thing. HI2 was overall, too overwhelming.

    Hope this reply really helps a lot! Also, am looking forward to HI3, hopefully, we can come to a consensus between both HI1 and HI2 so that we can incorporate everything together for more players to enjoy!
    REPLY: (by Frappe) Apr 27 2018 1:11am
    1.Eternal horses. That I adore and am attached to my pixels is an incontrovertible fact.

    2.Horse Improvement.Competition.Ranch Building.Chat. I have left out the other items in the list because I am indifferent.

    3. My favourite part of HI1 is being able to build a vast stable of high exp pons, and then slowly improve it until I have the best I/anyone can have.

    4. My least favourite thing about HI1 is it's lack of adaptability. The improvement and innovation is stagnant.

    5. Because this is where I started, and I love HI1. It is such a perfect game. Also, the time and effort I put into getting to where I am is not too much to abandon, especially for –in my opinion- an inferior game in HI2.
    REPLY: (by Kangaroo) Apr 27 2018 1:51am
    1) I would like breeding to be incorporated to the game, but maybe a pellet for immortality for the particularly special ones? But the ability to pawn in the case they become unwanted, even if pelleted.

    2) Chat, Wildhorse Hunting, Horse Improvement, Competition, Puzzles, NPC/Quests, Crafting, Ranch Building, Adventure Gathering,

    3) Briefly, what is your favorite part of HI1/2? HI1; is the simplicity/arcade feel of the graphics, and the community at the momentosphere which in my experience is supportive and all inclusive.

    4) HI1; the declining server numbers. & the time between SJ rounds, particularly when the same players are filling every round within seconds. No need to wait so long :)

    5) The graphics, and the fact that it filtered the younger players and the older/"original" players. So there's a lot of reminiscing and generally more mature chatting.
    REPLY: (by Frappe) Apr 27 2018 1:54am
    is too much*
    REPLY: (by Centauri) Apr 27 2018 10:13am
    1) Eternal horses are easier to take care of in my opinion. Every time I get on HI2 I have to get a new horse because one passed because I can't play all the time.

    2) Chat, Crafting, HorseImprovement, Competition, Puzzles, RanchBuilding, WildHorseHunting,, Adventure Gathering, NPC/Quests

    3) H1: Simplicity and design. H2: Puzzle games like the mop game.

    4) H1: Nobody is on anymore. H2: Chat filters

    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2? The chat filtering for HI2 led me away, because it's hard to communicate some of your thoughts. Also lag, but mainly the chat.
    REPLY: (by Sarahrosehorse) Apr 27 2018 1:15pm
    1) I'd prefer eternal, nonbreeding horses.

    2) Chat, Puzzles, WildHorseHunting, HorseImprovement, NPC/Quests, Puzzles, AdventureGathering, Crafting, Competition, RanchBuilding.

    3) HI1 has an older, generally more mature playerbase, which makes for good company.

    4) HI2's chat filters are extremely restrictive.

    5) As mentioned above. Additionally, HI2 is extremely laggy, even on newer desktops.
    REPLY: (by Indesii) Apr 27 2018 1:51pm
    Why are people's comments being deleted? If the admins have asked for feedback it's very concerning and alarming that that feedback is being deleted without any reasoning given.
    REPLY: (by Demogorgon) Apr 27 2018 2:16pm
    1) I get super attached to my horses, so I'd like eternal.

    2) Chat, Puzzles, Competition, HorseImprovement, NPC/Quests, AdventureGathering, WildHorseHunting, RanchBuilding, Crafting

    3) My favorite part of HI1 is the nostalgia/my friends I've made on the game. HI2 is a tie between the horse graphics and all the colors they can be and the puzzles, such as the logic puzzles.

    4) My least favorite part of HI1 is the declining fanbase. HI2 is the stricter chat filter & the way you have to be subbed to basically do anything.

    5) HI2 was too confusing for me to really get into. The chat filter was also incredibly frustrating. The filter on HI1 is so much better.
    REPLY: (by CherryJubilee) Apr 27 2018 2:44pm
    1) I would prefer eternal horses, as I get way too attached and would be heartbroken for them to die. :')

    2) Please order in your preference of game play mechanic, favorite first:
    Chat, Wild Horse Hunting, Competition, and Ranch building are all on level 1 for me. Quests, Puzzles, Quests, Horse Improvement, Adventure Gathering, Crafting,

    3) Favorite part: HI1 - the friends I have made from playing over the years, simplicity, community. HI2- horse art and graphics, the puzzles and quests are great.

    4) Least favorite: HI1- lag, decline in members of course, variety of color on breeds. HI2- very complicated as a beginner, you have to be subbed to do ANYthing, the chat filters are awful.

    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2? I have played both, but prefer HI1 overall.
    REPLY: (by AdoniAM) Apr 27 2018 2:55pm
    1) Breeding isn't too important I like being able to stack experience and improve my horse. Without risking loosing them.

    2) Gameplay mechanic, favorite first: Horse Improvement, Ranch Building, Crafting,Wild Horse Hunting, Chat, Competition, Adventure, Gathering, Puzzles, NPC/Quests.

    3) The friends I have been able to make, the horse graphics, the updates of new breeds and tack.

    4) Most of the player base for this game are now well into their 20's and sometimes the filters are a little too much. Also the 5 exp to 18 exp is a long process and the money aspect is way off scale for horse price vs training etc.

    5) HI2 was glitchy, didnt really care for eternal too much but I liked that you split them up and allowed both options since everyone is different in that aspect. Some aspects of it is just very cluttered and the angle the horse and player are at is just odd.

    Thanks for possible making HI3! Best of luck.
    REPLY: (by AdoniAM) Apr 27 2018 2:58pm
    Didnt really care for Life Cycle, I mean.
    REPLY: (by Jedi) Apr 27 2018 3:10pm
    Glad to hear hi1 will hopefully still be supported.

    1) For a game where a horse gains experience, eternal is much better because if the horses pass away, there’s not much point in experiencing them. However, including breeding, where the foal could age into an adult, then live forever would be a cool edition. Or even just breeding for different coats and they’d automatically be an adult. Just some sort of breeding while also being eternal would give it that extra appeal instead of having one or the other.

    2) My order would be - Competitions, horse improvement, quests, wild horse hunting, ranch building, adventure gathering, Crafting, Puzzles and chat.

    3) Favorite part of the games - Competitions and seeing how much exp I can get on my horses.

    4) my least favorite part of the games - Considering competitions is my favorite part my least favorite is basically how the competitions are on both games, hi1 only esj runs which is fine, but the experience gain is very small and the length it takes for the competitions to start is slow, hi2 on the other hand a few different competitions run fine and the competitions start faster but because of the daily bonus, competitions don’t fill very well making it hard to experience your horses, because the most popular seems to be jockey and reining so if those bonuses barely come around, you’ll never get much exp done. So an improved competition system would be super amazing.

    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2? Basically my answer is the same response for number 4, I play the game to experience my horses and hi1, esj is almost always running and hi2, the competitions don’t run nearly as much which made me uninterested in playing.
    REPLY: (by FlashOfHope) Apr 27 2018 3:16pm
    Judging from the amount of comments being deleted, I assume when it was said "need some help from you" and "answer some questions", what you really meant was "Confirm what we already plan to do, because any different opinions will be deleted so we can continue make sure that those with the same opinions as us beleive their opinions matter."?

    Aunt correct amiright?
    REPLY: (by Pompeii) Apr 27 2018 3:55pm
    1. I prefer it to be eternal horses because while breeding was fun on LC, it took away a lot of time and money only for it to last for a short amount of time.

    2.Chat (because it's always so much fun to make friends), WildHorseHunting, HorseImprovement, Competitions, Quests, AdventureGathering, RanchBuilding, Puzzles, Crafting.

    3. Fave of HI1: the horse art and, whispering and competitions.
    Fave of HI2: horse variety colors and markings, tokens, being able to see wilds without standing on them.

    4. Least fave of HI1: UT pellets
    Least fave of HI2: chat filter (you can hardly day anything or use different type without it having a fit), most horse art, not having Zebras, Unis or Peggy's.

    5. I stayed in HI1 and rarely play 2 because it doesn't lag.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 27 2018 4:10pm
    Nothing has been deleted that I know of as far as replies go. If something is deleted then I will post the reason for it.

    I'm being very lenient as replies/reasons are requested, thus they need to be heard.

    That said, we do have rules, so um...Yeah please remember that when replying. *nods* :)

    If something is missing, please mail the reply to support (you can use the link below) and it can be sent to Joe. Or at least I can tell you what happened.

    We have and always have had an issue on HI1 that periodically some posts just don't show up or auto-delete. It has happened to players, moderators and administrators. It's not picky. *laughing out loud!*

    I'm reading the replies frequently and have not deleted anything.
    REPLY: (by Cerulean) Apr 27 2018 5:24pm
    1) No breeding and eternal horses. I have had some of my HI1 horses for over a decade and I cannot put a price on their sentimental value. The fact that I can form a “bond” with my pixels makes the game all the more enjoyable.

    2) CUSTOMIZATION, chat, horse hunting, horse improvement, ranch building, questing, adventure gathering, competition, puzzles

    3) Chat/socialization and customization. I live for the ability to make my avatar and my horses my own. I also love the feeling that HI2 creates of really riding your horse around and enjoying the scenery.

    4) Although I understand the importance of chat safety, the filter on HI2 is too restrictive. Socialization on HI2 is a chore. Language is constantly evolving, and we need a chat system that allows the language of the game to grow with the terminology people are actually using. Forced spellings also make socialization inaccessible to those who may not be wholly proficient in English. I much prefer HI1’s chat system; I think the chat system should allow for colloquial speech while filtering out inappropriate words.

    5) I play both HI1 and HI2, but I strongly prefer HI1. It mostly comes down to the socialization aspect. HI2 has some excellent features, but there’s no beating how easy it is to use the chat system on HI1. I don’t have to worry about having to retype my sentence five different times because I keep missing a typo, or can’t use a certain contraction or popular colloquial term. At the end of the day HI is a MMORPG; many of us come here for the community it creates, and the ability to interact with others within our community.

    All in all, I am so excited for the potential of HI3! HI has been a part of my life for over a decade, and I can’t wait to see what the future brings!
    REPLY: (by Sublime) Apr 27 2018 5:38pm
    1) I honestly prefer HI1 and Eternal for the non-breeding game playing. I do have an account on lifecycle but I do not find myself playing it because I don't really want to waste my time training a horse that will die.

    2) NPC/Quests, gathering, competition, horse improvement, wild horse hunting, ranch building, chat, crafting, puzzles.

    3) My favorite part of HI1 is definitely whispering and I also enjoy the simplicity of the competitions. HI2 Eternal: The complexity of questing! Dream would be a combination of all three of these - that is for sure!

    4) I think the pellets brought a lot of economic struggle for HI1 and also created an issue devaluing horses. HI2 Life Cycle: I do enjoy the idea of breeding but not so much of the horse dying. It would be nice if we could breed for collection purposes.

    5) I mainly only play HI1 now even though I have accounts on all three servers. The whispering and simple jumping brings me back every time. :)

    So excited for the coming updates!
    REPLY: (by Drizzpone) Apr 27 2018 6:30pm
    1. I like the fact that horses don't die. With competition being such a heavy factor in the game, I like to be able to appreciate the effort I put into making a nice horse. I don't feel as compelled to continue on if I know it's just going to disappear. I dislike the breeding factor - it was fun on hi2 until you finally got a perfect horse. Then what? You could train them up, but then it comes back to the death aspect of not being able to keep your efforts.

    2. Chat, Competition, Wild Horse Hunting, Horse Improvement, NPC/Quests, Puzzles, Ranch Building, Crafting, Gathering

    3. HI1: The social aspect of hi1 is really what keeps me around. It's nice to be able to chat freely, and a lot of my friends are the reason I try harder to complete tasks, whether it be questing or training.
    HI2: I love the amount of customization there is in HI2. The perspective of riding around on your horse is also neat.

    4. HI1: Time between competition rounds
    HI2: The chat filter is so restrictive it's hard to talk to people

    5. I got into HI2 with Life Cycle. I enjoyed playing for a bit, but it was a bit complicated. After I bred a perfect stat horse, I didn't see a reason to play anymore.
    REPLY: (by LivingHope) Apr 27 2018 7:24pm
    1) While the breeding was a great introduction for
    HI2, if I had to choose between the two options I would definitely choose Eternal.

    2) Wild Horse Hunting, Puzzles, Horse Improvement, NPC/Quests, Adventure/Gathering, Crafting, Competition, Ranch Building, Chat

    3) Honestly, whispering and the hunt to find the perfect stat "natural" horse.

    4) The economy and how quickly it deteriorated on all servers and both games.

    5) I mainly only stay on HI1. I prefer the horse art style to the HI2 art. I also am addicted to whispering and capturing high UT natural horses.
    REPLY: (by Mrs) Apr 27 2018 7:53pm
    1) I want horses to live forever, it's discouraging to train a horse that's eventually just going to pass away and leave you at square one.

    2) Competition, Chat, HorseImprovement, Puzzles, WildHorseHunting, Crafting, RanchBuilding, AdventureGathering, NPC/Quests

    3) My favorite part of HI1 is the simplicity and charm of it. It gives you a game with simple things to work towards if you want, or just all sit in ESJ and chat with friends for a decade *laughing out loud!*.

    4) The lack of customization, horses can only be a certain look with no distinct markings within one color (All Black AMs look the same, etc)

    5) I stayed with HI1 for my buds and the ease of the game. It gave me lifelong friends and a place to just relax without having to put too much effort in if I didn't want to.
    REPLY: (by Challenger) Apr 27 2018 8:46pm
    1) I would prefer eternal, don't see much point putting effort into a horse for it to die

    2) Wild Horse Hunting, Chat, Horse Improvment, Competition, NPC/Quests, Ranch Building, Adventure Gathering, Crafting

    3) Briefly, what is your favorite part of HI1/2?
    HI1: Whispering is a big one for me, alongside with the easy competition and chat. Also being able to quest to get a Uni is great as well.
    HI2: Range of colours on horses

    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1/2?
    HI1: Less players online make me very sad
    HI2: Too complicated to get into, no "poofing" to ranches is extremely annoying and the competitions require a lot of practice to be good.

    5) I did try HI2 for a little bit, but the gameplay is really complicated, I prefer the simplicity of HI1, alongside with having the whisperer.
    REPLY: (by Imperfections) Apr 27 2018 8:48pm
    1) I want eternal. I don't like the idea of putting so much effort into something that is just going to die anyway.

    2) Competition, Chat, WildHorseHunting, NPC/Quests, AdventureGathering, RanchBuilding, Puzzles, Crafting, HorseImprovement

    3) My favourite parts of HI1 are the simplicity, simple jumping, and buddy chat. Those of us who have been playing HI1 since it started are still around, and I love the nostalgia of logging in and talking to someone you've "known" for 10 years. Also like whispering!

    4) I never liked HI2, and I can honestly say that as I did give it a good go. I found it too complex. I didn't like the competitions as I found them confusing (much prefer something like ESJ), and I didn't like the chat filter because if I got a single typo in a long sentence, my chat wouldn't post and it was the most frustrating thing *laughing out loud!*.

    5) I stayed with HI1 because of the reasons listed in the above answer, and because of my buds. HI1 is easy, a good way to spend down time, and a way to relax/not think about real life issues for a while.
    REPLY: (by Khaleesi) Apr 27 2018 8:51pm
    1) It would make it more interesting (albeit, sad) if the horses were not immortal. This way, it would keep the trading cycle alive. Right now, on HI1, no one is buying wilds because why start over when you could find any number of horses to train to get to the top spot?

    2) Chat, WildHorseHunting, Competition, NPC/quests, HorseImprovement, AdventureGathering, Puzzles, RanchBuilding, Crafting

    3) I love getting to make friends! I enjoy whispering and exping, but it is really boring if no one is on to chat to.

    4) lag.

    5) I tried to play HI2 but it was SO restrictive and complicated, I just did not. And it just lagged so hard. I could never get it to load well and it took so long to get anywhere.

    Just a bit of a suggestion... You say you are going to be able to keep HI1 and 2 which would be great, but it would be super cool if for the first couple months you opened up HI3, if you linked our usernames with our emails and held them for us on the new game. It would not have to be forever, just for the first couple months to give us a chance to start playing the game. But it would be really meaningful for us to be able to use our usernames and recognize one another. And if the other games do end up going away, it would be even more meaningful to keep our users.
    REPLY: (by Whimsy) Apr 27 2018 9:03pm
    1) Eternal Horses please

    2) Puzzles, NPC/Quests, Wild Horse hunting, Horse Improvement, Crafting, Adventure Gathering, Chat, Ranch Building, Competition

    3) HI1 I like the colorful towns, the inside jokes for fans in the quests, and the whisperer. HI2 I like the training contract automatically returns the horse to the true owner, being able to customize your avatar hair and clothes, the boarder range of horse colors, and that you see the horse in the wild.

    4) HI1 least favorite is lag. HI2 is the gloomy colors, the lack of a whisperer, the lag, and how complicated the play is.

    5) I tried out HI2 for a few of months. I returned to HI1 because it was charming, more user friendly, prettier, and presently I find it to be more active.
    REPLY: (by Lion) Apr 27 2018 9:04pm
    1) I do like the idea of breeding, but I don't think I'd be fond of the idea of horses dying, especially if I'm pretty attached to the horse and have spent a lot of effort training. If "in-between" suggestions are alright, I do know of some other games with implemented breeding systems in which horses have maybe one/two breeds and live forever. Otherwise, I do prefer Eternal.

    2) WildHorseHunting, Chat, HorseImprovement, Competition, Puzzles, NPC/Quests, AdventureGathering, RanchBuilding, Crafting

    3) I loved whispering horses - I'd just spend hours and hours running around the map after them. *laughing out loud!*

    4) I would really enjoy more customization within the game. Something like craftable clothes that showed on your character, event outfits, and a variety of profile text options would definitely be very cool. Also, it would really be nice if players had a bit more time before accounts were deleted from inactivity. I've been playing on and off for years now, and it's always a bit devastating/discouraging to lose progress and start all over again.

    5) I really enjoyed the music. I've played HI1 for a very long time now, and the music is extremely nostalgic to me now. I don't mind the complexity of HI2, but I felt like it didn't have the same kind of charm and personal connection as HI1 so HI2 never really caught my interest.

    I'm very excited for the possibility of HI3! Thanks to the HI team for all of your work and I wish you guys the great success in the future! :D
    REPLY: (by Omnixx) Apr 27 2018 9:09pm
    I started played HI1 when it first came out (granted I did take a long break), and I'm excited to see what y'all come up with for HI3!

    1) I prefer the idea of breeding, since you can always work hard on the horse you have from the beginning and breed them to make your next horse better and better. I prefer that idea, but I also like the idea that was suggested by Lacuna about the one time breeding. That would be interesting as well.

    2) Chat, WildHorseHunting, NPC/Quests, Competition, AdventureGathering, HorseImprovement, RanchBuilding, Puzzles, Crafting

    3) My favorite part about HI1 is the simplicity, the amount of quests you can do, whispering, and buddy chat!

    4) My least favorite part about HI1 is less players online and the economy.

    5) I stayed with HI1 rather than going to HI2 because the game was so complicated, and it felt like you really couldn't do anything unless you were subbed.
    REPLY: (by Lassi) Apr 28 2018 2:51am
    1) Eternal. Played HI2 for a small time and the novelty of breeding horses wore off very quick. Plus I don't want to waste time training something thats ultimately gonna die.

    2) WildHorseHunting, HorseImprovement, Competition, RanchBuilding, Chat,
    Chat, Crafting, AdventureGathering, Puzzles, NPC/Quests,

    3) Whispering and the simplicity

    4) How 'zoomed in' HI2 looks. I much prefer the amount you can see on your screen in HI1

    5) -HI2 screen is too 'zoomed in'
    -Novelty of breeding horses wares off
    -Would rather train a horse on HI1 that will last forever than die
    -The way competitions work on HI2 is horrible & horses shoe ware etc runs out too quick
    -Takes too long to get anywhere on HI2
    -There is no way to whisper on HI2 except the flute-which you never get a good horse with anyway
    -Stat variation on HI2 is too much
    REPLY: (by Bokeh) Apr 28 2018 4:21am
    1) Is the fact that there is no breeding and that horses do not die important to you? Eternal Horses vs Breeding is a big decision to be made. Please give a short answer of your preference.

    I love the idea of breeding, and it would be great to implement this. However, I don't like the idea of my horses "dying", especially after all the hard work that has gone into it. Could there possibly be a "breeding" type of thing were the progeny inherits some of the structure withholding water and sires stats, but is obviously a horse when it's born as horses won't age? *laughing out loud!*.

    2) Please order in your preference of gameplay mechanic, favorite first:

    Competition, Chat, Horse hunting, horse improvement, adventure, ranch building, quests, craft, puzzles

    3) Briefly, what is your favorite part of HI1/2?

    Whispering and training

    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1/2?

    Grinding out finding quest items

    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2?

    I didn't like the gameplay, it was too choppy and far too difficult to learn.
    REPLY: (by Desertmorn) Apr 28 2018 5:12am
    1) Prefer no breeding and that horses do not die.

    2) NPC/Quests, Puzzles, AdventureGathering, Chat

    3) HI1 - questing

    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1 - horse improvement

    5) HI2 gameplay was too complicated, and visually difficult for me due to lack of eye coordination - I got dizzy too easily.
    REPLY: (by CookieDough) Apr 28 2018 8:26am
    1) preferably eternal

    2) Chat, Competition, WildHorseHunting, HorseImprovement,Puzzles,AdventureGathering, NPC/Quests, Crafting

    3) Favorite part of HI1- whispering and simplicity

    4) Least favorite part of HI2- chat filter

    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2? chat filter, and the simplicity
    REPLY: (by Corolla) Apr 28 2018 10:30am
    1) Eternal is nice because of the fact that if I want to take a hiatus, I can come back and all my ponies will be safe and sound (minus a few stats..) At the same time, I really like breeding mechanics in games. I find genetics super interesting! It's such a toss up, but I may have to say eternal just to take a nod back to OG Horseisle.

    2) Chat, Wild Horse Hunting, Horse Improvement, NPC/Quests, Adventure Gathering, Ranch Building, Competition, Crafting, Puzzles.


    3) HI1: Favorite things are the wild horse hunting, questing and simplicity.
    HI2: Favorite things are how you can SEE items/wild horses instead of just walking aimlessly hoping to land on something and customization of tack/items on horses as well as the options of colors/markings for each horse.

    4) HI1: Least Favorite things: lag/bugs, how quickly trained stats drop, economy and lack of players.
    HI2: Least Favorite things: Chat filter, how little player to player interaction there is, the fact you have to SUB to buy a horse from another player, and how complicated stats, training, and competitions are to understand.

    5) I play mostly HI1 and I have stayed because of the player to player interaction mostly! I don't feel so lonely, even though there's only like, 20 people on most of the time. It's simpler to play and nostalgic for me since I began when I was much much younger *laughing out loud!*. I keep trying to get into HI2 but for some reason just can't get into it. It's hard to get started and it seems like a lot of the mechanics are just so complicated and I just don't have the patience for it all.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 28 2018 12:09pm
    Deleted a post as it contained content that is not allowed to be discussed on HI. I have copy/pasted the reply below with some editing for the inappropriate content.

    1) I find eternal horses much better - it's what I'm used to on HI.

    2) Chat, horse hunting, competition, npc/quests, puzzles, adventure gathering, ranch building, crafting, horse improvement

    3) Just being able to wander around a fairly simple looking game and being able to chat with everyone, and enjoy the simplicity of the gameplay

    4) Probably the strict filter. I do understand that it is a kid's game, but the whole filter on the {adult/gender referencing content} I figured myself out from the help of an old player, and that was only because we were able to find each other offline. If we were able to talk online about that stuff, it would've made my {life easier.}

    5) I stayed because of the nostalgia factor, and because of the simplicity of it. Like others have said, HI2 is just really complicated. I've tried multiple times to play it, but it was just so confusing and laggy.

    Note: Part in braces is edited content. Poster's name is not included as I do not wish to call anyone out for something. No violations are given, I just took out the not allowed part.
    REPLY: (by Twins) Apr 29 2018 7:35am
    1) I really enjoy breeding, but also love eternal horses. What if we could do breeding and then we could have a "token" that you can buy and use to make them eternal?

    2) Please order in your preference of gameplay mechanic, favorite first:
    Horse improvement, chat, wild horse hunting, ranch building, adventure gathering, puzzles, npc/quests, competition, crafting.

    3) Briefly, what is your favorite part of HI1/2?
    HI1, Horses live forever.
    HI2, breeding.

    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1/2?
    Probably lag for both? Not a big issue though.

    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2? I play both
    REPLY: (by Haunter) Apr 29 2018 2:06pm
    1) I'm kind of a sentimental sap that gets attached to my pixels so I would rather prefer them not to die. Especially after putting so much time into them. Sure, breeding is cool, but I'd prefer to keep my horse around forever.

    2) Customization (I love being able to personalize anything about a game to make it my own), chat, wild horse hunting, npc/quests, competition, horse improvement, puzzles, adventure gathering, ranch building

    3) All of the great friends that I have made since joining this game 8 years ago. To think of all of the wonderful people all around the world that you wouldn't of had the opporunity to "meet" if not for this game

    4) Honestly right now the lack of new material/help from the staff. I used to love this game and the challenge that the quests posed, but now with the rare updates I can't really quest (hello 100%) and so I really just come on now and then to jump my pixels for a little bit and chat with my friends.

    5) I have attempted to play HI2, but it just didn't feel the same to me, plus the fact that in order to breed or even trade with someone (who wasn't a member) you had to be a member yourself. Like I get that you need members to pay for the game but trading? C'mon.
    REPLY: (by Stellar) Apr 29 2018 3:22pm
    1) ETERNAL. for sure. i can NOT get myself invested in a game where my horses will die. as someone who is busy and not always able to play consistently, knowing that my favorite pixels will always be there for me to come back to is the reason i can continue to play. HI1 was (and still is) a big part of my life.

    2) CUSTOMIZATION. CHAT. HorseImprovement. NPC/Quests. AdventureGathering. WildHorseHunting. Competition. RanchBuilding. Competition. Crafting. Puzzles.

    3) i love the community created in HI1. the friends and memories i've made because of it are invaluable. the customization is also a big draw.

    4) in HI2, i appreciated being able to ride your horse and having the more 3D aspect, but honestly the social/community aspect is so restrictive i will not play it. i understand the need to make a game safe, but we also have to acknowledge that there's a digital language that's much different than our spoken language and heavily restricting the way we communicate is a big turn off. i'm all for filtering out inappropriate words, but there needs to be some leeway with the digital/chat/colloquial language that's used today.

    5) i definitely prefer HI1 over HI2, mostly for the ease of communication. even though i like the 3D aspect of HI2, it honestly sometimes feels (graphics wise) lower quality than HI1. the zoom-in is TOO zoomed-in, the map is hard to read, and it doesn't really feel like a cohesive game. (plus all the chat restrictions that i already covered.) the horse's art is nice, but only when you're actually viewing the horse, not when you're riding it.

    *) i'd like to say that i do like the idea of a one-time breeding or some other way to incorporate foals in the game without losing the eternal aspect that keeps me playing.

    though i'll always be loyal to HI1, i'm excited to see where HI3 goes.
    REPLY: (by Fawn) Apr 30 2018 10:17am
    1. I like the eternal aspect more so that we do not lose the horses. I could never get into LC so it wouldn't bother me if breeding wasn't a part of the new game.

    2. Horse Improvement, Ranch Building, Competition, Chat, NPC/Quests, Adventure/Gathering, Wild Horse Hunting, Crafting, Puzzles

    3. My favorite part of HI1/Eternal is the ability to train the horses and keep them forever. HI2 wise is the training contracts, daily exp at ranches given, and the ability to save up stat points to train later on. Sometimes we're not always able to get to a PC to hop online so it's nice knowing our horses are still being trained and such. I also like the fact that horses don't lose stat points on eternal compared to HI1 if not trained for an extended period of time.Separate ranch islands are also amazing.

    4. I -do not- like the fact that accounts don't time out on eternal.

    5. I play HI1 more than I do eternal as I have more heart into HI1. It's a familiarity and time invested type deal. I love certain aspects of HI2, I just don't have much invested there. (:
    REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) Apr 30 2018 12:45pm
    1) Eternal for sure. Breeding would be nice if you would do growing from foal to adult and then just being eternal, but I feel like if you were willing to do that you would have done it on HI2 so I assume that's moot.

    2) WildHorseHunting, Puzzles, Chat, Competitions, NPC/quests, Horse Improvements, Ranch Building, Crafting

    3) I've always loved how simple HI1 is, while still being fun and having beautiful artwork for the horses. I've also always loved how family friendly it is, like how good the chat filter is, kudos on that one.

    4) I guess the only thing I've ever not liked is a select few quests that don't guide you quite well enough, that maybe could have used further hints for younger kids.

    5) I did try HI2, but was just overwhelmed immediately. At the time it was released I wasn't big into online gaming and it was just big and confusing, so I never went back to it. I have no idea what my opinion might be on it now but I'm just still invested in my pixels that I've had for...well going on 11 years now.

    I want to add thank you for keeping HI1 and 2 alive for the future, it means a lot to me, and many others I'm sure. I'm very excited to see HI3.
    REPLY: (by Lyra) Apr 30 2018 1:46pm
    1) Eternal all the way, I felt too sad when horses died and I had spent time training them.

    2) Horse improvement, Wild horse hunting, NPC/quests, Competitions, Adventure gathering, Chat, Puzzles, Ranch building, Crafting.

    3) HI1 is incredibly nostalgic, very simplistic and easy to understand, able to keep horses forever and the quests are fun and challenging.

    4) On HI2 chat was very restrictive, I found that it lagged quite a bit, HI2 required you to be subscribed for you to do a lot of things you can do for free on HI1 and no whisperer on HI2.

    5) I've tried HI2 plenty of times since it was originally released, but each time I found it too confusing and too laggy to continue playing and it's just harder to get into overall.
    REPLY: (by Viktor) May 1 2018 1:23pm
    (had to put my original reply in hi2 forums because these are so bugged and it never posted. Is there a character limit or something? but I have one more thing to say)

    WESTERN COMPETITIONS!
    I love the English ones we have, but it would be so nice to have western ones as well. Competitive barrel racing, poles, trail, whatever, instead of micro-minigames that give no exp.

    Honestly I love the other micro-minigames though, the geo-wiz, horse word guess, horse anatomy. They were entertaining and educational, even 11 years later I enjoy playing them.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 1 2018 3:13pm
    If you are having a problem getting something to post here, please let me know in a mail including the content you wish to post.

    It's possibly an old forum bug that is re-surfacing.

    I can either post it here from the mail or send it to Joe from the mail if it won't post here.

    Trying to figure out if this is a bug or if someone is deleting posts without giving a reason.

    You can use the Contact Us link below if you wish. Or, send it to support at horseisle dot com
    REPLY: (by PinkFloyd) May 1 2018 3:56pm
    1) While I do appreciate the intricacies of breeding, I'd prefer eternal.

    2) Wild Horse Hunting, Chat, NPC/Quests, Horse Improvement, Competition, Crafting, Puzzles, Adventure Gathering, Ranch Building.

    3) Like most people, I enjoy the nostalgia and simplistic nature of HI1. I appreciated the ambitious nature of HI2 and the uniqueness of each horse.

    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1/2?
    HI2 made me feel really isolated without a sub. Given, I now have the ability to buy subs on my own in contrast to when it first came out, *laughing out loud!*. I understand the need for a filter, but the chat on HI2 was very restricting.

    5) Again, the nostalgia, simplicity, and connectivity to other players whether or not you have a subscription. Also, HI2 can be a bit overwhelming, and if you start out late compared to others it feels as though you'll never catch up.
    REPLY: (by Everlend) May 1 2018 10:14pm
    1) Is the fact that there is no breeding and that horses do not die important to you? Eternal Horses vs Breeding is a big decision to be made. Please give a short answer of your preference.
    - I always enjoyed that none of my horses could breed. They lived forever and could be accompanied by a "foal" or another creature.

    2) Please order in your preference of gameplay mechanic, favorite first:
    Chat, Crafting, Ranch Building, Horse Improvement, Adventure Gathering, Wild Horse Hunting, Puzzles, NPC/Quests, Competition
    Wild Horse Hunting, Chat, Competition, Quests, Puzzles, Adventure, Crafting, Horse Improvement, Ranch Improvement

    3) Briefly, what is your favorite part of HI1/2?
    I have always enjoyed the simplicity about HI1. I remember joining in '08 and being dazzled by the game and the content. I liked that it was game that I could log on and chat with buds or I could play puzzles and quests depending on how I was feeling for the day.

    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1/2?
    For me there are two things. The first aspect is that I cannot move my horses that I had forever between servers. Once my server was no more, I had to move to another server and start over. While I didn't mind the starting over part, I did regret leaving horses on my home server since they all meant something to me and had memories attached to them (and yes, I do realize they are virtual horses, but I did <3 them xD).

    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2?
    I only play HI1. I originally tried HI2, but the graphics and overall game play was not to my fancy at the time. I was also very busy in real life and did not have much time to devote to learning a new game.

    --I look forward to seeing what you all develop for H3 :).
    REPLY: (by Aotearoa) May 3 2018 6:13am
    1)I prefer my horse living forever because I usually only jump one or two horses/have a small amount of horses and I would hate having to keep it alive tbh.

    2)Chat, Crafting, Wild Horse Hunting, Puzzles, NPC/Quests, Horse Improvement, Adventure Gathering, Competition, Ranch Building

    3) Favourite part is probably having so much to do & how easy it is to work.

    4) The strict chat filter (like toothest), maybe you could look into at the start when you pick if you're above or below a certain age the filter is different? Just a thought.

    5) Just like this one better/prefer the pixels.
    REPLY: (by Rude) May 3 2018 6:48am
    1) Is the fact that there is no breeding and that horses do not die important to you? Eternal Horses vs Breeding is a big decision to be made. Please give a short answer of your preference.


    - I prefer eternal. While breeding is cute and fun. Lacuna's idea is the only one that appeals to me. Otherwise just stick to eternal. Because the main aspect of the game that I (and many others) spend time on is "improving" the horses. Would be pointless if they die.


    2) Please order in your preference of gameplay mechanic, favorite first:


    WildHorseHunting, Chat, HorseImprovement, Competition, NPC/Quests, Puzzles, Ranch Building, Crafting


    3) Briefly, what is your favorite part of HI1/2?

    HI1:
    - The Whisperer
    - Chat. Despite my dislike of how heavily filtered it gets (majority of us are now adults), I do like that you generally have the freedom to type how you wish. (So you can actually enthusiastically say "Heeeeey", or make up silly words with no meaning etc. like giving buddies weird nicknames)
    - The relative simplicity
    - Not having to be a subscriber to do most things.

    HI2:
    - The variability of horse coats. That is actually very cool and unique.
    - The amount of companions you can have- this too is pretty fun
    - The tack - love it
    ^ So basically I LOVE the artwork on the horses/companions/tack etc.


    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1/2?

    For HI1:
    - The limited amount of spaces on the ranch.
    - The text limitation on horse descriptions.
    - Getting vios for accidentally misspelling words such as dang. Very annoying.
    - The fact that with adding more quests, it made it take wayy longer to get a certain amount of QP%. It would be nice to not have to literally do every single existing quest to get to 100%, so then some are optional but then people that have 100% qp can still enjoy doing new quests.
    - The QP rewards are all over the place. Some quests you go all over HI and craft stuff and get just 100QP. Whilst there are some that you barely do a thing and get 200QP or more.


    For HI2:
    - The chat filter is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion. It is horrible and for me was 100% the biggest turn-off.
    There is ZERO expressive freedom. I cannot speak the way I described in point 3. It makes chatting bland and completely not personal or fun.
    - ALSO (adding to the chat filter complaint) the fact that you have to spell all things perfectly is really frustrating for dyslexic people. You shouldn't have to be great at spelling to be able to socialise.
    Not everyone has English as their first language either, might I add, making the game much less playable/fun/attractive to non-native English speakers.
    - The font of the text. The font and size were unpleasant (yes I am nit-picking but for me it was annoying)
    - Having to subscribe to be able to do pretty much ANYTHING. 2nd biggest turn-off for me.


    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2?

    - Chatting with my buds. On HI2, again, the chat filter is just so aggravating. Lack of freedom of expression drove me away and kept me on HI1.
    - It is simple, but not overly simple.
    - The lay-out: it isn't a huge massive screen in your face nor is it tiny. There is no overload of buttons etc and the font is pleasantly readable.
    - Personal Profiles are a pleasant font and the letters arent huge in your face.
    - You don't have to be a subscriber to do things.
    REPLY: (by Hector) May 3 2018 6:51am
    1)

    It is important to me that the horses are eternal and do not die. You put a lot of effort into the horses and them staying alive forever either allows to to continue to make them even more epic, or even selling them but still getting return for your efforts.


    2)

    WildHorseHunting, Chat, Competition, Puzzles, RanchBuilding, HorseImprovement, AdventureGathering, NPC/Quests, Crafting


    3)

    Personally I never got the hang of HI2 and didn’t really like any of the features.
    I like that HI1 is simple and even if you don’t have a sub you can still explore and be a part of the game, but the benefits that come with subs is worth it.
    I also just love the pixels and the jumping set up.

    4)

    Honestly can’t think of something really important that I dislike about HI1.
    I didn’t really like much of HI2, just personal preference. It was just a hard to get a hang of and everything confuses me in general. I think mainly the chat of hi2, wild horses, the confusion of the isles and the movement of the character was off putting.

    5)

    Since I never got the hang of HI2 that is a reason I definitely stayed with HI1. I think the simplistic set up around chats/horses is so much better in HI1. I also prefer the pixels of both the horses and the whole game layout. I’m a very simplistic person hence why I stayed with HI1.
    I also love the chat, it is really easy to connect to people and makes the game even more fun.
    REPLY: (by Rude) May 3 2018 6:51am
    BY THE WAY: forgot to add this to my least favourite parts of HI2:

    - The movement is SLOW. Too slow. Wayyy too slow. And the zoom is much too close. It is nice to zoom in close and see things like that, but zooming out further would be much appreciated.
    - The art of the game (when you're NOT looking at your horse), so when you're walking around, is not so great. It reminds me of 3D Playmobil
    REPLY: (by Baili) May 3 2018 10:46am
    First off, thank you guys for keeping HI1 and HI2 i'm sure we are all in the same boat with how thankful we are for that. :D

    1)I've always loved Eternal more because if i spend so much time on my horses, I don't want them to eventually pass away like in real life, I know it sounds weird but oh well. Eternal for me.

    2)Before I say anything, I don't know if it's something you guys would be open to doing, but something that annoyed me about HI2 was that talking with friends was definitely slowed down due to the fact that each word had to be a real word, and sometimes we have typos on HI1 but atleast the chat goes out quick. I just liked the way the chat was a lot more on HI1 but I know people go around the filter so I understand if you would want it more like HI2.

    As far as question number 2, I would say Wild Horse Hunting, Competition, Chat, Ranch Building, Horse Improvement, Quests, Adventure Gathering, Puzzles, Crafting.

    Also something to add in, I also liked Horse Hunting in the wild on HI1 better. I know a lot of people are mixed about it, but I really like the whole Idea of the whisperer on HI1.

    3) Favorite part of HI1 would probably be the simplicity... I don't know... it seems weird but i've grow up on this game and I still enjoy it as an adult just as much as I did when i was a child. Besides that I really enjoy Simple Jump and whispering. Also really liked everyone being able to see where your ranch was. I just named fifty things so that probably defeated the point. In regards to HI2 I really liked all the extra stuff that was added, which probably goes against me liking how HI1 was simple but oh well. I also very much liked the extra ranch additions, pretty much having your own island.

    4) Not sure there was anything I really disliked about HI1. HI2 seemed to get a little boring for me sometimes, finding horses was frustrating for me because it took 3589238579 minutes just to get from one side of a huge island to another, but my friends had an easier time finding horses than me. Other than that, I didn't play it enough to have other valid points.

    5) I kept staying with HI1 but occasionally going to HI2 when I was annoyed with HI1, but that was not very often. I really only went to HI2 when friends were on from HI1. I just enjoyed that simplicity of HI1 and was able to stay on it all day instead of a couple hours on HI2, but i'm sure if i got into it I could've stayed longer.

    Thanks for asking for our help!
    REPLY: (by MeltedMocha) May 3 2018 12:39pm
    1) I prefer breeding and being able to work for specific genes. It adds more realism to the game and watching your horses grow is really satisfying in my opinion.

    2) Wild Horse Hunting, Horse Improvement, Chat, NPC/Quests, Ranch Building, Puzzles, Adventure Gathering, Competition, Crafting

    3) HI1: Simple, yet challenging, fun and rewarding. And you can do more without a subscription.
    HI2: Horse art, decor, animations and breeding.
    4) HI1: Less color variations and horses can't be bred.
    HI2: Without a subscription, its very hard to progress in the game. Also just too much material and it becomes overwhelming quickly.

    5) I play both but mostly HI1 and I have to say the people on HI1 are friendlier and its much easier to have fun while still progressing in the game.
    REPLY: (by Sassenach) May 5 2018 12:25am
    1) I most definitely prefer the eternal aspect. I tend to start collections of horses that I absolutely love and refuse to sell (many of which I have had for several years). If they happened to age and eventually die, that would really discourage me from playing. If that means that there is no breeding in game, so be it. It definitely outweighs losing some of my favourite horses after a specific amount of time.

    2) Chat is definitely the most important. I personally feel like HI3 should be mainly modeled after HI1, as most of us lean toward the original game compared to the second version. I know several of the other players have joined HI2, but we don’t necessarily like the format/lag. I feel that keeping all of the aspects we have on here compared to HI2, but perhaps amping it up a little bit, would be super nice.

    3) I personally love the whispering, the community aspect, and the nostalgia that HI1 offers. Many of us have forged pretty tight friendships over the years here. HI1 has always been an escape and fun place to come to at the end of the night or during the day when I manage to catch a break. For HI2, the artwork is fantastic. I really appreciate the variations of coat colours that they have over there compared to our limited set on here.

    4) My least favourite part of HI1 is the chat restrictions. I know that many (if not all) current players started out younger/as children, but we are all late teens and up at this point. I feel that we should have a more open chat, though I would understand if some things were still monitored like bullying/super explicit content. Then again, that’s why we have the mute button. Same thing goes for HI2, the chat absolutely blows. Also, having to be subbed to basically do anything is a huge drawback. The fact that you can’t whisper horses and have to wait a minute or so after attempting (and failing) to catch a horse is also incredibly annoying.

    5) I only play HI1. I have given HI2 many shots over the years and I just can’t get into it. I don’t like the layout. It’s super complex and overwhelming. While HI1 is MUCH simpler and 2D, I don’t think any of us mind that. I actually prefer the way it looks to HI2 because there is just so much going on and I feel like I get lost in it all. I would like to get some newer art/features that HI2 has for HI3, but I would want it to meet somewhere in the middle. HI2 is too big and has too much going on. HI1 is simple, and I love it, but if we could just implement more breed colours/etc like HI2 has that would be fabulous. The lag on HI2 is also horrendous – even on a newer laptop.

    I also TOTALLY agree with Khaleesi about holding our usernames for us. That would be a wonderful feature if able to be implemented.
    REPLY: (by Luci) May 5 2018 6:46am
    1) I would very much like to keep the eternal horses. While breeding might be fun too, I tend to get attached to my horses. :P

    2) Oh, that's difficult. I'd say chat(because it's so much more fun playing with other people), wild horse hunting, NPC/Quests, Competition, Puzzles, Horse improvement, ranchbuilding, adventure gathering, crafting.

    3) Briefly, the community, the at the momentoshpere, the feelings. I'm talking about HI1 only, I love the nostalgic feelings of the layout. Simple, but so enjoyable. And cutesy.

    4) Starting is hard. I've lost my account more than once, but I've never come as far again. Making money is hard, especially without a sub.

    5) I've stayed because I saw no appealing reason to leave HI1. I love its nostalgic feeling, HI2 never appealed to me, to me it looked like the at the momentoshpere I love so much on HI1 was gone.
    REPLY: (by Pinestorm) May 5 2018 7:41pm
    I am concerned about one thing. Most people stayed on Hi1 because we hated how dependant Hi2 was on money (trading, auctions, etc). Would Hi3 be more of an regular game without depending so much on real money? I don't think many hi1 folks would be as willing to join hi3 if it was the same economic structure as hi2.
    REPLY: (by Pandora) May 10 2018 3:57pm
    1) Is the fact that there is no breeding and that horses do not die important to you? Eternal Horses vs Breeding is a big decision to be made. Please give a short answer of your preference.

    I prefer the lack of breeding as it is simpler, wild horses have a lot more value as I mostly enjoy the Wild Horse Catching aspect of the game (it's all I ever do). It makes better horses rarer and more luck of the draw to achieve.

    2) Please order in your preference of gameplay mechanic, favorite first:
    Chat, Crafting, RanchBuilding, HorseImprovement, AdventureGathering, WildHorseHunting, Puzzles, NPC/Quests, Competition
    Wild Horse Hunting, Competition, Chat, Horse Improvement, Ranch Building, Quests, Puzzles, Adventure Gathering and Crafting.

    3) Briefly, what is your favorite part of HI1/2?
    Only HI1 for me. The nostalgia, the simplicity, the art, the community, the way it feels like horse-pokemon, its a pure game which doesn't feel real-money based, you can easily play here with in-game money. And
    the wild horse catching. Whispering is my favourite activity to do and if HI3 has a good way to whisper and catch wild horses, I would definitely play that for years.

    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1?
    The navigation, how fast your avatar moves. Least favourite about HI2 would be how it's not as easy to catch wilds.

    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2?
    HI2's lack of global chat really was a killer for me when I tried it. I felt pretty alone and when I did try and branch out I didn't like the community, as theres no global community the abundance of 'cliques' and 'groups' was too much. Also, there was no whisperer so I would look for hours for ponies and not get much from it for my time.
    REPLY: (by SleepyCat) May 10 2018 9:08pm
    I'm really late to the party, but heres my


    1) Is the fact that there is no breeding and that horses do not die important to you?
    I only play HI1 so this doesn't really matter to me, but eternal would give me more time with the horse to put more time and effort into it rather than it expiring and all my efforts going along with it.

    2) Please order in your preference of gameplay mechanic, favorite first:

    Chat, Wild horse hunting, ranch building, horse improvement, competitions, NPC/Quests, adventure/gathering, puzzles, crafting.

    3) Briefly, what is your favorite part of HI1/2?
    Favourite part of HI1: simplicity, 2D gameplay. I love how simple it is to play and navigate.

    HI2: Nothing, I didn't like it and I don't play it.

    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1/2?

    HI1: I can't think of anything I dislike. At all.

    HI2: All of it, I couldn't take to it, I felt like it was too complex to navigate, the tutorial was not very helpful and I just didn't enjoy it at all. I don't know if this will make any sense but I felt like it is very crowded and overwhelming (and it feels like your very close?), and it's extremely hard to navigate. Whereas HI1 its so simplistic and spread out and you don't feel so crowded.

    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2?

    It's very difficult to get anywhere in the game if you don't have a sub on HI2, I've tried numerous times to give it a chance bit have found it way too overwhelming to play, I really dislike HI2.
    Personally, I love HI1 as I've made so many great friends and its so simply set out and easy to play. I love the 2d aspect as it makes it feel less crowded and better to get around as hi2 feels so crowded and difficult to navigate.

    Hopefully this makes sense, I'm half asleep *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by Jor) May 12 2018 7:42pm
    Thanks all! I'm doing my best to find a balance between some of your Horse Isle loves and hates :) We will be making a general news posting soon with some basic HI3 information, and then it's back to work for me. All day everyday to bring you a new world :) I know you are all excited, But we have to get further along before any more concrete reveals :) Trust that I and others are working hard! Thanks!
    REPLY: (by Jor) May 12 2018 8:21pm
    Additionally: To address some issues brought up in the forums: we never “ignored” anyone. Life gets busy and I am a single-track-focuser. We switched to a big project on building a local non-profit community workshop in our home town. That is where 110% of my time and effort has gone the last three years, scraping paint and helping folks learn laser engraver, etc. A while back I made a big effort to help improve the economies of HI but the drama was overwhelming. We made some improvements, but anything we tweak on a long established game can cause more problems than solve. For those reasons, with many people not appreciating, and lack of time, it is safer to just leave well enough alone.

    Per complaints about the violations system, we never allowed anyone to false claim. All reports are fact-checked. the Actual chat logs are reviewed, the actual transactions are looked at. no one can make stuff up. In fact players can earn violations for filing false reports. Nothing can be 100% perfect, but is simply not as wild west as some of the claims.

    That said, now I'm committed to HI3. Since first of January, 2018 I have done *Nothing* but sit and work on it. We've recently even hired an additional full time programmer, several artists and a genetics expert. I am working 70-80 hours a week on our beloved universe. To those that try to make a claim of us not caring, you are incorrect. However, even with my huge time and effort commitment, these things take time. Lots of time. I spent 2.5 years of 80 hour weeks to launch HI2. I hope to focus on essentials and get a playable base that we can expand on after release, but even that will likely take until the end of this year for beta. I cannot spend much time updating the progress as it's usually impossible to properly explain something without a full time publicist person, and instead may lead to false conclusions and disappointment. But, know that we are working Hard, and are taking lessons learned from HI1/2.

    Will do some news postings soon!
    Thanks!
    REPLY: (by Elanor) May 14 2018 2:25am
    Super excited, Jor! Can't wait!
    REPLY: (by Bula) May 15 2018 1:05am
    1) Is the fact that there is no breeding and that horses do not die important to you? Eternal Horses vs Breeding is a big decision to be made. Please give a short answer of your preference.

    I'd prefer there not to be any breeding! I like eternal life cycles. I don't want to have to worry about the horses dying and such.

    2) Please order in your preference of gameplay mechanic, favorite first:
    Chat, Crafting, RanchBuilding, HorseImprovement, AdventureGathering, WildHorseHunting, Puzzles, NPC/Quests, Competition

    Chat (HI1 not HI2), Wild Horse Hunting, Competition, Ranch Building, NPC/Quests, Horse Improvement, Puzzles, Adventure/Gathering

    3) Briefly, what is your favorite part of HI1/2?

    I LOVE the way HI1 looks. Everything about it. I love the chat and how much easier it is to talk than on HI2. I really prefer the colors of the chat and the fonts as well on HI1. They're really overbearing on HI2, and being someone who is extremely affected by colors (weird, right?) it was a MAJOR turn off to have to deal with the colors on HI2. I also really liked how on HI1, you don't have to be subbed to do things, except to buy a ranch.

    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1/2?

    I didn't like the travel on HI1, at least to get to different islands. I guess I'm just spoiled with the unipeg. I didn't like that we couldn't see a person's profile and horses if they weren't online. I also really, really hate that the breeds keep being redone. Every time I see a "This breed is redone" update, I get so scared! I LOVED some of the older styles of the breeds, now they look too shiny and fake.
    In HI2, I really didn't care for the animation too much. I liked the realism of the horses in HI1. As I said before, I didn't like the colors. It was also really difficult to do things without a membership, which I didn't want to spend money on beacuse I didn't even know if I liked the game yet.

    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2?

    I grew up with HI1. I'm so familiar with the towns and NPC's that I have muscle memory for going to different isles. I LOVED the older animation of the horses. I like how simple it is. I like the colors of the chat and how they used a thin font. I liked that it was 2D. I liked the way everything looked. I liked how easy it was to get into buildings and not having to wait extra amount of time or lag out. I liked being able to talk to my friends on the buddy chat and not be extremely restricted. I loved how easy it was to navigate and how we could all stand on eachother to trade and do other simple tasks.
    REPLY: (by Jor) May 15 2018 6:48pm
    Posted some basic HI3 info if anyone can find it. :)
    REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) May 16 2018 6:06am
    Joe how can you toy with our emotions like this! Haha. Anybody see where it is?
    REPLY: (by Haunter) May 16 2018 7:00am
    From what I read, I really hope that it's not too similar to HI2. Otherwise I'm enjoying the idea of the game thus far.
    REPLY: (by FlashOfHope) May 16 2018 8:32am
    I have found and read the info on HI3, kinda have some questions and some ideas. Cause I threw out my back, am maybe slightly dopey, and have had 6 cups of coffee. Some basic answers on questions would be great...don't think I am asking anything too huge. Mostly just some random thoughts on ideas that I think would be great. Mostly just consider it spitballing some ideas I suppose.


    "Buy an actual, large plot of land in the world and build your ranch" Does this mean full customization? Like if I want a barn and house painted white with pink glitter trim, I can have a princess house and barn?(Used those colors, because my kid watches me play and would LOVE to help pick colors, and that is what she would choose.) I know I would LOVE to build and customize my ranch so it is 100% my own. I don't wanna find another 100% like it.
    Sizes of buildings would naturally have base sizes, but it would be awesome if we could pick our paint colors. Really make it our own.

    If done as "Client Download" will it be a purchase or a free download? If I have to buy the game AND pay for subscription, I'd rather see a "Buy the game get X amount of game money, first horse of choice, and first month subscription as a trial" type thing. I know a lot of the HI1 players seem upset that its going to have a lot of the HI2 feel. I personally like HI2 better. I play HI1 still for my love/hate relationship with the whisperer. I would be thrilled if it were all HI2 with the whisperer. But the others, not so much. If it came with a free fully loaded trial with purchase of the download, they could see how they like the game fully loaded. Plus, you still make a profit from all who buy the download, if that is the route you are taking(Which from a business standpoint, does seem logical).
    All who like the game can keep playing for free, or continue subscribing.

    Also, could you explain the "Club will be central" bit? Does this mean I will HAVE to be in a club? That I will HAVE to socialize? Cause I will admit...I have 4 people I talk to. I'm not the most social creature out there. 100% Mare Stare type socialization skills. I don't wanna have to socialize with people if I don't want to. I'll happily pay club fees, just please leave me alone. xD

    Now, I didn't see much on the chat side which is concerning. Because despite being as social as a hungry grizzly bear out looking for a uhh...new friend...I do enjoy chatting with my select few long time buds. I would love to see some changes in the chat department. Obviously nothing graphic, swearing, inappropriate topics, but I still say, if kept in PM, if one of my buds says "Go see the pic I sent you(Here on this other site) of what my kid/pet got themselves into" that it shouldn't get us in trouble. Maybe keep links out, but allow the words, especially since most of your players are now over 18 and have kids of their own. We have developed some real friendships through Horseisle. And we all are friends outside of HI now anyway. Kinda found a way around that rule years ago, even though no one mentions it to "The powers that be". Ya know, Its the little things that go a long way. This is a BIG one for me. Because the few real friends I've made here...we all have kids. We do like to send each other pictures. And if its sent online and we are playing HI instead of elsewhere, a quick "Hey, go check _____!" would be nice to be accepted without getting vios/banned. Keep the rest of chat the same if need be, but please allow some of the little things that are apart of everyday life. (We all know the powers that be are on social media. We have found your profiles. :P )

    Also...as people who have been paying you guys for YEARS now...maybe really get us involved.

    I know here and there you ask us about thoughts on some big stuff, but otherwise we are not a part of the family. Which stinks as someone who has been here since ya'll opened.

    We have a community of really talented players that would LOVE to be involved in the game in depth. I've seen some truly amazing artwork by our own players. Maybe when working on a new breed, send out a contest. "This is the breed/pet we want. Send in your best drawing of said breed/pet and our artist will make it come alive." Or even "We need some new quest ideas. Send us a cool story line that we can work into a quest." Or even "Hey, we need a new house for a new NPC, here is a brief description of what our new friend needs."

    It gets us involved and would really help show that we DO matter. It would let us be a part of the game, instead of just being a paycheck. Obviously, your own staff would still be required to do tweaking to stuff, but still. We would be a part of the game. Can you imagine the joy of coming on after an update and realizing something that came from YOU was in a game? That would be absolutely amazing.

    That is something that several players would absolutely love. I'm no artist, but I've had a lot of life events that would make for some hilarious quests. Obviously I'd leave out my grandmother kidnapping me when I was 6(Which I thought was just a super fun road trip...I mean I got to sit up front of a police car, play with the sirens, talk on the radio, and other super cool stuff for a 6 year old while my mom traveled 6 states to come get me.) but I have tons of other life events that would require some changed britches if done before a restroom trip. And I know, I am not the only one.

    I am not a quester by any means. I frequently tell people "Questing is against my religion." Or...if I HAVE to quest, "Forgive my potty mouth...but I am going to...quest...". I HATE questing. Mostly because a lot of the quests are pretty boring to me. "So and so needs you to bring her this." But a funny story to tell me WHY so and so needs popcorn, maple syrup, and feathers....I'd probably look forward to it. "Oh boy. Hershal's neighbor keeps playing ding dong ditch with him. He needs a bucket of syrup, some feathers, string, and some popcorn. Better help him out so he can set his trap. Think I'll grab some extra popcorn so I can watch too!."

    Would really make the questing chore fun if players could be involved and the quests made to be fun.

    Ok, well...I think I've made this post long enough.
    REPLY: (by Susurrus) May 16 2018 8:42am
    ^ Every part of this post above!
    REPLY: (by Haunter) May 16 2018 11:01am
    I honestly really, really like how well worded Flash's post was and it makes so much sense too.
    REPLY: (by Jor) May 16 2018 11:30am
    per hi3 info, try a web address that would make the most sense :)
    REPLY: (by Jor) May 16 2018 11:34am
    @FlashOfHope this is the road I cannot go down yet, all of these concerns will be addressed during beta. Not there yet. And dont forget all of the beta involvement we used in previous games, no worries :) Recall how many actual player's horses made it into hi2 :) Back to work! Will update and answer stuff like this when we get the system built.
    REPLY: (by Cartier) May 16 2018 4:25pm
    The only concern I really have with information we have so far is the chat. I've always felt that HI1's chat filter does a good job of keeping things G-rated while giving players freedom. HI2's extremely restrictive style of chat is 90% of the reason why I stayed with HI1 even after trying HI2 twice.
    REPLY: (by Aria) May 16 2018 5:15pm
    1. Eternal horses is critical for me. For me, training and competing a horse becomes kind of pointless if you know the horse is going to die.

    2. Chat, Horse improvement, Competition, Wild horse hunting, Ranch building, NPC/Quests, Adventure gathering, Puzzles, Crafting

    3. My favorite part of HI1 is the chat system. I love having my specific buddy chat and also a global chat for everyone that is online. Honorary mention goes to rapid travel via uni/peg and the simplicity (ease of understanding) of the competitions.

    4. Least favorite part of HI1 is that once you had accomplished "enough" quests and/or had "enough" money, there wasn't really anything to do besides compete your horses and accumulate money.

    Also, I know this will be highly unpopular with other HI1ers, but when the pawneer prices were increased, whispering became VERY profitable even if you caught all fails, and as a result there was an insane demand for it and the law of averages dictated many more "quality" horses were caught than before so much whispering occurred, devaluing the market. And, since there wasn't really anything else to do (back to point #1), many people camped out and whispered for hours. I think it ruined the value of finding wild horses.

    5. So I have played HI1 since 2008 and tried both Eternal and LC when HI2 was released. There were several reasons I ended up not staying with either HI2, including:

    - Not able to do anything without a sub, like trade with other players or buy horses in auctions; made it very difficult to try the game and become invested enough to pay real money

    - No global chat; there was never any real sense of community to me, I never felt connected to other players playing like I did on HI1

    - Hated (absolutely HATED!) that you couldn't view everyone online and see their profile/horses without either being near them or !VIEWing it. I was new and just wanted to see what other people were up to and it was annoying. There was nothing wrong with HI1's system of seeing everyone online and viewing profiles and horses.

    - Inventory and carry system was too complex; I often found myself overweight or overburdened and never had a sense of what exactly that meant and the minimal action needed to be able to ride my horse again

    - Arenas felt impossible to do well in without expensive tack I didn't have as a newbie (unlike HI1's simple jumping, where you can do decently even without the most expensive tack)

    Things I did like in HI2 over HI1:

    - The graphics were objectively much better, I love the simplistic charm of HI1 but I also liked HI2's graphics including the more varied horse color system

    - Liked that the game kept track of what quests had been started and a brief summary of where you left off.

    - Liked the system of "finding" items in the world by seeing them on the screen and then clicking (pick or whatever) and seeing them go away, versus HI1 just seeing them on the ground and not having any visual, which made looking for them very hard.
    REPLY: (by Theran) May 17 2018 6:50am
    1) I hate the idea of horses dying. So yeah, the whole "breeding" element proposed in HI3 just makes me annoyed. I feel like this will just devalue horses. LC went downhill once people realised you could just cross breed and obtain new breeds with high stats in legit 2-3 generations. Which became extremely annoying and moot point of adding new breeds when you could just cross breed and have a +150 in no time.

    2) Chat, Competition, Horse Improvement, Wild Horse Hunting, Ranch Building, Adventure Gathering, Puzzles, NPC/Quests.

    3) What briefly is your favorite part of HI1/2?
    The nostalgia. And also the unique system.

    4) What briefly is your least favorite part of HI1/2?
    The lack of advertising to encourage new players which saw the game die after 3-4 years and the silly over the top filter. If you're going to have LC as +16 to play, are you going to do the same for HI3 and therefore adjust the filter accordingly? I'm not saying to allow cuss words etc, but it really limits the game if you're going to maintain a filter suitable for 8 year olds when the majority of the game is played by those who are of older teenage or adult age. Especially if the "breeding and dying" aspects of LC warrant stating its recommended for players 16 and over? I also hate the idea of breeding and horses dying in LC and the ease of breeding high skill horses once these exist in the game. Thats why I left LC.

    5) Other thoughts?
    Please consider lifetime subs and making the purchasable elements of the game more affordable by having flash sales etc. Also, increasing your advertising to advertise on platforms that you refuse to acknowledge exist. You *know* the ones I'm talking about. Other horse games have grown their bases so hugely and become multi million dollar companies through effective advertising. There is such a demand for unique, interactive horse games. If you advertise it on these platforms, you are going to make so much more money and attract a much wider player base than if you don't. If HI2 LC has a minimum age of 16 to play, I don't see how utilising these platforms to advertise is going to cause harm because your past excuses centred around young players and not wanting to expose them to these platforms etc. Advertising = more players = more money. This money could be used to create the most amazing game and employ full time staff to take the stress of you guys. Because you all did a lot to create this. So create the game that allows you guys as game owners to sit back and relax a bit and have employees take over. After all, you *do* put in a lot of time and I can tell you guys love this game as much as we all do. If you didn't, you wouldn't be trying to make a third.
    And now, my final point: How are you going to show the players you can finally future proof a game? I hate to be rude, but HI1 died off after a few years, then you brought in HI2, which did the same after a few years. Now, both eternal and HI1 suffer really low regular player numbers and the games are essentially at a stasis with updates. And now with the whole flash player thing, what will you do to make sure this game continues on for as long as it can without having drawbacks experienced in the current games? For example, the whole way outdated flash system you use to draw and animate the horses/pets/tack/etc in for HI1 and the lack of ability to find people who can use it and create content? I grew up on this game. Little 11 year old me who got her mum to make her an account and only able to play for 10 minutes a day. I'm now grown up, own a house, have a dog, a partner and a university degree. I keep coming back because this game is something special. So all I beg, is that you make HI3 something useable for us original HI players and also long term. I don't want to see HI3 die after a few years.


    I hate to sound harsh with anything I've said, please just take this as an inquiry from a now old, overly invested (cough-obsessed-cough) original HI1/ET/former LC player who wants to keep playing this game into her old age with her grandkids.
    REPLY: (by Lioness) May 17 2018 2:27pm
    1. I like eternal horses. Frankly, life gets busy sometimes, and it's nice knowing that your work in "frozen," so to speak so that you can resume playing where you left off when you get more free time. I never started playing LifeCycle at all, because I assumed my horses would be dead by the time I got back from my breaks.

    2. Chat, Wild Horse Hunting, NPC/Quests, Competition, Horse Imporvement, Ranch Building, Puzzles, Adventure Gathering, Crafting

    3. Favorite - Interacting with players from all over the world and building friendships with fellow horse lovers

    4. Least favorite - LAG. I just had to take a two month break due to lag issues. I think I've gotten everything

    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2?
    The chat was limited, and it was a very isolating game. The lag was unbearable. The quests were too complex and frustrating. I also didn't like how the game ran on "normal" time, so when you were questing and a NPC said "Come back in two days..." You had to go back in two days. It was just off-putting and time consuming. I also didn't like the arenas there. I missed the simplicity of simple jump.
    REPLY: (by Zee) May 17 2018 5:56pm
    1) Eternal horses!

    2) Wild horse hunting, competition, chat, horse improvement, ranch building, puzzles

    3)
    HI1: The simplicity. I can do what I want in HI1, where as with HI2 its just so confusing and takes ages to do something.

    HI2: I really didn't like HI2.

    4)
    HI1: As a lot of us have grown up, I feel like more young adults are playing rather than children nowadays... so the chat filters and some of the rules are a little over the top.

    HI2: The point of view looking down onto the player isn't fun. Would be better if in a 3D game, the point of view was directly behind the player (if that makes sense).

    5) HI1 is just a better game. The chatting system is good, the game is simple (but fun). I never stayed on HI2 for more than 10 minutes. I gave it a few chances, but each time I just got annoyed and went back to HI1.
    REPLY: (by Frappe) May 17 2018 11:05pm
    @Theran

    I completely agree with every word from your fifth point.
    REPLY: (by Pinestorm) May 19 2018 7:31am
    I read the post explaining the details of Hi3. I like most things besides the chat. Can we please have a global chat and take away the spelling checks everywhere? It gets frustrating to not be able to send a post without getting spelling modded.
    REPLY: (by ElectricSheep) May 20 2018 8:00am
    1)
    Eternal by far. It’s so nice to look back at a horse that you’ve had since first joining as well as having a reason to keep training to get to the top. It would be very disappointing to have a horse that you love and have gotten attached to only to log on one day to see that it died. I like the idea of breeding and wouldn’t be opposed to it, but I would also be perfectly OK with having a HI1 system of eternal-only horses.

    2)
    Chat, WildHorseHunting, NPC/Quests, AdventureGathering, HorseImprovement, Puzzles, Competition, Crafting, RanchBuilding

    I personally prefer a more adventure style game which is why I like the quests and horse hunting so much. I could spend all day running around exploring, questing, and looking for wilds especially if it were a 3D environment.

    3)
    HI1: The art, questing system, chat, and whispering
    HI2: CUSTOMIZATION, variety in horse colors/patterns, and the music. I love the nostalgic HI1 music but I would be lying if I said that I didn’t love the HI2 music even more.

    4)
    HI1: Lack of customization/variety in horse colors, the economy (cmon, it’s kinda annoying when the only horses being bought/sold are the “top” ones for hundreds of millions)
    HI2: Chat filter (please oh please keep the HI1 chat filtering system, we’re basically all 20+ adults), lag, the fact that you needed a sub to to much of anything

    5)
    The main thing that kept me coming back to HI1 was the nostalgic feel and how easy/simple the game was to get into. Having immortal horses is also very important to me as life gets hectic and I can’t afford to play every day making sure my horse is even still alive. I played HI2 every now and then but due to the chat filtering and lack of a community at the momentosphere I got bored and lonely very quickly, and only spent about half an hour on a time running around looking for wilds. The questing in HI2 is alright, but the game itself was just too complex.

    PERSONAL NOTES: These are just extra thoughts that I had while answering but I didn’t wanna end up with 3 paragraph long answers.

    *In regards to lag, I’d be super careful with the 3D idea since 3D games tend to lag even more. The lag in HI2 was a big turn off especially on the bigger isles because there was so much to load, and a lot of us casual players don’t have a fancy gaming pc. I like the 3D idea but to keep it cartoonish/stylized, similar to World of Warcraft as that’s the only game my desktop can even run with good frames.

    *Wild horses that you can actually see; as exciting as it is to stumble across a random wild in HI1, it was a bit annoying having to search pixel by pixel for a whispered horse vs. in HI2 where you can actually see it.

    *I do like how there aren’t really any micro transactions on HI1/2, and would love to see the same for HI3. Micro transactions have made games unenjoyable for me since not everyone can drop a lot of money on cosmetics/stat increases.

    *Please make customization a big factor in HI3; customization is what really immerses a person into a game and is what makes them feel like they’re actually “there”. This can mean even having a simple character creation system at the beginning where you can make your character and your first horse to get you started.

    *Day/night/weather system
    REPLY: (by ElectricSheep) May 20 2018 8:02am
    *lack of community at the momentosphere; I love autocorrect *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by Teemo) May 20 2018 7:28pm
    1) I think it's very important that there's no breeding. I get very attached to my horses and probably would not play a game that had a life cycle of horses.

    2) Chat, Competition, Horse Improvement, WildHorseHunting, AdventureGathering, NPC/Quests, Puzzles, Ranch Building, Crafting

    3) My favorite part of HI1 is just how easy it is to play the game and how easy it is for newer players to get into it. It's very straight forward.

    4) My least favorite part of HI1 is the limited number of wilds, considering the amount of breeds we have out at the moment.

    5) I tried getting into HI1, I was even in the beta testing. However, I thought it was way too complicated and way too complex to get into.
    REPLY: (by Aspen) May 21 2018 2:49pm
    1) I personally would prefer breeding, but I am also not a big collector and would understand why collectors would not want breeding. Maybe a setup like HI2, where there is a breeding server and an eternal server, would work for everyone.

    2) NPC/Quests, Crafting, Adventure/Gathering, Puzzles, Wild Horse Hunting, Competition, Horse Improvement, and Chat. Ranch building does not really apply to me because I am not a subscriber (yet).

    3) I really like being able to quest, and having an incentive to quest makes it even more enjoyable. I really want to see unlockable areas like Lava/Pirate/Cloud have a presence on HI3, as well as new items/perks like unicorns and isle-exclusive items.

    4) I feel like HI1 does not have a strong community at the momentosphere. It was better when I first played in 2008 than it is now, but that's likely due to the fact that way fewer people play HI1 now compared to 10 years ago. One constant thing I've noticed is that players will act immature/petty or disrespectful towards others, and I barely ever use the game's social features because of this.

    5) I tried making an account on HI2 a couple of years ago, but wound up quitting. I don't remember much, but I remember it being too different gameplay-wise from HI1.
    REPLY: (by Aspen) May 21 2018 2:50pm
    ^forgot to add I only play HI1. Also, what is with the "momentosphere" autocorrect?
    REPLY: (by ElectricSheep) May 21 2018 11:52pm
    I meant to say a t mosphere but I guess it autocorrects that into "at the moment". Sorry for the confusion
    REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) May 22 2018 6:51am
    That last comment made me search for all the 'momentosphere's in this thread. xD Good little chuckle out of that.
    REPLY: (by Alex) May 23 2018 5:38am
    1) I agree with Aspen. I think you should do what you did with HI2. You should make the eternal server first , and if some folks want a Life Cycle server , then you could make that later. :) I personally prefer no breeding and no death. :)


    2)Chat , Adventure/Gathering , WildHorseHunting , HorseImprovement , NPC/Quests , Competition , Puzzles , Crafting , RanchBuilding.


    3) I love the fact that there is a chat filter! *cheers* It makes HI possible for so many players. You wouldn't believe how many couldn't and wouldn't play if there wasn't a chat filter. I also am very fond of the fact that you're able to ride your horse. I have -tried- to play games that you're not able to literally enter a world and ride your horse , but it became so monotonous that I gave up and never came back again.


    4) The graphics could be improved upon , in HI1. I'm not very happy with the way wild horse hunting is set up , because , unlike HI2 , you can't see the wild horse before you just walk across it! So , that makes wild horse hunting 10X harder. XD No offense but I like seeing the horse before I walk into it. More of a chance of finding one , you know!I also think that the non subs limits are a little on the extreme side. It is hard for the players to play when there are so many things that they can't do. (I posted on Eternal Game Forums more about that subject , so I really don't want to re-post the whole long thing again here *laughing out loud!*)


    5)I am a big fan of HI , and I am really looking forward to HI3. :) But , I had an idea , could we possibly be able to jump objects out-of-jumping-and-cross-country-arenas ? It is hard (on HI2) when , for example on Plains Isle , you want to get to the other side of the hedge on the side of the main path. You have to go all the way around them. :) So , XD I think there could be some lessons learned from HI1 & HI2 , as far as improvements go. :) Thank you for your hard work , and I'm looking forward to HI3! I get the feeling that it's gonna be awesome!!!
    REPLY: (by Red) May 24 2018 1:25am
    I agree there is no chance I would play HI3 if the ridiculous chat filter is still there :)
    REPLY: (by Izenhawk) May 28 2018 11:05pm
    1) I personally prefer eternal, especially since the way that HI is set up is sort of defeats the purpose of breeding as I've played other games that were set up differently and worked better in terms of breeding.

    2) Chat, Item Hunting, Puzzles, Competition, Wild Horse Hunting are the only reasons I play, the rest do not matter to me.

    3) Wishing Coins in HI1, I love looking around for wishing coins to collect and wish on. The horse profile and naming freedom, even though we have less space to work with I love being able to use [i,u,b,colors]. The pawneer, can't go wrong with being able to pawn horses you can't sell. The chat filter, the competitions and pretty much everything else with the first one. The only part I like about HI2 is that fact that instead of a "train all" ranch training, there's an option to allow your ranch to add exp to your horses every day without you having to be on and the customization option for playing character plus horses.

    4) The new interest on HI1 is the only thing I don't like and for the most part I don't care for HI2, it lags way to much for my liking and I only go on out of boredom. There are NO wishing coins on HI2, why?

    5) I would only play HI1 if it hadn't in a sense died, so I go on HI2 to give me something to do since no one is ever rarely on my server anymore.
    REPLY: (by Alex) May 29 2018 5:30pm
    I'm not a big fan of LC (life cycle) myself. Breeding is not bad but death is really not bearable at all. You stat max these beautiful horses , for what? They'll be gone in no time. All you can do is sell them or ride them and do comps for a few months. Nah. On Eternal , you can keep your babies and max them without worrying about how old they'll be if you don't really hurry about it. Plus you won't have the heartbreak every time one dies. Yes. Eternal is definitely my favorite! :) I think HI3 should be made like Eternal. :)
    REPLY: (by Paranormality) May 29 2018 7:33pm
    1) Is the fact that there is no breeding and that horses do not die important to you? Eternal Horses vs Breeding is a big decision to be made. Please give a short answer of your preference.

    - For me, eternal horses are a must. I'm not going to spend time/effort putting experience on a horse that is simply going to die in a few days.

    2) Please order in your preference of gameplay mechanic, favorite first:
    Chat, Crafting, RanchBuilding, HorseImprovement, AdventureGathering, WildHorseHunting, Puzzles, NPC/Quests, Competition

    - Competition, Chat, Horse Improvement, Wild Horse Hunting, Ranch Building, Puzzles, NPC/Quests, Crafting

    3) Briefly, what is your favorite part of HI1/2?

    - Favourite part of HI1: Simplicity. No over the top filters. Competition is easy. Talking to friends is easy. The game is very much chat-centric, which is a plus and is why most of us still play the game, to talk to our friends. I don't know how many times that I sat on HI1 not doing anything at all and just talking to people for HOURS on end simply because it's easy and enjoyable.
    - Favourite part of Hi2: All of the different colours, the fact that markings change, the fact that you can super horses so you get to pick at least what it looks like, if not the stats. I like the wild finding part of this game too.

    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1/2?

    - For both: There's a bit that kind of bothers me. First, I don't like the fact that there's absolutely no advertising for the game, it's very simple to make ads and to deploy them - and the benefits outweigh the negatives. While the first little while you may be in the negative, with the amount of new players you get simply from advertising you'd be making a lot more money in the future. Second, I feel like a lot of our voices are not heard when updates are made or things are changed. For example: Nobody wanted Iberians to be redone when they were redone in HI1, not a single person asked for it and yet they were redone anyways. This also happened with the Irish Draughts on Hi2, nobody asked for their eyes to be "fixed" or anything of the sort - yet both of these things were went ahead with and done without asking a single player if they wanted it to change. (With this aside I REALLY liked the way you took our input for the redo of the Friesians, that was a plus in my books.) While it may be more effort to ask the players what they actually want - this is how you get a more successful and committed player-base rather than simply making decisions without any input from the players. Customers who feel heard and appreciated tend to be more loyal and will continue to come back and spend money as they feel like they are part of a family. For example - Pick 5 breeds you want to implement, take a vote, rank them 1 through 5 with 1 being the most wanted and 5 being the least wanted and implement them in that order, or something similar. Third, the filter system on HI2 is out of hand and much too extreme. This is probably going to be one of your most heard statements. However, I also don't think having an administrator going through and reading chats to be a viable way to make sure that players are following the rules. If you are implementing a filter system, make sure that anything someone can get a violation for goes through the filter. Bias is a very real thing - this can make the difference between no violations and multiple violations depending on the player, which it should not be. It should be based on the chat. Fourth, I agree with everything Theran said and give them a shoutout and would also like to state all of that at the end of this paragraph as well.

    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2?

    - Chat filters. Simplicity of competitions, nostalgia, eternal horses that have no exp limit, the "difficulty" of getting horses to 60k+ exp, some kind of challenges.

    Personal: I really hope you guys take some of this (this entire thread, I mean) into consideration as it may make or break my relationship with Horse Isle if not.

    Thanks for trying a HI3, hopefully I can get into it better than HI2.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 30 2018 1:04pm
    The following is taken from the HI3 page which is available to players to look at if you wish:

    Probably have similar chat filters, but hope to relax it when appropriate. (Hopefully reduces frustration while keeping a clean space.)

    This is not set in stone and may be altered, it's just a preliminary goal for now for HI3.

    You can see the entire page at: hi3 dot horseisle dot com
    REPLY: (by OneTuffPolkaDot) May 30 2018 7:39pm
    1) Is the fact that there is no breeding and that horses do not die important to you? Eternal Horses vs Breeding is a big decision to be made. Please give a short answer of your preference.
    -- Eternal seems better for this game.
    2) Please order in your preference of gameplay mechanic, favorite first:
    Chat, Crafting, RanchBuilding, HorseImprovement, AdventureGathering, WildHorseHunting, Puzzles, NPC/Quests, Competition
    Horse Improvement, Wild Horse Hunting, Competition, Adventure Gathering, Craft, Chat, Puzzles, Ranch Building, NPC/Quests
    3) Briefly, what is your favorite part of HI1/2?
    -- I love the gameplay of HI 1 but the horses of HI 2
    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1/2?
    -- HI2, you cant sell horses, trade, or auction unless you have a sub, I don't care for that at all
    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2?
    -- I tried HI2 but don't really play it because aside from questing there is really no way to make money without a sub, The only thing that really drew me to HI2 was the better horse art and breeding
    REPLY: (by Alex) Jun 1 2018 11:02am
    I checked hi3. horseisle . come (without the last letter) out and it's awesome! I can't wait and I'm glad you're considering letting us jump logs on the beach *laughing out loud!* and I'm glad it's gonna still have wilds in it. Amazing! I can't wait! :)
    REPLY: (by Kness) Jun 1 2018 11:53am
    Hello!

    Let me first start off by saying that I'm a player that first began my journey with HI in 2010. It was around the time of 2016 that I quit, simply because I saw that the game went a bit downhill with the lack of economic stability. After returning every few months or so to see how the game has advanced, I understand, now, why it's difficult to gauge a new user's interest and to ensure that he/she keeps playing. There is no stable money system that has been put in to ensure that everyone in the game gets a fair shot. Allow me to inquire as to why banks grant us interest, yet there are no taxes (which, like interest, would fluctuate depending on the player). By implementing this idea, the game could further educate younger players on what to expect in the real world when faced with these issues. Isn't the idea of the game to be, give or take, as realistic (/educational) as possible? If my taxing idea isn't plausible, then I suggest taking out interest altogether. I don't feel that it's fair that a wealthy player can rack up interest, while the newer players are struggling.

    That being said, I might be the odd one out of the bunch, but I actually like that HI2 does not have a whisperer. I feel as though that gives each player an equal chance of finding a "more valuable" wild horse. It also ensures that more time will be invested in the game, because more time must be spent in order to find them. I believe that the game will have a higher appeal if the things that we, as a community, consider to be more valuable are harder to come across.

    As a user that no longer plays either game, I would love to see these ideas implemented into HI3 so that I could find new love for a game that I previously have become disinterested in.
    REPLY: (by Dapples) Jun 6 2018 4:43pm
    1) Is the fact that there is no breeding and that horses do not die important to you? Eternal Horses vs Breeding is a big decision to be made. Please give a short answer of your preference.
    I would prefer an option to make horses remain immortal, because I grew attached to many of my horses in Horse Isle, but I would like to be able to breed horses at the same time, so I'd be willing to let some horses have a life cycle to make up for that and prevent overpopulation.

    2) I've always loved the Chat/Adding Buddies option! It is something that kept me coming back to Horse Isle in the first place.
    Chat, WildHorseHunting, Competition, HorseImprovement, RanchBuilding, Puzzles, NPC/Quests, Crafting

    3) I love the communities on both games, but on Horse Isle 1 I love that I have so much left on the game that remains as long as my account does. The horses I worked hard with and for are still there and improved as I originally left them. I wasn't able to keep my ranch, because I played Horse Isle 2 more. On Horse Isle 2, I really enjoy the chatting feature. The compeitions are fun, but I have met a lot of great buddies who had been on Eternal server, that had come from Horse Isle 1.

    4) My least favourite part of HI1/2 would have to be the lack of active players. I would love to refer players again, but a lot of the original players are sadly grown up and moved on.

    5) N/A
    REPLY: (by BlackRose) Jun 7 2018 5:09pm
    1) Eternal horses would be my preference. I've done the breeding/aging/dying thing on a few other games, and it gets tedious. There's only so much effort you can put into them before they're gone, it's one of the reasons I like HI1's eternal horses so much. There's literally all the time in the world to work with them.

    2) NPC/Quests, Wild Horse Hunting, Puzzles, Horse Improvement, Adventure Gathering, Crafting, Competition, Ranch Building, Chat

    3) For HI1, I love all of the quests and the availability of wild horses. One of the only things I like about HI2 is the fact that you can look at your quests in progress. I have to copy things down in Notepad on HI1 so I don't forget what I'm doing if I quit before I'm done with my quest(s).

    4) For HI2, I don't like how hard it is to find wild horses, how hard it is to actually get the character to move in the right direction, or how the buildings are. It's simpler in HI1, just click on the character's name and talk to them, instead of having to go into that little circle, then over to the character, then finally talk to them once you've found the right one.

    5) Overall, I like how HI1 is set up. I've come and gone a few times over the years (my first profile was made back when I was in middle school, and I played for quite a few years before life got busy and it got deleted for inactivity), and I keep coming back because I like how things are arranged. Quests for whoever wants to do them, competitions if you want to compete, little puzzles if you're looking for a challenge...there's something that can appeal to anyone, and it's not something you'd need a guide just to figure out how to play. I agree with some other players, that if HI3 is more like HI2, I probably won't bother with it and just keep playing HI1.
    REPLY: (by Aetheria) Jun 7 2018 9:27pm
    1) Prefer Eternal horses.

    2) NPC/Quests, Wild Horse Hunting, Horse Improvement, Chat, Competition, Adventure Gathering, Ranch Building, Puzzles, Crafting.

    3) Whispering horses on HI1 is my absolute favourite thing. Artwork on HI2 and I like the questing system on both games.

    4) The chat system - I was okay with HI1's, HI2s felt ridiculous in how strict it was. I also prefer the global chat option of HI1 - HI2 can feel very isolated if you're questing and have no buds on. Accounts timing out on HI1 is very unpleasant though - wish there was a way to put a hold on them.

    5) I've been on the game so long that I felt not continuing to play would be a waste of the time put into it. I enjoy collecting horses the most and felt like whispering and finding good horses just felt more satisfying on HI1. Also preferred how horses were exp trained - felt like you could really accomplish something without needing to be rich or having the best possible tack. I feel like the advantages that certain things (money, tack, horses etc) were too heavily weighted over skill in HI2 - for example, while having more expensive tack should of course give you an advantage, it shouldn't make it nearly impossible for lesser to tack to win (or maybe that's just how I felt haha)

    Awesome to hear about an HI3 - I can't wait to give it a go!
    REPLY: (by Frappe) Jun 8 2018 12:24am
    At the risk of sounding entitled, lazy or any other adjective referring to laziness, I want to know if there will be any compensation for HI1 players moving to HI3. I have spent innumerable hours working on here to get all I have now, so it's not as if I want anything for free. My problem is, even though I want to support HI3 as much I do HI1, I have very little time to dedicate to a game. At the moment the only reason I continue here is because of what I've achieved on the game, be it money, horses or anything else. Leaving all my hard earned horses and stuff will not be worth it, and I will not be able to get a start on HI3 due to aforementioned lack of time. So, any chance of some sort of ''redress'' for players from here? Sorry if this post makes no sense, I'm fast asleep.
    REPLY: (by Viktor) Jun 8 2018 12:44am
    Some sort of loyalty bonus would be so nice. I've had this account for 9? 10? years, I would appreciate that counting for something in the new game. It would definitely help encourage the current playerbase to migrate.
    REPLY: (by Alex) Jun 12 2018 3:54pm
    I agree with Viktor. That would be nice. :)
    REPLY: (by Alex) Jun 12 2018 3:56pm
    Add to that :)


    I am actually not a player that has been here for a long while. I play HI2, and I've only been there for a little over a year. But I definitely think that if someone has been so loyal and faithful to Horse Isle for so many years, they should be rewarded with at least a thank you note. :) Great idea, Viktor! That would be nice with HI2 also.
    REPLY: (by Haunter) Jun 16 2018 4:50pm
    What Viktor said would definitely be a pull factor for me to the new game, just a bit of appreciation to the "older" players that have been around for a while and have kinda helped keep this game running.
    REPLY: (by SilverBeauty) Jun 25 2018 7:35am
    1) Is the fact that there is no breeding and that horses do not die important to you? Eternal Horses vs Breeding is a big decision to be made. Please give a short answer of your preference.
    Eternal for me! While the idea of breeding is cool, I get very attached to my horses and would hate to see them die.

    2) Please order in your preference of gameplay mechanic, favorite first:
    Chat, Crafting, RanchBuilding, HorseImprovement, AdventureGathering, WildHorseHunting, Puzzles, NPC/Quests, Competition
    Chat, NPC/Quests, AdventureGathering,WildHorseHunting, Horse Improvement, Puzzles, Competition,Crafting

    3) Briefly, what is your favorite part of HI1/2?
    I actually really like the graphics of HI1. They are super simple but I love them. Questing and wilds are also the best bit about the game for me.

    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1/2?
    I don't like the chat filter in HI1. Many of us have being playing for years now and we are all adults so it is frustrating to have such strict rules blocking our conversations.
    I don't like how isolating HI2 felt. The lack of global chats made you very alone when starting out and like you were the only one playing. It was frustrating to not view people like you do on HI1, or to talk as freely. I also strongly dislike the graphics of walking around in Horse Isle 2, as I thought the looked poorly designed in comparison to HI1.

    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2?
    HI2 was way too confusing and isolating for me to stay.
    REPLY: (by TrinaTrotnot) Jul 6 2018 12:16pm
    Favorite things: Bright colors of environment, Quests, stumbling upon a wild horse, beautiful art, great music

    Breeding would be fantastic along with educational. It should go by factual information from color genetics in horses.
    Horses are not eternal in real life and shouldn't be in a game. Everyone enjoys new toys and challenges. One way to soften the blow is to age horses, i.e. horses become "senior" after 1 real year (or pick your time) at which time their max performance is not as good even though their stats can still be good. Horses can cross the rainbow bridge after being senior for some specific period of time, thus mentally preparing the player for the eventual. Having their progeny in your horse herd is a great way to remember the original.
    REPLY: (by TrinaTrotnot) Jul 6 2018 12:22pm
    oops, P.S.
    I don't play HI2 because the colors are dull and muddy and depressing.
    I would vote for simple graphics and staying away from complex 3-D (maybe limit it to certain areas like cave mazes).
    I'm afraid the additional computing power needed would make the game inaccessible to some and laggy for everyone. You don't really want to have to purchase Cray computers for your servers!
    REPLY: (by Alex) Jul 23 2018 12:16pm
    1) Eternal is great! I don't like my horses dying.

    2)Chat, Ranches, AdventureGathering, HorseImprovement, NPC/Quests, Competitions,Puzzles, WildHorseHunting, Crafting

    3)My favorite part of HI1... the chat filter. My favorite part of HI2 is our profiles! I think that is super important. If we didn't have profiles, you couldn't really know what the player that you're considering adding is like. Profiles are a great way to get to know each other's personality. I also love the wide screen that covers the computer. It's not as eye straining as HI1.

    4) My least favorite part of HI1 is the graphics and you can't "fullscreen" it. I additionally don't like the fact that you can't see a wild horse before you walk over it. It's so much harder to find them that way.
    My least favorite part of HI2 is the inflation. There is no way we should be able to sell sub tokens for such high prices as everyone is. The greed of some of the players is overwhelming. So, maybe for HI3, consider a price limit on some of the more valuable items. Specifically, tokens. Thank you!😊

    5) HI3 is going to be great! I love 3-D games and I know this will be the best. PLEASE keep the chat filter. And maybe if possible, make it non-download? At least launch a web version, please. Thanks! I know I'm posting this rather late. Sorry about that. Thank you to all the people who are working to make HI3 possible. You're awesome!
    REPLY: (by NichiMe) Jul 30 2018 4:47pm
    HI1 aspects are best because:

    simple game play/graphics/execution
    cheery/fun/pretty music
    challenging quests
    small amounts of money in-game spending allowed)
    talking to other real people
    no breeding or customizing horses or death
    realistic banking/investing experiences
    fun times
    REPLY: (by StarWarsTrekkie) Aug 1 2018 4:05pm
    1) I love eternal. I haven't tried Life Cycle on HI2 yet because I don't want them to die!!
    2) WildHorseHunting, Crafting, RanchBuilding, NPC/Quests, AdventureGathering, HorseImprovement, Competition, and Puzzles dead last
    3) HI1: The improved economy, chatting with buds/random conversations in global chat
    HI2: The diversity of objects, the more customization options
    4) HI1: I can't think of my least favorite part at the moment…
    HI2: You can't seem to do much as a non-subscriber… the trading is a big thing for me. That and the horses travel SO MUCH SLOWER than in HI1. I don't play much just because of that.
    REPLY: (by WolfKay) Aug 7 2018 1:05pm
    I’m a bit late to the party but I still wanted to contribute as the thought of a HI3 and HI1/HI2 not dying has made me so happy :D


    1) Is the fact that there is no breeding and that horses do not die important to you? Eternal Horses vs Breeding is a big decision to be made. Please give a short answer of your preference.
    -I love the breeding in LC but think I opt for eternal horses overall.
    *
    2) Please order in your preference of gameplay mechanic, favorite first:
    Chat, Crafting, RanchBuilding, HorseImprovement, AdventureGathering, WildHorseHunting, Puzzles, NPC/Quests, Competition
    -Exploring, gathering, wild horse hunting, competition and horse improvement, questing, crafting, puzzles and chat
    *
    3) Briefly, what is your favorite part of HI1/2?
    -Hard to say, I just know that Horse isle has been the only game I’ve ever kept coming back to even after 11 years. I’d have to say just the world in general. Although I LOVE the customisation of Hi2, the only thing I miss when playing HI1; the different tack, companions and diverse coat colours :)
    *
    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1/2?
    -Nothing really comes to mind right now.

    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2?
    REPLY: (by WolfKay) Aug 7 2018 1:08pm
    And I forgot a question.

    5) If you only play Hi1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2?
    - I have an account for LC and do play there sometimes although it’s just never won me over the same as HI1. I guess having simplicity in some places works but the complexity of HI2 just makes it that little more interesting (for the short-term, however)
    REPLY: (by WolfKay) Aug 7 2018 1:10pm
    And I forgot a question.

    5) If you only play Hi1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2?
    - I have an account for LC and do play there sometimes although it’s just never won me over the same as HI1. I guess having simplicity in some places works but the complexity of HI2 just makes it that little more interesting (for the short-term, however)
    REPLY: (by WolfKay) Aug 7 2018 1:10pm
    And I forgot a question.

    5) If you only play Hi1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2?
    - I have an account for LC and do play there sometimes although it’s just never won me over the same as HI1. I guess having simplicity in some places works but the complexity of HI2 just makes it that little more interesting (for the short-term, however)
    REPLY: (by MellyMonster) Aug 16 2018 5:04am
    1) Is the fact that there is no breeding and that horses do not die important to you? Eternal Horses vs Breeding is a big decision to be made. Please give a short answer of your preference.
    * I won't be playing HI3, so N/A*

    2) Please order in your preference of gameplay mechanic, favorite first:
    Chat, Crafting, RanchBuilding, HorseImprovement, AdventureGathering, WildHorseHunting, Puzzles, NPC/Quests, Competition
    *NPC/Quests, Competition, Puzzles, Chat*

    3) Briefly, what is your favorite part of HI1/2?
    HI1 is my childhood game, I never enjoyed HI2. I love the simplicity of HI1 - you don't see any games like it.

    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1/2?
    HI2 is simply too kiddish.

    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2?
    Because it's the best...obviously!
    REPLY: (by Serigala) Aug 25 2018 11:45pm
    Super late to the party, but finally was directed to forums for info!

    1) Is the fact that there is no breeding and that horses do not die important to you? Eternal Horses vs Breeding is a big decision to be made. Please give a short answer of your preference.

    Definitely eternal! It would be heartbreaking if I invested all of my time into something only to have it die a few days later.

    I also think that it would be pretty cool if each player was able to breed two of their horses together once only (and once per pair) to achieve a single offspring that would be account bound. (or not, depending on how the system would work)

    2) Please order in your preference of gameplay mechanic, favorite first:
    Chat, Crafting, RanchBuilding, HorseImprovement, AdventureGathering, WildHorseHunting, Puzzles, NPC/Quests, Competition

    Chat primarily, NPC/Questing, Adventure/Gathering, Competition/Horse Hunting (I can't decide which would be first) followed by everything else.

    3) Briefly, what is your favorite part of HI1/2?

    I love the vintage look to the original game! It's very straight forward when you're getting into it, and the gameplay itself is very easy to get into. Not to mention that there is literally something for every player. I can't really name what exactly it is that I love so much about the game, but it's one of a kind.

    4) Briefly, what is your least favorite part of HI1/2?

    Primarily the chat restrictions. As many of the other players above have stated, (and as has been stated on the hi3 site) it's difficult to have a conversation some days as a majority of us are 18+. A little ease on this would go far in the appreciation category.

    Secondly would be interest. I love the way that interest works in HI, and love that the new interest rates are essentially non existent, but for a new player in the economy it would be nice if there were a larger interest rate for say, a period of a week or so that builds up some money for them to be established. Either that or have an automatic "Horseisle Welcome" basket of sorts that has a default amount larger than the one we currently have and coordinates to a wild horse that would be willing to travel with you and account bound if so desired.

    5) If you only play HI1, what was the reason you stayed here instead of playing HI2?

    I did actually attempt to play HI2. Exactly once.

    Everything was too much and too over the top. None of the charm that I loved about HI1 was present, and getting into the gameplay was essentially impossible. Also because I've been playing HI1 since its release in 2007! I wouldn't ever leave for anything.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 2 2018 12:24pm
    Post deleted.

    Please watch using all caps, it's considered shouting, and not really allowed...

    Also, while it's a few months later for HI2 LC horses life span, it's still painful for those who invest a lot in horses whether emotionally or training, etc.

    It's why we have the 2 games/2 different ways to play. :)

    It's already been stated HI3 will offer both ways.

    Thankies.
    REPLY: (by Granny) Sep 10 2018 3:43am
    I won't fill out a form, simply because everything is stated above. One of the many things I like about HI1 over HI2 (I have both accounts) is the fact that you can loose your subscription, be over your allowed horse limit and STILL be able to ride a horse.
    Trying to get anywhere in HI2 without a horse is an absolute nightmare when your sub has run out! (Pretty sure I'm in the middle of nowhere on my HI2 account, without a sub and over the horse limit at the moment too ahah)
    REPLY: (by Kattzklawzz) Sep 24 2018 6:33am
    I prefer HI1 to HI2 for a more sentimental reason.

    My oldest daughter and I started on HI back before HI2 was released. I remember when alot of the items that players are used to know were released in game.

    I have come back to Horse Isle because my youngest daughter has been wanting a horse game to play and since my laptop had an issue installing one I knew there would be no issue with Horse Isle and my laptop.

    by the way, the youngest is over the moon ecstatic about the game and I've been reintroducing myself to the quests as it had been since 2010 I had logged in previously.I have been traveling to the new isle that have been added since the time period I have been busy irl. HI1 I believe is easier for younger ones to learn to play. It didn't take long for my youngest to figure out how to ride a horse. *laughing out loud!*

    I've trying HI2 and meh. I'm partial to HI1. When the new one is released I'll give it a try. I just hope the younger ones are remembered, which knowing Joe and Miranda they will be, and there will be quests youngers can do until they get the hang of how the game works.

    Miranda and Joe, your creative genius shows with how thoughtful you created each version. Jenny's horse art is simply great. I have missed all of it and glad to be back.
    REPLY: (by Aurora) Oct 18 2018 3:43am
    all i ask is that the player can dab or dance please.
    REPLY: (by Shockerz) Nov 3 2018 6:49pm
    1) Personally, I prefer Eternal. I like knowing that the time and game money I put into my horses will be everlasting.

    2) NPC/Quests, Competition, Chat, Wild Horse Hunting, Puzzles, Ranch Building, Adventure Gathering, Horse Improvement, Crafting

    3) HI1 - I love Questing! I also love the interest you can earn from the bank and money from the windmills at your ranch.

    4) HI1 - Some of the chat restrictions are a little over the top, I understand this game is meant for younger players and I absolutely respect every aspect of trying to keep the players safe, but as an older player, it is a little...much? However, as stated, I understand why the rules are the way they are and will continue to respect them!

    5) HI2 is a little too in-depth for what I wanted as a casual player. I was already familiar with everything on HI before HI2 came out and never felt a real desire to leave the comfort of HI. It's a simple, but intriguing game that I can log on and log off as needed. I know most of the ins and outs of it and find not having to think TOO hard over something refreshing (unless it's a new quest, because I love those :) ).
    REPLY: (by Whitefang) Nov 4 2018 12:28pm
    1) Eternal. Not much interest garnered in working on improving a horse if it just dies.
    , AdventureGathering, , Puzzles, NPC/Quests, Competition rking on improving a horse if it just dies.

    2) Wild Horse Hunting, Chat, Horse Improvement, Competitions, Ranch Building, Puzzles, Adventure Gathering, NPC/Quests.

    3) Conciseness. It's simple, to the point, yet has everything it needs to be a good game. Having simplified gameplay so that you don't have to worry what kind of computer you're playing on is nice, while having gorgeous horse art.

    4) It felt like it took forever to get anywhere in HI2. In HI1, in a town, a few lefts/rights and ups/downs got you to where you needed to be. Meanwhile I could spend a solid 5-10 minutes trying to find one building in an HI2 town. It was what immediately turned me off from HI2. Everything was too big and took far too long to get anywhere in.

    5) Travel time and simplicity. It didn't take too long to get anywhere in HI1. HI2 felt like a burden to have to do anything in.
    REPLY: (by Darian) Nov 4 2018 2:08pm
    1. I like the breeding aspect getting to learn about color genetics and such. Howeever I really dislike that you can put hours into a horse and have them die.

    2. Horse improvement, competitions, wild horse hunting, ranch building, puzzles, NPC/Questing, adventure gathering.

    3. HI1 - I love the different types of competitions you can enter into. HI2(LC) I love the breeding aspect and the artwork of the game.

    4. I dislike the chat restrictions on both games. I even more dislike that HI2 has everything built to be verified by a dictionary.

    5. EXPing your horses seem easier and your horses don't pass away. I personally only liked HI2 for the breeding purposes, was never able to fully get into the eternal verision.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 5 2018 12:43pm
    There will be an option to have Eternal horses on HI3. Not sure how it's going to be handled just yet, but that option will be there. So you can have breeding and/or eternal horses.

    There are options for horse improvement, competitions, ranches, infinite wilds, etc.

    The chat restrictions will be different with options for chat types you can choose. Obviously some words are going to be blocked... But there will be much less restrictions on HI3 if you wish. You chose.

    Might wish to check out the HI3 site. HI3 dot horseisle dot com :)
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 27 2018 11:43pm
    Talk about loaded questions DP! I do understand both eternal vs breeding, but if I had to pic, it'd be eternal.

    Chat, AdventureGathering, NPC/Quests, Puzzles, RanchBuilding, WildHorseHunting,HorseImprovement,Crafting, Competition

    I think you know the reason that I stayed On HI 1 DP. The quests on ET or LC can be more time consuming and I usually forget where I left off on them so not good.
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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: HI3 Updates
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 9 2018 7:38pm
    Update today with another video preview. :)

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    New video posted today regarding competitions. :)
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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Leasing horses - Potential 'Trade' Option
    REPLY: (by Statistic) Oct 19 2018 5:12am
    Not sure if this has ever been talked about, im sure it has, but i think there should be an option to Lease a horse from one player to another with the options of Leasing the horse for 6hrs, 12hrs, 24hrs and 48hrs. This would be very helpful for EXP and stat "Trainers" and would erase any issues of "You sold my horse", "Their account is inactive and now i lost my horse" etc.
    REPLY: (by Mesteno) Oct 19 2018 6:05pm
    I do agree that is a wonderful idea, they did implement that into Horse Isle 2 i believe and probably will in Horse Isle 3. As much as i would love to see it put here too, with Horse Isle 3 in progress and Joe probably up to his eyeballs in code work I dont see them having the time to do this for us anytime soon. But if it CAN be done i am definitely for it!
    REPLY: (by SwanSong) Oct 19 2018 7:05pm
    Locking since we have been told for a long time now that new programming cannot be added since the game is maxed. Part of the reason for HI2 was to be able to do things that cannot be added here. Also, with the work now on HI3 the updates we do get will not be as frequent due to the hours of work being done on that game.

    From the Game Content locked thread in the General Forum:

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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 7 2013 5:16pm
    1) The game is maxed. So no new barns, no new anything.

    The ONLY things at this point that can and will be added in are a new breeds, new companions and new quests from time to time. Period.

    Nothing else CAN be added in it's not possible. The game is maxed. I'm sorry if you don't like this, but noting can be done. Because of this HI2 was created. So if you wish to continue playing on HI1 you most certainly may do so and are welcome!

    However please do not expect it to be updated as often as it has been in the past.

    Do not expect new things such as barns, or any other new content besides the horses, companions and quests.

    We can't add more colors it's not possible. [DELETE POST]
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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 7 2013 8:22pm
    Maxed means no new programming can be added in. HI1 is programmed in the old Adobe Flash php programming language and it's pretty much a block of programming. That is the core programming. Nothing more can be added to that as it has reached it's limit. Adding more crashes the game.

    HI2 is programmed in the modulated new Adobe Flash php which can be updated.

    So HI1 can have a few peripheral things: horses, companions and quests. Other than that there really isn't much if anything that can be added in. Nor can things be altered as it's all mixed in together.
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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: HI3 Beta clarification
    REPLY: (by Pathfinder) Mar 14 2019 12:33pm
    Hi,

    For those of you who don't know me - I'm Pathfinder, and I'm one of the HI team members who work on HI2 and HI3.

    Many players in HI2 asked us (the team) various questions about the HI3 beta phase, so here are some answers which might interest you as well:

    1) Registration to the HI3 Beta is via the HI3 site, not the HI2 site.

    2) The plan is that, gradually, more and more players will join the Beta phase. The admins are the ones who decide when Beta is open for registration. It's your responsibility to check the HI3 website from now on. :)

    Good luck,

    Pathfinder
    REPLY: (by Pathfinder) Mar 31 2019 2:43pm
    For all of those who want to know more about what the breeds in HI3 look like - you can now do that. Visit the HI3 site for more info. :)
    REPLY: (by Tranquility) Apr 28 2019 1:01pm
    Any chance emails could be sent out before you open sign ups? I check the website every day but I'm not in the USA so always seem to be sleeping when they happen. If an email was sent out I'd wake with the notification. I'm not really sure why I've signed up for email alerts when we don't get any...
    REPLY: (by Tranquility) Apr 28 2019 1:29pm
    I realise that came across as annoyed, I'm not, I just really want to sign up for beta :)
    REPLY: (by Granny) Apr 30 2019 6:39am
    Email alerts are for major updates with the game (HI3), not for sign ups (I'm 99% sure as I never received one, and I am HI3 Alpha tester) I am in the UK, so I know what you mean about missing the sign ups due to the time difference. My only advice would be to make the HI3 page your 'start up page' kinda thing, so it's the first thing you'll see when you open Chrome/Firefox etc, that's how I got in. Just keep checking back :D
    REPLY: (by DesertWind) Apr 30 2019 12:54pm
    Email's are not being sent out at this time. The notifications are for major updates and probably won't begin until open Beta. Even then, they will be rare. Horse Isle will not be spamming people with mail. You can check the HI3 web page for what's happening if you wish that info. :)

    Jor is getting ready for open Beta at this time. I don't know if announcements will go out at that time or not since it's not really important who joins first... It will be open Beta. Sign up when you get to it. And again, you can check the HI3 page if you want to know if it's open yet or not.

    The game will probably not go live for some time yet, there is still a Lot of work to be done.

    Request: Please remember Beta is for testing. It's not a way to play the game early. It's to test this here and that there, to see if it breaks, to see if it is buggy, etc.

    Beta may be completely wiped off and on so whatever you have done will be lost. Again, it's for testing not playing. You play as you test obviously, but only in some areas, many things won't be working. The game will be down off and on, sometimes for quite a while. There will be re-boots frequently.

    Once the game does go live nothing will be moved from Beta over to the regular game, and Beta will most likely be completely wiped. Meaning everything will be lost/gone.

    Do not expect things to always work properly. This is the whole point of Beta, to find out what doesn't work when and then fix it. Much of the content isn't in yet. There is still a Lot of work to do before the game is in any shape to go live. :)
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    REPLY: (by Pathfinder) May 5 2019 6:25am
    You can now create an account on HI3.

    Note:
    64bit Windows Only. we do not support Mac or Linux yet (Plan to).

    Game is in Beta state with incomplete features, bugs and many resets, must be patient and able to Not Get Frustrated with lack of support, etc.

    Your account with everything will be reset and lost several times before Live, this means any horses, or accomplishments will be lost. Feel free to signup for an account at top, click create account!
    REPLY: (by Glacier) May 19 2019 9:55pm
    Is there an estimate on when Macs would be supported? So many of my friends and I want to play but can't.
    REPLY: (by DesertWind) May 20 2019 1:21pm
    Not at this time. First it needs to work well in Windows and there are still some issues popping up.

    Sorry
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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Re: Lag in competitions
    REPLY: (by DesertWind) May 22 2019 1:43pm
    Some players have slow Internet speeds, nothing they can do about that. Others have fast Internet speeds, cool.

    There are 3 jumping arenas players may go to, basically 4, but one of those is expensive...

    So, there is Earton, Whitherton and Tropicton which are regular price and Equestrian Arena for expensive comps.

    If someone is experiencing lag in one area and you don't like that you are free to go to a different arena.

    Now, if someone is following you from arena to arena to deliberately cause lag for others thus ruining the fun for others then we have a problem, and this is indeed against the rules.

    Slow Internets, old computers which unfortunately cause lag are not against the rules.

    Bottom line: Deliberately ruining the fun for others and blocking others from having the ability to compete anywhere in the game is against the rules.

    Experiencing lag that you can't control when there are other arena's available is not against the rules.
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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Pawn all button
    REPLY: (by Xion) Jun 26 2019 11:29pm
    Can we please consider getting a pawn all button my poor dear old clicking finger has now received a repetitive strain injury from clicking each horse to pawn.

    I had to type this with my toes, i fear soon they will get repetitive damage from clicking 'Pawn Horse' soon too. *sob*
    REPLY: (by Challenger) Jun 26 2019 11:30pm
    Please! My fingers will be thankful
    REPLY: (by Ange) Jun 26 2019 11:31pm
    Same
    REPLY: (by DesertWind) Jun 27 2019 12:49pm
    Previously the owners have stated they really did not wish to do this.

    Reason: Once a horse is pawned it's permanently removed from the game. With a Pawn All button players would be accidentally hitting it and pawning horses they wished to keep.

    Also many planers do not wish to use the selections we have for that reason, example being they put horses they want to keep in trading frequently and sell horses in keepers... So with a lot of horses, it's super easy to have horses you truly wish to keep mixed in with horses you want to sell or trade. You just bought that horse you've been wanting for years but forget to move it out of trading... Now it's gone.

    Basically either all horses on your account would have to be pawned or all horses in a category which would be "Trading." Yet many players don't use Trading for trading so... And when you purchase a horse it automatically goes in Trading. Thus as previously stated you have the horse you just purchased with the horses you are pawning...

    If I remember correctly we can't really add another category as that goes to core programming which on HI1 is maxed out.

    Too great a chance for hitting the wrong button. Even now players sometimes ask if a horse can be replaced as they accidentally pawned it. And unfortunately it can't be.

    My only suggestion is visit the Pawneer more often so you don't have so many to pawn all at once. I realize this is not a "solution" but it's the best I have, sorry.
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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Is the game still maintained?
    REPLY: (by Leporine) Sep 12 2019 7:04am
    I know most of the attention will be on hi2 and hi3 at the moment, but are there still mods/maintenance going on for hi1? I'll be honest, I prefer the simple 2D aesthetic of hi1 and would hate to see it go.
    REPLY: (by Desertmorn) Sep 14 2019 9:51am
    I pop on now and then. Still developing quests for the game. There should be an update within the next couple of months. :)
    REPLY: (by Everlend) Sep 20 2019 12:39pm
    There are still some mods that pop in now and again :).
    REPLY: (by MellyMonster) Sep 23 2019 3:03am
    There are still mods, but maintenance is lacking; there are the odd quest updates/new breeds, but the game is dying out.
    REPLY: (by DesertWind) Sep 23 2019 12:23pm
    I'm around. I pop on once in a while, but there aren't many people on. As I type this there is 1 person on Black server and that's it for the entire game.

    I do keep an eye on things from the background though. *nods* *laughing out loud!*
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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Wild Horses
    REPLY: (by Gelato) Jan 20 2020 10:47pm
    Hello! I am writing on behalf of many players who still actively whisper :) I was wondering if we could get a clarification of how many total horses are out at a time? Also would there be any consideration to upping that amount duo to the sheer amount of players whispering these days? Exping is dead, so many players who have completed questing resort to whispering and things get a little clogged up sometimes. Thanks!
    REPLY: (by RockPile) Jan 25 2020 5:50am
    From the Help Center>Horses>Aquiring:

    Horses are hard to find: There are only 40 horses around the Horse Isle world.

    If players release horses, it adds th the total, and the game won't spawn any more until the count drops below 40 again.
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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: UniPeg
    REPLY: (by Savy) Feb 12 2020 8:03am
    Would it ever be possible to add a shorter time option for the UniPeg? I rarely am on for 4 hours and would LOVE it to have a 2 hour option like Unicorns and Pegs. Like 1m or 2m for 2 hours.
    Thank you for your time!
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    REPLY: (by Athena) Feb 12 2020 8:12am
    Yessss Sav!
    REPLY: (by ScarletMood) Feb 12 2020 8:14am
    Brilliant idea Sav!
    REPLY: (by MellyMonster) Feb 22 2020 2:09am
    Great idea x
    REPLY: (by Savy) Feb 23 2020 9:36am
    Bump
    REPLY: (by Red) Mar 20 2020 12:48am
    Bump! <3
    REPLY: (by Arvella) Apr 2 2020 10:25pm
    ahh yes!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 3 2020 12:59pm
    At this time the owners are not addressing HI1 or 2. They are focusing on HI3 content.

    Probably sometime in September, once they know what will happen with Flash access, which browser(s) will allow it, etc. They will most likely do some updating, etc. to HI1 and 2. :)
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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Easter Bunny
    REPLY: (by SensibleWitch) Apr 8 2020 4:24pm
    Will we be getting Easter Bunnies this year?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 9 2020 1:36pm
    I'll see. Might not though, not sure.
    REPLY: (by CookieDough) Apr 9 2020 8:21pm
    Easter bunny is social distancing this year
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 10 2020 12:35pm
    *laughing out loud!*

    Miranda is going to try and get in. No promises though.
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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: APPRECIATION POST
    REPLY: (by Paranormality) Apr 11 2020 9:17pm
    Just wanted to let the admins and mods of this game know that I am forever appreciative of this update. I sincerely appreciate the amount of time that you guys have taken out of your schedules in order to make this update for HI1 and I have spoken to many people who are just as happy about the update and fresh content as I am. Thank you for not forgetting about us and still including us in your plans! The update is great. :)
    REPLY: (by Rayne) Apr 11 2020 9:19pm
    I second this! :) I am so happy about the update and some new content to HI1. This game has brought so many of us peace during this crazy time in the world. Thank you for not forgetting about us!
    REPLY: (by PopRocks) Apr 11 2020 9:19pm
    Yes, thank you so much!
    REPLY: (by Aria) Apr 11 2020 9:21pm
    Ditto! I remember hearing that SpottedRose's hard drive had died and she had lost access to the program to draw HI breeds. So glad to see a new breed today and new quests! Thank you for not abandoning this game :)
    REPLY: (by Crocs) Apr 11 2020 9:23pm
    Yes, thank you so much for the game update! We all love and appreciate it! <3
    REPLY: (by Kagomo) Apr 11 2020 9:27pm
    Agreed! Thank you so much for updating and taking time out of your lives to add new content for us. I'm forever grateful. It's a crazy time and Horseisle has brought me some peace and distraction from the anxiety brought on by everything going on in the world right now. Thank you so, so much, and I hope all of you are doing well. <3
    REPLY: (by FishyRain) Apr 11 2020 10:19pm
    Thank you so so so so so much for this update! I know you guys have been busy with hi3, and this update was a wonderful surprise! Thank you for taking time out of your schedules to put out this update!
    REPLY: (by FishyRain) Apr 11 2020 10:27pm
    Thank you so so so so so much for this update! I know you guys have been busy with hi3, and this update was a wonderful surprise! Thank you for taking time out of your schedules to put out this update!
    REPLY: (by Crocs) Apr 11 2020 10:29pm
    Yes, thank you so much for the game update! We all love and appreciate it! <3
    REPLY: (by Kagomo) Apr 11 2020 10:53pm
    Agreed! Thank you so much for updating and taking time out of your lives to add new content for us. I'm forever grateful. It's a crazy time and Horseisle has brought me some peace and distraction from the anxiety brought on by everything going on in the world right now. Thank you so, so much, and I hope all of you are doing well. <3
    REPLY: (by SensibleWitch) Apr 12 2020 7:25pm
    Yes! Thanks to Miranda and the team
    REPLY: (by ToridaJay) Apr 12 2020 8:42pm
    It's so nice to still have time put into this game so thank you! :)
    REPLY: (by Bree) Apr 13 2020 6:09pm
    Yep, thank you!
    REPLY: (by Marisol) Apr 17 2020 7:25am
    Yes, thank you! I really appreciate the effort that the moderators,admins and game creators Joe and Miranda still put into this game - it's a fun game to play for people of any age, both younger and older and their hard work is very much appreciated :)I love this game!
    REPLY: (by Hedwig) Apr 18 2020 1:29pm
    Amen to this! You guys are doing an *amazing* job. Thank you for keeping this game going!
    REPLY: (by Everlend) Apr 18 2020 11:21pm
    I agree! Thank you all for the wonderful update :)!
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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: More Simple Jump Arenas
    REPLY: (by FlyingSolo) Apr 26 2020 11:57am
    I know they're focusing primarily on HI3 right now but I know I can speak for many others on HI1 when I say we really need more simple jump arenas. The three now are always full. Adding another two or at least one would be greatly appreciated since so many are playing right now!
    REPLY: (by Allrianne) Apr 27 2020 5:29pm
    Sadly, this game will no longer be available come December 2020. Flash will be shutting down and there will be no other way to play. That is, unless they decide to move this game onto another format or something. With the majority of their income coming from HI3, I don't think HI1 will make the cut at the end of the year. So it is very unlikely that we will receive anymore updates, especially something as big as another jumping arena. Remember, this game has been around for over 10 years and there has never been more than 3. This is what it was like years ago. They didn't add to it back when HI1 was the one and only. Once quarantine is over, I think that game will go back to the way it was a few months ago. Max of 10-15 players on at a time....
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 28 2020 1:18pm
    Flash is not shutting down. It will be around, just not supported.

    There are rumors that some of the browsers will allow Flash, they won't support it as in update it, but they will allow it.

    There are No plans to close the games.

    That said, I don't think Joe has any plans to add more content of that kind to the game. It's very old and a bit fussy. *laughing out loud!*

    We will know more later in the year. There are still plans to add new content such as quests, horses and companions. But not as often and we are also waiting a bit to see what all happens with Flash and browsers... :)
    REPLY: (by Kacchan) Apr 28 2020 2:48pm
    I agree it's nearly impossible to get in.
    REPLY: (by Koda) Apr 29 2020 6:19am
    I agree. Would be extremely helpful.
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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: EQ Park suggestions??
    REPLY: (by Cobber) May 21 2020 3:25pm
    EQ park seems to be sprouting cobwebs despite it being a main isle town with arenas and facilities. Is there any way of swapping out maybe 1 draft arena for another simple jump? Or If any other users have any suggestions on how to spice up EQ park leave a reply :)
    REPLY: (by Epica) May 21 2020 3:33pm
    With so many people playing right now there are times where it's impossible to get into any of the 3 SJ arenas. Switching one of the EQ park arenas to SJ would be awesome! Especially since that area really isn't used at all.
    REPLY: (by Fascination) May 25 2020 8:01am
    This would be so great! Such a shame that EQ Park is not used right now...
    REPLY: (by PeachyKeen) May 25 2020 2:12pm
    I would love for an sj arena to be added! My ranch is now right down the way so I might be a bit biased in my opinion but I would love to see some action there again. :) Great suggestion!
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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Magic Residue
    REPLY: (by Smaug) May 25 2020 7:14am
    Hello There!

    I know this is a subject we've spoken about in the past, but I think as this point with the games "well-being", for lack of a better term, it would be more conscious of the players to just ask for the "Magic Residue" counter to be withdrawn entirely instead of asking again for a "Residue Eraser".

    I was reading on the previous comment made by DesertPaint that it was a way for players to see if a horse has a "track record". The point of a track record would be to see what pellets were used when they were used, and what changes they made. I feel that if that was the purpose, then it does not really serve that purpose and thus makes it pointless.

    From some of the news recently, it seems like erasing the residue counter would be an easier fix than re-coding an entirely new pellet and trying to implement it in the game.

    Thank you for taking the time to read, and I hope to hear everyone's opinion.

    Smaug - Pinto/Chestnut
    REPLY: (by Gho) May 25 2020 7:27am
    I'm kind of on the fence on it.

    I like the res counter because like it's intention - it is there for us to see if the horse has a track record. Which is useful because honestly, some of us like seeing the horse having a lot of res to remind us how much money we've spent trying to make the horse what we want it to be. Would be nice to keep that.

    On the other hand, I think removing the res counter would help the economy. Some people looking to buy horses don't like seeing the res. Erasing the counter completely would make it easier for everyone to buy horses because, well, there is no res. Though, I honestly don't know how many people look at the res counter before purchase. I do have some buds who do so.

    Just some thoughts on it. I don't know if I'm for or against it at this point in time.

    Gho - Pinto/Chestnut
    REPLY: (by Cyndaquil) May 25 2020 7:34am
    I'm one of those players who always buys things with the consideration of res, not because I don't want to colour/height things because my buds know that i'm all for pelleting, but i just don't like seeing the counter there so generally try to buy 'natural horses'.

    So I know i'd be quite happy if the residue counter was removed, because i'd start actually colouring and pelleting things again, and buying a lot more horses because I could colour and height them to the horse that I want rather than thinking 'if i colour/height' it'll potentially lower the value of the horse' for those who do consider res, like myself and i'll no longer be annoyed by the counter numbers.

    Cyndaquil - Cremello/Pinto
    REPLY: (by Ash) May 25 2020 7:46am
    100% agree. It's pointless. Res doesn't even mean anything, all it does is lower the value of the horse because players don't find it aesthetic. loI.
    REPLY: (by Ash) May 25 2020 7:51am
    100% agree. It's pointless. Res doesn't even mean anything, all it does is lower the value of the horse because players don't find it aesthetic. loI.
    REPLY: (by Ash) May 25 2020 7:51am
    100% agree. It's pointless. Res doesn't even mean anything, all it does is lower the value of the horse because players don't find it aesthetic. loI.
    REPLY: (by Willow) May 25 2020 7:51am
    I think the counter should be removed simply to help the economy.

    Some people hate residue which makes them not buy a certain horse and or value it less than what it is actually worth. I personally don't buy horses with residue simply because if I wanted to sell it in future I know I wouldn't be able to sell it for what I paid
    REPLY: (by Wanderlust) May 25 2020 7:52am
    I am personally a fan of the residue counter because it allows for more fair play. There are not a lot of players who can afford pellets, so it is unfair if someone is able to pellet their horse into "perfect height and stats" and then sell it for a much higher price than the player with no money who caught it wild but with a "little less than perfect stats."

    Pellets are great and I think it's a good thing to have them for the players who want to use them and can afford to do so. I just think that the magic residue counter keeps things a bit more even between players of different levels of wealth. Otherwise the wealthy players will have a monopoly on the top horses.

    I get it, life isn't fair! But the magic residue counter keeps things fair on the game. Players have a right to know if the horse is truly special enough it was caught that way instead of created that way with a lot of money.

    It is difficult to sell horses right now because so many people are whispering (I admit I am guilty of this), so I think that is why the magic residue topic is coming back up. It's hard to sell naturally nice horses let alone the nice horses with residue.

    Wanderlust - Pinto
    REPLY: (by Wanderlust) May 25 2020 7:55am
    I am personally a fan of the residue counter because it allows for more fair play. There are not a lot of players who can afford pellets, so it is unfair if someone is able to pellet their horse into "perfect height and stats" and then sell it for a much higher price than the player with no money who caught it wild but with a "little less than perfect stats."

    Pellets are great and I think it's a good thing to have them for the players who want to use them and can afford to do so. I just think that the magic residue counter keeps things a bit more even between players of different levels of wealth. Otherwise the wealthy players will have a monopoly on the top horses.

    I get it, life isn't fair! But the magic residue counter keeps things fair on the game. Players have a right to know if the horse is truly special enough it was caught that way instead of created that way with a lot of money.

    It is difficult to sell horses right now because so many people are whispering (I admit I am guilty of this), so I think that is why the magic residue topic is coming back up. It's hard to sell naturally nice horses let alone the nice horses with residue.

    Wanderlust - Pinto
    REPLY: (by Mrs) May 25 2020 8:03am
    I dont get why anyone wants it removed because if you use pellets I'm under the impression that you don't care about the res counter anyways. So the only reason I could think anyone who uses pellets would care is so you can sell horses without consequence of pelleting... which to me means don't pellet horses you might end up selling.

    I don't know, this is a pesonal no from me.

    Mrs - Pinto
    REPLY: (by Willow) May 25 2020 8:04am
    Interesting point Wanderlust, but each pellet cost 250m, So if you earn that money and make the horse "perfect" then you earned it. And even if it does sell for more then it was originally worth, you're going to end up losing a lot of money in the process. So even for richer players it isn't really a win at that point it was a mistake *laughing out loud!* (if you end up selling it).

    This would be harder then just removing the res counters, but i think adding a new tab next to profile, thats a history tab and it could actually show the changes, could be a more aesthetic way of doing it and also actually give insight to the changes, like on hi2. I don't know if that would help or just keep the issue the same though. So that is iffy.
    REPLY: (by Fascination) May 25 2020 8:37am
    Although I have residue that I regret, I still don't think it justifies the removal of the residue counter.

    Here are a few of my thoughts on the matter:
    1) In a game with a lot of dishonesty, I think the residue counter should remain to ensure transparency between players.
    2) The game has adjusted - the lack of residue has become a value point for some similar to height and UTs.
    3) Although some believe the counter lowers the value of the horse, we have to look at it from the other side as well. If the counter was removed, "natural" horses would be the ones experiencing the decrease in value. This would be due to losing the value point mentioned in #2.
    REPLY: (by Smaug) May 25 2020 8:48am
    I like all the differing opinions. I know an idea brought up was having an extra tab "History" of sorts on the horse like HI2. Although, I do not think it could be implemented in a way where it would be able to trace the ones already applied which would sadly be a downfall. A running log if you will.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 25 2020 1:05pm
    The residue counter is there so players know that a horse has been modified. While many players don't much care, there are also quite a few players for whom this is important. They want a horse that is "natural" not one that has been modified from what it originally was.

    There was originally a big uproar over not knowing if a horse was "natural" or "unnatural" thus the counter.

    It's something that really needs to remain unless we remove the ability to modify the horse.
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    REPLY: (by Smaug) Jun 24 2020 11:16am
    After yesterday's chaotic craziness it got me thinking about what if we had a sandbox server. I think white would be a perfect fit for one. None of the super commands of course, but basically just allowing a vent for players to do whatever their heart's content. Is this a thing that would be possible?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 24 2020 1:03pm
    No, not really. The game is rated with the ESRB as G for All ages/General Audience.

    The owners would like to keep it that way. :)

    To have a server for adults would mean having to re-rate the game to adult, which would be 18+ to 21+ For a non-control content server.

    No way we could keep children off of it (yes there is captcha however children still manage to get on,) so the rating would have to change. And that isn't something we want to happen.

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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Prison
    REPLY: (by Sephiroth) Jun 26 2020 10:41am
    So we have an isle named Prison but talking about Prison isn't okay?
    And even talking about Prison Isle is a little hairy? what gives yo
    REPLY: (by Sephiroth) Jun 26 2020 10:47am
    Like maybe we should examine the real world comparison of being sent to a work camp when you break a rule or say the wrong thing to an npc
    REPLY: (by Equustrian) Jun 26 2020 10:49am
    Community Service Isle?
    REPLY: (by Azalea) Jun 26 2020 10:49am
    Honestly very confusing. We were told to stop talking about isles. The game is literally full of isles.
    REPLY: (by Courbette) Jun 26 2020 11:16am
    Reintegration Isle would be a great name, that way avoiding any real-life negative connotations that some players might choose to escape on this game!
    REPLY: (by Linggg) Jun 26 2020 11:19am
    Reintegration Isle is a great idea :D
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Jun 26 2020 11:45am
    Prison Isle has been around since the begging of time, I highly doubt Joe is going to rename and isle because of a few complaints.

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    REPLY: (by SilicaAndPina) Sep 30 2020 10:58pm
    Was wondering what user commands exist? i know about !MUTEALL and !UNMUTEALL but are there any others?

    oh also, I tried doing !MUTE <PLAYERNAME> and it gave me a message saying "Mute Channel Not Recognized. (ALL/ADS/GLOBAL/ISLAND/NEAR/HERE/BUDDY/PM/BR/SOCIALS/LOGINS)"
    what is BR? or SOCIALS? how does it differ from PM or BUDDY?
    REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) Oct 1 2020 5:59am
    BR is buddy requests, so that nobody can add you. Socials is when you're in the same spot as somebody and click I believe it's an exclamation mark and you can pick socials, some of them make noise, and sometimes people will spam them so there's an option to mute them.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 1 2020 12:43pm
    Help Center -> Support -> Chat -> 9) Commands:

    Commands: Player commands begin with an exclamation point as the first character on a chat line.
    !AUTOREPLY [text] : Automatically replies to PM's with [text]
    !AUTOREPLY : Removed current autoreply
    !MUTE GLOBAL : Mutes all global chat
    !MUTE ISLAND : Mutes all Island chat
    !MUTE NEAR : Mutes all near chat
    !MUTE HERE : Mutes all here chat
    !MUTE BUDDY : Mutes all buddy chat
    !MUTE SOCIALS : Mutes all socials
    !MUTE ALL : Mutes all channels above
    !HEAR [channel] : Unmutes any channel above.
    !DANCE [dirs] : A list of directions to face, one per second.. U=up D=down L=left R=right These all reset between game sessions.

    :)

    Note, the game is not case sensitive so you don't have to use all caps.
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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Character limit on horse profiles
    REPLY: (by CharredLatte) Oct 15 2020 8:44am
    Hiya! I've noticed a lot of talk recently about the character limit for horse profiles.
    The limit is currently at 250, however code and spaces are also included in the character count, which greatly limits the amount of stuff you can actually fit into the profile without it disappearing after being saved.
    I realise this is obviously not a priority, but would/could it be a possibility to increase the character limit? Or making it so code doesn't count? Just wanted to start a discussion, it's really not a huge deal! :)

    PS : I looked through the forum to see if this had already been addressed and didn't seem to find anything, so excuse me if it's already been brought up! :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 15 2020 11:56am
    As far as I know it's not possible to increase it.

    HI1 was not initially designed to be a large game. And, the "ancient" Adobe Flash it's programmed in is not at all flexible.

    There is very limited space for many things, this is one of those things... Unfortunately.

    REPLY: (by CharredLatte) Oct 15 2020 4:11pm
    I understand! thanks for the answer! :)
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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 20 2020 8:50pm
    Joe has stated the following:

    1) I will try to keep it running till nov15th
    2) Will let it coast after that. If no one abuses it, might stay up for a while.
    3) will attempt flash past 2020 and see how it goes. If viable, may have more options even with hi1.

    As many were not on when Joe and Miranda were on, wanted to share this here. :)

    REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) Nov 1 2020 1:47pm
    I knew it was coming, but it still hurts. Thank you DP for being here all these years. Thanks to Joe and Miranda if you see this for keeping it running so long. I'm gonna go hug all my pixels now.
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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Offline Version of the Game?
    REPLY: (by ChickenJoe) Nov 8 2020 2:19am
    I've been a player since the beginning, and have enjoyed HI1, 2 and now 3 throughout the years. I'm well into my adult years now but dang did the nostalgia hit hard when I loaded up HI1 for the first time in well over a year.

    As someone familiar with how these games run, I'm not entirely sure how viable of an option this would be but I wasn't on when Joe and Miranda went over the closing details I figured I'd drop the suggestion/question.
    How possible would it be to release an offline version of the game? Tweak it a little to add more NPC presence in mini games, arenas, and auctions (as randomly generated horse sales) and I think it would be a fun game one could buy a copy of for their computer and play as a single player. I know I personally would purchase one if only for the nostalgia but I'm sure others would be interested in something like that? I never had the chance to complete all the NPC quests, or all the mini games, and the way HI1 formatted vs. HI2 and 3, it seems like a possibility?
    Again, I 100% understand this is probably not an option. Joe and Miranda have already put so much into a game that just doesn't have a lot of interaction anymore and they themselves had said they were losing money keeping it running. I understand they probably don't want to invest more into this game when their focus has (and should be) been on HI2 and 3. I just figured I'd mention that's something I thought of and would be interested in if the possibility ever arose.

    Thank you for all the cherished memories, everyone. This game helped me through a very difficult childhood and I met some amazing people on here.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 8 2020 12:15pm
    Off line version is not something Joe wants to do.

    There is a slight possibility that he will bring HI1 back IF we can still access Flash games (which we think we will be able to do.) And if they are still popular.

    However it's a rather big "IF" so we will have to wait and see.

    HI1 is quite old, done in a very old version of Adobe Flash, and it would take a Lot of time to re-program the security for the game.

    It's something we will have to wait and see on.
    REPLY: (by ChickenJoe) Nov 15 2020 10:45pm
    dang, I kind of figured that would be the answer but it's still disappointing to hear. I understand though.
    I hope it's able to stick around for a while yet. I'd really like to see the lava isles again before the game goes, *laughing out loud!*! I appreciate the reply :)
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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: How to access HI1 after 2021 Please read
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 9 2020 12:08pm
    Please give this a try. It works for me... How does it work for you?

    This link will take you to a web page Joe specifically set up for this, it's a sold and safe page. Please remove the spaces in the link though... I have to avoid that filter... :P

    ht tp: / / horseisle . com / flashworkaround.php
    REPLY: (by WildHorseRunning) Nov 9 2020 12:19pm
    This works for me! I'll continue playing the game through this application to see if I ever run into any problems, but the function commands still work fine, it loaded right up, and competitions are running fine so far!

    I'm on an HP laptop running Windows 10 with a mid-range graphics card and 8GB RAM
    REPLY: (by WildHorseRunning) Nov 9 2020 12:21pm
    I'm also getting about 12-21fps, usually in the higher range; will need to play this way more to see if that frame rate holds up or how bad the lag might get. Can't cheese the frame rate with a zoom in the browser this way!
    REPLY: (by LoveAlways) Nov 9 2020 12:49pm
    Hello, MacBook user here! Followed all the instructions, and tried it on three different internet sources: Safari, Chrome, and Firefox. All three downloaded correctly, and took my to the log in page. However it failed to connect to the server on both Safari and Chrome. Firefox successfully connected to the server and was able to run properly. The only thing was that on firefox it didn't open as a pop-out window, it displayed as a webpage. Non-issue in the big picture, just an adjustment!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 9 2020 1:15pm
    Make sure there are no spaces in the links, make sure you have the proper server... such as pinto or palomino... in 2 places in the server link.

    I had a few hiccups with that. Try typing it by hand for the server if needed, that seemed to work for me.

    Once you have the projector downloaded:

    so for example for pinto (remove the spaces) it's:

    ht tp: / / pinto . horseisle . com / horseisle . swf? SERVER=pintoip%PORT=443

    That goes in the little whit box that comes up. Then make sure you type your current username properly, case sensitive, and then pass word again case sensitive.
    REPLY: (by LoveAlways) Nov 9 2020 2:10pm
    Hello, MacBook user here! Followed all the instructions, and tried it on three different internet sources: Safari, Chrome, and Firefox. All three downloaded correctly, and took my to the log in page. However it failed to connect to the server on both Safari and Chrome. Firefox successfully connected to the server and was able to run properly. The only thing was that on firefox it didn't open as a pop-out window, it displayed as a webpage. Non-issue in the big picture, just an adjustment!
    REPLY: (by LoveAlways) Nov 9 2020 2:10pm
    oh no it reposted, my bad
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 9 2020 4:15pm
    The new method does not actually use a browser. It bypasses them, which is how we are able to access the game.

    So what browser you are using, should not make a difference. If you download the . swf file, and download the projector, then click on the projector to open it (I put a link on my desktop for that,) then copy the server address into the white box, you are actually not using a browser.
    REPLY: (by Wildflower) Nov 9 2020 4:27pm
    Windows 10 from a surface pro - works fine for me! :)
    REPLY: (by TommyLand) Nov 9 2020 7:17pm
    I checked the link you shared DesertPaint, and it opened a window, and I from there click the link in blue and go from there?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 9 2020 8:55pm
    First you download the Flash Player Projector matching your computer = Windows / Mac...

    Then you can place that file wherever you want, I have a shortcut on my desktop.

    Then, click on that and open up a blank white page. *laughing out loud!* Click on File on that page, then on Open.

    That brings up the little window where you copy/paste the link that you want from the list for #6, the servers.

    For pinto what you would copy/paste is the HI1 Pinto link.

    That will bring up Pinto server and you type in your username (make sure you spell it just as it actually is, this system is case sensitive. And, give your pass word, again it's case sensitive so be sure to use caps when appropriate.

    Then hit your enter key or click on the Enter button and there you go. :)
    REPLY: (by Gollum) Nov 10 2020 9:58am
    thanks for the instructions, also works on Linux!
    REPLY: (by OrientExpress) Nov 10 2020 12:39pm
    Works fine on my end too - W10 on a HP laptop.
    What I was wondering though - will we be able to still purchase subs, etc. somehow in case the game survives longer than a year from now?
    REPLY: (by WildHorseRunning) Nov 10 2020 2:33pm
    I think that's accessible through the main website, so you shouldn't need a flash player to get to the Server page where the purchase options are, Orient?

    Also, I've noticed that this workaround works pretty smoothly, except for when I'm catching horses - moving the cursor/target in the minigame and clicking to send the lasso out make it lag so hard sometimes that the horse 'teleports' from one place to another in the screen. Not game-breaking, just something to be aware of so you're more careful about where you're placing your lasso *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by Gho) Nov 10 2020 9:24pm
    Tried it on my mac. Downloaded the projector and onto my desktop. The only difference for a mac is that mine does not come up as a white page, so I hit file and then open location then pasted the link. Everything else worked fine!
    REPLY: (by YveofNight) Nov 11 2020 7:01am
    It's working well on my W10 laptop so far! Thanks :)
    REPLY: (by Smaug) Nov 11 2020 8:18am
    Working good on my end (Windows) as well, thanks Joe!
    REPLY: (by Lioness) Nov 11 2020 8:37am
    I can get through every step fine except actually connecting to the server. I'm on a Windows 10 HP laptop, though based on other responses, that might not be the issue.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 11 2020 12:21pm
    @Lioness make sure you do not have spaces in the link you are copy/pasting. Such as one before the link or after... It's very sensitive. Must be exact.

    If you still have a problem try typing in the link just as you see it. It's also a bit finicky sometimes...
    REPLY: (by Lioness) Nov 11 2020 12:41pm
    I was able to get on HI2. I also joined Dun and was able to login into that server. Oddly enough, my problem seems specific to Pinto. The only thing I can think of is if there is some sort of server limit going through this way?
    REPLY: (by Lioness) Nov 11 2020 12:51pm
    I was finally able to get on Pinto. I did nothing differently, so I really don't know why it worked this time (sorry, I can't help others), but thank you for your assistance!
    REPLY: (by Kagomo) Nov 24 2020 8:28pm
    Just tried it out briefly!! Worked well for me! Couldn't figure out how to zoom and the chat box dropdown menu got cut off, but those are all minor details (though if anyone knows a solution let me know). Just grateful there's a potential workaround for now. :)
    REPLY: (by StraitPirate) Nov 25 2020 6:52pm
    Ahh hopefully we get to utilize it though. The workaround doesn't mean anything if they don't decide to get us back up and running... anybody heard any updates about if Joe's decided to try sinking the time into it?
    REPLY: (by MellyMonster) Nov 26 2020 8:45am
    honestly, I get Joe and Miranda are super busy. I appreciate that. however, I hope this doesn't become another 'horseland' where it's meant to end in january and stays open another 4 months or whatever it was and is then just randomly closed. I think the players of HI deserve more than that..
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 26 2020 10:19am
    It's a 4 day holiday in the US, so Joe is pretty much off unless there is an emergency.

    He said he would leave HI1 up for as long as possible, but probably not into 2021.

    So he won't really get into it's feasibility until some time in 2021...
    REPLY: (by MellyMonster) Dec 2 2020 1:05am
    any definitive update?

    would it not be easier to delete all of the other servers and just keep pinto? then it's only one server to manage. i think the majority of servers- save pinto- are generally empty, so i doubt anyone is going to be too fussed about holding onto their profiles on that server.
    REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) Dec 2 2020 8:26am
    As somebody whose home is Brown, you're wrong about that. But, I would rather have one server up than no servers. Still though, I doubt they will do it.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 2 2020 12:10pm
    One or 10 doesn't matter. They are updated one at a time from the master beta server. Basically it's just copied/pasted code onto the server. Doesn't take long.

    The issue is with the mass coding that is just one massive huge code, and spending the 100+ hours away from a game that needs him to do the re-coding for the security of HI1.
    REPLY: (by Equestriance) Dec 12 2020 4:33pm
    I'm assuming this won't work after the servers are closed permanently right? (re: the October announcement)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 13 2020 12:21pm
    If HI1 is taken down, then no the workaround won't work.

    However if they are up, then it will.

    I have no idea if Joe will leave them up at this time for a while longer or not.
    REPLY: (by Wall) Dec 14 2020 7:17pm
    would there be a possibility Joe could make the game offline so it can run on flash and charge for the download? just an idea <3
    REPLY: (by StraitPirate) Dec 14 2020 10:29pm
    No luck Wall, someone already asked. Copy/pasting from another forum-

    "REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 8 2020 12:15pm
    Off line version is not something Joe wants to do. There is a slight possibility that he will bring HI1 back IF we can still access Flash games (which we think we will be able to do.) And if they are still popular.
    However it's a rather big "IF" so we will have to wait and see. HI1 is quite old, done in a very old version of Adobe Flash, and it would take a Lot of time to re-program the security for the game.
    It's something we will have to wait and see on."

    I'm really anxious to see what Joe decides, I hope he decides to sink the time in.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 31 2020 5:17pm
    Basically everything remains the same. We just have to access the game differently but not using a browser to do so.

    Nothing different about the game itself. The web site here will remain the same as well.

    We just can't use a browser to access the actual game server we have to use a "projector" which is downloaded onto our computers.

    This should work... Since we aren't using a browser. Of course it can't be finally tested and confirmed until the browsers actually block Flash.

    But it should... Still work... *laughing out loud!* :)
    REPLY: (by Absolem) Jan 27 2021 6:20pm
    Hi guys. Having issues with logging in on Mac. I've downloaded the projector, gone to open it but I don't get any white box appearing. I've tried other alternatives, got the login screen but was met with "failed to connect to server, might be down?". Not really sure what I'm doing wrong. Tried on both Chrome and Firefox...
    REPLY: (by AddledHaflinger) Jan 27 2021 8:28pm
    Absolem, try using an old version of Safari? I'm personally using Safari 11, but theoretically, any version before Safari 14 should work just fine?
    After that, download Flash Player from here:
    h t t p s://adobe-flash-player . en . softonic . com / mac (without all the spaces)

    After you've installed it, open the old version of Safari, click "Safari" in the top left corner, click "Preferences", then "Websites". Check the box next to "Adobe Flash Player", and choose "When visiting other websites: On".

    This is what I've done, and everything works just fine.
    REPLY: (by PopRocks) Feb 1 2021 9:39am
    Mine still isn't working, now when I pull up horseisle in Safari it a totally different format and the screen is white.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 3 2021 12:44pm
    We are not using a browser.

    If you are trying to access the game via a browser you can't.

    Follow the instructions, and you can load the game via the projector. :)
    REPLY: (by PopRocks) Mar 16 2021 1:53pm
    Okay, I am trying again. The problem is that once I download the projector, the flash icon shows up, but when I click it, nothing happens.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 17 2021 10:13am
    Make sure you are downloading the projector and Not the debugger.

    If you are on a Chromebook, phone or tablet it won't do the download.
    REPLY: (by PopRocks) Mar 18 2021 6:18pm
    Just tried again, still not working. I have mac
    REPLY: (by ChasingWillow) Mar 19 2021 7:08am
    I accidentally went in full screen mode, and when I tried to exit it, I somehow made the non-full screen mode super teeny. Does anyone know how to fix this (make it normal size)? I'm on a PC
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 19 2021 3:49pm
    Close out to the Desktop. Then when you create it again it should, be normal size.
    REPLY: (by PopRocks) Mar 20 2021 12:08pm
    Is there any way I can send a picture of what is happening?
    REPLY: (by PopRocks) Mar 20 2021 12:09pm
    Oh wait i just got it
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    REPLY: (by WildHorseRunning) Nov 11 2020 12:31pm
    So I've been ranch hunting lately, because I'm not terribly happy with my current ranch location and if a ranch opens up in a spot I've had my eye on ever since I first joined way back in 07, I'd like to move.

    My question though, is: Do previously-owned ranches change their look when they become unowned? Like do they go from the grey building back down to one of the lower level ones when you're looking at the ranches from the outside(like on Cabin, there's lots of Unowned Ranches which say 'Unowned Ranch' when you click on them, but they show the little white tents)? Trying to figure out if I should keep spending time running around clicking on each individual ranch or if I should be simply looking at how they look in the game world to get an idea of if they're still owned or not.
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    Yes, they used revert back to the tepee eventually (though I can't remember if this was related to updates to the game or not to "refresh" things). If they are sold manually, then they will initially be that second shack. If the person's sub expired, then there is usually no change for a while. Since many of the spots are former subs expiring, I would keep clicking on each once since it takes a while to go back to the tepee.
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    Ah, okay! Thank you :D
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    REPLY: (by WildHorseRunning) Nov 11 2020 1:03pm
    I understand removing the year sub option, especially considering HI1's uncertain(though hopeful!) future, but would it be possible to add the currency options back in for those of us who came back for (potentially) one last hurrah? Not trying to whine about things being expensive/money being difficult to earn, obviously, but wondering if that could be a possibility to make it a little easier to get the upper level tack/companions/etc that would help make things more fun for those who want to just enjoy HI1 while it's still here without grinding quests for cash
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 11 2020 10:30pm
    oe kind of felt that was not really something that the game needs... It can be a bit expensive, and he really doesn't want players investing a lot in the game right now.

    My suggestion is to gift a month sub or perhaps a PO to someone who does have lots of gold. :)

    Many players would be willing to pay for a PO especially.

    The rules are: You must be subscribed before you can sell a gifted sub or PO. Then find the person who wants one and arrange the price, then gift it to the person via the Shop. (Below the options is one for Gift Payments, pay for a different player. Type in the player name, then the server then click on options and you can gift everything.... Oh, Joe forgot to remove that the yr sub and money, oops... I'll let him know.

    Just don't do the year sub or purchase game money... As it might not work even though the options are still there.
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    REPLY: (by Courbette) Nov 12 2020 7:31am
    I was just wondering what the general feeling around purchasing a month sub is? I see we have a flash workaround, people are still playing, etc. I do want to keep playing on the game and such, so I'm wondering if a month sub is a wise investment right now or should we expect differently? Thanks
    REPLY: (by WildHorseRunning) Nov 12 2020 7:33am
    For me, it's $5, which I can afford every month, even if I don't get the 'full' value, so I'm more than willing to pay that for myself/a few others to keep supporting the game :) I'd be interested in hearing others' opinions!
    REPLY: (by WildHorseRunning) Nov 12 2020 9:07am
    To clarify, I mean 'full' value as in, the game stays up and running/accessible for the full 31 days of the sub. And I'm willing to keep supporting the game as long as it's available, largely because I haven't had a chance due to real life to pay proper respect to this game that was such a huge part of my childhood.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 12 2020 12:13pm
    Jor will be taking the game down possibly Sunday the 15th.

    He might leave it up longer, into Dec. anyway. We don't really know.

    So, it's up to you as to whether you want to do a $5.00 sub, there are No refunds.

    While we will most likely be able to access Flash games via the Projector, HI1 will still be taken down.

    Now, that said... Come 2021, if there are still enough people wanting the game, and assuming at least most are able to access the Flash games... He "might" spend the 100+ hours to re-program HI1 security and then, bring the game back up.

    There are however no guarantees he will do that, it's a somewhat small possibility that he might do that.

    It's a lot of work for a very old game. Whether he will do that or not I have no idea.

    I hope so, but no idea.
    REPLY: (by WildHorseRunning) Nov 12 2020 12:32pm
    Will he be taking down the entire site, or just the game itself? I liked 2, but honestly 1 has always been my favorite, and I've loved spending time in it now, and would love to keep doing so as long as it's available. If he takes down the entire thing, will he ask about interest on the 2 or 3 forums?
    REPLY: (by StraitPirate) Nov 12 2020 1:07pm
    I'd absolutely re subscribe if they took the time to bring the game back up, I know a number of other people who would, too.
    REPLY: (by ChasingWillow) Nov 12 2020 1:19pm
    I would definitely continue to purchase month subs if the game was brought back, as well as the occasional pawneer order as well :)
    REPLY: (by SilverSunsets) Nov 12 2020 1:49pm
    I would also absolutely invest to help keep the game up, I've honestly been griving for weeks, Horseisle 1 is probably my favorite game ever invented and it holds the special-est of places in my heart <3
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 12 2020 10:29pm
    The entire site will go down.

    Hopefully he will bring it back, but I don't know. So we can hope!
    REPLY: (by OrientExpress) Nov 13 2020 12:16pm
    One quick question: If the entire site is taken down - how will we know if it will go back up at some point? Will someone post in forums or news on HI3?

    Cause I don't really see any other way to let people know that the game is up again when it is down for a couple months or longer.
    REPLY: (by WildHorseRunning) Nov 14 2020 7:02am
    I mean, I'll probably be obsessively checking the HI1 link *laughing out loud!* But it would also be nice to know where to keep an eye out for 'official' news; I have accounts on 2, E/LC, and on 3(though I cannot play 3 because my computer just doesn't like running it, and honestly neither do I for enough small reasons combining to make it not fun enough for me to try to push through my computer performance), so I can keep playing 2 and checking 2 and 3 forums.

    But still, having an idea of where to look for official news/give indications of interest would be helpful :)
    REPLY: (by StraitPirate) Nov 14 2020 7:53am
    Man I'd honestly pay more for a month sub if that's what they needed to bring the game back. HorseIsle's been like my Hogwarts *laughing out loud!* Safe place I could always come back to growing up, and even years down the road there's always familiar faces, people I used to know and play with, even if we weren't close buds.

    That's a good question, where do we look for updates? I don't play 2 or 3.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 14 2020 12:43pm
    If HI1 is brought back up it would most likely be posted in the news and/or the forums for HI2 and HI3.

    It's not so much the money issue as the time issue. It takes a ton of time away from HI3 that is needed on HI3 to work on a very old game.

    Again, IF Flash games are still accessible come 2021, Joe "might" be willing to take the time at that point to re-do the security for HI1.

    It would still be a few months probably before he could get that done it's exceptionally time consuming.

    And, during that time he would not be working on HI3 and he is needed on HI3, so... Mostly it's a time issue.

    We will have to wait and see, I've no idea. Just hope.
    REPLY: (by Wildflower) Nov 15 2020 7:50am
    Would it be possible to send an email to HI1 players with updates about if or when HI1 will be brought back up once these forums close? Like StraitPirate, I also don't play 2 or 3.
    As always, thanks for all you do :)
    REPLY: (by StraitPirate) Nov 15 2020 11:44am
    Does HI have an official social media page maybe? Even if we could creep that and wait for updates.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 15 2020 12:27pm
    @Wildflower not really, we aren't set up to be able to do that unfortunately.

    @StraightPirate, yes HI does have official FB page, though I can't give a link to it. Sorry. Miranda usually manages that page when she has time.
    REPLY: (by NostalgicPotato) Nov 15 2020 4:20pm
    Just my luck that I login to have some nostalgia on the day that this site might be going down! It figures. Too bad I went into web development and not game development, if I were able to help I'd be glad to do so, but I don't think much of the playerbase went into programming careers, *laughing out loud!*.

    Alas, regardless, I'll get what little play time I can in and enjoy the memories.
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    REPLY: (by WildHorseRunning) Nov 12 2020 12:56pm
    So, since the deadline of 11/15 is still up for the game potentially being taken down, with a later date possible if security isn't compromised further, I thought I'd throw my thoughts on a potential game revamp up in a forum post, maybe open the discussion for what other players would want to see if the game is taken down, so that way Joe can see what we're interested in to keep playing :)

    Personally, I think I'd be happiest with at least one of the servers - one of the ones that are almost completely inactive, with only a dozen ranches still owned by inactive players whose subscriptions haven't expired yet - being reset completely to 0 to offer a fresh start, while the others(namely Pinto, since that's still the most active) are 'restored' to the same server state they were when the game is taken down.

    So, everything on Pinto would be preserved, but, for example, maybe Palomino gets reset. All ranches unowned, no player profiles whatsoever, completely fresh experience/horse lists, reset economy to be based only off of quest rewards/pawneer prices... I think that would offer a decent compromise for those players, like myself, who'd like to be a little more competitive insofar as experience training goes, without feeling discouraged by the 100k+ tops on almost a dozen breeds, with nearly three times as many over 50k, iirc.

    I liked 2, and I'll probably still play it off and on, but I can't get the hang of 3, not as a casual game the way that I've always played Horse Isle, and I don't have a computer that will run 3 at any decent, half-way enjoyable rate, so I'd really like to see HI1 survive, even if that means it goes down for a while to be upgraded/revamped. So, what are everyone else's thoughts as to what they'd like to see/need to see in order to keep playing/come back if/when HI1 is taken down?
    REPLY: (by WildHorseRunning) Nov 12 2020 1:47pm
    After speaking with some buds, the suggestion was brought up that if one of the servers is 'reset', could those who still keep their accounts alive there for whatever reason be given an opportunity to 'convert' to another server? Maybe another of the inactive ones, if they don't use those horses/etc.

    Speaking with my mother, who's modded/admined for a lot of forum-based websites, the server space for those can get really expensive, and for something like a game, it likely needs dedicated server space, which is even *more* expensive - and HI1 has 11 servers, so 11 different copies of the game that need to run simultaneously and keep track of their individual data. With that in mind, it's not surprising to me that HI1 has been losing money recently, after the dip in activity - and financially, it doesn't make sense(to me at least) to try to bring HI1 back with the same amount of servers(and thus cost) if only one or two are being used. If the server capacity is 150 players on at a time, it would make more sense money-wise to keep the current most active server as-is, and bringing one back as a fresh start, and potentially add in more if HI1 gets popular again.

    I recognize that even on these inactive servers, that only ever seem to have 1 or 2 players on, if that, there are still people who keep their accounts active/horses alive for whatever reason, and it wouldn't exactly be *fair* to them to just... wipe their accounts without warning. But if HI1 is already going down for a revamp, will the current server info be able to be saved and re-implemented into its new form(assuming it does come back and doesn't stay down)? Could those players' horses/accounts be transferred to another server, maybe after contact is established by admin/mod and they're asked about their plans regarding HI1?
    REPLY: (by Lioness) Nov 12 2020 3:32pm
    If the game is brought back, then I feel like the best pathway forward is to have one server since it will be a smaller customer base, with the easiest option leaving Pinto as is since it has largely become the default for most players (or another total reset but that does not appeal to someone who has already made the leap from a dead server once). Active players will inevitably flock to one server with so few on. Black, when it was created, was toted to be a fresh start for existing players to enjoy sans interest, but it has fallen to the wayside after time. I believe they have ruled out combining servers since it would have to be done practically one by one.
    REPLY: (by WildHorseRunning) Nov 12 2020 3:41pm
    That's what I was thinking, that combining servers would be a lot of effort? Obviously I'm not a mod/admin/coder, so I don't know the extent of what that would take, but given when the game was originally created/what I've gleaned over the years as far as moderator/admin abilities, it seems like it would be too much effort for too little satisfaction to try to merge servers.

    Possibly getting in touch with players who still have accounts on those dead servers, maybe asking them to select their top 5(to pick a small random number) horses to transfer to a new account in the 'preserved' server or the reset one(if they decide to have more than one), along with their subscription(if they have one)/bank amount/*possibly* quest points could be an option? It would limit the amount of horses that would need to be transferred over, eliminate items, and minimize the work needed. I know from Palomino server in particular, there's only 10 players on the Top Horse Exp list in City Hall, and only 8 ranches owned - including my own, but I did that more to fulfill 13-year-old me's dream of owning a ranch by the whisperer *laughing out loud!* But in all 7 of the ranches that actually exist from long-term players, the horses have stat-decayed to the maximum. So even though the subscription is still active, the players are not, at least not on that server(and I only remember seeing 1 of the player names ever active on Pinto).
    REPLY: (by StraitPirate) Nov 14 2020 7:58am
    Ahhh as much as it would stink I'd be happy even if they just reset everything and started new with like 2 or 3 servers or something instead. It would reset the economy too, it's super inflated from what it originally was.
    REPLY: (by WildHorseRunning) Nov 14 2020 8:11am
    A lot of people would be really upset with that, which is why I suggested keeping Pinto, since it's the one most active/that people have put the most time into the past few years. But personally, I probably would play more on a fresh server than I would on Pinto, if they brought the game back with Pinto + 1 reset server, because I'd love to just... Experience the game all over again. And yeah, the economy being a bit inflated is kind of a bummer *laughing out loud!* Even though it's relaxed now that HI1 is EOL, it's still pretty inflated
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 14 2020 12:47pm
    What is on one server is on all servers. They are all tied to the programming, just separate from each other.

    However we do not have the ability to move anything (other than a sub) from one server to another server, the game was not programmed to be able to do that.

    Things can go from Beta to the live servers but that's it.

    Servers can't be combined as they are in different locations technically. They are totally separate from each other.

    No idea if Joe will spend the massive amount of time to re-program HI1's security. That's something that we will have to wait and see on.

    It's extremely time consuming and takes him completely away from HI3 where he is needed. So honestly I have no idea.

    Hopefully he will assuming Flash is still accessible come 2021, however it would still be a while somewhere between 1 and 3 months of programming... That is a lot, and he is again needed on HI3.

    We will have to wait and see.
    REPLY: (by StraitPirate) Nov 15 2020 11:49am
    Ohhh I hope Joe's feeling generous *laughing out loud!* HorseIsle's meant so much to so many people over the years.
    Even if he does decide to redo it, where it'll take so much time to work on, it'll probably be a lot longer before we're up and running again yeah? Like I know you said it could take 1-3 months, but I mean if its 1-3 months of work and he's just fitting it in where he can it could be quite a while eh?

    I know I keep saying it but ooooh I hope we get er back
    REPLY: (by Lavinium) Nov 27 2020 1:13pm
    I hope someday Horse Isle will make its return. It's a game that has meant incredibly much to me and one of the places that has always felt like home, no matter my age, no matter where I am or what's going on in my life. I'm sure many others feel the same. It would be incredible to have this wonderful game preserved somehow so that we can all enjoy it for years to come. I know it's a lot of work, but I hope someday it can be done.
    REPLY: (by McHorses) Dec 25 2020 1:09pm
    I would love to keep playing! I think it would be a great idea to reset everything and go down to one server
    REPLY: (by MellyMonster) Dec 29 2020 1:32am
    Any definitive update yet on what's happening?

    I think it's quite poor to not have an answer by now.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 29 2020 11:57am
    At this time, it's status quo.

    Hoping Joe will leave the game up as long as the hacker leaves the game alone.

    Beyond that, it's wait and see.
    REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) Dec 29 2020 12:48pm
    With the games ending being a question mark, is there any chance of everybody being given free subs to enjoy the rest of the lifetime? I would love to buy more to support the game but with the possibility of the game being shut down at any time it doesn't quite seem smart.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 30 2020 10:13am
    No sorry. Nice idea, but not something Joe would go for. *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by Mosaic) Jan 10 2021 12:16pm
    I've been playing HI1 under different accounts since 2007. It is such a lovely game and a wonderful part of my childhood.


    I would gladly pay for a single-player offline version of this game. But honestly I've appreciated everything we've gotten so far. Really appreciate the memories and spirit of this game.
    REPLY: (by Rebel) Jan 19 2021 10:10am
    If there is a revamp an idea may be to make the exp awards higher for comps like esj?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 19 2021 12:34pm
    As far as I know, nothing will be done with the game. It's up until it's hacked again, then will go down. Possibly permanently.

    If/when that happens, we will have to wait and see if Joe will take the massive amount of time to fix the security for the game and bring it back up. While it is a possibility, it's also not likely. Not giving up hope though! :)
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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Quick Cheshire Question
    REPLY: (by LoveAlways) Nov 30 2020 8:28am
    How many cheshire companions are out on cloud isles at any given time? Some say 2, some say 3, can we please get a confirmative answer? Thanks!!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 30 2020 12:15pm
    I have no idea. Sorry. It's been a long time since they were added.
    REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) Nov 30 2020 4:41pm
    From the News: "A new, rare companion has been added. It cannot be purchased in stores and only two are around at one time. Good luck!"
    I can only assume this is the cheshire cat as it is never mentioned by name in the news.
    REPLY: (by MellyMonster) Dec 1 2020 8:32am
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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Source code for the game
    REPLY: (by WildFlight) Dec 7 2020 9:40pm
    I apologize if this is in the wrong section, not sure where to ask this. I have loved this game for a very very long time, I played it for probably 12 years before my account timed out midway through college. It's very upsetting to see that the game may be closing. As a way to preserve the game, I was wondering if Joe and Miranda could give out the server side source code so if people wanted they could set up the game on a private server for themselves (or even allow people to purchase the source code). This game has a very special place in my heart as it does in lots of other people. I would love for a way to preserve it on an individual level. Thank you <3
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 8 2020 12:36pm
    No that's not something they wish to do.

    It's possible, while not likely, but still possible Joe will take the massive amount of time to re-program HI1's security and bring the game back.

    The main issue with this is it will take him completely away for quite a while from HI3 where he is very much needed.

    We will have to wait and see.
    REPLY: (by WildFlight) Dec 8 2020 8:34pm
    Ah, I understand. Thank you for the response. For now I'll just add to the voices of people who would really appreciate the effort in keeping the game alive :)
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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: "database error"
    REPLY: (by MellyMonster) Dec 9 2020 3:30am
    when logging on to choose a server, this message presents;

    DATABASE ERRORHorseIsleServer List
    Each server is completely independent and has identical game content.. etc etc.

    is this the start of the game being removed, or just a generla error?
    REPLY: (by MellyMonster) Dec 9 2020 3:30am
    general*
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 9 2020 12:25pm
    Glitch.

    Try clearing your cookies. For Windows that is Ctrl + Shift + Del.

    If that doesn't work try rebooting the computer.

    Hopefully that will work. :)

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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: +6 ENDURANCE?
    REPLY: (by RuinGuard) Dec 22 2020 5:41am
    i have a item "Blue Polo Shirts" or something that says it does +6 ENDURANCE
    but what is endurance and what do i gain by increasing it?
    are there any other stats like this? and what do they do..?

    thanks!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 22 2020 12:22pm
    Endurance helps a horse hang in there for a longer period of time.

    It's really only needed for competitions.

    For example, in racing, speed is a primary stat however endurance is secondary. It gives the horse the ability to run for a longer period of time before tiring.

    How your horse does in the competition is dependent on different stats. For racing, speed is primary while endurance is secondary. For jumping, strength is primary while speed is secondary. For dressage, conformation is primary while groom is secondary. For draft, strength is primary. In simple jumping, the stats account for very little of the actual score. It is mostly random. All stats can be trained except for groom which can be taken care of at a groomer in one of many towns.

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    VIEWING GAME FORUM THREAD: Cannot connect to server
    REPLY: (by PopRocks) May 8 2021 1:17pm
    For some reason, I cannot connect to the server. It keeps saying failed to connect. I tried redownloading flash and it still did not work.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 9 2021 10:24am
    Flash player is discontinued. We do however have a work around that is working. :)

    Go to this page: ht tp: //www . horseisle . com / flashworkaround . php

    (Without the spaces)

    It tells how to do this. :) Make sure you do download the proper file from Flash, You do NOT want the debugger, you do want the Flash Player Projector. # 2

    First you download the Flash Player Projector matching your computer = Windows / Mac... Make sure you download the Projector. Not the debugger.

    Then you can place that file wherever you want, I have a shortcut on my desktop.

    Then, click on that and open up a blank white page. Click on File on that page, then on Open.

    For Mac's it doesn't always come up with a white page. Try hitting
    File and then Open Location then paste the link. :)

    That brings up the little window where you copy/paste the link that you want from the list for #6, the servers.

    For example, for pinto what you would copy/paste is the HI1 Pinto link. For HI2 Eternal you would copy/paste that link etc...

    That will bring up that server and you type in your username (make sure you spell it just as it actually is, this system is case sensitive. And, give your password, again it's case sensitive so be sure to use caps when appropriate.)

    Then hit your enter key or click on the Enter button and there you go. :)
    REPLY: (by Cenicienta) May 20 2021 12:36pm
    I'm having the same issue, I downloaded everything exactly as described here and it continues to give me "Failed to connect to server! Might be down?" even though there are people online and I am connected to the internet. I can run HI3 just fine with my internet.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 21 2021 10:27am
    I am able to log on without a problem.

    Hopefully this has cleared up for you.
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    VIEWING GENERAL FORUM THREAD: Do NOT go to Hacker Sites!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 10 2011 1:11pm
    When players come on and tell you to go to ...site to get free money, do NOT do so.

    This is a password hacking site, any and all passwords on your computer will be stolen. If you have a super good firewall you might be safe, but no guarantees.

    If you do go there immediately change passwords, and run a virus scan as it also contains a virus I think.

    Never save passwords on your computer as you then become susceptible to such sites.

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    VIEWING GENERAL FORUM THREAD: Profiles and horse names: What is and is not allowed
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 15 2011 11:44am
    Warning this may be very long! :)

    Profiles:
    Not allowed:

    Any religious content. This game is not a religious game, there is no reason to discuss religion here. This is a family, quest/horse based game. Many parents allow their children to play because we do Not allow religion on this game. There are other places you may go to discuss this topic but not here please. My religion might upset you, yours might upset me... who knows, and it's not important for this game. So please keep of. :)

    No Violence, no threats, no graphic content. Remember young children do also play this game.

    No death, no jumping off places, hurting, being hurt.

    No dating, date speak. No adult content in any form. Again young children play here.

    No defaming/slandering another person. No hate lists.

    No words that normally would be caught by the filter. Just because the filter doesn't work for profiles, doesn't mean it's ok to use that word there. :) You may use the filtered word, but not the "original" word.

    Watch Lyrics... most are not appropriate for this game. If they are not ok, you may change the words or content but you may not just post inappropriate content whether it be lyrics, poems, or whatever the content is still inappropriate. :)

    No real names. If you usename is Connie you may say, Hi I'm Connie. Well yeah pretty obvious there so great! You may not say Hi, my real name is Connie. This is for your protection. You may say My nickname is Connie.

    No registered horse names, these can be traced directly to you.

    No locations such as town, city... school attended, age, grade in school. No Ages or age ranges are allowed this is for the safety of our players. This includes Adult, Teen, Pre-Teen, Tween...

    Allowed:
    RIP: Pet/horse name. (Non Registered) Dad, Mom, relative or friend. May have birth date and final date. No other content. If someone wishes to know more they may pm you.

    May have many many things as long as they are ok for ages 6, 7, 8. While we do not allow players to share their ages we do have some very young players on this game.

    You may say Goth or Emo or whatever just watch the rest of the content. ;)

    Horse Names:
    Not Allowed:

    Violent names, threatening names, defaming/slanderous names. No blood, gore, death, adult content - including implied adult content. No words that would normally be caught by the filter. You may use the filtered word, but not the unfiltered version. No avoiding the filter.

    Allowed:

    Sniper is ok, but not Sniper Attack as that becomes threatening. Gun is ok, but not Guns You Down. That is not ok as it's a threat.

    Blood Red is fine it's a color, but if used in the non color or non breed area it's not ok.

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    Remember this is a family game. ALL content must be child friendly. This still leaves you lots of available content. You don't have to post adult content just because you are above the child age. This game will Not have "adult" servers. It was designed as a game for the entire family as that is what the owners want it to be, that is what we insist it be. So please keep all content family friendly. :)

    There are other sites you can go to if you can't follow the above rules for a family game.

    Thanks for taking the time to read this. If you have further questions please ask, I will try to check on this post periodically. Do Not fight or argue.

    Note: We do not arbitrate or debate the rules. Freedom of speech does not apply to privately owned games. Especially if we wish to keep this family rated. Players clicked on Accept when they signed up to the game. That was a legally binding agreement that stated you had read and agreed to follow the rules of the game. We do hold players to that agreement. Those are the "laws" of this game. :)
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    VIEWING GENERAL FORUM THREAD: Role playing: What is and is not allowed
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 15 2011 12:50pm
    Time to try...to get everyone on the same page. :)

    Allowed:
    You may role play although we do not endorse (prefer that you do) it. After all this is Horse Isle, not Role Play Isle. ;)

    May have packs, troups, clubs, groups... as long as their is no "territorial" behavior or language.

    May have human RP but... no dating, no adult content.

    Not allowed:
    No violence, no threatening behavior or language, no territories, no hurting, no breeding. No telling others to leave an area. No Clans, Herds, Gangs. No type of behavior or language relating to those.

    No dating, no adult content AT ALL. This is a family game not an adult role playing site. No marring others, no having Player2 as a spouse, daughter.... Exception is in real life, but this is Not allowed in role playing. Reason: It always degrades into inappropriate content.

    No advertising role playing. If you and a few friends wish to role play ok, but you may not advertise or pm players and ask if they want to RP. If you only come on to RP and your buddies are not on, then you do not RP.

    Only RP in chat Here (away from others) or Buddy or PM ONLY.
    No Isle, Near, Global chat role playing is allowed. If in Buddy and other buddies don't like it, stop immediately and move to chat Here or PM.

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    VIEWING GENERAL FORUM THREAD: Don't be scammed
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 1 2011 11:48am
    Please never trade on a promise. This is scamming. Period.

    It's against the rules to "sell" or "trade" presents/gifts that are wrapped as the other person has no idea what is actually in the present. It could be a rotten tomato or a stick...

    So please do not let yourself be scammed. Play wisely and follow the rules of the game. That way you don't lose something you don't wish to lose. *laughing out loud!* :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 1 2011 1:08pm
    Also please be aware you can't wrap anything expensive and you can't wrap companions. So if someone says they have something that costs a lot in a present, no they don't. Please file an abuse report on the player for scamming.

    You also can't drop anything expensive. So while a few cats, dogs and such can be dropped, foals and other more expensive companions can't be.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 1 2011 1:08pm
    *didn't *sigh*
    REPLY: (by LeadMareGal) Dec 1 2011 5:00pm
    So is it not ok to give wrapped present to our buds through trade, even if we don't expect anything in return?
    I don't wan't to break the rules, but I do want to clarify, because I love to surprise my buds <

    (Quote that made me think that)"It's against the rules to "sell" or "trade" presents/gifts that are wrapped"
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 1 2011 6:31pm
    You may give presents as presents any time you wish, and that's great. :)

    What is against the rules is for example telling another that there is something very expensive in this present, and that they will trade for a horse. That...is scamming.

    Trading a present for a present is fine too. As long as all realize the other present may be nothing (it sometimes does that) or it may be a twig or something. *laughing out loud!* So that players are not scammed. :)
    REPLY: (by SingingKitten) Dec 2 2011 2:33pm
    So, if you trade, say, 500k for a florida cracker, but it has to have a foal on it, is that against the rules because you could easily see the foal.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 2 2011 3:03pm
    Add the foal into the trade along with the horse. You can't trade a horse with the foal attached to the horse. It must be entered as two entries. One overall trade, but Player1 has the money, Player2 is selling 1. a horse and 2. a foal. :) Foal must be included at the time of the trade. Foals can't be wrapped as presents. They no likey enclosed boxes... :D
    REPLY: (by Secret) Dec 3 2011 6:26am
    I had this happen to me once when I first started! So DON'T fall for it...
    I have one question though if we notice it happining to a new player or anyone.... should we find a mod or just report it?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 3 2011 10:51am
    Please file an abuse report on the scammer. If there is a moderator on you can bring this to the moderators attention, sometimes they are actually trying to play and miss things occasionally. Otherwise just file the report. You could also pm the new player and tell them to be sure and do a fair trade, that expensive items or foals can't be wrapped. Don't put the other player down, just inform them of how the game works. :)
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    VIEWING GENERAL FORUM THREAD: Paying For Jumping Spots
    REPLY: (by Fire) Dec 23 2011 5:26pm
    Lately I've had many players pm me offering to pay me to disconnect so they can have my spot in Simple Jumping. I can't speak for everyone, but I find this incredibly annoying. Does anyone else agree or am I alone here?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 25 2011 8:50am
    Locking this thread.

    Paying for places in Competitions is strictly against the rules. Please file an abuse report on any player found doing this.

    It is against the rules to trade on a promise.

    Players may NOT pay others to win, lose or place, or enter at a specific spot or drop out of a comp.

    The only thing they may do is pay everyone who enters the same amount so that a competition might possibly be full. Or, they may say if the comp. is full then I will pay all who enter. We do go ahead and allow this. Yes, it's trading on a promise, however you don't have to enter if you don't want to and your horse will gain at least 1 exp. if you complete the comp. Cheaper than training pens. *laughing out loud!*

    If...the person doesn't follow though with their promise you may file an abuse report and violations will be assigned.
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    VIEWING GENERAL FORUM THREAD: Who does what on the game
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 4 2012 12:06pm
    For clarification:

    Who does abuse reports?
    NightMare
    Miranda
    DesertPaint

    Who does chat flags?
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    Who does support mail:
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    Who has access to players account info?
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    Who can ban players?
    2 Moderators
    NightMare
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    DesertPaint

    No other person has access to any of these things except those stated. :)

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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 4 2012 12:07pm
    Add on for those who might be confused:

    DesertPaint is Connie in support mail. :)
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    Also note: We do NOT have undercover moderators. Nor moderator helpers. :)
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    VIEWING GENERAL FORUM THREAD: Some Helpful tips About horseisle. Newbies
    REPLY: (by Ryuk) Jun 23 2012 3:05am
    Some players may know it... This is made for newbies

    So First i will write About How to catch Big Fishes, How to catch one?

    Position the crosshair wherever you want to cast and then hold the mouse button down. The fishing line will plop in the water and slowly sink. If the lure gets into a fishes mouth, you will have caught it. Click the mouse a few times to start reeling it in.
    The larger fish is worth more. Every time you catch a fish, you lose an earth worm.

    Hint: If you reel a fish in too fast the line will break, so only click enough to keep the fish moving out of water.


    It's actually pretty easy once you get the hang of it. Especially when you're catching the big fishes, patience is the key.

    When you've gotten the lure into a fish's mouth, click and hold the mouse button as long as the fish keep moving up. When it stops and starts to go lower, click and hold again. Do this until you've caught the fish.
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    2- Horse isle chat :) The commands ? For future help


    !mutelogins - Mutes all logins and disconnects

    !unmutelogins - Cancels the previous command

    !muteglobal - Mutes Global chat

    !muteads - Mutes Ads chat

    !mutenear - Mutes Near chat

    !mutebuddy - Mutes Buddy chat

    !mutebr - Mutes all buddy requests

    !mutehere - Mutes Here chat

    !muteisland - Mutes the island chat of the isle you're on

    !muteall - Mutes every chat

    !mutepm - Mutes all PMs

    !mutesocials- Mutes all the socials actions

    !autoreply "message" - Messages automatically to anyone who PMs you

    !autoreply - Cancels the previous command


    !dance - Use this command to make your character dance. Add as many U, D, R, L as you like. (U=up, D=down, R=right, L=left) Example: !dance URLDLUD
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    3- Horse isle profiles Colours & Font =]

    Colours :-


    Silver
    Grey
    Black
    White
    Maroon
    Purple
    Lime
    Brown
    Red
    Orange
    Yellow
    Green
    Olive
    Teal
    Aqua
    Navy
    Fuchsia
    Pink

    How to Put them ? [colourhere]text Example ([red] HI)

    --Font--

    Underline: [u]text[/u]

    Bold: [b]text[/b]
    Example: Horses are ([b])cool([/b]).

    Italics: [i]text[/i]
    Example: Horses are cool.


    Hint: To put the text in horses' profiles normal, put [/i] before the text.
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    4- Shortcuts The F Buttons :)


    F5 - Close the Horse Isle window

    F6 - Use the telescope

    F7 - Dismount and remount the horse you last mounted

    F8 - Grab all objects off the ground

    F11 - Expand Horse Isle window

    F12 - Takes you to your ranch
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    5- Found things while roaming ? Where to sell them

    Acorns & Walnuts: Minnie, owner of Treeton Food Store, can make some nutbread for acorns and walnuts both 10 pieces. The nutbread can be sold to Pablo on Art Isle for $500 each.

    Berries: Sandra in Flipperton buys blackberries, blueberries, cranberries, huckleberries, strawberries, raspberries and thimbleberries for $100 per 10 pieces.

    Cattails: Filmore (the first little pig who lives in the strawhouse) on Cloud Isle buys cattails for $100 per 10 pieces.

    Coconuts and Haybales: Donna at the Crystalton livery stable buys haybales, 25 pieces for $3000. She'll also buy coconuts, 25 pieces for $750.

    Copper Ore: Nicolette in Chillton buys Copper Ores for $30 each.

    Dandelions and Strong Skinny Branches: Krista in Whiskerton will pay $100 for every 10 branches or 10 dandelions you bring her.

    Earthworms: Davy on Loch Isle will buy 10 earthworms for $500.

    Feathers: Allaire lives in a cabin in the middle of the Mystic Forest on Saddle Isle. She'll buy black feathers for $50, peacock feathers for $100 and sparkling feathers for $150.

    Grasshoppers: Joylyn in Treeton buys grasshoppers for $100 each.

    Honeycombs: Evelynn in Wington, Bird Isle pays $75 for each.

    Lizards and Scorpions: Dakota in Santon on Desert Isle buys lizards for $100 each and scorpions $200 each. Also Carlotta who lives in the skull on Dust Isle will give you a diamond for every 25 scorpions you bring her.

    Logs: Rupert in Chillton, Snow Isle buys logs for $50 each.

    Moon Beams: Selena in Ashton, Lava Isle, pays $42 for each.

    Oranges: Charla Mae in Hotton, Desert Isle buys oranges for $150 per 7 pieces.

    Pearls and Shells: Deidra on Hoof Isle pays $300 for each pearl and $25 for each shell.

    Pinecones: Elizabeth on Bone Isle pays you $2000 for 50 pieces. Notice that you have to bring her 50 at a time.

    Pixie Dust: Mrs. Claus on Chistmast Isle pays $250 for 15 pieces.

    Pumice Stones: Freddy in Ashton, Lava Isle pay $75 for each.

    Red Pinecones: Twig in Eartip Forest will pay $1000 for each.

    Rotten Tomatoes: Shark Soup Brady, owner of Skullton Tavern on Pirate Isle, gives you one pearl for 10 rotten tomatoes.

    Venetian Food: The third pig who lives in the stickhouse on Cloud Isle will pay $100 for every 5 pieces.
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    VIEWING GENERAL FORUM THREAD: Re: Player Feedback and Opinions
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 6 2012 9:45am
    We value player feedback. Yes we do read it IF it is polite and IF it is constructive. This includes things one doesn't like but please keep such posts polite and constructive.

    Feedback that is doing nothing but trashing the game will be deleted. Feedback that is not constructive and is argumentative will be deleted. We do not allow arguments, fighting on this game.

    Also here are a few things that perhaps you are not aware of:

    1) We are in the US and as such are required to follow COPPA Federal Laws and Regulations. (Childrens Online Privacy Protection Agency) as well as laws in the Federal Trade Commission. This is a family game and we do have young children who play. This game is rated 8 and up.

    2) Most of our rules are based on the above. Those that are not are here to keep this game running smoothly and fairly/nicely. Many of the rules we have had to add in or alter due to players misusing them. So if you have a problem with lets say "No Trading On A Promise" take it up with the scammers who have made it to where we must put that up to protect the players. (Yes we ban scammers, but that doesn't help with the first scam.)

    3) We do what we can to protect our players, our players accounts and keep this a nice, safe game. This requires many rules to be in place. Most games have exactly the same rules if they have the same or a similar situation within the game.

    4) When players join this game they click on "Accept" that states they have read and agree to follow the rules of this game. This is a legally binding agreement and we hold players to it. This includes the Rules, ToC (Terms and Conditions) and Expected Behavior. If you don't feel you can follow these and enjoy the game, then please find a different game to play.

    5) This game is owned by Joe and Miranda, it's their playground. They get to create it however they want as it's their game. They also get to set the rules for this game. If you don't wish to follow their rules, then perhaps you would prefer to find a different playground.

    6) Constructive feedback is appreciated, this includes things you might not like, but please remember to keep the conversation polite and constructive. If your communication skills are not able to do that then please refrain from posting.

    7) We do Not allow fighting, belligerence, cruelty, inappropriate language or behavior on this game and that includes in the forums. So any post that dissolves into such will be deleted. Any post that is regarding a topic that is not appropriate for this game or flat out against the rules/law (thus will not be added to the game) will be deleted.

    For those of you who want an "Adult Server" we can't do that and keep the family rating. The laws regarding that prohibit us from being able to do that as it would require a constant monitor even there and trying to keep young children off is always difficult. The owners do not want an "Adult" game they want a family game for all ages. It's their game they get to do that.

    So, please realize you have joined a family game where young children play and keep all language and content/behavior appropriate for young children. If you don't intend to do so, please leave and find an adult game.

    We will ban or suspend players who break our rules. We will keep this a family game to the best of our ability.

    If you can't speak without using inappropriate language please check out the Dictionary. English is a huge language and there are many, many ways to express oneself and use appropriate language. Enlarge your vocabulary, learn new words. :)

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    VIEWING GENERAL FORUM THREAD: Have a problem with your account?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 8 2012 1:47pm
    If you have a problem with your account: Technical, or questions regarding your account please use the Contact Us link at the bottom of the page and contact Support. Please be sure to give your username so we can find your account.

    Do not post the problem in the forums. We will not discuss player accounts on the game. Accounts are considered confidential and will only be discussed via email with you directly.

    We will not give quest help in support, or game help there is a New Player Guide to help with how to play the game. Players can help you with quests, on game or here in the forums. :)

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    REPLY: (by DaveyBoy) Jul 31 2012 1:57pm
    What if we had a leasing system similar to HI2's? It would help out with any scamming that takes place, and players could lease out their llama's and camel's to people to get the award, without completely giving their horse and tack to them! We could also lease horses out to new players... if they want to lease a prettier horse for a longer amount of time than the 2 hours that a Fell or AM gives you. Players could also lease their horses out to trainers to exp train without worrying about not getting their horse back. The times could range from 1 minute (for the llama/camel awards) -1 hr-5hr-12hr-1 day- 2days-up to a week?

    Just an idea~~
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 31 2012 3:59pm
    Unfortunately we can't implement a lease system on this game as there is on HI2. One of the reasons HI2 was created, so there could be a lease system which would prevent the stealing.
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    VIEWING GENERAL FORUM THREAD: How to make money.
    REPLY: (by Ryuk) Aug 4 2012 2:09am
    Hi :) this is be second forums thread first one was "Some Helpful tips About horseisle. Newbies"

    So this is how you make money and i made it because i found many newbies kept asking this

    [Buy a Ranch]

    You’ve probably heard it a hundred times before as a money-making tip – it’s a popular suggestion and it’s at the top of my list because it is one of the best pointers you can get when it comes to making money!! Ranches are a luxury offered only to game subscribers, but luckily there are many players who will offer to sell you a Horse Isle subscription

    Once you buy your ranch, put up windmills!! When you first buy a ranch and have only a tee-pee on sight, you’re limited to only 2 outbuildings until you upgrade your ranch house. Windmills cost $120,000 each and will virtually pay for themselves in a matter of days. It’s tempting to build a barn before anything else so that you can have more than 5 horses, but I strongly suggest making windmills your priority. One windmill will make you $500 every 12-hour game day (that’s $500 every REAL hour, and yes, you’re still making money when you’re not logged on).


    [Use the Bank]

    If you have a lot of money, you’re not doing yourself any favors by carrying it around everywhere with you. The benefits of putting your money in the bank far outweigh those of carrying it around with you (which I suspect is only being able to buy any horse you want whenever you want?). When you carry your money around with you, you run the risk of something outrageous happening from having it fall out of your pocket while you drink in the fountain to having some pesky monkey on Jungle Isle swoop down and steal a hefty amount. Apart from that, you make interest on the money you have in the bank and obviously, the more money you have in the bank, the more interest you’ll make (read: FREE MONEY)! I make a point of never carrying more money with me than is absolutely necessary and always deposit everything I’m carrying with me into the bank when I sign off so that I have $0 on hand (if you have windmills it’s kind of neat to sign off with $0 on hand and sign back on 12 hours later with something like $6,000+).

    [Pick Things Up]

    With a few exceptions, I suggest you pick up everything you stumble across because somewhere on the isles there is an NPC who will buy it from you for more than you’ll get for it at the store. Buying a shed for your ranch comes in handy when you want to use your inventory as a money-maker as it allows you to carry 60 items instead of just 40 (or 80 if you have 2 sheds). Below is a composite list of who will buy what from you and for how much (this is not everything… if you know of something I forgot, comment on it here!).

    Acorns and Walnuts: For every 10 acorns and 10 walnuts you gather, you can get Minnie in Treeton to whip up some of her nutbread. Pablo on Art Isle will buy the bread from you for $500 each. 50 acorns and 50 walnuts = 5 nutbreads = $2,500
    Berries: Berries can be found all over the place on the isles – either randomly on the ground or in bushes. Blackberries, blueberries, cranberries, huckleberries, strawberries, raspberries, and thimbleberries can all be sold to Sandra in Flipperton (Dolphin Isle). She’ll buy 10 of each for $100, so if you can manage to gather up 50 of each, you’ll leave her cabin with $3,500.
    Cattails: Gathering cattails for reasons other than quests won’t benefit you until you’re able to go to Cloud Isle, but once you can, Filmore (the first little pig who lives in the house of straw) will buy 10 for $100. 50 cattails = $500
    Coconuts and Haybales: Sell these to Donna at the livery stable in Crystalton (price info to follow… I’m not certain how much she pays).
    Copper Ore: Nicolette in Chillton will buy Copper Ore for $30 each. 50 copper ore = $1,500
    Dandelions and Strong, Skinny Branches: Sell these to Krista in Whiskerton. She buys bundles of 10 for $100. 50 dandelions = $500, 50 branches = $500
    Earthworms: Davy on Loch Isle will buy 10 earthworms for $500. 50 earthworms = $2,500
    Feathers: Peacock feathers and little black feathers are pretty abundant on all the isles and once you can go to Cloud Isle, you’ll also stumble upon some sparkling feathers. Allaire lives in the little cottage in the middle of Mystic Forest on Saddle Isle – once you’ve gone through the “maze” once or twice, she’s actually really easy to get to. She buys little black feathers for $50, peacock feathers for $100, and sparkling feathers for $150. 50 little feathers = $2,500, 50 peacock feathers = $5,000, 50 sparkling feathers = $7,500
    Grasshoppers: Joylyn in Treeton buys grasshoppers for $100 each. 50 grasshoppers = $5,000
    Lizards and Scorpions: Dakota in Santon buys lizards for $100 each, but she prefers scorpions which she pays $200 each for (this is not your only option for scorpions… see further down the list). 50 lizards = $5,000, 50 scorpions = $10,000
    Logs: Rupert in Chillton buys logs for firewood and pays $100 for each. 50 logs = $5,000
    Oranges: Charla Mae in Hotton will buy oranges in bunches of 7 for $150. 49 oranges = $1,050
    Pinecones: Elizabeth on Bone Isle will only buy pinecones from you if you bring her 50 at a time, but she pays $2,000 for all of them. 50 pinecones = $2,000
    Red Pinecones: Red pinecones aren’t as commonplace as a regular pinecone, but they’re worth a lot more! Twig who lives in Eartip forest (north of Earton) will buy them for $1,000 each. 50 red pinecones = $50,000
    Scorpions: Apart from selling them to Dakota in Santon, you can also give scorpions to Carlotta on Dust Isle (Carlotta is a spider that lives in the skull on Dust Isle). For every 25 scorpions you bring her, she’ll give you a diamond. 50 scorpions = 2 diamonds
    Venetian Food: Like cattails, venetian food doesn’t serve much of a purpose outside of quests until you’re able to go to Cloud Isle. The second little pig (who lives in the house of sticks) buys them in bunches of 5 for $100. 50 venetian food = $1,000
    [Make Diamond Necklaces]

    Making diamond necklaces (or rather, gathering the material to make diamond necklaces) can be an extremely tedious process, but the pay-off is tremendous!! You are, of course, not limited to how you go about gathering the material necessary. Gold ore can be found in rock piles sometimes and diamonds can be found in the desert (or occasionally you’ll receive one for a quest), however making diamond necklaces in bulk will become a bit easier process once you can go to Pirate Isle. Diamonds can be “mined” (by doing simple math problems that include addition, multiplication, division, and other things such as picking out prime numbers) on the skull side of Pirate Isle – it takes a little while to gather up 50 diamonds, but you’ll definitely hone up on your math skills while you’re at it!! Gold ore can be “sifted” on the crossbones side of Pirate Isle. Sifting for ore doesn’t require any skills – you don’t have to answer riddles or math problems or anything – but it can become really monotonous. REALLY. REALLY. Monotonous. Often times people will try to recruit others to sift gold for them, and I can’t say I blame them, but if you’re paying someone else to do the dirty work, you won’t see the same profit!! In the process of putting together diamond necklaces, you’ll have to make a lot of trips to Whiskerton and for this reason I suggest you always go to and from Pirate Isle via the ship on Bird Isle; every time you gather 50 gold ore, you’ll have to make a trip to Whiskerton to turn it into 5 gold chains. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. To make 50 diamond necklaces you’ll need 50 gold chains, 50 gold ore, and 50 diamonds. Each gold chain costs $100 to make and each necklace costs $500 to make (in other words, $600 a necklace) so with having to spend $30,000 just to make the necklaces in the first place, you’ll probably want to make sure you have some money on hand to begin with! Once you have 50 diamond necklaces, sell them on ROCK ISLE – no other rock store pays more for ANY stones or jewelery than the one on Rock Isle. 50 diamond necklaces (sold on Rock Isle) = $617,500. Like I said, tedious, but worth it!! If you’re feeling extremely motivated and want to see an even bigger pay off, you can take your first 50 diamond necklaces to Christmas Isle, wrap them, make 50 more and then unwrap the other 50 and sell 100 at once. 100 diamond necklaces (Rock Isle) = $1,235,000
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    REPLY: (by AdderPaw) Dec 7 2012 10:46am
    I think, in my opinion. That there should be a payment option of paying on a mobile device. Because, that is all I have that I would be able to pay on for myself. I just think it would be easier to pay that way and Horse Isle can make more profits because most people I bet have a Phone they can pay on and not a credit card. Hope yall take into consideration my idea thanks. :)

    AdderPaw from Chestnut
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 7 2012 4:45pm
    It would be nice, however there is a pretty high fee that we would have to pay to be able to do that, thus subs would have to cost quite a bit more. We also are a smallish game and not set up to be able to do it that way.

    Thus only PayPal is available, or cash / check / money order.

    Sorry
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    REPLY: (by NightMare) Feb 11 2013 4:00am
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 7 2013 5:16pm
    1) The game is maxed. So no new barns, no new anything.

    The ONLY things at this point that can and will be added in are a new breeds, new companions and new quests from time to time. Period.

    Nothing else CAN be added in it's not possible. The game is maxed. I'm sorry if you don't like this, but noting can be done. Because of this HI2 was created. So if you wish to continue playing on HI1 you most certainly may do so and are welcome!

    However please do not expect it to be updated as often as it has been in the past.

    Do not expect new things such as barns, or any other new content besides the horses, companions and quests.

    We can't bring old breeds back they are deleted. This is why we won't (probably) be doing more re-dos because players scream that they didn't want it and want us to bring back old and at that point deleted content.

    We can't add more colors it's not possible.
    REPLY: (by NightMare) Feb 11 2013 4:01am
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 7 2013 8:22pm
    Maxed means no new programming can be added in. HI1 is programmed in the old Adobe Flash php programming language and it's pretty much a block of programming. That is the core programming. Nothing more can be added to that as it has reached it's limit. Adding more crashes the game.

    HI2 is programmed in the modulated new Adobe Flash php which can be updated.

    So HI1 can have a few peripheral things: horses, companions and quests. Other than that there really isn't much if anything that can be added in. Nor can things be altered as it's all mixed in together.
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    REPLY: (by Ritakna) Jul 3 2013 3:57am
    Hi, just a quick question.

    As a non-subscriber it says I get one minute of playing time per 8 minutes of passing time, subject to load.

    What does subject to load mean? -feeling slightly thick- if its busy I have wait longer for a playing minute? or that the admins can change this whenever they please?


    Also, is there any chance of earning playing time quicker? It might help increase the number of players on at a time if they can play for longer as then people of different timezones could overlap playtime more easily. :)

    Rit.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 3 2013 11:28am
    There needs to be a reason to pay to play = subscribe. So to have unlimited play time one must subscribe to that server.

    You gain 1 minute of play time every 8 real minutes. Load refers to the number of players on the server. Servers can handle up to 150 players per server. Since we are no where near that at this time, the "load" issue isn't really important.

    Load - if the server is at capacity subscribed players will get priority for being able to log onto the game.

    :)
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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 17 2013 9:27am
    Never ever share your password with ANY other person Ever for any reason!

    It's against the rules to share a password/account with any other
    person. You and you alone are responsible for your account and
    whatever happens on your account. Should the other person break the
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    I have removed a post where a player was asking others to share password so she or others could do quests for this. Please remember this is strictly against the rules and you risk a permanent ban from the game for going onto another persons account to "quest for them."
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    REPLY: (by GoldenGelding) Dec 6 2016 9:29am
    Would it ever be possible to remove different chat filters like *laughing out loud!*= *laughing out loud* or adding extra P's to a word turning into *petting a pretty pony*, because= because (because hey, how else are we going to say beauty contest ;)
    Anyone else interested in seeing if that can happen?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 6 2016 11:56am
    Type. :)

    Beauty Contest is Beauty Contest.

    l o l is Laughing Out Loud, there isn't any other reason to use that. P p p is Petting a pretty pony.

    Spell properly and no problems. HI does not approve of texting/leet speak, actually it's against the rules to use it. Though we don't get very picky on it unless an entire sentence is in text speak then violations might be given.

    It doesn't take that long to type out a word. :)
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    REPLY: (by OrientExpress) Mar 14 2020 10:56am
    Hello everyone that still plays as I do!

    I was wondering, and this mainly goes out to the artists and creators of the game, if there will be any updates at all since it's been quite a long while now.
    While I am happy I can still play the game, I am somewhat sad to see it getting a lot less attention and all time and energy going into HI3 when there are still people trying to enjoy the older two games and still log in on a regular basis.

    It would be great to get at least one update - no matter the nature (new breed, companion, tack, quests, etc.) - every two or three months. It would certainly make both HI1 and 2 more enjoyable and playworthy again. Especially for the long term players or those who stick around even after all the ups and downs. :)
    REPLY: (by MellyMonster) Mar 17 2020 8:11am
    Any sort of feedback/acknowledgement from J&M themselves would be greatly appreciated but I doubt this will happen? What with corona, i'm sure more people are going to start playing again due to boredom and self isolation
    REPLY: (by Jbreezy) Mar 17 2020 8:37am
    Agreed. There were over 30 people on yesterday. I've suggested lowering the price of pellets and high end tack about three times to adhere the poor economy.
    REPLY: (by MellyMonster) Mar 21 2020 11:08am
    Tbh I think it's rude how there's no update, or personal feedback from the owners, it takes a few minutes to reply in this day and age.
    REPLY: (by Red) Mar 22 2020 5:06am
    We had almost 60 players online today. A response really would be appreciated.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 22 2020 12:48pm
    At this time, I think the owners are waiting to see what happens with Flash.

    We assume and very much hope someone will come up with a way to keep the games going, but as of now, all we know is there are several people still working on this.

    Investing time and energy into a Flash game right now is not really productive.

    HI3 is still having main content added as fast as possible, and this is taking a great deal of time to do.

    None of us want HI1 or HI2 to stop. There are no plans at all to shut them down. However we also need to be realistic, And... It's possible the games might need to be "tweaked" a bit to work with whatever comes up, so adding new content only to have to tweak it is kind of counter productive...

    To add to this our artist's computer did a complete crash with the hard drive. On that hard drive was the software to create horses. At this time, it's old software and no longer available, so she can't get it again, though she continues to search for it.

    Adobe Creative Suite 4 or 5. For those of you who want to know. *laughing out loud!* The game is done in 4, 5 will allow you to convert to 4 but that's it.

    New quests and other content can be added, but again right now the time and focus is HI3. As that game will continue, is flexible and can be added to, updated, etc.

    Probably about August or September we will know more about Flash accessibility. And whether or not we can get more content in, if it can be in the exact same format, or what...

    Hang in there! :)
    REPLY: (by MadHare) Mar 24 2020 7:46am
    Thanks DesertPaint. I don't care so much about new companions or breeds but at least we have a timeline now.
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    REPLY: (by Equestriance) May 19 2020 3:10pm
    Is there somewhere we can purchase the soundtrack to this game? I love the music and would love to support the artist!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 20 2020 12:39pm
    All of the tracks from the game can be found by the artist that created them on bandcamp. h t t p: // horseisle. bandcamp. com/ The composer is Joe Schwebke.

    Remove the spaces. *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by Equestriance) May 21 2020 11:38am
    Thank you!!
    REPLY: (by GingerCurtau) Nov 19 2020 7:33pm
    that is one site I have put in notice to the game and moderators to post both sites here for this and the next games music
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    REPLY: (by Hannahmay) Jun 15 2020 11:10pm
    Hey all! I know people have discussed that the game is full, and if it is ignore this post. But I was curious if it was possible at all to add a feature where you could stop people from warping to you if you've muted them, or if there could be something added to where you can stop all players from warping to you all together. I know there is a feature where people cannot interact with you through socials if they're muted (the ! one), so it could be similiar to that. It could be !MUTEWARP or even !MUTEPLAYERWARP or something. Not sure if that would be able to occur on this game.

    I know that we aren't adding anything until Flash Player is confirmed, but it is just a suggestion that I thought could be interesting.

    Thanks!
    REPLY: (by Passion) Jun 15 2020 11:12pm
    I think this is a good idea !!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 16 2020 12:42pm
    For HI1 I don't think that is possible. The warp system is somewhat different than other things.

    It would probably have to be more along the lines of remove the ability to warp to All players. That would not work well for many players.

    If someone is warping to you without permission and you aren't in a group of others, please file an abuse report as it's considered harassment.

    I can see warp commands.

    If you are in a group of other players then the person may have warped to one of them and not you, also some of the games warp spots can be very close to where you might be at that time.

    However I can see in the logs if someone gives a warp command to go to another person. Then I can look and see if they were just warping to jumping for example, or to a player to capture a horse or whatever.

    If it's harassment, then a violation would be assigned.

    If not, then the report is deleted.
    REPLY: (by Hannahmay) Jun 17 2020 1:28pm
    Ok cool, good to know, I was just curious. Thanks so much for the feedback. :)
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    VIEWING GENERAL FORUM THREAD: Banning / Violations Clarification
    REPLY: (by Hannahmay) Jun 19 2020 6:50pm
    Hi all! I hope everyone is doing well this evening.

    I've been playing this game for over ten years, and have thoroughly enjoyed the gameplay, as well as the friends that I have made throughout HI1. However, I had some questions regarding the rules, banning, and violation points. I know that I could e-mail support regarding this, but I wanted to post it on the forums, as when I was chatting with buddies, they had the same/similar questions.

    When you're "temp banned" on this game, you're shown a screen that states that you would not have gotten temp banned if it wasn't for a specific reason, and (I believe) it also says to email support with questions. Throughout my time on this platform, I have seen people get banned when they have very little violation points (or none at all). I was always under the impression that "temp bans" were to review your account after 10 violation points. However, discussing with my buds, some of them have been getting temp banned who have 0-5 vios. Now, you may be thinking, as an admin: "well, they were temp banned because some of their vios that were reviewed were more 'severe'." And the question I have is: what is the more "severe vios"? I know that some are worth more points, but what causes you to get TEMP BANNED for something, versus getting 3-4 vio points, if your vio was more "severe"? What are the linear, consistent rules and differences between what I am asking? **I know you may be thinking, see the "rules" section of the website! This, however, just states what you can and cannot do on the website, not the questions that I am asking.**

    I think many players are confused because many do not see transparency with vios. I have buds who have 11-12 vios who have never been temporary banned.... but then I have some who have zero vios, get flagged for something, and get banned for multiple days. I don't remember this being an issue when I used to play, so maybe there are newer policies that I am not aware of. I am not asking this to be argumentative! I'm genuinely just a curious person, who loves the game that I have spent so long on! I'm kind of a nerd with this stuff, and I love learning more about what the administration deems as "severe", since this word has so many different connotations + explanations.

    Thank you guys so much - and thanks for keeping me on my toes and interested in such a cool game.

    Hannahmay, pinto server
    REPLY: (by Pinecone) Jun 19 2020 7:02pm
    I'd definitely like better clarification for the reason for bans in the case of a player with few or no prior violation points. If a player is banned I feel they should be made aware of their error, especially if said ban was temp. If one did not receive any vios, but did receive a ban, how are they to know what they did incorrectly, and how to fix it in the future?

    As for violation points themselves, I'm also quite curious as to what the parameters are for severity, and what actions correlate with what amount of points. I am sure that if players had a better and more open line of communication regarding their vios and errors, that admins would be met with less hostility from players, and likely fewer violation points and bans in the future as well.
    REPLY: (by Passion) Jun 19 2020 7:03pm
    I think a clarification on this would just be nice to clear everything up for everyone. I know multiple players who have asked about it, and buds who have been confused about the whole process.
    REPLY: (by Pinecone) Jun 19 2020 7:04pm
    I'd definitely like better clarification for the reason for bans in the case of a player with few or no prior violation points. If a player is banned I feel they should be made aware of their error, especially if said ban was temp. If one did not receive any vios, but did receive a ban, how are they to know what they did incorrectly, and how to fix it in the future?

    As for violation points themselves, I'm also quite curious as to what the parameters are for severity, and what actions correlate with what amount of points. I am sure that if players had a better and more open line of communication regarding their vios and errors, that admins would be met with less hostility from players, and likely fewer violation points and bans in the future as well.
    REPLY: (by SnootBoop) Jun 19 2020 7:11pm
    Adding to what Hannah has said, obviously buds and I have talked about what vios we had gotten whether by accident or not fully reading the rules after we've been back. We noticed that the points seem a bit random. We had got vios for the exact same thing, except she received 4 and I had only gotten 2. It seems a bit odd as to why it shouldn't all be the same.
    REPLY: (by Yellerhead) Jun 19 2020 8:55pm
    I do feel vios that don't immediately score a lot of points should not be cause for a temp ban. Severity of the violation should absolutely be reflected in point amount. A lot of players don't experience this.

    I also wish we would receive the logs that caused us to get banned as a form of receipt. Other platforms have this measure in place to ensure there is no confusion, as well as being a useful reminder of what not to say or do & of the specific rules of the site you're using.

    It feels to me that the system for evaluating violation points is whatever the moderators/admins think is best for the given situation. While this doesn't seem like a huge problem for a niche site, it's definitely caused a lot of unrest amongst players who receive different consequences for the same actions. There doesn't seem to be a specific system in place for ranking the number of points for certain vios. If the system is there, I feel it needs to be a lot more transparent and easy to find. If there isn't a specific method for point tallying, I suggest implementing one that includes criteria such as potential harmfulness, neglect, safety/security, etc.

    I'm aware this is a family-friendly game with children being the intended audience. However, we can't keep ignoring the fact that the vast majority of players are adults, and has been for quite some time. We need much more transparency with the way consequences are enforced and why certain repercussions are chosen over others. The system is far too vague.
    REPLY: (by Hannahmay) Jun 19 2020 9:06pm
    I want to thank everyone for showing their own unique perspectives on this situation. It is obvious that this is not a singular experience, and in the hours that this post has been up we have gotten so much feedback on specific questions that we would like to see answered. I want to thank all of you for the support and comments, as many players-myself included- may not truly understand how widespread this is.

    Regardless of the nicheness of the website, whether this game has 10 players or 1 million, the need for the direct lay-out of the updated rules, regulations, and violation point "severity" is necessary, as Yellerhead noted.

    I also don't know if rules have been changed over time - for example, I remember getting vios in 2015 for referencing Google in global, as it was considered leading players to other websites/"cheating" by using player guides... but in the past week, I have seen moderators specifically tell players to Google things when they have questions, in global. (This was an additional question I had, that I did not address in my original post. Apologies!)

    Again, just wanted to note that we all love this game and are only posting our critiques so that we can enjoy the game to its fullest capacity. Many of us want to prevent each other from getting vios, and a better understanding of the system can help do just that. :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 20 2020 12:55pm
    For bans/suspensions regarding violations, we normally wait until a player reaches 10 or more before we suspend the account, usually for a short time.

    However, there are some things we ban immediately on regardless of points. Under these circumstances, usually what we want is the player to contact us via E mail so we can discuss your account, and the reason you were suspended with you. We can't do that on game.

    Reasons for such suspension include but are not limited to:

    - Asking/sharing Discord or other social media (most common) player is allowed back normally after we have explained the reasons for this.
    - Sharing passwords, mail or accounts with another player.
    - Another person on your account.
    - Selling account or trying to.
    - Selling or trying to sell off game content or on game content off game.
    - Any mention of Roast Isle (this is a biggie and we have Zero tolerance for this.

    There are other reasons, but unless it's a perm ban there will be a message to please contact us via E mail. There is a link below you can use or just send it to the mail address given in the ban message.

    Also, for the actual ban message you see at the top of the page when you are banned, that is usually a generic message... Just contact us if you have questions.

    Remember, HI1 is a children's/family game. We are rated for ages 8 and up. We Do have young children who play here. And even if we didn't, we are still rated for that, thus All language, content and behavior Must be ok for young children at all times. Regardless of chat channel as on HI1 PM chat can bounce to Global if a player is disconnected for some reason.

    We do not allow players to share social media after all you could be asking a 10 yr old to contact you off game with no supervision... That is predatory content. Discord is especially inappropriate as there is no moderation there. Roast Isle is nothing more than a sewer of bullying, threatening, intimidating, harassing behavior and content. None of which we tolerate at all on Horse Isle. While we do have parental controls on HI1 they aren't great, thus we do moderate and control content here.

    The rules have not changed really. Players have changed, and what once was something we didn't have to watch our for now is. That (for the most part) being social media/off game contact. People, we do have young children here. Keep it on game only. Then no problems.

    We also tend (as in real life) to have acerbic players. People are people, and that's fine as long as nasty behavior is kept off game. Be nice and polite and no problems.

    Horse Isle is a place to come to and get away from real life and all it's issues. This didn't really used to be a problem for years... Only very occasionally did someone bring something on game, and usually quit when requested to do so. If not, they were banned.

    Now, many people insist on bringing real issues onto the game. Many times especially for HI1 those issues are not age appropriate for all players. We are not rated T for Teen, we are rated G for all ages/General audience.

    Many times we request someone to remove something or keep it off game, where in the past this was done without issue, now many people refuse to comply. Thus bans.

    HI2 is still fairly strict but not quite as strict as HI1. HI3 is quite lenient in private chat. Not so lenient in public chat as young children are still allowed on that game, but it's lenient in private chat and party chat (unless someone complains or it's really raunchy.) Thing is we do not monitor private or party chat on HI3.

    However, this is HI1, a game set for all ages including very young children. People are most welcome to play this game, it's fun! But if they wish to do so, then they also need to comply with the rules, and some of those for this game are quite strict.
    REPLY: (by Pinecone) Jun 20 2020 10:33pm
    I can speak for myself and many others in saying we appreciate your timely response regarding our concerns, though I personally found the information offered to not quite address the specific concerns that we had brought forward. We are all well aware of the rules (and as good players, have read them!), and our questioning is not in dismissal of these rules. However, our concerns were regarding the inconsistencies in violation points, and how that system itself works. We are also aware of the issues that come with it being rated the way it is, and were not protesting that, and are respectful that we have chosen to play a game that is rated in the way that this one is. We understand that HI1 differs in rules than HI2 & HI3, however we are speaking strictly about this specific site, therefore we’ve specifically addressed it in HI1 forums. While violation points are an important feature put in place to keep the game safe and friendly, I do not understand why contacting an admin is necessary to understand a reason for a ban when the vio log can state the reason for individual vios. I’m also concerned regarding what system is in place for deciding punishment for actions? I can speak for myself and many others, we are adults, we understand the rules, and we slip up occasionally, often resulting in a flag and vio point (keeping negative content from the game!) however, the number of violation points deemed worthy for the same problem tend to vary, and we are concerned about the consistency of this system, and we were hoping for a more concise explanation. We appreciate the time you have taken to ease our concerns, and we mean to disrespect by inquiring and bringing this topic forward. Thank you.
    REPLY: (by Savy) Jun 20 2020 10:38pm
    I myself was always curious about how points were done too. And how accidental issues were handled too. I've seen some people get flagged and receive 4pts and then someone doing the same accident and get flagged receive one. So Im very confused and slightly concerned. I absolutely LOVE this game and it has such a special spot in my heart and hope it will be around for years to come! That way we can share our childhood with young ones in the future.
    REPLY: (by Pinecone) Jun 20 2020 10:40pm
    I apologize, *"We do not mean to disrespect."
    REPLY: (by Hannahmay) Jun 20 2020 10:50pm
    I want to thank DesertPaint for the response, as I think that it did address some of the concerns brought forth by the players. I also completely understand that you cannot address case-by-case analyses, and that makes total sense (respect for privacy). However, overall, I believe that the violation and banning point system inconsistency was still not addressed.

    I'm not asking for you to answer all of mine and others questions here - although it would be appreciated, it would be an exhaustive list - but what I am asking for is more consistency and more transparency. Two requests that I have, that I would love to see implemented into this game to allow for that consistency and transparency are:

    -When temp banned, instead of it saying "mail if you have concerns", include some kind of receipt or explanation for temp banning! This will allow for less email traffic on your end and less confusion on ours. It could simply be "violated x rule," and still include that text where it says to mail with any concerns.

    -A list - that all admins who give vios must have, I'm sure - of what each rule break is and what "number" it corresponds to (1 vio, 2 vios, 3 vios, for example harrassment = 1 vio, giving social media = 3 vios?)

    I want to thank all HI1, 2, and 3 administrators. I am aware that this is a niche game, but I think this is a much appreciated conversation. These forums are wonderful for these kinds of dialogues, and I love that we can talk about this with our administration and not be ignored. :) I for one appreciate that DP acknowledged the changing fan-base of this game. I'm not asking for rules to be changed or dismissed, but for some policies to be well laid out and explained to the player base, so we are less likely to get vios and bans in the future.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 21 2020 1:32pm
    There is a guideline set up by the owners for violations etc. In the last couple of years some things have had to change a bit due to the severity of the rule breaking.

    For example, sharing social media (before there was a Discord, etc.) was 1 point unless you gave contact info then it was either 2 or 4 (we don't have an option for 3) depending on what was shared specifically.

    Now, it's usually 4. The reason is because it takes a while to reach 10 points with 1 vio... So lots of players have been given personal contact info which is dangerous to do. Thus 4 points, and hopefully that will be a heads up, whereas 1 point is normally ignored.

    I see in chat where players say something like: Oh I do that I only have 2 or 3 points, so I can break that rule a few times before I have to worry about it.

    Um, no.

    Usually a single slip, or swear if caught by the filter is 1 point. If the player tried to avoid the filter, then it's 2 points. One for swearing and one for deliberately trying to avoid the filter and swear.

    If there is name calling, crude content/behavior then usually 2 points, though again it depends on the severity and exactly what happened and for how long...Was it a one time thing or did they keep it up for a bit...

    4 points are usually given for any type of racist, adult, violent content, sharing personal information specifically, asking players to go off game to contact them, cheating, scamming, bullying, sharing accounts/passwords/multiple accounts, Discord, Roast Isle...Anything that is severe. And sometimes, depending on the severity and what it is, a suspension or perm ban is given.

    Each incident is taken separately, thus one person may get a 1 point where another person may get 2 points... However the 2 point player already knew they weren't supposed to do that and deliberately did it anyway... That type of thing.

    So often right now anyway, violations seem to be meaningless to many players, they just ignore them. For those players a suspension is then given... It's Not permanent, it's a heads up and since the person is ignoring our violation warnings... It's my only option unfortunately.

    I do try to work with players, to be lenient when possible and if the player is really trying to conform to rules I will be more lenient than if a player is ignoring the rules because they don't intend/wish to follow them.

    I used to send messages to players when they were banned, however that message stays there staring at you for 2 months... That gets very annoying, and I can't remove it. And, if you are banned you can't always see it anyway... I do give a reason for the ban with the ban itself, but again... If you aren't logged on you won't see that. Only the generic message that the game blurps out.

    At this time, I'm the only admin. working on HI1. DesertMorn is the quest writer, and there are moderators.

    I'm also the only admin for support mail. Miranda is super busy these days and tries to get on and work on updates, and a variety of other issues when she can for HI1 and HI2. But many times she isn't able to get on for a day or two. Joe is massively busy and totally buried in HI3. *laughing out loud!*

    FrogLips is an admin on HI2 and HI3 but not on HI1, she is a mod on HI1. We just never got her here as there didn't used to be much work on HI1.

    It's really difficult to give an exact example for the vio's. Again, we have guidelines, but other than that it's up to me basically... And, I do take each incident separately as much as possible. That may end up seemingly biased, but honestly it's not. It's aimed specifically at that person and their overall behavior, problems and issues.

    The owners wanted a children's/family game. And while we do have more adults that play here we also have young kids. Many with their parents, or at least the parents are on part time.

    I realize the strictness, especially on HI1 is difficult for many people, still it's necessary for the safety of our players.

    It's also based on some things that have happened in the last 2-3 years... That being stalking off game in real life from sharing personal info on game. In some instances requiring Federal Restraining Orders... That's excessive, but it has happened.

    Bullying to the point of the player having to quit the game. Most of that takes place off game because the player chose to share their personal contact info and has social media. We have zero control over what happens off game, so when this happens and players contact us asking for help there is absolutely nothing we can do.

    I get this at least once every couple of weeks on one game or another, sometimes more often. It really bothers me that someone is being bullied/harassed. I can't do anything about it.

    So, I try to prevent that from happening in the first place by being super strict on the game. That means 4 points and a suspension until you contact me in support mail.

    I had 2 incidents last week of this on 2 different games, not going to give more info than that, but it's an on-going problem and one I consider to be very serious.

    Players are welcome to ask about something in the forums or contact me via support mail if you have a question regarding rules and/or violations you may have received.

    Google is allowed, however it depends on how it's used. If you can Google and right there in front of you is the answer, ok. If however Google sends you to another site then that's not ok. We have no control over other sites, some run password hacking programs, some contain viruses/malware, some ask for personal info. Thus we do not allow them to be shared. We do not have help sites, so for example telling someone to Google Horse Isle 1 riddles is a no no. It's not directly there where you can see it on the Google page, you have to click on a link that will take you to a different site. So... If you personally wish to Google that then share the answers with another player ok. But no sending the other player to Google for that.

    I much prefer to help you understand than to have to ban. (I hate banning people.)

    I work 7 days a week. Usually from around 12-1 pm until around 10-11 pm. It varies a bit due to my personal life. I check work off and on all day and evening most of the time. I do work on all 4 games and support mail, so it keeps me fairly busy. Thus when work is done I do take off for an hour or two now and then. I need a little "me time." *laughing out loud!*

    Verruckt is a moderator who is returning after quite a long hiatus, while she is not new, it's been quite a while. And, she has been playing other HI games with slightly different rules and methods of handling those rules. Please be patient and give her a chance to learn... :)

    Other moderators have also been away for quite a while and are returning off and on. HI1 is a little different... *laughing out loud!*

    If you feel a moderator is inappropriate please file an abuse report, that way I can see the chat and then explain to the mod what was not done properly.

    Also, as with many players, moderators have real life friends and family who play. So sometimes joking around with a specific player may seem a bit strange, but that person may be a sister, hubby, wife, dad, mom, or RL friend, depending on the moderator. :)
    REPLY: (by MadHare) Jun 22 2020 5:48am
    Um, DP, if you can't do anything about a player being mean on Roast Isle (off game), then why can you punish a player for:
    "- Selling or trying to sell off game content or on game content off game. "
    I thought anything off horse isle is the wild west but a player will be punished for trying to sell a horse off game? How would you prove this?
    REPLY: (by MadHare) Jun 22 2020 5:53am
    Anyways, the rest of the explanation makes a lot of sense because many of us definitely thought something weird is going on with getting different vio amounts for the same incident.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 22 2020 1:06pm
    It's actually breaking Federal laws to sell copyrighted material for real money. You don't own it, Durbin Development Inc. owns it. You may use the material when on game, but not off game in any way without permission from the owners. It's Fraud.

    As for arranging buying/selling for game money... Well, since it's against the rules to discuss/share off game web sites the entire bit is a no no.

    So, if you get scammed tough luck. You are out gold or lose the horse, too bad. Keep all content ON GAME where we can see it and take action if needed.

    As to how we prove things, that's for us know. ;)
    REPLY: (by Frangipani) Jun 22 2020 9:14pm
    Hey DP, I've found this thread to be a good read, and I really appreciate you taking the time to address the concerns people have raised and respond to all of our comments. :)

    I just wanted to throw my two cents in here. I have noticed some discrepancies in how the filter acts / things that we get vios for and I was wondering if you could address that as well.

    For example, the phrase we type that gets changed to "what the horse poo" is obviously caught by the filter and changed. But I have gotten a vio for profanity by typing another abbreviation with the same word (heck my life). I didn't fight it at the time because it was only like a point or two, but it seems like it never should have happened. Why are some phrases considered profanity and some are just filtered out?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 22 2020 10:23pm
    Some things are not so much profanity as just vulgar or "nasty" words. For example the word that filters to "what the horse poo" isn't massively bad, but it can be used in a very nasty manner, thus it's filtered.

    The filter can only handle x amount of words. So those that were pretty bad, and those that were used the most frequently were put in. At this point, it's maxed so if we put something else in then we have to remove something.

    Some swear words are abbreviated to sort of text speak. Abbreviated or not they aren't allowed. Some of the abbreviations if you don't already know aren't quite so bad. Others however where you are deliberately trying to avoid the filter are not good.

    I'm not going to list them here, but for example lets say, *away from game for a bit* was a nasty word (it's not, but I'm using a common abbreviation as an example.) Yet most people don't spell it out, they do "*away from game for a bit*" so that would be 1 point as the player is not trying to avoid the filter and the word wasn't spelled out...

    Now if they do a f k or a-f-k that's trying to avoid the filter so that's 2 points. 1 for swearing and 1 for trying to avoid the filter.

    If they actually spelled it out and it's nasty that's either 2 points usually if caught by the chat flag. If it's nasty I frequently go look at the logs and if they avoiding the filter to say the word anyway, then it's 4 points.

    If a word is caught by the filter and changed, it's fine. No worries.

    My favorite is Structure withholding water... I really like that one. XD

    Though I don't recommend saying it in real life... People tend to look at you a bit funny. *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 22 2020 10:25pm
    Ok, filter changed my word. *rolling on floor laughing!*

    So that *away from game for a bit* is supposed to be A F K put together.

    I have a love (as in really funny) and a hate as in (oh come on let me type) thing with filters. :P
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    REPLY: (by Cactus) Oct 20 2020 11:56am
    I've been a player for well over 10 years and grew up with this game. I hate goodbye but, I understand it. I want everyone to share their favorite memories of the game before we all say goodbye! Juicy ones too! What's the worst that will happen?
    REPLY: (by CharredLatte) Oct 20 2020 12:25pm
    I am going to try to not drag-on with this, but I have severe ADHD and social anxiety. Socialising has never been very easy for me, but I have made so many friendships on horse isle.
    I remember being able to talk to all these players almost on the daily. Being able to escape whatever teenage angst I was probably dealing with.
    Even now as an adult this game brings so much joy to me, just being able to connect with everyone. I'm gonna miss it a lot <3
    REPLY: (by EmeraldDove) Oct 20 2020 12:39pm
    I'm definitely feeling some sort of way right now. I played this ALL the time growing up. It is weird knowing that our time is going to be up.... It was always a great game. I never got to 100% quest points... I hope I can before! What are we all going to do now?
    REPLY: (by Borealis) Oct 20 2020 5:06pm
    To add to Emerald, I've been playing for ten years and I always thought I'd get to 100% QP or catch a 100 UT wild before I had to say goodbye. I hate to see it go, nostalgia is so powerful and coming home to this game after school as a kid was a simple joy I will never replicate. Even now, as a working adult, I hop on to unwind, lonely on my home server, but I wouldn't trade it.
    REPLY: (by Kip) Oct 21 2020 2:04am
    I've been playing HI1 since I was 14, over a decade ago now. I love the quests, searching for items, and the little rush I would get anytime I stumbled upon a wild horse (I have *never* been successful with the Whisperer, it's always been by happen chance I find any wild). When I learned Flash was no longer going to be supported, I restarted my game and came here so I could do as many quests as possible. It's been years since I've been on Lava, Pirate, or Cloud Isles. Sadly, I don't think I'll be able to reach them before the game's imminent demise. I have loved playing this game over the years, in been a place of solace when home life wasn't so great, when I dropped out of school, when friends passed away. I'll miss this game dearly, and I just want to thank Joe and Miranda for pouring their heart and soul into this game. I've never felt anything less from this game, and I appreciate all you have done to keep it running for years.
    REPLY: (by Pinestorm) Oct 22 2020 8:55am
    I've been playing since around 2008, and it feels weird to see the game come to an end. I would go through periods where I'd only come on once every few months for a few minutes, but it still felt good to see some familiar usernames. It's a great community and one that I'll miss very much.
    REPLY: (by Eurydice) Oct 22 2020 7:09pm
    I've been playing since fourth grade, and every time I log on and hear that music and walk those iconic streets in Earton a wave of nostalgia hits me. I'm in tears saying goodbye to my pixel ponies and trotting around Earton one last time. My best memory is playing on my aunt's desktop, showing my little sister the fun quests, enjoying a cream soda. That was so many years ago, but I remember the exact same music that was playing. I also remember nervously sweating, because I bid 70k (more than 90% of my savings) on a palomino Hanoverian in a bidding war and was determined to win it. And I did win it, I was so proud!
    REPLY: (by DiamondDiva) Oct 24 2020 3:29am
    I've been playing since late 07 and honestly I'm so sad but so grateful its stayed alive for this long. I started on palo and moved to pinto when it started to die down. I luckily managed to keep both accounts alive whilst at university and I've met some wonderful people over the years. I now signed up for HI3 (haven't played yet) but theres something so retro and nostalgic about the set up of HI1 that just kind of feels like home to me. I've seen my fair share of drama, exp races for top and catching epic horses which is just exhilarating. I was never one for questing really because of my patience *laughing out loud!* but my favourite memories will def include my buds. Im a very shy person in real life and overthink ALOT but the fun and jokes we have, questing together, catching wilds and just having a good ol' natter is what I love the most, I'll never forget my buds <33
    REPLY: (by Borealis) Oct 25 2020 4:35pm
    I agree with you Diamond, the HI1 structure and graphics were so forgiving, and just simple, but wonderful. I tried both 2 and 3, and I couldn't get into them as much. I guess you just love what you know.
    REPLY: (by OutFoxed) Oct 26 2020 1:31pm
    I've been with this game since '07. I remember the joy of seeing Jenny's new art; popping into art buildings and seeing amazing mouse drawings; seeing super friendly mods and admin all the time. Maxing out capacity on every sever - and needing more!
    I learned about RPing here - way back when that was allowed on the forums.
    Working hard on quests and maintaining the top spot - when quests were coming out every month.
    When Cloud & Lava were added. The Whisperer and Pawneer added.
    After restarting my HI journey a couple years ago - I also got my first subscription and found the joy in creating a ranch, endless ponies, and even entering the competition world.
    Thank you to Miranda and Joe, DesertPaint - and the many other Mods and players that have made HI such a special and wonderful place.
    REPLY: (by Aphrodite) Oct 27 2020 12:29pm
    This game has been a constant throughout my whole life! The characters are all so iconic and I'm pretty heartbroken right now to hear the news. Whenever I get back on after a while without playing I still stop by and visit the place where I had my first ever ranch and 'say hi' to my favourite characters. I remember being a kid and wishing my real life was riding horses and doing quests for people. I still wish that, haha. I liked the second game too, but this one just felt so perfect to me. Man, I guess I kind of figured this game would be around forever.

    Thank you, Miranda and Joe, for making a fantastic game
    REPLY: (by Aphrodite) Oct 27 2020 12:33pm
    I remember when the servers were just flooded and people would do stuff like spontaneous horse releasing contests in Eartip Forest, and the general excitement of a new quest/horse/companion being added! I'd race home after school and immediately jump on the computer to play
    REPLY: (by Anomaly) Oct 27 2020 8:43pm
    like many others, ive played horse isle 1 since i was a lil kid, around 12 or 13 when i started playing :C i literally just rejoined to see if any one was on after another long period of not playing and am legit really sad to see the OG game go down like this!! i wont forget any of you guys and thanks for everything this community did <3
    REPLY: (by DefyGravy) Oct 28 2020 4:32am
    I have not been very active on HI for the last few years, and for a while now my favorite has been hanging out on my lonely home server, so not a lot of interaction with others.

    But I joined back in 2007, and HI1 has been such a constant for me for all of these years. It's amazing how attached I could get to the little pixel ponies <3
    My fondest memories are from waaaaay back, when all of my school friends played with me, and we would sit on our desktop PCs and call each other on the landline for hours. I also remember a time that a friend was teasing me in PMs, but accidentally sent a message about the potty dance into global, to widespread hilarity.

    I met my lifetime best friend on this game. For that I will always be thankful.

    Thank you to everyone who worked on this game, supported it, and made it such a lovely, idyllic place to come home to!
    REPLY: (by OhDeer) Oct 29 2020 7:29pm
    Oh man I've been playing off and on since I was a kid and I'll never forget this game. My sister and I end up playing around the holidays almost every year when I can't be at home and it reminds me of when we were kids. I remember playing this game with friends after school and at sleepovers, begging my parents for pawneer orders for Christmas and having fun contests at Eartip forest or leaving presents for "scavenger hunts".

    Thank you so much to Joe, Miranda, all the mods, admins, coders, artists and everyone involved in the making and maintaining of this game over the past few years. It meant a lot to have a place I could sort of 'come home to' as a kid when things were rough. And looking back now, it was especially important to have a space where it was safe to be a kid on the internet... where we could just have fun and nerd out on horse stuff.

    So again, thank you so much to everyone who made HI1 an amazing place to be for so many years! <3
    REPLY: (by AwayWeGo) Oct 31 2020 5:53am
    I've been playing since close to the very beginning and I am sad to see it go. It was always fun. Best memory, one weekend after I finally reached 75% I spent the entire weekend on Cloud. Cheered when I reached 100%. Yeah Horse Isle 1, thanks for the fun and memories. Will miss my little pixel ponies.
    REPLY: (by Silhouette) Nov 1 2020 5:34pm
    I'm going to sound super emotional about this and honestly, it's because it is a little.

    I don't think anyone would be able to understand the impact this game had on me at the time young life.
    I was 12 when I started playing this game, over 10 years ago.
    I started on the Palomino server as HorsesRuleMe. I made so many incredible friends and more importantly, this kept my heartwrenching love of horses alive.

    I was never someone that could ride often or had their own horse. And this game has a beautiful community of people that have definitely got me through the worst times of my life.

    I'm sitting here thinking of all the hours, days, late nights I spent playing this game. I'm thinking of all the friends I made from this game, the friends I got to go to coffee with as a result of this game.
    So HI - thank you. Thank you if you are reading and we never spoke, thanks if were friends, thank you if you ever saw my username pop up on your screen. Thank you for over 10 years of wholesomeness, love, and friendship. I have no doubt this game contributed to me still being here, and as dramatic as that sounds, I believe it with all of me.

    Finally, thank you, Miranda, and Joe. You created something really beautiful here, and I know we are just people on the internet but we see and love the work you did here.

    With love,
    Silhouette (HorsesRuleMe / Sarah) xx
    REPLY: (by Yahoo) Nov 2 2020 7:21pm
    Well, I started back in '08 on Pinto, when nearly every server was poppin' on the daily. I honestly made some of the best friends, worked my way through my most cringe 'xD' phase, and somehow after 12 years and on my second account (unfortunately after my first one timed out) manage to make my way back on once and awhile even with a demanding schedule with school and work.

    My most prominent memories probably include that one time I changed my username from Yahoo to Bing, and my buddies hated it SO much I changed it back probably within a week (hahah), taking turns with my sister, who played on Dun, on our desktop computer, and that one time I got in trouble with my mom because I wanted to play so bad I snuck out of bed and she caught me playing on the computer at like 12am.

    Honestly it's weird to admit how a horse game was such a pivotal part of my childhood, and even adulthood, but it really, truly is so bittersweet to say goodbye. I'm not ready now, and probably won't be when the time comes. Unsure of how I will spend my free-time now when I don't have HorseIsle 1 to escape to (HI2 and HI3 just don't hit the same).

    I can't even begin to say how incredibly grateful I am to Miranda and Joe, as well as the countless friends I have made over the years.

    I certainly will miss this game dearly! :')
    REPLY: (by LeapofFaith) Nov 3 2020 9:19pm
    I started on Palomino as HollyBerryGirl in '08 and have restarted a few times. I really got back into the game when I started college when I was feeling lonely and stuck in my dorm. I made lots of friends and lifelong memories on here. When I first started I would go through the auto list and go and hunt down any that were under 10k so I could sell them at the pawneer to make money. I remember the thrill of catching my first 99er, of finally walking on Lava and then Pirate and finally Cloud, the wall of blue chats filling my screen when trying to do the jungle caves, of throwing rotten tomatoes at buds, anticipating beauty competition results. This game and my buds got me through the hardest time in my life. Without it, I don't know if I could have gotten through it. It has made me laugh, it has made me cry, it gave me a break from the real world, and it has given me lifelong friends.

    This game has nothing like it and it makes me tear up knowing its last day is near. It's simple yet beautiful. I actively play and love HI3 but its not the same as HI1.

    Thank you to everyone who made the game what it is. Thank you for giving me childhood memories and lifelong friends.

    -Leap/Faith/Lof/Loaf/Four
    REPLY: (by Sunset) Nov 4 2020 1:30pm
    Thank you so much for making this and investing in it. I remember my first "Adult" moment was buying my own subscription for $5, instead of spending in game money, and that will forever remain with me. Since starting to play in 2010, I have always come back to this game when times were hard. It got me through the first weeks of the pandemic and many other moments in my life when I needed something constant. Thank you so much for putting so much of yourselves into it. I am so so sad to see it go.
    REPLY: (by WildHorseRunning) Nov 5 2020 8:01am
    Looking through the news, I can pinpoint the range of dates when I joined: Between November 4 and November 10, 2007. I remember the chaos and uproar the ASH's release caused, and being *so* confused about it...

    I joined Palomino server because my horse at the time, Goldie, was palomino XD I played this game *constantly* for years, until high school started getting in the way, and then mental health... I remember being so in awe of BlueberryPie for having a 100k+exp Lipizzan, and how 100k seemed so far away to us mere mortals *laughing out loud!* I met one of my best friends through this game, someone I still keep in touch with, and I just...

    I can't articulate all that this game means to me, and I sincerely hope there's a way to keep it going, because coming back and revisiting all of the islands now has helped me de-stress more effectively than anything else in this time.

    Thank you, Joe, Miranda, and all the mods, for such a wonderful way to grow up <3
    REPLY: (by FlyingSolo) Nov 5 2020 2:33pm
    I am having a hard time coming to terms with them doing this
    REPLY: (by Lioness) Nov 12 2020 8:30pm
    I have been playing since November 2007, joining White soon after. I let my account poof, and I eventually rejoined on Pinto. I'm not on much anymore but enjoy logging in every once in a while for nostalgia to whisper or simple jump. You know what I don't login for, and I'm cringing thinking of the hours wasted before the interest booms: diamond mining for "only" $600k. I am still terrible at multiplication, especially while being timed and under pressure. I won't miss you diamond mine ;) *laughing out loud!* but seriously, I will miss Horse Isle!
    REPLY: (by StraitPirate) Nov 15 2020 4:46pm
    I think I joined around 2008.... Originally I was Mantilla, and then LimeGreenLunatic on Cremello. HorseIsle was my escape, my safe place. And it's where my friends were. I still wonder all the time what happened to some of my old buds. And I'm gonna miss how nice it felt to be able to log in every few months and see familiar names, people I grew up with, even if we hadn't been buds. I met my best friend in RL on here, Werewolf.

    I'm holding my breath hoping they'll sink in the time to bring HorseIsle back. If not... it's been an absolute pleasure growing up with you guys, and it's been an honour to get to know you all.

    Thanks, guys. <3

    - Lime / StraitPirate
    REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) Nov 16 2020 8:44am
    I joined Brown around November 2007. I remember googling how to spell words I didn't know so that I wouldn't look silly. I remember not having buds until somebody in all chat asked if anybody liked a certain book series, and I made so many friends through that, and now I've had so many buds come and go through the years that have touched my life. I've also always loved questing, so much so that I was one of those people who offered to do caves with people because I just enjoyed doing them so much. This game introduced me to MMOs and helped me come out of my shell. I remember laughing when I did a quest in Shellton and realized there were references to Firefly, and I've always wondered how many other references are hidden about in the world. This game has so many cherished memories I will never forgot. I hope some way some how it can be saved, but I understand why it's come to this especially with the hacking that has been happening.

    I wish you all the best. And thank you to all the Admins and Mods who kept this community going for so long. <3
    REPLY: (by Honeybee) Nov 22 2020 7:01am
    I have been playing HI1 on and off for around 10 years too. It reminds me of the old Gameboy games but online and with horses and much more appealing graphics. I came back when I lost my job earlier this year because I had so much more free time. It is so sad that idiots keep attacking the servers and have brought it down. I am so thankful for all the enjoyment and that the game was kept going past it being profitable.
    REPLY: (by Mackatarina) Dec 7 2020 1:27pm
    I made this account just so I could post. I started playing Horse Isle in 2007, when I was a little girl OBSESSED with horses. I begged my mom for time on her computer every day to play my horse game. Every time I went to someone's house I would log in to my account to show them my horses. My love for the game continued for ten years, and once I got a career and a spouse I just didn't have time for it anymore. Horse Isle was such an integral part of my childhood to the point where I am getting choked up as I type this out at work.

    This game has given me so many friends, a place of refuge when I was an awkward teenager figuring out my role in the world, and a ridiculous amount of comfort and happiness. Thank you for everything, guys <3
    REPLY: (by Arbiter) Dec 13 2020 6:40am
    The nostalgia hurts. I met some AMAZING friends on here, some that I still keep in touch with in other ways. I was obsessed with horses and spent SO much time. Never got to see Cloud Isle, or Pirate Isle. Spent all my time enjoying the world with my friends, getting banned, or making general chaos. Chestnut was my home, and I joined back in 2009, I believe? I'm having a hard time coming to with all of this, thinking that I won't be able to come back and talk to my oldest friends who still play around every now and then, or whisper to get my old glory-days horses back on my new account.

    However, I knew once HI2 went live that it was only a matter of time. We lost people. So many. I'm surprised it stayed up this long, long enough for me to return to it and bid it a final farewell. I'm completely holding my breath on the off-chance that they will put in the time and bring HI1 back, throw some advertisements out and really let us bring back the original to it's full glory.


    If not, then I really do want to thank y'all for my childhood,for the memories made, and for the friendships I've made along the way. As cheesy as it sounds, this game helped me out a lot in terms of growing me as a person. Thank you.


    - Arbiter (Dasher & Rio, Chestnut.)
    REPLY: (by GimmieGum) Dec 16 2020 7:55pm
    I've been here since 2007. I've changed my username countless of times. I've been through so much in my life and HI1 has always been there for me. Thank you so much for all that you've given me. Horseisle will always be a huge part my childhood and I will miss it dearly. Farewell everyone <3

    -GimmieGum
    REPLY: (by Pira) Jan 10 2021 1:54am
    I've been playing since '07 and have always truly enjoyed the game! i will be so so very sad to see it go!! if there is any chance of the game continuing, i would be very happy and continue to play for many more years! though i do understand the intensive work it would take to integrate the game into a new program (im not tech savy so forgive me if my terms are incorrect). I'll be continuing to check in on the game. as long as it runs, i'll be playing. any players looking for me are welcome to mail me on pinto server. i'm so very greatful for all the friendships i have made and the memories we have had together. if i didnt get a chance to mail you guys im sorry! i didnt have access the couple months leading up to the start of the new year. I wish you all the very best!!
    REPLY: (by Ritza) Jan 14 2021 4:29pm
    I have been playing since 2007. This game was a huge part of my childhood and in many ways, made my life wonderful. It was a blessing when in 2020, I started working from home and needed a break from time to time. The people I met on this game have been some of my best friends. I have made amazing memories on this game and I will never forget that. I wished that this game could continue on so younger generations could have a wonderful alternate world to escape into just like I did during hard times. I sure hope this isn't the end. But I want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart to Joe, Miranda and everyone else who kept this game going strong and fair. I wish everyone the best in their lives!
    REPLY: (by Nighted) Feb 8 2021 8:54pm
    I've been playing this game since '07, and I originally started on Chestnut as KnightFallWolf. I've made countless friends who I still keep in contact with to this day. I literally grew up on this game like many of you did, and I remember some of my best memories were laughing with my buds about countless silly things. I remember catching my first brown TB and being so excited she was 86%, *laughing out loud!*.
    I restarted a new account last year due to quarantine and was able to reconnect with so many of my old friends - countless memories and people who have supported me through all of the big steps - graduating college, getting married...I've met some of my best friends through this game and that is something I won't ever forget.
    -Night/Knight
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    I have played this {for a long time.} I have gone through a few user names but in the last 5 years or so I really have grown my friends circle and have made some lifelong friends in this game. I will miss all of you and the good times we have had. goodbye Horseisle thanks for the memories.

    Reposted and slightly edited the content in braces is edited. Rules still here, no ages please. *laughing out loud!* :)
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    REPLY: (by YveofNight) Oct 20 2020 1:08pm
    Thank you to the owners and developers for keeping HI1 alive as long as you did! I've had so much fun with this game over the years. The music hits me right in the nostalgia every time it comes on. Would it be possible to make the music available for download? Thanks! -YveofNight
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 20 2020 2:16pm
    bandcamp has it. As it's an HI related site, I'll try to post the link here by avoiding the filter. (bad me.) *laughing out loud!*

    ht tps : // horseisle . bandcamp. com/album/horse-isle-original-soundtrack

    Remove the spaces
    REPLY: (by YveofNight) Oct 20 2020 3:36pm
    Thank you!
    REPLY: (by Ama) Oct 20 2020 6:48pm
    Would there also be a chance to potentially incorporate it to biome in HI3? I think many of us on 3 came from here and it would keep the memory of the game strong.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 21 2020 12:05pm
    HI3 has it's own music, same composer.

    I doubt Joe would move HI1 music to HI3.
    REPLY: (by Eurydice) Oct 22 2020 7:10pm
    Thank you so much for the link! I wish that we could have the music on HI3 but I understand if that's not possible. Big thanks to your composer for creating the theme music to my childhood. *laughing out loud!*.
    REPLY: (by GingerCurtau) Nov 19 2020 7:14pm
    maybe selling the music can fund the care of the games still being kept?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 19 2020 9:23pm
    That's not really the issue Ginger. And no, it wouldn't. :)
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    REPLY: (by SensationalCat) Oct 20 2020 6:31pm
    With this game going down it's sad to see so many of my childhood memories go, but I hope I'll see you all on HI3.

    I couldn't let the game go without saying a HUGE thank-you to everyone over the years who have contributed to keeping the game running. This includes players re-subbing time after time. The mods who gave up their time to put out dumpster fires and ensure the game remained enjoyable for us. The admins who sorted through countless flags and vios and e-mails. And of course to Joe and Miranda, for continuing to pour their heart and soul into this game and update it even after HI3 went live.

    Without all of you, this game surviving this long wouldn't have been possible. So thank you to each and every one of you! I guess I'll see you on HI3.
    REPLY: (by SensationalCat) Oct 20 2020 6:34pm
    I should add also the coders who helped Joe, and the artists over the years. We owe you a HUGE THANKS!
    REPLY: (by Kilo) Oct 20 2020 6:41pm
    This post makes me so sad. <3
    Literally the most stable thing throughout my child/adulthood *laughing out loud!*.
    REPLY: (by StarryWillow) Oct 20 2020 7:30pm
    I agree! Thank you to everyone <3
    REPLY: (by Courbette) Oct 20 2020 9:20pm
    Thank you to everyone! I've appreciate playing on the platform you created. What a crazy thing to think that this game is a staple childhood memory of many people, including me. I absolutely will miss bouncing around the isles, having drawn-out conversations with NPCs, enjoying server cookies, and racing to solve chat riddles. Thanks for our sweet pixel horses that we will miss so dearly.
    REPLY: (by Borealis) Oct 22 2020 6:38pm
    I can honestly say this whole ordeal made me tear up, it's almost like losing a friend. I didn't expect to be this sad, but HI1 was always a constant, an escape. When I was a little girl, I would have fantasies about being swooped up into this world and my biggest worry was finding enough ebony logs for some NPC. I'll miss it, and the happiness it brought me as a kid, likewise as an adult.
    REPLY: (by Eurydice) Oct 22 2020 7:04pm
    Literally crying while reading this. This game was such a huge part of my childhood and I'm going to miss it so much. It's so unique. I think I'm going to miss the horse art and the music the most.
    REPLY: (by AppleBay) Oct 24 2020 4:40am
    Such a bittersweet day to log in. A huge thank you to everyone who made HI1 what it is, it's truly been a blast!

    All the best to everyone, see ya on the flip side (except you Princess Pookie, you can stay here)
    REPLY: (by Yahoo) Nov 2 2020 7:08pm
    Wow this hurted! Thinking about all my online friends I made over the years. Horseisle was truly my escape growing up and it's crazy to think that throughout 13 years, I have continued to find my way back. I am unreasonably grateful to everyone who made this little game a part of their life and changed mine. <3 *lots of love!*.
    REPLY: (by MomQuilts) Nov 5 2020 3:11pm
    I'd like to add my Thank You to everyone who made this game possible. And Thanks to everyone who makes all three Horse Isle games so much fun! I really appreciate the kind and helpful players in this awesome game.
    REPLY: (by WildHorseRunning) Nov 12 2020 12:41pm
    With the approaching deadline of 11/15, I just wanted to say Thank You to everyone who made this game what it is - owners, coders, artists, mods, admin, and players alike! I hope that this game sticks around for a long time yet, or gets revived with better upgrade, since there are still some dedicated players, but regardless, thank you for a formative experience of my childhood.
    REPLY: (by Lioness) Nov 12 2020 8:02pm
    As we get closer to the end, I just want to say thank you to staff who worked on this game for years. Not only was this game every horse girl's fantasy, but I also want to commend one if its greatest aspects: the players who make up this community. This game got me through middle and high school. I was not one in the "in crowd," but I found my place here in this niche community and was fortunate to grow up alongside of many of them as we navigated that awkward stage together. Most of these players I never got to know their real name, but I will always remember them and our weird times together on our small little server (White). <3
    REPLY: (by Wildflower) Nov 14 2020 4:36pm
    Horseisle has been a reliable escape from reality for more than a decade. I'm so impressed with how well thought out the entire game is and with how dedicated its creators and support team are. Really, really, thank you all so much.

    I've been one of those players who pops in to play excessively for a month or so until the busyness of life takes over, goes dormant for a few months, then returns... etc. No matter how often or how little I played, the horseisle community was always helpful, kind, and welcoming, and I think that's really special.

    Thank you all <3 I'll miss this so much.
    REPLY: (by Everyone) Nov 25 2020 2:51am
    Wow I'm devastated to hear this news... I haven't been very active at all the last few years, but I loved logging in every few weeks to check if there's a new quest or breed available. Thanks for making such a unique game - if they made one, I would definitely play a desktop version that just has NPCs.
    REPLY: (by Sparklie) Nov 30 2020 5:27pm
    I started playing this game as a child over a decade ago. I've literally grown up with this game and franchise. It's the only game (not even horse game, just in general) that I've found myself coming back to. Thank you to everyone who made this game what it is, and for the priceless memories I've made because of it. This game will never be replaced, and while it's sad to see it go, I'm grateful for the over a decade of fun we had.

    REPLY: (by Everlend) Dec 6 2020 10:18pm
    Thank you all for our countless years of hard work on this game. I remember when this game was being beta tested. I have enjoyed this game immensely over the years and have created many lasting memories. As I looked back on the horses that I still had, I remember each as a milestone at a different point in my life.

    Thank you for keeping this around as long as you have.
    REPLY: (by PokemonFanboy) Jan 31 2021 3:21pm
    It's 2021, and HI1 is still online *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by Oryx) Apr 19 2021 4:49pm
    I'm very late to this post, but I wanted to thank you for the memories. I've been playing since 2007 and I'm heartbroken to see it finally end. This game brought me so much joy. Thank you for everything.
    REPLY: (by Hedwig) Jul 6 2021 3:51am
    I'm also very late to this. But yes. Wholeheartedly yes. I've played since 25/11/2007. This game has always been there throughout everything. Thank you to the creators, designers, moderators, admins, artists. Thank you.
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    REPLY: (by Kacchan) Oct 21 2020 1:54pm
    since the game will be ending is there a chance we all can go to cloud and ride uni's ;c.
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    Unfortunately no, not unless you have the award to do so.

    The Uniter won't allow you to rent unless you have the award.
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    REPLY: (by Tiffballs) Feb 28 2021 10:21pm
    Hey guys! I was feeling pretty nostalgic and I wanted to get back into HI. ANyone still play on the servers? I've been browsing the forums and it sounded like the game might be taken offline soon, and I was worried about the state of the game :'(
    REPLY: (by AddledHaflinger) Mar 1 2021 3:22pm
    I still log into Black sometimes when I have time. I'm pretty sad about the game being gone any day now too. ;-;
    REPLY: (by NikitaLuv) Mar 8 2021 11:45am
    There are quite a few players that come onto Pinto server!
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    VIEWING GENERAL FORUM THREAD: Zoom
    REPLY: (by Arvella) Mar 2 2021 2:52pm
    I was just wondering if anyone has found a way to make the game size bigger? It’s soo tiny I get eye strain *laughing out loud!*. I’ve tried different methods to the point that I’ve almost messed my computer up bad hahah. Wondering if anyone’s found a solution yet and if I do I’ll post below here. Thanks.
    REPLY: (by Arvella) Mar 4 2021 10:40pm
    I found the best solution was changing the display settings of my computer temporarily just while playing instead of trying to figure it out in the flash player because it doesn't seem to be possible. I did this by going:
    System settings > display > "display resolution" - change to "1024x600"
    This can easily be changed back after gameplay :)
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    VIEWING HORSES FORUM THREAD: Wii Fonts
    REPLY: (by Miranda) Aug 17 2011 5:16am
    Please stop using the Wii fonts on horse names and descriptions. This often messes with the coding for the game and makes it so sometimes the save button disappears. This prevents you from being able to change that horse's information and forces me to go in and erase the name and description.
    Sorry it doesn't work with it.
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    VIEWING HORSES FORUM THREAD: Horse Profiles
    REPLY: (by Okami) Dec 21 2011 6:01am
    Many people don't understand /how/ to do horse profiles.

    First of all you want to take the italic off 'But you can't!' You say, well you can, you just have to put it at the start of the profile before you do anything.

    Then you want to take it down a line and add a colour (red) and a font, lets say underline. You always start with the colour and end with the colour. so the last thing you put in to do, is the first thing you close off. You close of with a / like this: [/i] [/b] [/u]

    So this is the HTML we have so far:

    [/i]
    [red][u]

    Now you add text. say your horses name is apples, you could add its name in like this, then close of the colour, make it grey and take the underline off.

    [/i]
    [red][u]apples[/u][/colour]
    [grey]

    Now you want a poem, all in one line. Saying: Apples such a sweet taste, Linked together with a lace. It goes like this:

    [/i]
    [red][u]apples[/u][/colour]
    [grey]Apples such a sweet taste, Linked together with a lace.

    Then you want to take grey off, and leave a gap underneath 'Well the gap won't stay!' It will, if you end it like this:

    [/i]
    [red][u]apples[/u][/colour]
    [grey]Apples such a sweet taste, Linked together with a lace.[/color]
    [/i]

    You don't have to put the [/color] as your ending the profile, but you can if you want.

    If it starts deleting parts of the profile its because its to long. So just take away some of the text/fonts then it should work.

    These are the current fonts visible:
    Underline [u]
    Bold [b]
    Italic [i]
    You can take them off using /'s. Like this [/u] [/b] [/i]

    These are the current Profile Colors:

    Red [red]
    Green [green]
    Lime [lime]
    Aqua [aqua]
    Fuchsia [fuchsia]
    Orange [orange]
    Navy [navy]
    Olive [olive]
    Teal [teal]
    Silver [silver]
    Black [black]
    Marroon [marroon]
    Brown [brown]
    Grey [grey]
    Yellow [yellow]
    Pink [pink]
    Blue [blue]
    Purple [purple]

    You can take of colors by using [/color] or changing the colour completly. Like this:

    [red]apples[/color]
    textheretexthere

    [red]apples[grey]
    textheretexthere

    Hope this helps stem some confusion with hrose profiles.
    REPLY: (by Okami) Dec 21 2011 6:05am
    Horse Profiles* And it only works with the american spelling to take off colours, sorry I'm English! To take of colours it should be spelt like this:

    [/color] DO NOT use the english spelling as it will not work otherwise.
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    VIEWING HORSES FORUM THREAD: Question About the Pawneer
    REPLY: (by ZeroStorm) Aug 8 2013 11:55am
    Does anyone know how the pawneer prices the horses he buys? Thank you!
    -ZeroStorm [Grey]
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 8 2013 2:05pm
    His prices are not based on current player prices.

    The pricing he does is his own, and is based mostly on experience the horse has been given = training done. The more training you put on the horse, the more he will pay, up to a point.

    He usually starts out at around $6,000 give or take some.

    The Pawneer doesn't care about Intelligence or Personality so those are not included in his pricing since you can't train for those. (You can pellet, but not train.)

    His pricing does not reflect current player pricing for horses though.
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    VIEWING HORSES FORUM THREAD: Training horses
    REPLY: (by PocketBlue) Nov 17 2013 6:07pm
    If you are training someone's horse and they haven't been on for ages, please never ever sell it unless you have talked to at least TWO of their buddies and they have gone to their buddy list and checked if they have been on in the last 2 months. A tip would be to mail them and ask them if they still play. It feels terrible to lose a horse.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 17 2013 7:01pm
    Locking this as:

    1) Rules: Training
    1] We do not advise that you willingly give your horse to another player for it to be trained in exchange for money. We cannot return the horse should it be stolen.

    2) Once the original training time or the horse's training is completed it's the original owner's responsibility to return and collect their horse. If they fail to do so that is their problem. They have broken the contract.

    3) We do ask players to try their best to contact the original owner, give them at least 2 weeks if possible to return, contact the trainer and get the horse. If however that does not happen, if the original owner does not respond by the end of the two weeks:

    4) The horse then belongs to the trainer and the trainer may do as she/he wises with the horse. Be that keep it, sell it, trade it or pawn it.

    This is just like real life. Both parties must be responsible for the agreement. So the trainer must do the training in the time agreed upon, and the owner must pay for the training and pick up the horse in a timely manner.

    It's not up to the trainer to board the horse indefinitely or for an exceptionally long time unless that is indeed part of the original agreement.

    The trainer is welcome to do that, but it's not a requirement.

    Thanks
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    VIEWING HORSES FORUM THREAD: Adding Colors to Old Breeds
    REPLY: (by Miranda) Nov 18 2016 2:43pm
    We are contemplating adding more colors to some of the older breeds that were given just the standard colors and not -all- possible colors. While doing this, the existing colors of that breed will be updated. We don't plan on radically changing the outline or patterns of the different colors.

    That said, please vote for your top 5 breeds you would like to see colors added to and art (at least partially) redone.
    REPLY: (by SilverSpirit) Nov 19 2016 12:02am
    1. Standardbred
    2. Azteca
    3. Percheron
    4. Hackney Horse
    5. National Show Horse
    REPLY: (by Unnamed) Nov 19 2016 12:38am
    1. brumby
    2. standardbred
    3. kinsky
    4. percheron
    5. selle
    REPLY: (by Linger) Nov 19 2016 12:48am
    1. Percheron
    2. Hackney Horse
    3. Chincoteague Pony
    4. Standarbred
    5. Kiger Mustang
    REPLY: (by Milquetoast) Nov 19 2016 1:47am
    1. Don
    2. Vlaamperd

    I personally think those are most deserving of new colors, since there's nothing wrong with the actual lineart, but a variety of currently absent colors does exist and would be nice to see being added (for example Vlaamperds, although very rarely, do come in grey).

    3. Morgan
    4. Hanoverian
    5. Selle Francais
    REPLY: (by Manta) Nov 19 2016 2:17am
    1. Dales
    2. Falabella
    3. Trakehner
    4. Selle Francais
    5. Hanoverian
    REPLY: (by Fender) Nov 19 2016 4:41am
    1. Chincoteague
    2. Azteca
    3. Hanoverian
    4. Missouri Fox Trotter
    5. Walkaloosa
    REPLY: (by Absent) Nov 19 2016 5:08am
    Surprised no one has said:

    1. Frederiksborg (in game they come only in chestnut, in real life they may be bay, grey, buckskin, palomino, roan, and even have some rabicano markings. I wouldn't change a thing about the lineart though)
    2. Sells Francais (would love to see a grey and a spiffy up of the old colors)
    3. Oldenburg (most notably we are missing chestnut and tobiano. Their lineart is beautiful!)
    4. Morgan (cremello, grey, palomino, roan, pinto)
    5. Standardbred (grey is missing)

    I should note that I would be incredibly upset and against the idea of lineart changes on the Oldenburg and Frederiksborg. I love it exactly how it is I just wish to see the colors represented that exist within the breeds.
    REPLY: (by Pompeii) Nov 19 2016 7:14am
    1. Dales (they are able to be roan)
    2 Dartmoor (also can come in roan)
    3. Hanoverian
    4. Selle Francais
    5. Frederiksborg
    REPLY: (by Pandora) Nov 19 2016 8:29am
    1. Hanoverian - they're awful, the confo is all messed up it barely looks like a horse
    2. Dales - no need to even explain
    3. Standardbred
    4. Azteca
    5. Falabella
    REPLY: (by Jagvior) Nov 19 2016 8:52am
    1. Trakes. Guys. Imagine a pinto trake.
    REPLY: (by Lassi) Nov 19 2016 10:11am
    1. Hanoverian
    2. Azteca
    3. Selle Francais
    4. Tenessee Walking Horse
    5. Hackney
    REPLY: (by Valegro) Nov 19 2016 10:28am
    1. Dales
    2. Frederiksborg
    3. Hanoverian
    4. Standardbred
    5. Tennessee Walking Horse
    REPLY: (by Max) Nov 19 2016 11:35am
    I feel like most people want a redo of the Hanoverians, but they actually have nice line art. I think the most important thing would just be to touch up their mane and tail and make their eyes... more visible? as it is it seems half closed all the time. Perhaps this is something that could be done in a color redo?
    other than that I would love color redos in just about any of the old breeds, just wanted to mention the hano.
    REPLY: (by Froodles) Nov 19 2016 2:19pm
    1. Exmoor
    2.Azteca
    3. Shetland
    4. Sorria
    5. Moyle
    REPLY: (by TrueDesire) Nov 19 2016 3:19pm
    Dales, Hanoverian, Tennessee Walking Horse, Standardbred,Azteca :]
    REPLY: (by MightyHorse) Nov 19 2016 3:37pm
    1. Morgan
    2. Azteca
    3. Tennesse Walking Horse
    4. Friesian ( i feel like they just need to be completely redone, also a few new colors?
    5. Pony of Americas (redone plus black, white, pinto/roan added?
    REPLY: (by MightyHorse) Nov 19 2016 3:38pm
    ^maybe brown for the pony of Americas too
    REPLY: (by TheGabbing) Nov 19 2016 4:54pm
    1: Kiger Mustang
    2: Noriker
    3: Lustiano
    4: Andalusian
    5: Welsh Cob

    If you add new nori colors I would cry, please more nori colors <3
    REPLY: (by Ocarina) Nov 19 2016 6:48pm
    1. Azteca (Why is the palo kind of green, is it sick?)
    2. Camel (They can come in red, tan, white, black, brown, and even paint like patterns, plus I'd love to see their coats in general updated)
    3.Friesians (I know they've been changed before, but they look too scrawny)
    4. Dutch Warmblood (I would love a color touch-up)
    5. Missouri Fox Trotter (Just like with the Dutchies, color touch-up)

    This isn't a color thing, but I'd love to see more mini horses introduced into the game. I just love small horses and there just doesn't seem to be enough of them!
    REPLY: (by Shark) Nov 19 2016 8:28pm
    Irish draughts PLEASEEE! They're so beautifully drawn i would love the colours to be fixed! The grey and brown i like but the others need touching up to be less blurry and would love to see more colours!
    REPLY: (by Thestral) Nov 19 2016 8:45pm
    1. Belgian colors
    2. Chinco colors
    3. Hackney colors love the way they are drawn maybe turn the head straight instead of to the side like it is?
    4. Missouri Fox gritters colors
    5. Clydes colors
    REPLY: (by Chief) Nov 20 2016 2:33am
    Standardbreds! I have a purebred roan standy and a friend i know has a purebred pinto and grey so it would be great for them to have new colours added :) Oh, and my boy is 17hh and there are standies up to 18.3hh out there so heights from 14-18 would be great :)
    Also the freders
    REPLY: (by Cat) Nov 20 2016 3:03am
    1. Friesians (They can come in Chestnut, and others have said I know they've been redone before but they look absolutely nothing like the breed at the moment so a general lineart touchup would be nice too - I know SpottedRose has said this is something she'd like to do.)
    2. Frederiksborg (As Absent said above - they can come in "bay, grey, buckskin, palomino, roan, and even have some rabicano markings". The lineart is beautiful but it's a shame that they're an unpopular breed due to the lack of variety - they're boring at the moment.)
    3. Andalusian (PRE now accepts Grulla, Buckskin, Palomino, Perlino, and Cremello)
    4. Norikers ("They also appear in a variety of other striking colours like roan, blue roan, overos, tobianos, as well as the spotted leopard complex.")
    5. Aztecas (After having seen the redo that was done for Aztecas years ago but never added in, I think this is definitely needed. The lineart is lovely as it is but they just have pure block colours. Also, no horse is green. Why are the cremellos green?)
    REPLY: (by Cat) Nov 20 2016 3:06am
    ^ With regards to the Aztecas, I meant palomino. Oops. Although the cremello also has a slight green-ish tinge to it.
    REPLY: (by Quaint) Nov 20 2016 6:08am
    1. Fredriksborg
    2. Percheron (art touch up, and coloring)
    3. Andalusion
    4. Azteca
    5. Dales {art touch up and coloring}

    Thank you for your consideration.
    REPLY: (by Cat) Nov 20 2016 7:15am
    Oh I'd also like to add on a side note, if there's any possible way that the markings on the black Thoroughbreds could actually be made white rather than the murky grey they are at the moment, without changing the other colouring, that would be amazing. I did it myself in Photoshop and it looks so much better.
    REPLY: (by Absent) Nov 20 2016 7:57am
    Oh also, if I'm allowed to add a 6. Iberian Warmbloods.Touch up on all the colors to something more crisp would be great. They're the smudgiest looking breed.
    REPLY: (by Bungalow) Nov 20 2016 9:39am
    1. I really would like a crem Noko
    2. Hanoverian
    3. Exmoor
    4. Friesian
    5. Dutch Warmblood
    REPLY: (by NichiMe) Nov 20 2016 10:13am
    1. Noriker
    2. Vlaamperd
    3. Trakehner
    4. Oldenburg
    5. Sorraia
    REPLY: (by WhiteFang) Nov 20 2016 12:41pm
    1. Percheron
    2. Clydesdale
    3. Shire (I think a touch up would look great on them)
    4. Frederiskborg
    REPLY: (by Savage) Nov 20 2016 2:39pm
    1. Pony of America. I would LOVE to see these done. As someone who shows them there are so many more colors than portrayed in game. :)
    2. Hanoverian
    3. Dales
    4. Dutch Warmblood
    5. Morgan
    REPLY: (by Magi) Nov 20 2016 3:21pm
    1. Camel
    2. Friesians
    Would love chestnut Friesians to be added <3
    REPLY: (by Sushi) Nov 20 2016 3:32pm
    1. aztecas (color touchups)
    2. Andalusians (just add colors)
    3. dales (colors and line work)
    4. Tennessee walking horse (maybe fix the mane and the colors so the face looks more normal)
    5. hanoverian (colors and line work)
    REPLY: (by Sushi) Nov 20 2016 3:34pm
    I just really want a palo Andalusian ok
    REPLY: (by Shark) Nov 21 2016 5:17am
    Zebras can come in some brownish shades too and very light like a palomino I've seen.
    REPLY: (by Centaur) Nov 22 2016 2:11am
    Some of the older work like a colour redo and an update of the line work on some breeds like;
    Paso Finos
    Peruvian Pasos
    Dales
    Hanoverians
    National Show Horse
    REPLY: (by Sonada) Nov 24 2016 4:26am
    1. Chincoteague
    2. Clydesdale
    3. Tennessee Walkers
    4. Morgans
    5. Azteca
    REPLY: (by Renegade) Nov 24 2016 2:26pm
    1. Noriker
    2. Azteca
    3. Chincoteague
    4. Morgan
    5. Hanoverian
    REPLY: (by Twins) Nov 24 2016 2:32pm
    1. Pony of Americas
    2. Missouri Fox Trotter
    3. Haflinger
    4. Morgan
    5. Clydesdale
    REPLY: (by Mesteno) Nov 24 2016 2:36pm
    First of all, I have to say a huge thank you to yall for considering doing this! This makes me VERY excited!! I love the idea of having some of our older breeds updated instead of a new breed every time aswell. (except for fingers crossed on miniature horses ;) haha)

    1. Pony Of The Americas
    2. Standardbred
    3. Tennessee Walker (a more defined 4th hind leg added maybe?)
    4. Dales
    5. Clydesdales
    REPLY: (by Crayola) Nov 25 2016 5:38am
    1. standardbred - bay brown black, plus chestnut grey and roan! their lines could be updated a little too, they're not particularly athletic-looking. also the eye weirds me out

    2. falabella - they have the really old art style like the super gradient/flat manes. also come in palomino and buckskin, and there could be a black leopard appaloosa as 'white', and maybe other appie/pinto colours too?

    3. hanoverian - just looks really outdated and does not look like they could do olympic eventing tbh !! they could be a bit more elegant- and warmblood-looking. maybe add a white, and make the grey a dapple

    4. tennessee walker - redo those manes and tails more like the racking horse, make them look as gorgeous as rl ones~

    5. vlaamp - as much of it redone as possible would be fantastic. can't stand the terrible conformation on that thing bleh
    REPLY: (by SittingTrot) Nov 25 2016 4:23pm
    1. Hanoverian
    2. Dutch Warmblood
    3. Holsteiner
    4. Selle Francais
    5. Pony of Americas
    REPLY: (by Kokomo) Nov 27 2016 6:26am
    Standardbred
    dales
    clydesdales
    shire
    american saddlebred
    REPLY: (by Sparklie) Nov 29 2016 4:04pm
    1. Standardbred
    2. Clydesdales
    3. Dales
    4. Paso Fino
    5. Oldenburg
    REPLY: (by Cleo) Nov 29 2016 10:57pm
    1.Irish draughts
    2.Pony Of Americas
    3.Shire
    4.Clydesdale
    5.National Show Horse
    REPLY: (by Catelyn) Nov 30 2016 2:54pm
    Please leave the existing Standardbred colouring alone. I have invested so much in an idential replica of a departed horse.

    Several older players play because of the old artwork so please keep that in mind.
    REPLY: (by Catelyn) Nov 30 2016 3:28pm
    Would it not be possible to arrange a vote between the new artwork and the old, or at least preview the proposed new artwork? It is extremely hard to vote in favour for something you have no idea what will look like. Maybe a redo would look better in some cases but I/we have no way of knowing what we are agreeing to.

    I am in full favour of ADDING NEW colours, but not in favour of redoing existing ones to make it happen.
    REPLY: (by Autu) Dec 1 2016 1:32pm
    1. Hanoverians
    2. Belgians
    3. Dutch Warmbloods
    3. Frederiksborg
    4. Oldenburg
    5. Trakehner
    REPLY: (by Nefarious) Dec 2 2016 3:04pm
    1. Freddies
    2. Dutch Warmbloods
    3. Pony of Americas
    4. Hano
    5. Dales
    REPLY: (by Catelyn) Dec 2 2016 3:30pm
    I have a tiny suggestion pertaining to this thread. Would it be wise to alter the Pawneer Order information to inform potential purchasers that the horse/colour they are ordering might be altered in the future? It would make the risk clearer to those buying.
    REPLY: (by Miranda) Dec 3 2016 3:03pm
    Thanks for the votes.

    It would not be possible to simply add new coloring to a breed without altering the existing colors. Especially for the older breeds, the style is so different from what it is now that it would look very off to keep the old colorings. That said, I will be informing the artist to only update the current colors but keep the current markings, etc. Try not to change it too much. So, if a color has two socks in chestnut and a blaze in black, then the redone art will still have two socks in chestnut and a blaze in black. The shading and detail would just be updated along with new colors added. The lineart would only be tweaked to fix conformation issues that have been noticed.

    I'll be giving the breeds with the most votes to the artist to have her start working on them.
    Thanks!
    REPLY: (by Catelyn) Dec 15 2016 12:42pm
    Does this mean the Standardbred will be redone, then. I would be gutted to lose the current bay version. The colouring AND lineart is perfect.
    REPLY: (by Catelyn) Dec 15 2016 12:44pm
    And can the glossy, oversaturated colouring style please be toned down a bit.
    REPLY: (by SpottedRose) Dec 15 2016 4:10pm
    You can't please everybody. I keep getting complaints that my art is too flat and grey. I do my art on a carefully calibrated monitor, and it looks different on every other monitor in the place.
    REPLY: (by Desertmorn) Dec 15 2016 8:25pm
    Thank you for all your art, SpottedRose. Much appreciated from this player! :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 16 2016 12:33pm
    I have a laptop and a desktop. The art looks different on each of the computers. It depends on the type of screen (LED, or whatever you have,) what the graphics settings are and also what graphics card you have.

    Mac's will also look different from Windows/PC's, and Linux. Each is different. :)
    REPLY: (by Rumored) Feb 15 2017 8:40pm
    I think people get far too entitled when it comes to expecting new art/colors/etc. Everyone wants exactly what they want, which is never the same for every player. Some people like the new colors, some people like the old. It's really considerate of Miranda, Joe, and SpottedRose to take into account what breeds the players want re-colored. I'm personally just grateful this game is still getting updates and the care it needs.

    Thank you for everything you do, SpottedRose. I'm sure everyone appreciates you more than you know!
    REPLY: (by Miranda) Aug 20 2018 1:48pm
    We have added more colors and redone the coloring of the top 5 breeds voted on here by players. I'll go through and tally the breeds again (since I, of course, didn't keep my initial tally) and we'll possibly do some more.

    So, please, once again, list your top 5 breeds you would like colors added to and/or art (at least partially) redone. If you voted above, feel free to vote again since some breeds that you listed may have been redone.

    Thanks!
    REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) Aug 21 2018 6:08am
    1. POA
    2. TWH
    3. Dutch Warmblood
    4. Paso Fino
    5. Morgan

    I guess the original post was about added a larger variety of colors, these ones are more just ones I think could use an update overall.
    REPLY: (by Yellow) Aug 30 2018 2:38am
    1. Exmoor
    2. Przewalski's Horse
    3. Furioso
    5. Belgian
    6. Frederiksborg
    REPLY: (by Blueberry) Aug 30 2018 5:21am
    Sounds great! When can we expect to see these redos in game?
    REPLY: (by CookieDough) Aug 31 2018 3:24pm
    1. Black Forest Draft
    2. POA
    3. Perch
    4. Clydesdale
    5. Vlaamp
    REPLY: (by Elusive) Sep 26 2018 4:58pm
    1. Belgians
    2. Frederiksborg
    3. POA
    4. Clydesdale
    5. Selle Francais
    REPLY: (by WildMustang) Nov 4 2018 1:30am
    Frederiksborg
    irish draught
    perch
    belgian
    selle francais
    REPLY: (by Cake) Dec 8 2018 7:59am
    1. Don
    2. Selle Francais
    3. Holsteiner
    4. TWH
    5. Irish Draught
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 19 2019 1:22am
    Lipizzan--I'd really love to have ablack one in the game since I have seen one in real life.
    2.Gelderland
    3.Hanoverian
    4.Shagya Arabian
    5.Welsh Cob
    REPLY: (by Rambler) Feb 13 2019 8:31pm
    1. Belgian
    2. Selle Francais
    3. Percheron
    4. Paso Fino
    5. Irish Draught

    Thank you!
    REPLY: (by Fearless) Feb 16 2019 8:48pm
    Adding colors -
    1. Morab
    2. Lusitano
    3. Furioso
    4. Canadian Horse
    5. Selle Francais
    REPLY: (by Nate) Feb 17 2019 6:33pm
    1. Belgian
    2. Kaimanawa
    3. Selle Français
    4. Percheron
    5. POA
    REPLY: (by Sierra) Apr 6 2019 9:09pm
    1. Morgan
    2. Morgan
    3. Morgan
    4. Morgan
    5. Morgan

    Please considering re-doing this breed if possible!!!
    REPLY: (by Rogue) Apr 29 2019 10:27pm
    1. Sorraias need redone horribly.
    2. American Cream Drafts- They are very draft like in real life with a more perlino color vs. so much pink.
    3. Dutch Warmbloods- I love the traditional lineart but the other colors besides black are icky, the grey is very bland. I'd love to see some more shading and detail, they come in white, beautiful dappled greys, and a variety of other colors.
    4. Morgans. OOf.
    5. Selle Francais, needs way more colors and more intricate detail, the lineart is definately spot on but could use a little updating
    REPLY: (by Glacier) May 19 2019 9:54pm
    Please, if you update the Belgian, don't remove the leg animation. It's the only breed on the game with a leg animation and we love it a lot.
    REPLY: (by Tacenda) May 23 2019 11:14pm
    Can you please do Selle Francais I would love to see a black one! I would love it so much! Thanks
    REPLY: (by Gelato) Jan 20 2020 11:07pm
    1. Belgian
    2. Morgan
    3. Selle Français
    4. Falabella
    5. POA
    REPLY: (by Nighted) Mar 11 2020 7:36pm
    1. Irish Draught
    2. Hanoverian
    3. Morgan
    4. Selle Francais - would love to see black or dapple grey!
    5. POA
    REPLY: (by FlyingSolo) Apr 22 2020 3:15pm
    1. POA
    2. Peruvian Paso
    3. Selle Français
    4. Trakehner
    5. Noriker
    REPLY: (by TheBlackParade) Jun 19 2020 7:04pm
    1. American Cream Draft the registry accepts light, medium, and dark cream which (in my experience) look like cremello, light palomino, and dark palomino with the amber eyes of course.

    Can I just vote this 5 times? I own one in real life and would love to have a look alike in a little darker shade!
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    VIEWING HORSES FORUM THREAD: Horses & Where to Find Them
    REPLY: (by Areawin) May 14 2017 11:18pm
    Horses & Where to Find Them

    Will admin please remove the previous topic under "Horses" of the same title? (17 horses added)

    Horses & Where to Find Them is compromised of every horse / rideable thing on the game. It's sectioned into areas for you to use and reference as you please (especially when whispering!). To further aid you, I've put the list in alphabetical order.

    Note: These are the original release areas, where the game itself releases the horse into. Remember that you can still lease horses in towns, and players may release horses in their undesignated areas.

    FOREST:
    - Carolina Marsh Tacky
    - Mule


    CLOUD:
    - Pegasus
    - Unicorn
    - UniPeg


    BEACH:
    - Chincoteague
    - Zebra (Pirate Isle)


    JUNGLE:
    - Cubano de Paso
    - Llama
    - Paso Fino
    - Peruvian Paso


    SNOW:
    - Bashkir Curly
    - Budyonny
    - Exmoor Pony
    - Guoxia Pony
    - Hokkaido Pony
    - Hucul
    - Icelandic
    - Iomud
    - Lokai
    - Mongolian Horse
    - Newfoundland Pony
    - Norwegian Coldblood Trotter
    - Norwegian Fjord
    - Shetland Pony
    - Tibetan Horse
    - Ukranian Saddle Horse
    - Yakut


    DESERT:
    - Akhal-Teke
    - Arabian
    - Australian Brumby
    - Australian Stock Horse
    - Azteca
    - Camel
    - Criollo
    - Egyptian Arabian
    - Karabair
    - Marwari
    - Moroccan Barb
    - Plateau Persian
    - Spanish Barb


    LAVA:
    - Abtenauer
    - Ardennais
    - Belgian
    - Black Forest Draft Horse
    - Clydesdale
    - Friesian
    - Gypsy Vanner
    - Jutland
    - Mulassier
    - Noriker
    - Percheron
    - Przewalski's Horse
    - Russian Heavy Draft
    - Shire
    - Spotted Draft Horse
    - Suffolk Punch
    - Sugarbush Draft Horse
    - Warlander


    GRASS:
    - Abaco Barb
    - Alter Real
    - American Cream Draft
    - American Mustang
    - American Paint
    - American Saddlebred
    - American White
    - Andalusian
    - Anglo-Arabian
    - Appaloosa
    - Appendix Quarter Horse
    - Argentine Polo Pony
    - British Appaloosa
    - British Spotted Pony
    - Calabrese
    - Camargue
    - Campolina
    - Canadian Horse
    - Cape Boerperd
    - Caspian
    - Cleveland Bay
    - Colorado Ranger
    - Connemara Pony
    - Dales Pony
    - Danish Warmblood
    - Dartmoor Pony
    - Datong
    - Dole
    - Don
    - Dutch Warmblood
    - Eriskay
    - Estonian Native Horse
    - Falabella
    - Fell Pony
    - Finnhorse
    - Florida Cracker
    - Franches Montagne
    - Frederiksborg
    - French Trotter
    - Furioso
    - Gelderland
    - Georgian Grande
    - German Riding Pony
    - Gotland
    - Gronigen
    - Hackney Horse
    - Haflinger
    - Hanoverian
    - Highland Pony
    - Holsteiner
    - Iberian Warmblood
    - Irish Draught
    - Irish Sport Horse
    - Java Pony
    - Kaimanawa
    - Kathiawari
    - Kentucky Mountain Saddle Horse
    - Kerry Bog Pony
    - Kiger Mustang
    - Kinsky
    - Kladruby
    - Knabstrup
    - Landais
    - Lipizzan
    - Lusitano
    - Mangalara Marchador
    - Maremmano
    - Missouri Fox Trotter
    - Morab
    - Morgan
    - Moyle
    - National Show Horse
    - New Forest Pony
    - Nez Perce Horse
    - Nokota
    - Nonius
    - Norman Cob
    - Oldenburg
    - Orlov Trotter
    - Pony of the Americas
    - Quarter Horse
    - Racking Horse
    - Rocky Mountain Horse
    - Salernitano
    - Selle Francais
    - Shagya Arabian
    - Sicilian
    - Sorraia
    - Standardbred
    - Swedish Warmblood
    - Tennessee Walking Horse
    - Tersky
    - Thessalian
    - Thoroughbred
    - Trakehner
    - Turkoman
    - Vlaamperd
    - Waler
    - Walkaloosa
    - Welsh Cob
    - Welsh Mountain Pony
    - Westphalian
    - Wielkopolski
    REPLY: (by MythicalArt) Sep 5 2017 5:38pm
    where do you find spotted saddle horses?
    REPLY: (by Ocarina) Sep 6 2017 6:59am
    I'm fairly certain in the grass MythicalArt, their breed description doesn't say that they're anywhere special (i.e. desert, snow, or lava).
    REPLY: (by Cobber) Feb 17 2018 10:38am
    Is there a reason that Exmoors are snow breeds but Dartmoors aren't - even though they're found wild within a one hour drive of each other in almost identical terrain? Also, Shetland being snow breeds fair enough, but WMPs and Welsh Cobs are more north than Exmoors? Or is it literally just me who is confused my this?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 17 2018 11:39am
    As far as I know, it's not an exact thing.

    The breeds are sort of spread out as to which type of horse goes where. Some of that is a little iffy. Draft breeds don't live normally on Lava isles, yet that is where HI designates them... Well, they need to be somewhere and horses were needed there so... *laughing out loud!*

    If there are a lot of breeds in one area then they may be spread out a bit and put in some other location. That said, for those horses that usually are Only found in snowy locations I do think Miranda tries to get that in, but again... Having too many breeds in only 1 smallish area is not great either.

    I think the owners in this instance Cobber wanted to separate the breeds from each other a little bit as well. :)
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    VIEWING HORSES FORUM THREAD: Removing Residue
    REPLY: (by Hedwig) Feb 28 2018 8:32am
    Hi all,

    So, yet another trend has hit HI - 'natural' horses with no residue. Maxhh, 98%+ & no res is a common add, and said horses tend to be absolutely extortionate in price.

    So, instead, would it be possible to have the number of residue in a horses' profile removed?
    Having the special treats doesn't seem to be a problem.
    However, as there are less players now, but a more refined market, a lot of horses aren't worth anything. And people are struggling to sell things.

    It would be lovely to actually buy horses for reasonable prices, than watch the economy eat itself again.

    Hope this is possible,
    Hedwig x
    REPLY: (by Manta) Feb 28 2018 8:34am
    I agree. On pinto, people are excessively whispering so much which means there are more horses in circulation, but the number of players isn't keeping up. So no one wants to buy a horse that isn't the best of the best, since there are so many horses around to choose from.

    Please get rid of res!
    REPLY: (by Hedwig) Feb 28 2018 8:35am
    *just to clarify, keep the pellets but remove the residue counter in the profile*

    x
    REPLY: (by Fawn) Feb 28 2018 8:36am
    I agree, I would love to see this implemented. I don't think it's very "helpful" to even know how much residue it has anyway. It just devalues horses and people aren't as interested in tossing their money at them and thus hoarding their money. I would like to see the residue thing taken away, I like the special treats aspect still.
    REPLY: (by Cobber) Feb 28 2018 8:36am
    I think that the height pellet should just be removed all together as people will continue to use them to get their horses maxhh. Instead maybe we could just keep the colour pellet? As a different colour doesn't change the value as much as a different height.
    REPLY: (by Cobber) Feb 28 2018 8:38am
    I think that the height pellet should just be removed all together as people will continue to use them to get their horses maxhh. Instead maybe we could just keep the colour pellet? As a different colour doesn't change the value as much as a different height.
    REPLY: (by Fawn) Feb 28 2018 8:38am
    Also to add onto mine, people are more likely to sink their money into something to make it perfect so it actually looks "perfect" not "fake" as people are calling the residue thing.
    REPLY: (by Manta) Feb 28 2018 8:38am
    The height pellet is a great money sink, which is what we need. The idea is that if we take away residue, people will start buying non max hh horses again, knowing that they can pellet them to max height without them losing their original value.
    REPLY: (by Cobber) Feb 28 2018 8:39am
    I think that the height pellet should just be removed all together as people will continue to use them to get their horses maxhh. Instead maybe we could just keep the colour pellet? As a different colour doesn't change the value as much as a different height.
    REPLY: (by Cobber) Feb 28 2018 8:39am
    Maybe a pellet for gender to replace the height pellet? That way we'd still have something to sink money into
    REPLY: (by Winchester) Feb 28 2018 8:46am
    I think that we need a gender pellet. That would be perfect. I personally would buy more horses knowing that I could pellet the gender to whichever I wanted. Then not only would I be buying more horses, I would also be spending money on the pellet as well. Also, pellets are very, very expensive. I don't know if making them more affordable would be helpful in any way. Just a though.
    REPLY: (by Hedwig) Feb 28 2018 8:49am
    I'd say keep height, colour, UT & gender pellet. Just remove the residue. All of them can be money sinks x
    REPLY: (by Ijump) Feb 28 2018 8:51am
    Ok, long post but I've bullet pointed it to make it easier.

    1. Residue is fine. I'm almost happy seeing it. If someone is willing to pellet a horse it shows to me that people are willing to spend stupid amount of dolla on something at the risk of devaluing it, so they clearly valued the pixels on a personal level. For this reason I almost prefer things with residue, although I know I'm the minority.

    2. So what if it changes horse values? It's another thing to be chosey on. If people want something to be 'clean' and are willing to pay more for it then that's fine for them, it's not a problem. Yes, boo for you, you can't sell your pony for as much as someone else who has one without residue, but it's supply and demand, that's how the world works.

    3. I really don't think height pellets are a problem. They cost more than the added value of a horse when its maxhh so it's not economically viable to pellet for the sake of increasing a horses value.

    4. Gender pellet is cute, sure why not, pop it in the res count though for above reasons.

    That's all folks.
    REPLY: (by Cobber) Feb 28 2018 8:57am
    I agree with Hedwig's list apart from maybe all pellets should be priced differently? For example, height pellets should be more than colour pellets and then we'll have an even bigger money sink?
    So my list would be -

    Keep all pellets but hide the residue from the horse's profile. (maybe it can be a player stat, under player exp on a profile it could say horse's pelleted and the amount?

    Add a gender pellet

    Does that work for everyone?
    REPLY: (by Cobber) Feb 28 2018 8:58am
    Oh and increase the cost of height / decrease the cost of colour pellet
    REPLY: (by Jedi) Feb 28 2018 9:01am
    Pellets are a great thing, considering po's are so unreliable, height and color pellets give us another way to "po" a horse. However, the counter in the profile is not a great thing, because people treat it like a disease and consider the horse to be worthless even if it only has 1 magic residue on it. It hurts the economy because horses with residue don't sell for their worth. So I agree with keeping pellets, but just getting rid of the counters.
    REPLY: (by Jedi) Feb 28 2018 9:09am
    I disagree with pellet prices changing as well (unless the developers want to put the economy back to how it used to be *laughing out loud!*)
    REPLY: (by Lioness) Mar 4 2018 5:53pm
    I like residue, coming from a player who was around before there were "easy way outs" and was against UT (UNTRAINABLE, remember?) pellets from the start. Height pellets came after, and I still can't get behind either. So yes, if there is a record saying how much the horse has been artificially altered, the better.
    REPLY: (by Misfortune) Mar 4 2018 11:51pm
    I feel like the counter just ruins all the work they put into jacking up the economy. It's much harder to make money, and nice horses sell for a ton. think the whole idea was that we would run ourselves out of billions by pelleting or something and therefore prices would lower, but the counter just makes people less likely to pellet. so there's still a ton of money in the game, held by a few people, and they aren't going to give it up to pellet something if it will just reduce the value because the res counter. so horse prices are made up and the economy is a mess (pawn food or 500m+ there is hardly an in between). but maybe i'm still just unhappy about the econ changes with no notice *laughing out loud!*...
    REPLY: (by CookieDough) Mar 20 2018 8:34pm
    It would be great to have the counter removed. All it seems to do is devalue horses
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 21 2018 12:27pm
    The counter is there because players asked for it. They wanted to know whether the horse was "natural" or not. That is a valid issue, so I imagine the counter will stay.

    Basically the pellets are for you to use on your horses if you wish to up something or change something. Should you choose to sell the horse, then the buyer has a right to know if the horse has been altered in any way. They buyer may then buy or not as they wish.

    As the owners are currently working on seeing if they are going to do a HI3 or something... I doubt Joe and Miranda will get involved in removing something that players asked for.

    If so, they possibly would just remove the pellets, that would be easier probably to do.

    Having all horses for sale that have max height, max stats, etc. Messes up the "pool" of horses. It was put in for players to basically use personally.

    And again, the buyer has a right to know if the horse originally came that way or if it was altered. An altered horse should sell for less since it's not "natural." It's been altered. This allows for those rare horses that do come out max whatever to be special.

    Otherwise no horses are special. It would end up with all horses for sale being max height. So no one would then care if the horse was max height. And for those who don't want max height, too bad.

    I think it's best basically to leave it as it is. :)
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    REPLY: (by Kira) Jul 26 2018 8:13am
    Can you redo some of the horses? I realize there aren't that many players but us players who don't play the newer versions of the game would like to see our favorites look better or at least close to the breeds real appearance.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 26 2018 12:04pm
    Which do you wish to see re-done?

    Some can't be as the original file isn't available.

    Many players like the current version and don't want their horses re-done so there are some breeds that in the past have been nixed do to player choice on re-do's.

    Not sure if it's possible to do that at this time anyway, but we can see. So please post which breeds you would like to see re-done and what it is that you would like to see changed about the breed, then others can also include their ideas and a yes/no for that breed. :)
    REPLY: (by Kira) Jul 28 2018 12:50am
    Morgans because they dont resemble the breed at all. Belgian because they are in dire need of a tune a up. Clydesdale because they have very little resemblance to the breed. POA because all of the patterns clash. Even the color of the Shire could be redone. twh Could use a definite touch up and So could the Paso Fino to look morecrealistic.

    If the Azteca can be redone there is no reason why these ones cant because I thought they looked fine.
    REPLY: (by SwanSong) Jul 29 2018 12:45pm
    DesertPaint already said above:

    "Some can't be as the original file isn't available.

    Many players like the current version and don't want their horses re-done so there are some breeds that in the past have been nixed do to player choice on re-do's." (Other players have opinions too and many may not want certain breeds changed.)

    Those could be some reasons why your suggestions would not be redone. Also, they are massively involved with working on HI3 at this time and that needs to be taken into consideration.
    REPLY: (by CookieDough) Aug 7 2018 12:56pm
    I'd be happy to see the POA, morgan or Belgians redone or touched up to better resemble their breed. Honestly I like seeing things redone more than new breeds being added, but that could just be me
    REPLY: (by LucyPennykettle) Aug 8 2018 5:57am
    I'd agree with the POA and TWH. Mostly because I can't unsee that the TWH only has 3 legs...
    REPLY: (by Rude) Aug 9 2018 2:16pm
    POA, TWH, Morgan, Chincoteague, Sorraia (look -nothing- like real Sorraias) and Lipizzans for sure too!
    Oh and Paso Finos
    REPLY: (by Yellow) Aug 14 2018 4:18pm
    I would love to see more Exmoor Pony colors. Like black, grey, and roan.
    REPLY: (by Miranda) Aug 20 2018 1:49pm
    Please see my post about adding more colors to breeds. I'll take votes off of there.
    Thanks!
    REPLY: (by Jinx) Dec 3 2018 8:32pm
    I would like to see the MFT's redone.
    REPLY: (by NichiMe) Dec 6 2018 11:13pm
    Personally I like all of the old breeds the way they are; I've never been a fan of the new, indistinguishable art style. That is my vote.
    REPLY: (by Rambler) Feb 13 2019 8:11pm
    Morgans, TWHs and POAs please if they have the time :) better breed resemblance and smoother coloring
    REPLY: (by LeapofFaith) Mar 7 2019 8:08pm
    I would love to see the American Cream Drafts be redone. I saw one at my lesson barn tonight and they are adorable palo-y chonks. The current ACDs don't have much of a resemblance at all (no offense to the artist) in both their structure and color.
    REPLY: (by Azuki) Jun 5 2019 8:10am
    I'd love to see Norikers and Friesians redone to look more like the actual breeds!
    REPLY: (by DesertWind) Jun 5 2019 1:09pm
    Locking this as Miranda has requested this be kept to her thread. Please see her thread titled "Adding Colors to Old Breeds."

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    PMing Players (by Miranda) Aug 31 2007 4:09pm
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    A Website (by Miranda) Nov 9 2007 2:41pm
    We all know that we don't want the players sharing websites, however, there is one that I have found out could actually cause players to give their password out. The site is ponypaws. If a player is 'managing' a server on the site (you can create your own sim game or something) then when players join their server, they create an account. This includes a password. If a player from here joins, chances are good they'll use the same password as they do for this game. The 'manager' can see the passwords and then can come on to here, go into that player's account and take whatever they want.
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    REPLY: (by Miranda) Mar 29 2008 11:41am
    Reading through an abuse report I saw something that I thought you all could benefit from. This is one of the reasons I tell you guys, if you mute someone for something, to just tell them why they are muted and basically leave it at that.

    NaughtyPlayer PM TO: Harasser|yeah =] i dont use ads chat *laughing out loud!*
    Harasser PM TO: NaughtyPlayer|*laughing out loud!*! NEVER hehe
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    Harasser PM TO: NaughtyPlayer|so i chatted to her and annoyed her heaps *laughing out loud!*
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    REPLY: (by Miranda) Oct 5 2008 10:00pm
    I thought you guys might get a kick out of this. I have a player that keeps emailing support asking random questions. Well in one email she sends this story she made up. So, enjoy. :)


    How HorseIsle Came To Be
    By PawPrintPony
    One day Miranda was taking care of her horses.Suddenly she looked up to see a beautiful Unicorn!The Unicorn said,''I am Sparkle.I shall take you to my homeland,were Magical horses run free.'' Shocked,Miranda stumbled forward a bit and nodded
    then jumped onto Sparkles back.With that the Unicorn and Miranda were gone.Only purple dust floated in the air.Then suddenly on a cloud a puff of purple dust appeared.Poof!Miranda and Sparkle were on Cloud Isle! Sparkle said softly,''This is my home.Cloud Isle.''Miranda gasped and looked around.Then snapped back into reality and asked,''Why did you bring me here?'' Sparkle replied,''You now have an importmant task.Create a world of fun and laughter.A world were wild horses run free!A world with breeds from all over!Islands of horses and people!Quests to do and games to play!Were everyone can have their own dream horse!It shall be called...'' The unicorn paused then said,''HorseIsle.'' Miranda gasped and asked,''Can my freinds and family help?'' Sparkle replied,''Of course.'' With that the unicorn poofed Miranda away.Back to her own land.She began her work and all her friends and family pitched in to help.And soon they finished the new world called HorseIsle.Updating it every month or so.And here we all are.On HorseIsle.Enjoying it as much as we possibbly can.And for the few whom can go to Cloud Isle have probably met Sparkle and her friends.They might have even got to ride one of them.And we all today live happilly ever after.
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    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Mar 23 2009 11:08am
    I need some clarification on this:

    A player is not to give away horses/money/items if they're leaving, correct? If someone is giving away a horse, or an item because they are holding a (free) contest, or they just want to give a friend something, is this acceptable?

    I also couldn't find this in the detailed rules. I checked under "G" for "giveaway" and "L" for "leaving" and didn't find anything. Is it located elsewhere in the detailed rules?
    REPLY: (by Miranda) Mar 23 2009 11:25am
    That's fine. Our main concern is that they don't empty their account before they quit or try to have their account deleted since they could get the things back on their new account. Often times if they do just randomly give things away to a lot of different people, it isn't as big of a deal because not just one or two people are getting everything from that account. Also, it is far less likely they would be able to get those things back if they started over with a new account. If that made any sense. . .
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 23 2009 11:57am
    Also, it's under Q for Quitting. :)
    REPLY: (by Meritae) Apr 1 2009 8:11pm
    What are the rules regarding SELLING items/horses when quitting. Is that allowed?
    REPLY: (by Miranda) Apr 1 2009 9:59pm
    That's fine. Unless it is obvious they are "selling" them to friends for super cheap. That doesn't happen too often, but it has. Then they "buy" the horse back on their new account for far less than it would actually be worth.
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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 11 2009 11:39am
    I wanted to share this, it was sent into support mail:
    The Town Song (fast tempo)
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    You go to.....
    Earton Treeton Appleton
    Welcome Isle is where you begin
    take the boat to Earton---->
    (slower tempo)
    Jump Barrel race paint for Nadine
    Find pine cones around pine trees
    get honey combs from the bees---->
    Here on Horse Isle!!!

    The Isle Song
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    Oh----> it\'s cold on snow
    Where igloos are called home
    Close to other isles
    It\'s hot on Desert
    With sandy weather
    and pyramids all around
    If your wanting something tropical
    Where it\'s always wet
    Look for a big isle all the way to the west
    Jungle is huge Vine isle is too
    Llamas can be found there
    Ancient te-kes to
    Right in the middle is.....
    Horse Isle

    Horse Isle
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    Where do you go?
    You have nothing to do
    Go online thats what you should do
    Type in the site
    That you think is the best
    If you typed Horse Isle
    You\'d be correct

    Chorus
    Is there a place
    Where you have friends
    That treat you nicely
    The answer is yes

    If you like horses
    This is the place for you
    If you need help
    ask a mod
    They will help you
    THeres no other place like this
    Created by Joe and Miranda
    Horse Isle is here forever Chorus End

    Horse Isle is her today
    Horse Isle is a place for play
    Horse Isle is here to stay
    Horse Isle!
    Horse Isle!!!

    Verse 2

    a game we play together
    Yeah!!!
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    REPLY: (by Miranda) Sep 28 2009 8:10pm
    I have noticed that some mods feel more comfortable giving personal information to other mods. This often includes their real name, emails or personal messenger information. Please remember this is considered breaking the rules.

    These rules are in place for the safety of all of you and it is important that you guys follow them as well as enforce them. :)

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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 19 2009 4:10pm
    Players may have releasing parties if they wish. What they may not do is advertise them. So as long as they are in chat here, or buddy chat, it's ok.

    We can make a post reminding them that once the horse is out of their account it does not belong to them, and they may or may not get it back. But that's really all. If they want to risk losing a horse they can.

    Just let them duke it out *laughing out loud!* They do need to keep the problems out of public chat. As they choose to risk losing the horse, they lost it, their problem. If they choose to ignore the rules, that too is their problem. Basically, moderators shouldn't even know about a releasing party. :P Unless it's in buddy chat or something. :S
    REPLY: (by Naginata) Oct 19 2009 4:40pm
    So, what if they do continue to hold a releasing party
    after it's been advertised? I usually continue to warn and
    eventually send to Rules, because sometimes they continue
    advertising...
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 19 2009 4:51pm
    They may still have the party, just not advertise it. If they keep advertising, then a 5 or 10 minute mute usually works. :P *laughing out loud!* Times can then increase if they continue... *evil grin*
    REPLY: (by Nimaway) Oct 19 2009 6:40pm
    I once sent a player to Prison after repeated posts in global for a releasing party
    I figured if they were removed they would stop and read my pms to them and start doing the right thing
    The very next post from them...
    Releasing Party is now on Prison Isle.. coz a mod sent me there
    *head desk*
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 19 2009 8:14pm
    lmhro
    REPLY: (by QuiltingMomma) Oct 20 2009 6:06am
    I love that one..........prison!!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 19 2010 6:40pm
    Players may hold releasing parties if they must *laughing out loud!* They may not advertise however. If they continue to advertise then they can be muted. They may still have the release party though, just need to be quiet about it. :)

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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 29 2009 12:48pm
    Please do not ever discuss another players account. This includes violations another player may have received for something, or rules that another player may have broken.

    You may say they broke some rules. That's really all. If a player wishes to know which rules, they will need to talk to the player who broke the rules. Basically, it's none of their business what violations another player has or has not received, or whether or not another player has been banned.

    If another player has a horse that is being boarded by a banned player, then basically that is their problem. It's a risk they choose to take by letting the horse out of their account. Besides, actually you do not know if the player is on a temp ban, and for how long... of if at some point the player will be allowed back onto the game or not. :S Sometimes temp bans can become permanent, or permanent bans become temp bans. It depends on many things that are basically dealt with in support mail.

    *gets off soap box now* *laughing out loud!* :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Anyone along our RV route?
    REPLY: (by Joe) Dec 1 2009 7:49pm
    Hey guys, thanks for all your MOD help :)

    This is breaking AALLL the rules. :) We'll be asking for personal info here. Please don't scold us. :)

    We are currently near Los Angeles, and recently stayed with Mod/Admin DesertPaint. It was a good time, and allowed us time to focus more on work rather than staying at a noisy parking lot RV park, or in the middle of the forest with slow internet.. . . So, we were wondering if anyone else would like to have us stop by on our route.

    Our plan (I think) is to work our way up to North west Montana over the next few weeks. .. So, if you meet the following please email Miranda directly by substituting her name in, instead of support before @horseisle:

    1) Want to hang out with us a bit. We are low maintenance. We travel with everything we need, except a bathroom, since the Cats needed the space. . .(Don't ask)

    2) Over 18. We don't really want to be putting out anybody's parents.. . And maybe let us know your general family/living situation. If you have 4 HI kid players, that may be difficult to keep our "Secrets Safe"! hahahaha

    3) Let us know what kind of parking you have? On street or country property, etc. If it's below 20 at night, we may need an extension cord for a little heat ;)

    We aren't sure of the route yet, and can't give any specifics, but if we have your info and it's on the way, we'd appreciate the visit I'm sure. We can payback the favor with dinner, or maybe a "Sneak peak". . . . .
    hahahah

    Thanks much,
    -Joe
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Dec 1 2009 7:56pm
    Doesn't sound like you'll be going through the Midwest. However, if you ever come out this way, let me know! :)
    REPLY: (by Korrailli) Dec 1 2009 8:06pm
    If you wanted to come a little north to Canada, you could hang out here. I am not THAT far from the boarder *laughing out loud!*.
    REPLY: (by Nyneave) Dec 1 2009 8:58pm
    Awwwww. too bad you didn't say something sooner. I believe Miranda mentioned y'all were in Mobile around the time Ida hit. I live in that area....sort of.
    REPLY: (by OkamiFreak) Dec 1 2009 9:12pm
    Aw, I'm way off in Pennsylvania *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by Tdos) Dec 1 2009 9:18pm
    Hmm, going through Montana, I'm on your route. Will have to talk with hubby to find out if it is okay. When exactly would you be traveling?
    REPLY: (by Naginata) Dec 2 2009 6:16am
    OrbWeaver's right... If you ever come through the Midwest,
    I'd be happy to have you visit. =)
    REPLY: (by LaGitana) Dec 2 2009 7:37am
    Same here, way off in Pennsylvania. :-(
    REPLY: (by Nimaway) Dec 2 2009 8:05am
    If you are heading south west from Montana .. and travel ooo 9908 miles you can come stay here.. cats welcome, great internet and the river at my front door :)
    and the bonus.. Its Summer here!
    REPLY: (by NonsenseBot) Dec 2 2009 8:27am
    Boo , I am in Northern Canada, should you ever cross borders you are more than welcome here :) We have plenty of parking for RV's as I am in a summer town !
    Happy Travels !
    REPLY: (by FeelingFroggy) Dec 2 2009 11:02am
    *sniffle*...I think you were my way already...if you ever come back to the south, near Florida, let me know and you can come hang out here. We have 15 acres, are out in the woods and have an RV hookup! Miranda, you could finally come to one of those dance workshops! :)
    REPLY: (by DabbyDoose) Dec 2 2009 2:24pm
    Once you get back to MN and dont want to head home yet, I am close to ND border!!!
    REPLY: (by LadyCourage) Dec 2 2009 3:17pm
    Oh man! I'm in Nebraska... =P
    REPLY: (by Miranda) Dec 2 2009 9:13pm
    Yeah, we didn't think of this earlier. Too bad. Well, something to keep in mind for if we head out again I guess. :D
    REPLY: (by Fossil) Dec 2 2009 9:54pm
    Man...I'm on your route...but I'm with my parents *laughing out loud!*. Drat. Would have loved to have you guys stay here, got plenty of room, plus an rv hook up I think.
    REPLY: (by Meritae) Dec 2 2009 10:19pm
    Skip all the snow. Come south and hang out with me in Georgia.
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Dec 3 2009 7:53am
    noooo come to england hehehe its only a slight detour
    REPLY: (by UnmindfulFlipper) Dec 3 2009 8:10am
    If you get into Montana, decide you like it and stay in the north part heading east, I could be on your route.
    REPLY: (by HarvestMoon) Dec 3 2009 12:28pm
    It is actually SUMMER in New Zealand! AND we are a walk from the beach! Don't know how you get the RV here though.
    REPLY: (by Ennui) Dec 4 2009 11:51am
    If you want to try Google directions, they can get you from Los Angeles to Sydney, Australia. >:) They can't get you to New Zealand though. :P But I especially like their wonderfully easy directions, Step 248: Kayak across the Pacific Ocean Entering Australia (Northern Territory) 3,358 mi.
    REPLY: (by UnbridledTrainer) Dec 4 2009 12:26pm
    I'm in Florida here (less than an hour from Mobile if you guys would have said something when you were there you could have hung out here)....*shakes "naughty" finger at admins* Shame Shame for not thinking of this sooner. *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by Miranda) Dec 4 2009 1:12pm
    *laughing out loud!* I just looked at Google Maps. Wow! I can't believe they actually tell you to kayak across the ocean... :D

    Yeah, we definitely should have thought of it sooner. I didn't realize so many of our mods were around Florida. :)
    REPLY: (by EquineAcres) Dec 4 2009 5:54pm
    Well, that all depends....going north first, then west? Feel like checking out Washington (meaning more than the airport)? You'd be welcome :)
    REPLY: (by UnbridledTrainer) Dec 4 2009 7:15pm
    Hmmm....I wonder why so many FL people play. Maybe because for 9 months out of the year its so hot you don't want to go outside the house. It's much more comfortable to stay in the A/C and play PC games. *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by Washu) Dec 5 2009 7:13am
    *laughing out loud!*. If you decide to trek out toward DC, I'm not too far and live on a gorgeous horse farm. Safe travels!
    REPLY: (by SpottedRose) Dec 5 2009 8:14am
    If you go to Google Maps and ask for directions from New York to London, it takes you to Boston it _used_ to say, "Swim 3,000 miles to Land's End" but alas, doesn't anymore.
    REPLY: (by Tdos) Dec 5 2009 8:16am
    I remember when it said that.
    REPLY: (by AnnieOakley) Dec 6 2009 9:50am
    Ditto for the Midwest (Illinois)
    REPLY: (by Harperking) Dec 6 2009 7:08pm
    Well, if you're ever in the Nashville area we have a guest room always ready for folks. We call it "Erin's Bed & Biscuit" since the beagle usually keeps guests company in there XD
    REPLY: (by Arowan) Dec 7 2009 10:56am
    Well... if you're visiting around northern arizona, I might be in town *college town* (though I'm heading back home thursday... for winter break)

    Not far from the Grand Canyon!
    Otherwise... doubt my parents would be cool with an RV in front of our house xD not that we have outlets, anyway.
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Dec 7 2009 11:05am
    Oh My mum and dad have told me i can feel free to invite friends to stay at our horse, Id just take them up on it *rolling on floor laughing!*. Id be like ok so we've got someone coming with an RV today where will it go
    REPLY: (by EquineAcres) Dec 8 2009 6:56am
    Stay at your horse? Offering a stall are we?
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Dec 8 2009 8:26am
    *rolling on floor laughing!* you can just see im horse mad!
    REPLY: (by PurpleZebra) Dec 8 2009 11:04am
    I'll add my vote to you making a detour to Down Under ;-)
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 20 2010 10:14pm
    If you ever come to Red Wing, be sure to look me up! I'd love to meet you and show you around town here!
    REPLY: (by SimpyFrog) Jan 21 2010 10:29am
    Darn I live in Oklahoma now. Used to live in northern California up in the mountains but moved away from all that snow.
    REPLY: (by CheshireKitty) Jan 26 2010 1:49am
    I'm in the Oregon Valley area. Don't really think it's on your route though or I'd love to.
    REPLY: (by OneCuteCowgirl) Mar 29 2010 9:34am
    well if you ever make it to kentucky way you're more then welcome to stay with us :0 i have plenty of parking it's nice and peacful here :)
    REPLY: (by ChaosGypsy) Mar 31 2010 6:10pm
    Well I dont know who is where or what the time frame is but we have 22 acres of open space in TX. and tons of room for an RV as well as an open apartment over the garage to stretch out in *laughing out loud!* doors open just us grown ups here =) and the critters sound out if the space is needed =)

    Romi
    REPLY: (by Miranda) Mar 31 2010 7:29pm
    We're home working now, but we are planning on heading out again this summer. We'll have to keep this idea in mind again. :)
    REPLY: (by Rustler) Apr 13 2010 10:55am
    You are always welcome back home on the range. Thanks for setting up our first computer with John Gobatz soooo many years ago Joe. If you ever get back to Lake Vermilion again, email us.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Just some information about the rules
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 5 2009 9:29am
    Here are a few things I frequently run across that seems to be confusing for some of the mods, or something that perhaps they haven't run into before. :)

    It is against the rules to share passwords accounts. This is cheating. All players can be banned. Hopefully not permanently, and sometimes it's not a ban just violations as each account is taken separately. This includes going onto another's account to train for them. Each player is responsible for their own account, so if that "friend" gets them banned, then they are banned just as if they had said that. We don't return horses, items or money that was taken off of these accounts either. So if they share passwords then basically they are screaming "Someone hack me and take everything I have."

    Players who are banned need to use the Contact Us link and contact support if they need to know why or for how long they are banned. Sometimes all they have to do is contact us to get back on, since we banned an account to protect it, or for because we needed to talk to that player about the rules before they can play on the account again.

    Bans are rarely actually permanent. Most of the time they are temporary. If not a timed ban it still may not be permanent, we just need the player to contact support. Sometimes players will be given a 1 month ban, or a 2 or 3 month ban then allowed to return. Sometimes they may return but not on that same account = they had to forfeit an account. Most of the time for this type of ban they must promise to follow or comply with certain things. If, they still can't follow the rules and break the agreement, then the ban becomes as permanent as we can make it. It is a game after all, and these for the most part are kids.

    That's all I can think of before breakfast. *laughing out loud!*

    If you have any questions please ask, and if I think of something else I will add it here. :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Confusion over what is and is not allowed
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 23 2009 9:27am
    There seems to be a bit of confusion over what is and is not allowed. Here is my 2 cents, Miranda may wish to change or tweak this.

    Players may talk about Twilight, Harry Potter, Lady Gaga, etc. just not in global. Twilight and Lady Gaga are not rated for this game, they basically are PG 13 with players here under 13, so this needs to be moved out of public chat. Can be chat here, buddy (if ok with all buddies) or pm.

    For HarryPotter, might not be ok for some of the really young kids, however it's basicall a PG movie. It does start fights and unless everyone on the server at that time wishes to talk about it, it should also go into private chat.

    They may say anyone want to talk about Harry Potter, or Twilight... meet me ... or pm me... That's fine.

    What isn't allowed is flooding chat (maybe ok for a few minutes in playing, but not continuously,) talking about something that bothers others, controversial topics such as politics or religion.

    No offensive content such as biting, licking, eating others. Some of that is also violent, but mostly comes under offensive.

    Global is to chat in a general environment, something that should involve most of the players online at that time may be a server wide chat, that's fine. As long as it's not argumentative or offensive or cruel in any way. Asking for help for a quest, or how to do something... that also goes in Global. :)

    This is my blip for Twilight:
    As Twilight is rated PG13, and there are players under 13, please keep Twilight chat in private chat, thanks. :)

    I also will *poof* Twilight or Harry Potter or whatever the topic is that is not appreciated in global into Private Chat. Or at least out of public chat.

    If the entire server seems to be having fun with Harry Potter, and the content does stay appropriate, then it can be in global, for a bit anyway... But only for 5 or perhaps 10 minutes especially if there is a high player count. Since not all players wish to discuss Harry Potter...

    If possible, try to play them into a non public chat, with poofing, or tickling, or something... *laughing out loud!* Helps keep down the fights. :S

    If you have any questions about something that is not covered here, please post and ask! :)

    We kind of need to all be on the same page, regardless of server. :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 23 2009 9:40am
    I thought of a few more things to add *laughing out loud!*

    Celebrity chat also should really go into non-public chat as again, some hate that celebrity, some love them... there goes the fighting. They may chat all they want to as long as it's not in public chat. *laughing out loud!*

    We used to be able to have some of that type of chat in global, but any more too many players whose sole purpose is to disagree with something, end up starting server wide fights.

    No sad topics, no death topics, no serious injury, no hate speak, no date speak...

    Since this is Christmas time... Santa is allowed, (well he is up there on Christmas isle after all *laughing out loud!* ) however, players may not trash Santa, there are young children that play. My blib: Santa is quite real, he is on Christmas Isle. :) Then a pm to the player requesting them to keep negative comments out of public chat, that young children play here, please respect this.
    REPLY: (by NightMare) Dec 23 2009 9:41am
    You explain things so well, thanks!
    REPLY: (by LadyCourage) Dec 23 2009 10:06am
    Yes DP, thank you! Very clear!
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Dec 23 2009 1:04pm
    Thanks DP I love it when you make things so clear for us :D
    REPLY: (by EquineAcres) Dec 24 2009 6:11pm
    :D Thanks DP
    REPLY: (by Unjust) Dec 27 2009 5:30pm
    Ok what if the chat isn't causing any problems at all no one is complaining and they are talking civilly and family friendly are we still to deny them the freedom of speach?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 27 2009 6:18pm
    Sort of depends, you have to use your best judgment. As long as the content is ok for the game, and it's not bothering anyone, it's basically ok. However, if for example with Twilight, they get into biting, or who is the hottest, Jacob or Edward, then that's violence, dating.

    The same with Harry Potter, if it's not bothering anyone, it's ok, but only if it doesn't go on too long or totally flood global. The first post I see where someone says, "Oh not again!" Or something like that, then the chat needs to clear out of global. They may chat all they like in chat here, buddy or pm. So it's not like we are denying them their chat, just moving it to another channel so it doesn't become harassing.

    It's not really fair for others to have to mute global because of the content, since global is for all the server players.

    Chestnut (I think...) had a nice global chat about Harry Potter the other night, lasted probably 5 or 6 minutes, then since other players were trying to ask for quest help, and it was being scrolled off the screen, I just asked the players to take Harry Potter to private chat please as it was sort of flooding global. They didn't have any problems with that.

    Violence that is more than marshmallow or tomato throwing really shouldn't be on the game where the young children can see it. Neither should vampire topics, or dating. So, as long as they aren't breaking the rules, it's ok. :)
    REPLY: (by Unjust) Dec 27 2009 6:48pm
    Yes that is what I was refering too as there has been a number of times now I have been online when the players have had really good nice conversations on these topics and it has never gone badly. But if we don't give them the chance to show they can do the correct thing then how will they ever learn, surely the benifit of the doubt has to apply rather than jumping on them the moment they mention any of these topics.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 29 2009 8:04pm
    Players may ask for others to join in competitions in global chat if they wish, however they may only ask once ever 5 minutes if it's in global. If they wish to ask more often, then it needs to go into ads chat. Otherwise it's spamming. :)

    They may also have their releasing parties if they wish, they just may not advertise them. So, if they keep advertising after being asked to not do so, you can mute them for 5 minutes, then 10 if they still continue. It's not against the rules to release a horse, or have a releasing party. It's a pain for those who whisper the released horses, yes... but it's still not against the rules. *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 31 2009 7:04pm
    Please remember not to criticize a player for how much they are selling something for. If they want to put an outrageous price on something they can... Players may pay that price if they wish, but they don't have to if they don't wish to. :)
    REPLY: (by Unjust) Jan 3 2010 6:04pm
    Ok on dun this morning there is players logging in and out constantly and one player every time they could post an ad would advertise boarding horses for players. Now due to the large amount of players coming and going so fast I kept posting the boarding warning which then (Bangs head) caused drama cause the player got up in arms over the other players being warned of the risks of boarding. I just wish boarding could be banned it would save so many problems of stolen animals etc. etc.
    REPLY: (by Unjust) Jan 3 2010 8:33pm
    Ok it seems that on cremello i have been told many times now by players that they are allowed to be saying in global that they have killed SJ cause i get the whole but it is common to say it etc. etc. and they don't like me not letting them say it.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 3 2010 9:06pm
    Boarding would be just about impossible to ban, as there really isn't any way to prevent it. Sort of like with role playing. There really isn't any way to prevent it. We just hope to keep it nice. The same way with boarding, if they choose to take the risk then it's up to them. Many players and moderators board horses for others without any problems. Only some cheat, or are caught with someone being banned and boarding a horse. As long as the players are reminded once in a while that they might lose the horse, there really isn't anything else we can do.

    I don't really like the killed part, but as it's not direct violence against a person or animal I sort of ignore it. *laughing out loud!* Basically they are just saying they did fantastic at sj. So the overall context is ok. *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by Unjust) Jan 3 2010 11:33pm
    Any topics surrounding the death matter are not appropriate for Global so please drop it.

    So I am guessing that Killing showjumping no matter what they actually mean doesn't fit into this which sorry seems they could say any word means anything pretty much sorry to sound difficult.
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Jun 13 2011 4:26pm
    Thought I'd use just this preexisting threat..
    I know noob in any form isn't allowed.. o or zeros.. and newbie is allowed.. Is newb allowed? I thought in a previous post it was said they could use newb or newbie.. or did I misunderstand?? thank you in advance
    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Jun 13 2011 4:28pm
    If I remember i asked this a few weeks or months ago..I remember you (DP) saying that because Noob and Newb are pronounced the same that they are both out. And that Newbie" is the only form allowed because they were going around the rule and using Newb.
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Jun 13 2011 4:43pm
    noob/noobie isnt ok, newb/newbie isnt great, best if they just put new player/person, its still insulting the other ways

    okay this is what was found.. thank you LADYF.. it kind of still leaves a lot of room for can they are can't they.. is there a definite yes or not to this NEWB/NEWBIE?
    The player was calling themselves a newb in this latest case
    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Jun 13 2011 4:48pm
    I honestly think because of all the confusion this term should be banned all together, *laughing out loud!* Just my thoughts :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 13 2011 6:57pm
    They may not use noob or noobie, but newb or newbie is ok, it's just short for new person.

    It's the way it's used, and how an um, other dictionary lists it as common kid usage. :S *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Jun 13 2011 7:02pm
    Thank you DP for once again clearing the air.. :)
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Jun 13 2011 7:27pm
    Just a suggestion or help maybe for us who are coming across those still wanting to battle the "there is no difference so why can't we use noob" folks..
    Tonight I came across a player that was doing just that so I gave them the example:
    Noob is a rude way of speaking to or about a new player.. kinda like saying "eww it's the new kid"..vs just saying "hey it's a new kid"
    I don't know if this helps or not.. some seem to want to argue anything. I also did remind the player if you have a problem with the admins decision please feel free to contact their support under the contact us at the bottom of the page... *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 13 2011 8:12pm
    I like that Froggy! Exactly! :)
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Jun 13 2011 9:50pm
    Player: ___FIND THE BANANA (#2)___Prize:100k :D -If you want another hint... they are 10k per hint. But there will be a free one every 2HI hours(pm me)

    I wasn't sure what the rule is on this, since the detailed rules don't specifically cover hints, but I went ahead and told the player that she can't charge for anything related to the contest, including hints. Just making sure this is the right thing to tell the player.
    REPLY: (by LadyFaerie) Jun 13 2011 11:23pm
    the contest should be in ads, pm, here or profile, and can only be announced that theyre having one in global, however yes charging is a nono.
    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Jun 14 2011 8:03am
    Thanks for clearing that Up DP. I really thought I remembered you telling me that "newb" was not ok because of all the ways they were "skirting" around the rules. And because "newb" was pronounced the same as "noob". But I think after this post I will DEF> remember that Newb is ok, *laughing out loud!* I now have an apology to make to a player, *laughing out loud!* HEY, I have no problems admitting when I am wrong :D Thanks again :) And Froglips, Thanks for your patience as well as we figured all of this out :) I still say we should ban the entire term because of all the confusion, *laughing out loud!* I mean honestly why cant they just take the extra second to say "new player" *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 14 2011 8:10am
    It basically also depends on how it's used. Newb can, be use both ways. So if it looks derogatory then it should be changed or removed. If it looks like it's for newbie, then it can stay.

    Noob and Noobie are definitely derogatory.
    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Jun 15 2011 9:02am
    Ugh, Once again..there is too much grey area with this darn word, *laughing out loud!* Im telling ya..Ban it. And maybe THAT is where my confusion was...That sounds more like it, *laughing out loud!* So it is NOT ok when used in certain contexts....Ok, I KNEW in some way you told me it was NOT allowed, *laughing out loud!*. Ok, Now I dont think I am going crazy, *laughing out loud!*. Thanks again.

    Ok, one of the BIGGEST uses of this word is when they say, "I feel like a Newb" or "Dont treat me like a Newb"

    They will maybe say something silly and then follow with ,"I feel like a Newb" So, in this context would it be ok?

    Im sorry to keep bothering you with this but this term is VERY frustrating as they DO try their best to push the rules with it, *laughing out loud!* I understand mostly kids being kids...But Honestly. before I played this game..this is NOT a term that I heard often. What ever happen to "Hello, I see your new here...Welcome" Sighhhhh
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Jun 15 2011 11:07am
    If they are referring to themselves they can call themselves a newb.. It's when they are like oh my gosh not another NEWB..or ohhh geezz that NEWB is driving me nuts asking for free things etc.. then that is when it's in a negative sense and the player would need a reminder to maybe great the player a more politely.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 15 2011 11:12am
    Yes, the "I feel like a Newb" is ok. As is the "Don't treat me like a Newb." As they are also referring to themselves.

    What would not work is "That stupid Newb." Or "She such a Newb!" Then, it's being used in the same way as Noob. = In a derogatory manner.

    They so love to push the limits. *sigh* And it's a full moon... *hides*
    REPLY: (by Naginata) Jun 15 2011 4:38pm
    Can someone explain why horse rescues aren't allowed again? I had a problem with a player just now, and I'm hoping I explained it well enough. But it would be nice to be able to find it somewhere here. =)
    REPLY: (by DarkFaerie) Jun 15 2011 4:44pm
    Horse Rescue's sounds like it indicates there is cruelty involved. As there is no cruelty on HorseIsle they are not allowed to have them. If I remember correctly they may have a rehoming centre or whatever.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 15 2011 7:54pm
    Horses are not harmed on this game, thus nothing to rescue. Rescue's sound like they are keeping something from being harmed. No need for rescues on this game. They may have an adoption center for unwanted horses or something, but not a rescue. :)
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    REPLY: (by Miranda) Jan 13 2010 10:16am
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    As mods it is crucial that you follow this rule. You need to be a good example to the other, especially younger, players. By hearing about you sharing this info, they don't see why it is wrong or bad for them to share it.

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    REPLY: (by Miranda) Feb 24 2010 8:59pm
    I just wanted to remind the mods that chatspeak is not -strictly- against the rules. Here is exactly what it says in the Detailed Rules:
    2] This method of chatting is extremely hard to understand.
    3] To the best of your ability, avoid using Chat Speak wherever possible. Misunderstandings can occur quickly when you use this type of grammar.
    4] You have a full keyboard at your disposal, and do not need to use shortcuts in order to chat - players appreciate good English, and proper chat provides a fun and easy way to understand you, especially for those that play and English isn't their native language.

    I'm mentioning this because some of the mods tend to get far too strict about this. It ends up making their jobs harder and makes players resent the mods. Some chatspeak is fine. Having a 'u' here or a '2' there. Even if it's every sentence they type, that's fine. It's when the entire sentence is chatspeak that it's a problem.

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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 6 2010 12:24pm
    When players are being harassed, or mobbed, or scams are happening, please ask the players to file abuse reports. When they just email support there is no chat, date or time saved and we can't do anything about it. I will try to research for the sub or pawneer order scams, but that's about all since those involve real money.

    Basically support is for technical problems, questions about the game, such as "Why am I banned." Or a new username... things like that. They may also ask for clarification on rules, or explanations if they don't understand the why. But anything that deals with rules being broken really needs to go in an abuse report so the chat, date and time are saved. If it wasn't caught I can go back a bit and search for it, but it does need to be rather timely... *laughing out loud!*

    Subscription scams can be in support mail, but an abuse report at the time is also super helpful (really needed.) It saves tons of time trying to figure out when what happened and with whom. :S

    When players email in and say Player1 stole from me, or ganged up on me or something, basically there isn't anything I can do about it. I don't know what server they were on, I don't know when this happened... What time zone are they in... If they copy/paste the chat it doesn't work as basically that's hearsay, I need the logged chat from the chat logs for proof. Players can always edit copy/pasting and frequently do. :P *laughing out loud!*

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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 14 2010 9:58pm
    Please remember to keep an eye on the content especially in global, but also in buddy... *laughing out loud!*

    No death, dying, stabbing, violence, eating others... Nothing that would upset a young child. I will give a for example, this is not really appropriate for global chat:

    Lets celebrate the death of a loonatic!
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    Dead woman walking -sirens go off-
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    I know it's in fun, but if a young child just logged on and saw that (not to mention her/his parents) it would not be great. :P *laughing out loud!*

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    REPLY: (by LorienSunStar) Apr 15 2010 3:59am
    Ok DP :) Yea i think a trend of this has started coming out, eg i was met with a random Hello Im a murderer on one server the other day and all the players seemed to think it was fine and i was being completely OTT asking them to stop.
    REPLY: (by Arowan) Apr 15 2010 7:55am
    yeah, i've been seeing a lot of this too...

    But i can't do much about it if it's in buddy or whatnot, since I can't see it. I usually just ask them to keep it out of global, and whatnot...
    REPLY: (by LorienSunStar) Apr 15 2010 8:11am
    I can see buddy but to be honest when Im on 4 to 7 servers i dont pay any attention to anything other than global because im too busy but ill keep an eye out for this now.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 15 2010 11:07am
    It's mainly global that is important. If you happen to see it in buddy, then you can ask them to change subject *nods* *laughing out loud!* But mostly important for global where everyone on the server can see. :)
    REPLY: (by Miranda) Apr 15 2010 1:25pm
    A lot of the players think that buddy chat is free rein. They can say whatever they want there. They should realize that is not the case.

    Talk to them and ask them to change the topic. Please don't forget to report players that you see chatting inappropriate in buddy. Some players remove people because of this. They think they are tattle-tales, but of course they then complain that people get away with the breaking the rules when they get in trouble down the road. So, as usual, we can't do something about what's not reported.
    A little off track, but it still basically fits.

    As usual though, if you don't see it, you can't punish. Ask the player that came to you to file an abuse report. If you don't think they will, feel free to do so yourself as a precaution.
    REPLY: (by LorienSunStar) Apr 15 2010 1:39pm
    Ok Miranda Ill keep an eye out for it now. May i ask this thing that is going round singing pants on the ground looking like a fool with your pants on the ground, do you guys think its ok? I have it said in buddy chat alot and i really dont like it but it is a song however even songs can be inappropriate, I just dont like it.
    REPLY: (by DarkFaerie) Apr 15 2010 1:49pm
    I think that would depend on the context of it and in which way they mean pants, they are under wear here in the UK and trousers over in the US. Its a bit rude either way.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 15 2010 2:07pm
    Pants need to stay on the player, not be on the ground regardless... :P *laughing out loud!*

    Then innuendo or referenced image of what are you wearing if your pants are on the ground is not really appropriate. :S

    Unless they are saying they got a new pair or jeans or riding trousers or something, pants aren't really appropriate. :)
    REPLY: (by Miranda) Apr 16 2010 8:40am
    I don't know if you guys know the reference for that song, but it's from a crazy older guy that sang it during his American Idol audition.

    The point of the song is actually making fun of those 'kids' that walk around with their pants hanging way off their bum. Many people think people that do this (sometimes the waist portion of the pants is halfway down their thighs or to their knees) look absolutely ridiculous. It's an issue that's gotten to the point of some places trying to put a law in place that can give out tickets for showing any undergarments in public (due to pants being too low).

    So, honestly, I have no problem with the song. If it helps the kids to realize that wearing their pants hanging off their bum is not cool, but dumb, than I'm up for it. I really don't think any of them are thinking of it in the inappropriate manner in which it would not be okay. :)
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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 23 2010 9:30pm
    I know the kids can be very frustrating, and harassing, but please remember to always be polite. As moderators we must be patient and courteous even if the player is rude, or we are tired.

    Many players don't read our profiles, or the rules of the game. So they are not going to know what is and is not polite, or ok... Many are children who are still learning, and don't know that they should not do something. To them, it's ok, to them it's not harassment. So, you can choose to basically ignore the player if you wish, but if you do choose to talk to them, then please make sure it is nice. :)

    Telling a player they are not being polite, or that they are being rude isn't really reaching them, it's just making them dislike you and feel threatened. So for example if a player asks about a horse that is not for sale, you can ignore the player, or if you do wish to respond then just say something like "I'm sorry, but that horse (or none of those horses) are for sale."

    We are moderators we are going to be asked about our horses, we are going to have random PM's like crazy! It's the green star that attracts players like flypaper *nods* :D

    I either ignore the pm's or have an autoreply stating that I'm busy with questing (or whatever) and not chatting, then ignore the pm's. *laughing out loud!* Or I will just say "sorry, not chatting right now, busy working" then ignore.

    It doesn't take long to say "sorry not for sale." :)

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    REPLY: (by RockPile) May 27 2010 2:43pm
    Thanks for the reminder, DP = )

    I agree, by the way. It's better to be polite.

    I've always tried to 'lead by example,' and it usually works.

    As always, thanks for letting me help = )

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    REPLY: (by LorienSunStar) May 28 2010 7:17am
    Thanks DP :) I always try my best, I generally always try to answer every PM even though it takes a while sometimes if im on multiple servers. :) We are probably older than the majority of players we talk to so should be able to be more mature than them :D Thanks for the reminder :) Lorien
    REPLY: (by SwiftPony) Jun 7 2010 10:39pm
    Simple :D C: :) no matter the situation can work wonders, those little things.. Even when giving warnings, I'm always sure to tack on a thank you and a :D. They're not going to continue misbehaving if you talk to them completely nicely, and give them absolutely nothing to sass at. :D :D :D
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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 30 2010 12:48pm
    Please remember to not gossip or add to gossip. If a player reports something to you, that player must remain anonymous. Please do not ever share that identity except with another moderator or admin.

    Also watch for the player "gossip" just because Player 1 says that Player 2 said something, doesn't mean Player 2 did. Many players "report" others to become a moderators "pet" or to feel important. If you didn't see something, then it didn't happen, please do not "act" upon something you did not see in chat.

    If it bothered a player then that player can file an abuse report. If you feel it's important that the chat be saved you may file an abuse report on the player and ask us to review chat for ___ . Otherwise, please do not get involved as you didn't see the chat so it's hearsay or gossip.

    When a player tells me that RuleBreaker broke a rule and said 'such and such,' I tell the player to please file an abuse report. Since I didn't see it I can't do anything about it.

    If someone tells me that RuleBreaker has a bad profile I thank the player: "Thanks, I'll check it out." Or something like that. If it's correct, then I ask RuleBreaker to please remove that bad part, but I Do Not tell them the name of the player who "reported" them as that is confidential. I might say someone brought it to my attention, but that is absolutely all. Usually I don't even say that, I just say I was looking at profiles, or I was looking at your horses...

    We must Not have favorites or at least show favoritism to players, nor can we encourage or contribute to player rivalry or gossip.

    And please also remember that whatever happens in this moderator forum, stays here. We don't discuss these topics or issues with others. :)

    Ok, gets off soap box now and goes back to workie. :)
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    REPLY: (by LorienSunStar) Jun 30 2010 1:32pm
    Ok DP :) I also think its really important not to copy and paste things from mod chat into buddy chat plus conversations you have with players because if the muted player or the offending player hears of it it doesnt look good. Just throwing that out :)
    REPLY: (by Arowan) Jun 30 2010 2:38pm
    I've also learned from... oopsies... that it's a good idea to keep your regular chat toggle on moderator chat at all times, and just do /PlayerName or /Other Chat for your other messages. Nothing like a mis-chat to go into global when you least want it to *winces at memories*
    REPLY: (by LorienSunStar) Jul 1 2010 2:43am
    oh my gosh thats happened to me too Aro, sooo embarrassing. I use /playername etc aswell now :) and hope it never happens again *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by SuperBetta) Jul 1 2010 3:09pm
    oh aro, i do that too. always have since i saw a /mod message go into global once. luckily it was on white server and was nothing bad. but just in case mine stays set on mod at all times. ^.^
    REPLY: (by Arowan) Jul 2 2010 11:16am
    xD
    of course, mine was on pinto just after a big thing got cleared up... which thankfully, went mostly unnoticed, but still.. *winces some more*
    REPLY: (by RockPile) Jul 4 2010 4:39am
    Thanks for the reminder, DP = )

    You can mount your 'soap box' anytime *laughing out loud!*

    As always, Thanks for letting me help!
    REPLY: (by NightMare) Jul 4 2010 10:46am
    I always let DP give the "lectures" she is so diplomatic. I am now offering to be her campaign manager if she decides to run for any political office. Hmm a job at the U.N. would be right for her also :)
    REPLY: (by LadyNavigator) Jul 4 2010 6:29pm
    Thanks all, Im not alone in the "chat box" oopses! Im feling better already. :)
    REPLY: (by ChaosGypsy) Jul 6 2010 9:39am
    nope you are not alone... I have simply told the kids rather then w/c I am set to Perma-fail ;) this sets every one to perma-giggle and breaks the tension and usually the drama that was going on over whatever issue I was dealing with *rolling on floor laughing!*
    REPLY: (by AnnieOakley) Jul 7 2010 10:20pm
    Ialways keep my chat set to 'Mod'. that way if something slips, none of the kiddies see it.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Clarification on quitting and giving things away
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 6 2010 11:10am
    Players may give away or sell their stuff if they wish to when quitting. It's their account and they may give everything away if they want to so.

    If they do give things away then they can't get their account deleted, it will have to time out and auto-delete in 62 days. So if you want to remind them of that great. But if they wish to give all away it's ok. They may.

    Of course they should use ads chat *laughing out loud!* and if they want to post this in their profiles then tell players to look at their profile, then again it should be in ads chat. :)

    Many players are only quitting a specific server. They don't plan on returning and don't want their horses to just auto-delete so they give them away. Some are quitting the game and don't care if their account is deleted or if it's left to auto-delete.

    For those few who want to cheat, they can't really as when they ask for their account to be deleted if they have given/traded stuff off of it, then the deletion is denied. If they have moved things from their old account to their new account, then they lose them permanently when the "new" account ends up being deleted as a multiple account. So they don't win.

    If they want a new account then that is exactly what they get, a brand new account with nothing and they must earn what they get just like any other new player. If they want to keep their horses, etc. then they must keep their current account. :)

    Hope that makes things a bit clearer. :)
    REPLY: (by SwiftPony) Jul 6 2010 11:12am
    Haha, oops. I'm glad this clarification was made. (: I was a bit..confused. The detailed rules made it sound differently. Thanks DP!
    REPLY: (by LorienSunStar) Jul 6 2010 11:18am
    Yes i didnt realise this either DP so thanks :D
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Jul 6 2010 12:14pm
    Wait...this goes against what we were told some time back that ALL items/money/horses should stay in the account when someone quits. In fact, what you're saying is in direct contention with the rules about quitting:

    Quitting/Starting Over
    1] You may quit playing at anytime. Your account will auto-delete after 62 days of inactivity, or 62 days of inactivity after your subscription expires.
    2] When you quit, do not give away any horses, money or items. Should you decide to play again with a new account you could get these things back and that would be cheating.
    3] If you feel the need to start over, your account may be deleted after giving sufficient proof that you are the account owner.
    4] To have your account deleted so that you can start over, contact support from the email address you used to create your account. Again, do not trade anything off your account. Do not create a new account until we tell you that you may.


    You're saying that they can give away things if they want to when quitting, but #2 under the detailed rules about quitting specifically says otherwise.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 6 2010 2:24pm
    Yes Orb, but as it is their account... if they want to have it time out and auto-delete then they may give stuff away. There really isn't any way to prevent them from doing this. However, if they want their account to be deleted by us, then everything Must stay on their account and then be deleted with the account.

    It's kind of confusing, but we just can't stop them from giving things way, so sort of useless to try. *laughing out loud!* :S And for some of them, they are doing just that, giving away things they will no longer use as they are switching servers. So not asking for an account to be deleted.

    Basically that is for having an account deleted so they may start over with a new account. To do that everything must stay on the account. If they don't care about that, then they may give stuff away. It's up to them. I always check the logs (evil grin) so they can lie but they can't hide! :D
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Quick question about profiles
    REPLY: (by SuperBetta) Jul 6 2010 1:07pm
    if we pm someone that something in their profile needs changed and they just don't respond but yet after 10 minutes haven't idled out, do you just remove the profile or trying PMing until they answer?


    i did get ahold of them the second PM, but for future reference?


    I guess my question is how long should you wait before just removing the profile if they are blatantly ignoring you?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 6 2010 2:28pm
    I will ask a player to change their profile, leave it up so I can remove it if they suddenly log off... I usually give them 5 minutes unless I think they are in a competition or something, then I give longer. Then if they don't reply to me and log off, or if they haven't removed it then I remove it.

    Basically they are supposed to know the rules and not even have inappropriate stuff on their profiles. I do like to ask them to remove it, and explain why as it's nicer and hopefully if they understand they won't put it right back up. *laughing out loud!*

    But if they choose to ignore them I remove. I usually give the 5 minutes, that's plenty long enough to delete something. If they need longer they can ask for a few extra minutes. I do tell them after the removal request that they have 5 minutes.
    REPLY: (by SuperBetta) Jul 6 2010 4:23pm
    okay thanks :D
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: What all goes in Ads Chat :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 12 2010 9:17am
    There seems to be a bit of confusion as to what all belongs in ads chat, so I thought I would put some things here, and if anyone has any questions, Miranda, NightMare or I can answer. :)

    Goes in Ads Chat:
    Any advertisement for buying, selling, trading, clubs, contests, scavenger hunts (the advertising part,) paying for quest help or any type of ad where a player will pay for something.

    Exception: In front of Earton Bank or at the crossroads, if players congregate to buy and sell horses, they may use chat here for advertising, players can mute chat here or move on if they don't wish to see it. Also, at Auction, players may use chat here.

    Does not need to be in ads chat unless they wish to post it more often than every 5 minutes. May be in ads, but doesn't have to be:

    Asking for buddies, quest help, chatting - unless the topic is not appropriate for this game, or it's totally flooding the server and others are complaining. I usually give them about 5 minutes to flood then ask them to take it to Chat Here, Buddy or PM. If the chatting is only interesting to a few players then they need to move it out of global as well. Chatting is fine, as long as the topic is family friendly, mods can become involved in the chat if they wish, or they may stay out of it.

    I'm sure I have left out quite a few things, I've only had 1 cup of coffee... so please post any questions you have! :) *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by RockPile) Aug 12 2010 8:14pm
    That sounds like a pretty complete list, DP.

    When players are looking for quest help or asking to be shown where something is and offer to pay, I respond: When you offer to pay, it becomes an ad, and belongs In Ads Chat please.

    It reminds players to 1) use Ads Chat, and 2) think about what they're saying. Because it's super annoying to be muted when you're trying to get quest help or make a trade. *laughing out loud!*

    As always, Thanks for letting me help = )
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Aug 12 2010 9:59pm
    What about when players are trying to encourage others to do the competition arenas? Most players on Palomino (myself included) use ads, but to my knowledge, that's not necessary.
    REPLY: (by RockPile) Aug 12 2010 11:03pm
    As I understand it, comp arena requests don't have to be in Ads Chat... Unless... you offer something for entering. Like paying for their entry, or giving a prize for winning, etc... = )
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 13 2010 8:06am
    Competitions may go in global. However they may not mention it more than once every 5 minutes if they wish to use global. *laughing out loud!*

    If they are paying for others to enter the competition then it needs to be in ads chat.
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    REPLY: (by Snuffleupagus) Sep 6 2010 10:00pm
    Okej, so I have heard of this lately and it has probably occured for awhile on different servers too.

    There are stories of players who have x number of violations and when they get flagged/feel they are reported, they start moving their money/horses/items around in case they are banned. You know, looking for holding places until they can come back. Luckily, in these cases that I know, the player has not been banned and they take their items back. I don't know if they sense short bans or long bans but still, a ban. Is the "no giving things away when quitting" rule applicable to these cases? I know they are not quitting in that sense and at the time, we can't prove they are being banned but it is just suspicious. Send a reminder? Send an abuse report?
    REPLY: (by Snuffleupagus) Sep 6 2010 10:06pm
    Blah, stupid me. I forgot to add the rhetoric that in the case these players have a perma ban or ban long enough that their account expires, they can go to their holders and poof!, have their top horses, money and items back. Maybe this didn't need to be added... I think you all understand.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 6 2010 10:18pm
    It's a hard one. If they are quitting, they may give away their things, but... if they do then we will not delete their account. So they won't be able to create another account and return. They will have to stay off the game until their account times out or at least wait for 62 days without trading off of their account before we will delete the account.

    If a banned player returns, we ban the account and that second account will be deleted. So they don't win.

    What usually happens in all their trying to keep their horses... is they permanently lose them. The ban is temp, they have someone else hold their horses then either that person gets rid of the horses, or... they are moved to a cheat/multiple account then deleted.

    Sad, but you just can't get the kids to read and follow the rules. :(
    REPLY: (by Snuffleupagus) Sep 6 2010 10:35pm
    Okej, thanks for the reply and explanation.

    You know, at this point I wish I could implant it in all brains that once horses/money/items leave your account, you have no control what happens to them. Try so hard for that unfair advantage but end up losing it in the end.

    (Kind of applies to the complaints of horses going out for training that end up on banned accounts too...)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 7 2010 8:29am
    Yep. If we could just get them to read... *sigh*

    Then again they stand in front of the Library and spend 15 minutes spamming global for someone to tell them where Cara Cook is because they are "too lazy to look for her." Quoted from the player... -_- *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by Snuffleupagus) Dec 26 2010 8:08pm
    Okej, this has come up again. I don't know if this is because I am stuffed with holiday food or haven't spoken in English for 48 hours but I'm confused...

    A player on Cremello says they have been banned but they are still playing. In the meantime, they are giving their horses for safe keeping to MULTIPLE players I can't keep track.

    I am under the impression that if a player is online and then banned, NightMare pops in, does the job, and the player is banned. This player is saying they were "banned a few hours ago", and by keeping online, the ban is not in effect. This makes no sense to me. The player is ShadowFilly.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 26 2010 8:14pm
    ugh... grrr... *laughing out loud!* when I banned her she was not on. Probably was logging on at the time of the ban. She is gone now. :P
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    REPLY: (by Continuum) Dec 10 2010 3:37pm
    I've seen a lot of people with other languages on their profiles. I double checked the detailed rules and it says horse names, but no profiles.

    Most of what I've seen is song lyrics--is this okay, provided they also provide a translation on their profile?

    I think it's a fuzzy line saying you can use horse names of different languages with translations, but not on their profiles or yours. I wanted a confirmation before I took any action either way.
    REPLY: (by LorienSunStar) Dec 10 2010 3:54pm
    I believe as long as they have the translation its allowed :)
    REPLY: (by Miranda) Dec 12 2010 12:00pm
    The translation needs to be in there somewhere. Right after is foreign language, or at the end, wherever is fine so long as it's there.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Removing Profiles
    REPLY: (by Continuum) Dec 11 2010 4:28pm
    I had a profile reported to me earlier, that had racial content and cursing (though misspelled much like chatspeak).

    I know it was extreme to remove it without asking player to remove---but I don't feel I should have to ask a player to remove racial slurs and swearing. They very much know that is against the rules. I was more afraid of other people seeing it since several had reported it to me.

    If it's that bad, is it okay to do what I did? Or should I really have asked her nicely to remove her racial content and cursing?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 11 2010 6:15pm
    That's fine. When a profile is extremely inappropriate, or if pretty much the entire profile is nasty, go ahead and remove. If it's easy to discuss it with the player, then great, otherwise get it off. *laughing out loud!*

    When there is only 1 sentence, or a small part that is not appropriate, but not totally bad it's nice to give the player a chance to remove it. Especially if they have lots on their profile that is ok.

    Just remember, this is a family game and young children and their parents do play. We are a bit more lenient with profiles than global, since players actually have to go look at it. However if it's severely breaking the rules, such as racism, adult explicit content or totally bad language then it needs to go immediately.
    REPLY: (by Continuum) Dec 11 2010 8:48pm
    Yeah, that's what I figured, I just didn't want to overreact. She was making comments about race, avoiding filter to swear.... and it was brought to my attention by players on the server...so I knew people were looking at it.
    REPLY: (by BoneGirl) Dec 12 2010 6:04pm
    Nickname(s) Bella
    Bells
    Vampire girl
    Species Human (Twilight - Book 2 of Breaking Dawn)
    Vampire (Book 3 of Breaking Dawn)Gender Female Age 17 (Twilight) 18 (New Moon, Eclipse, and Breaking Dawn)Date of birth September 13, 1987
    Date of death September 10, 2006 (as a human)Family Charlie Swan (father)
    Rene Dwyer (mother)
    Phil Dwyer (stepfather) Carlisle Cullen (father-in-law) Esme Cullen (mother-in-law) Alice Cullen (sister-in-law) Rosalie Hale (sister-in-law) Emmett Cullen (brother-in-law) Jasper Hale (brother-in-law) Spouse(s) Edward Cullen
    Children Renesmee Carlie Cullen


    I was wondering if I should ask the person to take down this profile?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 12 2010 6:23pm
    That's ok. She isn't graphic or explicit with the violence angle. And it's a book and book characters she is discussing. Saying Date of death isn't great but she does make it clear it's a books character, and she doesn't state how the death occurred. :)
    REPLY: (by BoneGirl) Dec 12 2010 8:07pm
    Ok thanks.
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    REPLY: (by TheCaptain) Dec 30 2010 1:34pm
    I'm sure i've read it somewhere before, but I can't for the life of me find the thread anymore...

    What is it we lovely mods are to do about inappropriateness in the art rooms? Only a minor issue today, a player writing 'poo' on the art boards, but I simply can't remember what I was supposed to do, so I just cleared it...
    REPLY: (by LorienSunStar) Dec 30 2010 2:31pm
    You can take a screen shot of it and send it to admin. Sometimes if its just minor I send them to prison isle or give a quick 5 minute mute.
    REPLY: (by Azkadellia) Dec 30 2010 8:23pm
    I think for just minor things warn them and erase it. If its something major, screen shot it and send it in then clear.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 30 2010 8:35pm
    Yep. If it's not all that bad, just remind about behavior which includes in the art rooms. If it's bad please take a screen shot and send it to support, then violations can be assigned.

    For the mild one, a short mute can work also. But if it's nasty please do try for the screen shot. :)
    REPLY: (by TheCaptain) Dec 31 2010 5:15am
    Thanks for clearing it up. It was only a little word so it wasn't a big issue, but a player was getting antsy about it. Perhaps i'll use prison next time.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 31 2010 8:05am
    Reminder: When you send a player to prison it does not file an abuse report, so no violations will be given. Basically it just disrupts whatever they were doing and they have to play the mini-game to get off, so a bit time consuming. *laughing out loud!* Good for minor problems that don't need violations. :)

    Rules isle does file an abuse report, should basically only be used once or twice for the same player. There are only I believe 4 sets of questions, and the idea is to get them to read the rules to get off. :S So once they have read those 4 sets of questions then they know those specific answers, doesn't mean they know answers to other things. *laughing out loud!*
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    REPLY: (by Miranda) Feb 21 2011 1:14am
    This is pretty long, but I feel it's a really good example of why it's important to sometimes take time to talk to and listen to 'problem' players.
    I asked ChaosGypsy's permission to post this.
    To start, I do want to say that I do not think muting someone under the circumstances she did is normally a good idea. It often causes more problems than it helps. In this case, it actually worked out to help everything, but I believe it only did because she took the time to chat with the player quite a bit.

    Take notice of how this started. ChaosGypsy was having a lot of problems with this player and the player did not like her at all. It ended with her actually asking to be buddies. :)

    C-Feb20 18:28:29 ChaosGypsy(G): No Personal Info
    C-Feb20 18:28:35 ChaosGypsy(G): you know the rules
    C-Feb20 18:28:44 ChaosGypsy(G): DONT push them -.-
    C-Feb20 18:28:57 Player($): shut it Chaos
    I-Feb20 18:29:05 Player Player Has clicked QUIT button
    SER-Feb20 18:52:05pm Player Successfully Logged In.
    ADM-Feb20 18:57:39 ADMIN (ChaosGypsy) COMMAND: [MUTE Player 60 ]
    C-Feb20 18:59:52 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|your muted 60 min for causing drama in global and for dodging a mute next time stay out of things that do not concern you
    C-Feb20 19:00:43 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|im not affraid u know
    C-Feb20 19:01:11 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|i did not mute you to scare you
    C-Feb20 19:01:38 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|im not scared to soeak my mind either
    C-Feb20 19:01:42 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|i muted you because you dodges a mute for causing drama in global chats and for being rude in global chats
    C-Feb20 19:01:56 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|but its my opinion
    C-Feb20 19:01:59 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|there are rules everyone on hi has to follow
    C-Feb20 19:02:28 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|yes thats fine but you cannot speak them like that you must follow the same rules as everyuone else
    C-Feb20 19:02:49 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|the entire game has to follow rules
    C-Feb20 19:03:03 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|yes and isnt one being nice to others? well you are not always nice to everyone.......and by the entire game taht means u too
    C-Feb20 19:03:12 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|they are all written out in detail for all the players to read and to follow
    C-Feb20 19:03:23 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|including you?
    C-Feb20 19:03:42 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|yes it does but when i am talking to someone else that is between them and I not you and them and i
    C-Feb20 19:04:07 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|well can i make a suggestion then?
    C-Feb20 19:04:26 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|all you do is get yourself into trouble by getting involved
    C-Feb20 19:04:37 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|but can i make asuggestion?
    C-Feb20 19:04:39 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|I send out global warning
    C-Feb20 19:04:42 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|and yes please do
    C-Feb20 19:07:18 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|ok well i think that things such as a punishment in global shouldnt happen because then it is not private and while it does not involve evryonelse its not private either so...even though its more work...u should just om them instead and things like this wont happen...and....when mods arent on there are so many other people doing so much worse and one of the rules is not being a mini mod and yet people still do all im saying is if people want things private make them private
    C-Feb20 19:08:11 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|can i ask you something?
    C-Feb20 19:08:15 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|yes
    C-Feb20 19:09:08 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|did you ever stop and think that maybe we have tried talking to a person several times in private and they ignored us.... so we have HAD to go into global to get their attention....
    C-Feb20 19:09:21 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|sometimes because they are new and they dont know the chats
    C-Feb20 19:09:41 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|how can they ignore you? you are a mod
    C-Feb20 19:09:43 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|and sometimes because they just dont care....
    C-Feb20 19:10:08 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|they just decide to ignore us they think its funny to make drama in global...
    C-Feb20 19:10:20 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|thats why sometimes we have to mute for it....
    C-Feb20 19:10:32 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|if it were up to me....
    C-Feb20 19:10:37 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|yes
    C-Feb20 19:10:38 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|?
    C-Feb20 19:10:42 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|i wouldnt ever mute....
    C-Feb20 19:10:48 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|oh
    C-Feb20 19:10:58 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|its a pain i would much rather hunt about for horses *laughing out loud!*
    C-Feb20 19:11:16 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|haha yeah that would be a lot better
    C-Feb20 19:11:27 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|but you are right you know
    C-Feb20 19:11:32 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|i am here because i love playing the game I adore HI
    C-Feb20 19:11:57 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|people should follow the rules and i am sorry for casuing trouble
    C-Feb20 19:12:02 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|i love to jump even if i am the games worst jumper
    C-Feb20 19:12:08 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|haha
    C-Feb20 19:12:14 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|i used to show horses
    C-Feb20 19:12:20 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|in 4-H
    C-Feb20 19:12:44 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|its ok I am gonna lift your mkute because i think now you know where i am coming from
    C-Feb20 19:12:52 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|thank you
    C-Feb20 19:12:53 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|i was a 4-H leader *laughing out loud!*
    C-Feb20 19:13:01 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|gimme a sec
    C-Feb20 19:13:05 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|oh wow thats cool
    ADM-Feb20 19:14:10 ADMIN (ChaosGypsy) COMMAND: [UNMUTE Player ]
    C-Feb20 19:14:22 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|thank you
    C-Feb20 19:14:24 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|there you go =)
    C-Feb20 19:14:29 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|you're welcome
    C-Feb20 19:14:29 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|thank you so much
    C-Feb20 19:14:44 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|so can you tell me a littl emore about mods?
    C-Feb20 19:14:54 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|stay out of trouble and when i go into global... there is usually a reason for it ;)
    C-Feb20 19:15:07 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|haha ok
    C-Feb20 19:15:37 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|we are just like you we play because we love it and because we want it safe for everyone.. and well we just got picked =)
    C-Feb20 19:15:56 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|and i will try to sound more friendly ok ;)
    C-Feb20 19:16:24 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|thats sounds great!
    C-Feb20 19:16:35 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|i really am sorry!
    C-Feb20 19:16:43 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|so am i =)
    C-Feb20 19:16:54 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|i just....mods seem different.....
    C-Feb20 19:17:13 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|like when you are not talking to them like we are
    C-Feb20 19:17:23 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|were not really *laughing out loud!* just horse crazed players like everyone else
    C-Feb20 19:17:26 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|hehehe
    C-Feb20 19:17:39 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|haha cool so how did you get picked??
    C-Feb20 19:17:52 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|they just asked me one day =)
    C-Feb20 19:18:17 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|wow you probably have to not have any Violations huh?
    C-Feb20 19:18:30 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|yep had my share *laughing out loud!*
    C-Feb20 19:18:41 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|oh really?? *laughing out loud!*
    C-Feb20 19:19:22 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|yep i am a regular player just like everyone else other then trying to make sure the games safe for everyone =)
    C-Feb20 19:19:42 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|yeah...do you get violations when your a md?
    C-Feb20 19:19:45 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|mod*
    C-Feb20 19:19:54 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|yep
    C-Feb20 19:20:00 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|wow
    C-Feb20 19:20:26 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|i think you are really amazing Chaos
    C-Feb20 19:21:21 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|thanks =)
    C-Feb20 19:21:25 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|i really love your profile too!
    C-Feb20 19:21:38 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|especially the last parts :)
    C-Feb20 19:21:42 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|lkol its pretty plain *laughing out loud!*
    C-Feb20 19:21:51 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|but its funny!
    C-Feb20 19:21:59 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|thanks
    C-Feb20 19:22:04 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|sure
    C-Feb20 19:24:02 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|oh one more question?
    C-Feb20 19:24:05 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|sorry
    C-Feb20 19:24:07 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|sure
    C-Feb20 19:24:18 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|do u memorize all the rules?
    C-Feb20 19:24:48 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|*laughing out loud!* i tried to but I keep them up in a window at all times when i am on =)
    C-Feb20 19:25:51 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|cool....oh and...sorry.....do people who like to ........um.....butter you up..there we go....do they annoy you??
    C-Feb20 19:26:19 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|nah i try to not get annoyed *laughing out loud!* its bad for ya *laughing out loud!*
    C-Feb20 19:27:09 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|haha thanks you are so much different than i thought you would be
    C-Feb20 19:27:24 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|thanks =)
    C-Feb20 19:27:34 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|how many buddies do you have?
    C-Feb20 19:28:22 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|oh not too many I dont add as i am not on alot right now *laughing out loud!*
    C-Feb20 19:28:59 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|oh cool ...i feel kinda weird asking I don't know why though do u wanna be my bud?
    C-Feb20 19:29:21 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|when i come back full time sure =)
    C-Feb20 19:29:30 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|will be about 2-3 weeks *laughing out loud!*
    C-Feb20 19:29:40 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|i am still unpacking and stuff *laughing out loud!*
    C-Feb20 19:29:41 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|why arent you on full time?
    C-Feb20 19:29:45 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|oh you moved!
    C-Feb20 19:29:48 ChaosGypsy(P): Player|just moved *laughing out loud!*
    C-Feb20 19:29:50 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|i see!
    C-Feb20 19:29:53 Player(P): ChaosGypsy|haha!
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Feb 21 2011 7:40am
    Wow that is soo encouraging and can I say well done Chaos. It just shows that even though they can be trouble to begin with underneath they can be so nice, its just taking the time to talk to them I guess. Amazing Im so glad you shared this Miranda, thank you.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 21 2011 8:01am
    !!- Way To Go -!! Romi! :)

    {hugs}
    REPLY: (by RockPile) Feb 21 2011 9:02am
    Nicely done. I think a lot of players simply want to chat with someone when they're upset about... anything, really. Maybe at that moment, their life is in chaos (no pun intended) and need someone to just listen. I've drawn players into PM chat before, when they say something inflammatory in global, because they just need someone to listen. And I'm usually pretty good at listening. = )

    I also think players appreciate when mods... Pull back the curtain, so to speak. Let them understand what mods do, and how we think. I think we (mods) *all* want HI to be a safe, fun experience for *everyone* and players don't always see that bigger picture.

    Again, well done. And thanks Miranda and Chaos for sharing = )
    REPLY: (by Naginata) Feb 21 2011 9:14am
    Great job, Chaos! =)
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Feb 21 2011 10:29am
    Well done, Romi!
    REPLY: (by ChaosGypsy) Feb 21 2011 3:01pm
    thanks Guys... I just figure the kids today that are on the net pretty much 24/7 or everyday after school and after dinner and such ate what a decade ago were called the Latch key kids... they are now the "keyboard Kids"... they just need to know someones out there and that they are safe... and HI needs to be that "safe place" and we are those people that are out there for them when they are stuck at home waiting for parents to get off work and putting up with older siblings that are *babysitting* *laughing out loud!* 99% of the time I find this is the major issue *laughing out loud!* so I rain them in and listen and let them know hey someones out there and we care even if its caring enough to say NO yo cannot do that you too have to behave... sometimes that means even more... I knwo to my own herd of kids that meant even more to them growing up *laughing out loud!* that I took the time to tell then WHOA there is no way thats gonna fly in my house... these kids are not that different from my own *laughing out loud!* just a bit further away but just as dear to me and yes they do at times make my hair go just a grey *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Feb 21 2011 7:32pm
    Very nice Chaos.. and I totally relate and agree with the keyboard kids.. I've noticed sometimes they don't have parents at home to remind them that their life/actions are important and that our caring even just over the net means the world to them. Adding grey hairs here with a few online kids at a time...
    Thank you so much Miranda for sharing also
    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Feb 21 2011 10:08pm
    Very NICE Chaos. I'm a ingurgitateer for a happy Ending :)
    I think we all do a Great job. Horse Ise is a VERY safe site. And I would like to Thank ALL the mods who are a part of making that happen :)

    We can all comb our grey hair together....But While we do....We will know our Players are SAFE!!!!!

    Hats off to ALL <3
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Horse Isle Playerlist for Desktop = iGoogle
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 2 2011 1:47pm
    This is just for info.

    At the bottom of the account page on each server there is a button link. If you have a gmail account, you can add each server. Then if you bring up iGoogle you will have all the servers with a list of all players on that server as well as the moderator if there is one, or an administrator.

    It's an easy way to find a specific player or another moderator to help you out if needed. Without the pain of having to go to all the servers and search. *laughing out loud!* :)
    REPLY: (by Continuum) Mar 2 2011 3:04pm
    If only I had real internet I could actually download these cool things. Thanks for update...I saw a post in forums somewhere asking if there was a way to tell where the mods were....
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 2 2011 3:11pm
    Oh, I'll go looking for that :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 2 2011 3:17pm
    Couldn't find the threat, but I made one in General, so if they want to use it they can. :)
    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Mar 2 2011 6:18pm
    DP..I JUST learned of this AMAZING feature yestrday rom another mod. I think its funny its in forum now :) Just thought i would share :)
    REPLY: (by ThisMagicMoment) Mar 3 2011 9:34am
    -runs to make gmail account-
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Mar 3 2011 11:14am
    Neat! Thanks DP!
    REPLY: (by ThisMagicMoment) Mar 4 2011 6:51am
    Just got all the servers loaded onto my new gmail account iGoogle. Highly recommend it! It will come in serious handy when I need another mod to help me, I am sure!
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Mar 4 2011 11:38am
    Thank you for sharing the info!! I went right away on the 2nd and set up all the servers to my igoogle. This should come in handy when we need to find another mod :) What an awesome addition.. THANKS
    REPLY: (by SnappyDoodle) Mar 5 2011 11:04am
    I tried doing this but I'm not familiar enough with the igoogle page to set this up. Couldn't find the servers I added. Too much junk on the igoogle page. Guess this ole brain is just not techy enough to figure it out. Hope it works for others though cuz it sounds like a great idea. :-) Thanks for posting it.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 5 2011 12:20pm
    You can move the "boxes" around by using the drop down box or arrow box. Play around with it a bit. It takes getting used to. *laughing out loud!* :)

    You can also remove things and add in other things. Just takes a bit to figure it all out. :)
    REPLY: (by SnappyDoodle) Mar 5 2011 6:11pm
    Thanks Desert Paint. I finally figured it out! I was beginning to wonder..... I've got it set up now and even have a pet hamster (gadget) on my page to watch and feed.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 5 2011 7:18pm
    *laughing out loud!* Yay! :)
    REPLY: (by Naginata) Mar 8 2011 3:57am
    *laughing out loud!*, and I thought I was being sort of creepy. I added two of them several months ago, and it made me feel like a stalker of the servers... hehe
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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 5 2011 12:16pm
    Just to clarify :)

    Fun goofy things such as food fights are ok. If they start sacrificing, or worshiping, or using rocks or trees that's not too ok.... but throwing food around is fine. *laughing out loud!*

    They can flood global for a bit it's ok. :)
    If it goes over 5 minutes or so and others are complaining, you can ask that at this point it be moved to Chat Here or Buddy as it's beginning to take over Global. But if no other person is complaining or trying to say something in Global, then it's fine. They can play around and have fun. :)

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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 12 2011 11:30am
    Most of you probably already know this, but I thought I would post it anyway. *laughing out loud!* :)

    Q: How do I change my name?
    A: Email support from the email you used when you singed up to the game. (We can help if you forgot it.) Give us 3 or 4 names to choose from. Link at the bottom of the games web page.

    Q: I have the wrong gender, how do I change it?
    A: Email support from the email you used when you signed up to the game and ask for a gender change, Miranda can do that. Link at the bottom of the games web page.

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    A: If you used PayPal credit card or account please contact support (again from the email used to create the account) and tell us when you did this. Please include copy of PayPal receipt. If you used e-Check it takes 3 to 10 days occasionally a bit longer, so if it's been that long, then please contact support. If it's check, money order or cash, that can take 5 to 14 days, so please be patient. If it's been that long or longer, please contact support, include username, and player ID, and amount sent and when it was mailed.

    Q: I was scammed, what do I do?
    A: Please file an abuse report on the player. If it did not happen today, please give the approximate date, makes it easier.

    Q: PlayerA was mean to me, and stole ___what do I do?
    A: Please file an abuse report on the player.

    Q: I was hacked what do I do?
    A: You can file an abuse report if you think you might know who did it, please give that players name in the report, otherwise you can file it on yourself. Hacking is a serious allegation, so please be sure you were indeed hacked, and not that you logged onto the wrong server, or forgot you sold something.

    Q: I got violations what are they? What are they for?
    A: You may contact support from the email you used when you signed up to the game and request an explanation for violation points.

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    Any other questions you get and aren't sure what to do with? *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 12 2011 4:53pm
    Q: Can I create another account on another server?
    A: Yes you may play on any or all servers as long as you use the same username/account. If you create another name/account then you have multiple accounts which is against the rules.
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    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Mar 23 2011 1:07pm
    Ok, WHAT is considered role playing. I know they get into the whole "warrior cats" thing (what ever that is *laughing out loud!*) But I have noticed some conversations in global where the act as if they are doing things to each other. Like -puts so and so in a red shirt and leads around global- (BAD example, I know)

    ANyway when they start going on about these stories and then other players get involved....how far do we let it go before asking them to maybe move it to buds...
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 23 2011 1:36pm
    If the RP is harmless (follows game rules) and it involves all of global/server it's ok for a bit. Maybe 5 to 10 or 15 minutes if ok with others. For a fun thing, then it will probably die down, or can be asked to move to chat here or something.

    Sometimes they like to just goof around on the server. Ok. As long as the content is ok for the game. Sometimes one needs to pop in occasionally and either steer it in a different direction or remind them that the content is heading into bad territory or something. :S

    I usually try to get it to end in at least 15 minutes, or move to another chat. Or, if someone is posting "enough" or something then it's not appreciated by others thus needs to leave global.

    Hope that makes sense. :S *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Mar 23 2011 2:18pm
    Yeah it does :) If a bunch of players are joining in and global is moving quite fast....should a move be asked for? I was on one server that the "playing around" got a bit quick and I missed a few questions from a player. Who then pm'ed me and asked if I were ignoring them :(

    Unfortunately sometimes when asking for them to move it to bud or chat here...they become upset. Then we have quite a few mouth offs. Sigh.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 23 2011 3:36pm
    If the player count is high, and global is busy with players asking questions, then the RP should not take place in Global. If global is quite, then it's ok.
    REPLY: (by Miranda) Mar 23 2011 10:55pm
    For the most part, if it is following the rules, let it be. If players are annoyed or getting upset, ask those playing in global to take it somewhere else. I don't see any reason to put a stop to it unless others are getting upset by it or it is getting inappropriate

    There are a number of players on, so players asking questions should eventually be noticed by someone if not the moderator. Players following the rules but taking up global will get upset if asked to take it somewhere else since they aren't actually breaking any rules.

    Unless there starts to be a high incidence of players getting upset that their valid questions aren't being answered, I'll have to say to even be more lenient about it than DP is saying. Let them have their fun. Those asking questions will either figure it out, get someone's attention or PM someone. Especially at this point in the game, since there are generally smaller numbers on the servers, I think it should be less of a problem.
    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Mar 24 2011 9:55am
    Ok Miranda, Thanks for the clarification. For the most part it IS harmless. But I wanted to be sure :) I always like to be SURE, *laughing out loud!* That is why i ALWAYS bother DP with all my questions :) And she is always there when I need her. <3 Thanks again to you both :)
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    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Mar 25 2011 10:34am
    A few players were Fish slapping each other in global. i pmed then and reminded them that slapping was a bit violent and please not do so in gloabl. A few of the players then told me that Admin has said that "fish slapping" was ok. Sooo i asked them to please refrain from doing so until I asked about it. they were VERY compliant. So, would just like to know if fish slapping each other is indeed allowed in global.

    Apparently there is a fish slap social on HI2 (which I dont play so I wouldnt know, *laughing out loud!*) So they pretty much figured it is ok for HI1.
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Mar 25 2011 10:41am
    There's a fish slap social on HI2? That's very Monty Python... *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Mar 26 2011 10:00am
    So, would it be allowed here?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 26 2011 10:59am
    Yes, it's ok. As long as they keep it polite. *laughing out loud!* :)
    REPLY: (by SpottedRose) Mar 26 2011 3:17pm
    There's a lot of Monty Python on HI2 XD. You can see the Fish-Slapping Dance sketch on ... that video site.
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Mar 27 2011 5:52am
    I loveee fish slapping people :D
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    REPLY: (by NightMare) Apr 21 2011 5:59pm
    Bombarding players (by Miranda)
    If there is more than one mod on a server, please remember to tell each other when you are pming a player about a problem. Say "I got playername" so that the other mods know that player has been talked to already. When players get bombarded by pms by mods for spam, or whatever, they tend to get edgy.:)
    Thanks!
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Apr 22 2011 1:29am
    Can I also say that it is really helpful if you log in to let the other mod know that you've logged in. :D Otherwise they dont know to tell you that they PMd that player hehe.
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    REPLY: (by NightMare) Apr 21 2011 6:06pm
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 28 2010 5:54pm
    I know some of them drive you totally crazy, and try to hit every button to get a "response" from you. They push it as far as they can, sometimes they go too far, but usually stop at actually crossing the line. Still they harassing, whine and well, end up with lots of drama and stuff...

    Please try to be tolerant. Most are kids and those that aren't are certainly acting like it. :P They are trying to get you angry, and trying to push your buttons. It is the "thing" to do these days.

    So try to ignore them, or channel the subject in a different direction if possible (doesn't always work, but please try.)

    Only mute players when they are truly disrupting global with the "drama." If it's getting nasty then a mute is needed if they won't stop otherwise, but please try not to mute them. Usually if ignored they will quit.

    If you don't respond, then get bored. *laughing out loud!*

    "Overmodding" causes more problems than it solves. The players start hating the mods because they can't do anything, and then they really start misbehaving.

    I'm not talking about the serious drama, or the trouble maker who is totally nasty and disrupting the server. This is pertaining to those who are just "fussing" and being obnoxious. Just let them be. If it bothers others they can mute that player. :D

    Thankies,
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Mutes Repost
    REPLY: (by NightMare) Apr 21 2011 6:15pm
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 12 2010 9:32am
    Please remember these are kids, some are young, some not so young but still most are kids. Please be patient with them.

    Many times they deliberately bug you because they like to bug "adults" or those who represent authority such as moderators. When you mute them for doing this, you lose and they win, they got to you. So, they will keep on doing it.

    Try to ignore. Unless they are massively breaking the rules, ignore them. Let them have a bit of a rant, if it becomes nasty then mute, but please watch the mute time. Keep it down if at all possible to 5 to 15 or 20 minutes for repeat mutes. The longer the mute when they are trying to push your buttons the more they win.

    Short mutes will get as many violations possibly even more than long mutes... Example: Mute PlayerA for slander for 5 minutes (heads up mod is serious) tell the player why they were muted, then do Not continue to talk to them. If they come out of mute and say ModX muted me, ignore them. If they just won't drop it pm them to please drop that topic now, it's over. If they don't mute for 10. Now they will have 2 violations. If they repeat the harassing and just won't stop or drop it, then mute again for 15... now it's 3 violations...

    When you just get fed up with them because they do this day after day and slap them with a 30 minute mute and there really isn't anything in the current chat that is bad, the report is deleted. No violations will be given. Or, if the mute is excessive, then the mute is enough and again no violation points will be given.

    So over muting defeats the purpose all around. What the player did yesterday is unimportant for the most part. They start all over again today. There are a few exceptions, but not many. If we see a moderator who continues to mute a player for the same thing for 5, then 10, then 15, then 20, then 30, then 45, then 60 we will nail them with violation points. If all we see is 30 and nothing wrong in the chat then the report is usually deleted.

    So, please be patient, and don't worry about controlling every little tiny thing... they have a right to chat, talk and fuss. As long as the topic is ok, and the fuss is minor. :)
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    REPLY: (by NightMare) Apr 21 2011 6:20pm
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 26 2010 12:47pm
    So we are all on the same page. :)

    When player spam with socials, if you wish you may send to prison, but not rules please.

    Players can mute socials for a bit if they do not wish to be spammed with them. The socials do not show up in the chat logs, so there is no way of verifying a social spamming report unless the player makes some type of comment that they are/were spamming socials.

    Since players can mute the socials if they do not wish to be spammed, it's not really a big deal. So Prison is ok, especially for those who absolutely and totally will not stop, as well as a mute of some type if they just keep it up time and again after returning from prison.

    Rules is basically a 1 time send for those players who don't seem to be able to understand what rules are. There are only I think 3 sets of questions, so they should not really be sent more than 3 times. If they are quite young, please do not send to rules, try to explain the rules to them. The young kids can't ever get off Rules, as they don't understand the Game rules. Just mute those over and over until they either learn to follow the rules or let them play quietly. *laughing out loud!* :)

    Mutes are usually much more effective than Rules isle. Mutes can start at 5, then 10, 15 or 20, 30, 45, 60. Sometimes 5 minute reports are deleted as those are basically just a "heads up" please follow rules. If they continue after that then violations can be assigned. So if you mute as the above, probably: 0 for the 5, 1 for the 10 or 15, then 1, then 2, then 2... The violations will start adding up and end up with a temp ban.

    For those who are sent to Rules for minor issues over and over, the reports are frequently deleted. Rules has no meaning for those players, and they got a 20 minute mute instead of the 5 or 10 they should have received.

    And as previously stated, we delete social spamming unless the player admits it in chat since we can't see it. Prison isle is ok, but it's a very minor offense since players can mute socials and block the spamming.

    Many of the current players for this game are now young children. The older ones are frequently on HI2. *laughing out loud!* So we need to be a bit more patient, tolerant, and helpful. :)

    Thankies :)
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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 25 2011 10:06am
    Thought I would create one post for profile questions/answers. Old posts may be removed, some might be left for others to see.

    Reminder:

    If it's not bad, leave it. *laughing out loud!*

    If players wish to say someone is their real life husband/wife they may do so. The must clarify that it is in real life, and not game talk. They may give a player name, or no name. They may say they have kids, and give usernames only. No age's however. *laughing out loud!*

    What they may not do is date on the game or be married "on game." Horses may marry, but not the players.

    I'll give an example using moderators *laughing out loud!* At this time there are two moderators who are married in real life. If they wish to say PlayerX is my real life husband, or PlayerT is my real life wife it's ok. As long as it's clear it's in real life.

    It's technically better if we don't go into that, however it's not against the rules either. As long as it's not going into Dating and it's clear that it is in real life and not an on game thing. Basically it isn't any other players business, however sometimes it can help prevent being "hit on" by some of the kids too... *laughing out loud!* So I understand the desire to say "Hay I'm taken." Note: that doesn't stop many however. :(

    We all have to put up with the players wanting to "date" moderators. I find it nearly hysterically funny... if they only knew how old I am they would be mortified. *rolling on floor laughing!* :P
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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 27 2011 9:40am
    When someone breaks the rules, if it's minor please give a reminder.

    If it's major such as bad language or something, or for whatever reason you mute the player, please be sure to tell the player why they were muted.

    Yes, they probably do know, but sometimes they don't think what they did was bad as perhaps it's allow in their home...

    They will continue doing it if they don't know what they did was wrong, and they will lose any and all respect for moderators as the mod muted them for no reason....

    They still may fuss and pretend they don't know, but if they are told why, then they at least do know and perhaps down the road they will behave better.

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    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Apr 29 2011 9:49pm
    how descriptive are they allowed to be as far as boyfriends and girlfriends in profiles....Can they say they love them...how long they have been together...or are they not alloud to mention at all...I have see a LOT of profiles with these types of posts...Just want to know what is allowed....thanks :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 30 2011 8:31am
    It sort of depends on how it's presented.

    If they say they have a gf/bf and they are in love. Ok, it's not actually going into dating. If it goes further, then it goes into dating and should be altered/removed.

    I look at it and think: is it ok for a young child to see? If it is, then it can stay. If not, then it needs to go.

    As we do not allow dating, if it goes into dating or date speak, then that needs to go. Mainly what we try to avoid is content that is not suitable for young children. The game is rated G so it should be clean language, clean content, non-violent. Worst violence on the game should be throwing rotten tomato's. *laughing out loud!*

    Thanks :)
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    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) May 20 2011 9:25am
    Ok, I have a bit of a complaint or maybe a suggestion. Does anuyone know if they are thinking of adding a "Rest all" option to the barns?? Gets so tedious when you have 60 or 70 plus horses to rest, *laughing out loud!*

    I am not up on all the programming requirments..so would that require a bung of programming? Just a suggestion, *laughing out loud!* Any comments or opinions would be Great :)

    Thanks guys.

    Also, the Hubby and I are going back out to the Lancaster area again this weekend. Just taking the little guy this time...the older kids have chosen to stay with Grandma because we arent doing "fun" things. We are going to sight see and POSSIBLY talk to a realestate agent *wink wink* Nothing set in stone...just looking to see whats out there. Hubby and I LOVE PA. So, wish us luck. We are also going to visit My pony that I had to find a home for...so REALLY looking forward to the weekend :)

    Ok, so I went a bit crazy in this post...*laughing out loud!* Just very excited about my weekend :) Cant wait to see My pony ( miss him terribly but his new mommy is absolutely amazing with him..he could NOT have a better home) and also can not wait to spend a very relaxing weekend with hubby and our youngest :) So, I wont be around here much this weekend either :( But I WILL be trying ot check in once a day. so...if anyone really needs me...just send me some mail on Dun :)

    Thanks for listening/reading and I hope all my fellow mods have a FANTASTIC weekend. Hugs to you all :)

    Jersey
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 20 2011 10:36am
    I don't know. I don't think, Joe is planning to do that as I think... it would go into major coding and reworking the games programing.

    I would sure love to have that, but probably not something he want's to get into.

    Have fun Jersey! And good luck! :)
    REPLY: (by BoneGirl) May 21 2011 2:42am
    Hope it all goes well and have a fantastic time!!!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Mods please read. :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 25 2011 1:25pm
    Just a reminder:

    Please watch what you say in buddy chat.

    Especially if it's dealing with another player. Much of what you say Will be copied and shared with that other person, sometimes being taken out of context.

    Never ever say anything bad about another player to anyone other than a moderator or relative. *laughing out loud!* Vent in mod chat if you wish to but please do Not vent in buddy chat.

    Remember, what you say probably will be copied to that person. So please make sure you are always polite toward others in chats.

    Thankies :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 27 2011 8:21am
    If someone is breaking the rules, or you thing someone might be, it's fine to make a PSA or Public Service Announcement, whether in Global or Buddy. As long as it's not something that is allowed, and you are just venting about a player or a couple of players who perhaps were deliberately baiting you, or ticking you off. That needs to go into mod chat. :)

    Venting is good. It helps us keep our balance and our "cool" *laughing out loud!* If you know someone in real life who is playing such as a relative or true best friend you can vent to them in PM as obviously they will not be repeating it. Otherwise it really needs to stay in the mod chat.

    Others just will grab part of what you said and copy/paste it to others. It's taken out of context sometimes even tweaked, others may or may not even understand the situation, thus the moderator then becomes a truly nasty vindictive power hungry person who players hate. = All they see is someone who misused her power, is slandering others for no reason. Except she isn't, and she didn't say it that way... Thus the need to be careful. :)

    This is just a reminder. Summer is here, lots of new and bored kids will hopefully *laughing out loud!* be signing up. Stress levels may increase. We need to be on guard.

    Hands out mod armor, tylenol, chocolate and tea. :)
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    REPLY: (by ThisMagicMoment) Jun 15 2011 9:30am
    Heya

    So there was a post in General about players having french profiles. I told them since this is an english only game it needs to be in english or have an english translation immediately following it (since that is what I have been told makes it ok).
    However,
    While I was looking up the direct quote in D.R to drive my point home (hehe), It says that it doesn't matter if there is a translation - no other language is allowed.
    Would just like some clarification. I know if their horse's name is in a different language, they have to have a translation on it's profile. I suppose I figured it's the same with profiles *laughing out loud!*

    Am I on the right page now? Other language horse names is ok if a translation is on it's profile. Any other language any where else is Not allowed?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 15 2011 11:17am
    We do allow other languages in player profiles, horse profiles and horse names. However, they must provide an accurate translation and of course the content must be game appropriate.

    So that if I run it through a translator I will get approximately what they have stated it says in English. :)

    What we don't allow is another language in public chat. An occasional Hola, or Bonjour type of thing is ok. But no chatting in another language.

    They also run a risk of chat flags and violations for other languages when the chat in Private, as the filter is set for English only. Many words in other languages mean something totally different and are ok, however the spelling will be caught by the filter and violation points will be assigned. This game is in English. So it's a risk others take if they choose to Privately speak another language.
    REPLY: (by ThisMagicMoment) Jun 15 2011 12:08pm
    ok
    I guess I just don't understand why the Detailed Rules says this instead:
    Detailed Rules under English:
    3] Please do not include another language in any Profiles, including Horse and Player profiles, if another language is included in your profile, you will be notified and told to remove it, or it will be forcibly removed.
    4] Naming of Horses in other languages are acceptable provided you include the meaning of the name in the horse's profile.
    5] The filter is not set up to handle other languages.
    6] The game and rules are written in English, so you need to understand English to play, so saying you don't know English is not a legitimate excuse.
    and under Profiles:
    4] Please ensure that ALL content in your profile is in the English language.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 15 2011 12:31pm
    Miranda relented a bit in regards to profiles. :)
    REPLY: (by Snuffleupagus) Jun 15 2011 1:22pm
    I apologize for my hej's and okej's. I really do try and stop but it is such a habit. :o/
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 15 2011 4:26pm
    Those are fine. :)
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    REPLY: (by AppleBay) Jun 22 2011 5:53am
    There may already be a post on this (so sorry if I have missed that) but do we have rules to say that asking people to enter competitions (racing, simple, advanced etc) should be kept to ads chat - or are they okay being in global if they are only asking players to enter/saying number of places spare?

    Thanks :)
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Jun 22 2011 6:00am
    DP said global was fine as long as they were posting every 5 min.. but if not for them to use ads chat.. that keeps them from flooding global :)
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Jun 22 2011 6:05am
    Yep, thats right Froggy. :) From what I understand it anyway
    REPLY: (by AppleBay) Jun 22 2011 7:24am
    Ah thanks for the clarification :D I had a player earlier (i'll call them Player1) who PMed me saying people asking for competitors should go in ads too (I had earlier told them use ads for selling) so said i'd find out for them if they should or not. I didn't think they had to so I shall pass this info onto them. Thanks!
    (wow... long post *laughing out loud!*)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 22 2011 8:22am
    Yep. *laughing out loud!* :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Need to get ahold of me? Here is how.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 23 2011 8:46pm
    Mail: desertpaint at horseisle dot com

    I am usually available. Might be in an out, or around, but I pop in to check on the game frequently. I only rarely am actually gone.

    My usual hours are from 8 or 9 am to 8 or 9 pm Pacific US time. I might not be on the game - server but I'm available and can log on if needed. Or as soon as I get the message... I actually do eat play with pets and horse on occasion. :)

    And oh, yeah I do take showers upon occasion. :P Usually when a server is misbehaving... they know... *laughing out loud!*

    I have pop-ups turned on for my mail so I will see it if I'm sitting here, and if not there will be the icon on the computer when I return. It also beeps me. *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 23 2011 8:59pm
    Um, note: This is to be used by Moderators Only. It is not to be given to players. :)

    Thought I would just clarify there... *laughing out loud!*
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Please remember to not lose temper :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 26 2011 12:38pm
    Well, summer is here! Great for barbeque, swimming, fun time and... short tempered and bored kids.

    Please remember to be patient, kind, polite at all times. Regardless of what the player says. If they are rude ok, ignore rude. Do not respond to it. If they are nice, answer.

    If they keep fussing in pm privately mute them at least for a bit. If they drag it into global request it be kept out of public chat, if they don't give 5 or 10 minute mute for just rude and mild disrupting. If it goes to fighting then 15 or 20 minute mutes.

    Players may be rude toward mods. It's ok. Ignore them if they are rude or personally mute. They don't have to respect us, or even respect the position of moderator. It's of course in their best interest to do so, but... their choice. ;)

    Just pretend to be a robot, don't let them get to you and don't respond to "attitude" just give a mod shortcut, generic or copy/paste answer then ignore. :)

    When we respond to their attitude they win, they got to us and they will continue and escalate, then get massively ticked off because we are soo mean and muted them for no reason. Best to just sit back and pretend to be the modbot. :)

    Good luck!

    Use the mail given in my other post if you need assistance, or have a question. :)
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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 30 2011 6:57pm
    Please remember to not accuse another player of something if you did not see it.

    For example if Player1 tells you that Player2 was mean, just tell Player1 she/he can mute Player2 and file an abuse report. If you did not see it in Global, isle, here, or near, or buddy, then it did not happen as far as you are concerned.

    Many times it did not happen. Player1 was just trying to get Player2 into trouble. Or Player1 misunderstood Player2.

    So when you PM Player2 and say "Please do not be mean to others, what you said to Player1 was not nice." That doesn't work. Player2 may not have even spoken to Player1. So, you end up harassing players.

    Just be careful. Hearsay is usually incorrect.

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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: religion
    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Jun 30 2011 8:02pm
    A player was told they can not have religion..so they now have this....

    Suppression of freedom and expression is ILLEGAL.Thank you for keeping us our rights to express ourselves.

    Is that ok or should it be removed?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 30 2011 8:10pm
    It's ok. If she fuss's however you can remind her this is a privately owned game, thus freedom of speech is non existent.

    Especially as it's a family oriented game and international. :)
    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Jun 30 2011 8:14pm
    Why can i NEVER think of the explanations that you come up with, *laughing out loud!* Thanks..i will DEF. log that in :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 30 2011 8:21pm
    *rolling on floor laughing!*
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Players may Not sell special font profiles
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 4 2011 9:36am
    Since only the person with the different keyboard and playstation or wii can do this, and it can't be copy/pasted in that way they may NOT sell them.

    To sell them means they have to go onto the other persons account. That is strictly against the rules, so in this instance they may not sell the special characters for profiles. They may use them themselves, but not sell them.

    Thanks
    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Jul 4 2011 8:17pm
    GREAT..another rule that will make them like us even more, *laughing out loud!* Noted :)
    REPLY: (by Everlend) Jul 4 2011 9:05pm
    Thanks for the update DP :).
    REPLY: (by Continuum) Jul 5 2011 12:27pm
    What about "selling" them by trading a horse to another player and having them do the font and sell it back? Basically the same idea as training?
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Jul 5 2011 12:47pm
    To even trade a profile for a ranch, player or horse for another item isn't possible without allowing the player making the profile to get on another players account which would against the rules.. If they say they can do the profile without getting on the account, then it would be a total scam. can't sell nor trade for the special font profiles
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Jul 5 2011 12:51pm
    Ohh sorry I misread that Cont.. Do the fonts stay when traded??
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 5 2011 1:26pm
    I thought you couldn't copy/paste them. They had to be actually typed in. If they can be copy/pasted, then that would work. However trading a horse is risky as they might not get it back.

    I don't have anything that will do the special fonts so I can't test it. When I tried to copy another players profile however the fonts didn't come though. That could have just been my computer however. I was on the older one. *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Jul 5 2011 4:10pm
    I paid a couple of players to trade me over horses with the special fonts in their names and/or profiles. If they trade a horse to have a special profile done it's the risk they take of not getting the horse back. The fonts can't be copied and pasted but you can trade a horse with the special fonts and they stay the same/fancy when traded back n forth
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 5 2011 6:02pm
    Ahh ok, Thank you Froggy! :) I will pay you back when I get on next. Currently waiting for dinner to cook *laughing out loud!*

    Okra is not frying quickly. :S Then again, it's a huge pan. :D
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Jul 6 2011 7:41am
    Awww thank DP.. there is no need but very kind and appreciated. It was my choice, to experiment to find out if players did trade/train for a custom profile if the profile would stay the same.. Some players said yes some said no.. Now we all know :)
    REPLY: (by Continuum) Jul 6 2011 8:30pm
    However risky, since we allowed trading...it's technically allowed but not advised?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 6 2011 9:10pm
    If they wish to sell the horses with the special fonts like any other sale that's fine. What they may not do at all is advertise for profiles containing the different fonts as they can't be copy/pasted, or do them for others either since the person doing the profile would Have to go onto the other persons account to do the special fonts. That is massively against the rules and could end up with both players banned, at least for a while.
    REPLY: (by Piper) Aug 2 2011 7:23am
    Dp, from what i'm understanding that you're saying is that the players, can't sell the special fonts, but if they havea horse with the spcial font, they can sell it with it. Correct? What about using the special font in global chat? Pipsy
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 2 2011 8:01am
    The font can be used in chats, that's fine.

    What happens in the horse names and profiles is that some of those fonts, especially some of the wii characters break the save button. The only way to fix it is for Miranda go go in and clean out the entire profile.

    If they were able to use the fonts and save them in the first place, then they are using characters that are ok, so they can sell that horse with the special name or profile. But, since I'm not sure which characters break the save ability, they may not sell player profiles, or such. If it's already there, fine. If not, please don't put it there. *laughing out loud!*
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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 12 2011 2:39pm
    Players may state they have piercings and their locations as long as the location is um, not X rated. *laughing out loud!*

    They may also state tattoo's, again as long as the tattoo is appropriate and the location is appropriate... *laughing out loud!*

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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Mods, please remember to watch your own profiles for content :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 14 2011 3:26pm
    Please be careful of your own profiles. :)

    We as moderators must set an example for the players. That means:

    No violence, adult or adult type dating content, no bad language... Nothing suggestive either, or that could possibly be seen as suggestive.

    So please go though your own profiles and your horse profiles and make sure all content is ok for the young kids. Our profiles can't even be quite as lenient as the kids. *laughing out loud!*

    It's very difficult to tell a player they can't have something in their profile when a moderator has it or has something like it in a profile.

    Some things look harmless from one point of view, but if looked at a bit differently, well it's not so good. :S

    Also watch out for lyrics. We hear them all the time as as adults or close to adults and we think little of it. However, many of them are not appropriate for this game.

    So please co a check. :)

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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 15 2011 12:13pm
    *laughing out loud!*

    Also please check out my post in General regarding profiles and what is and is not allowed. Trying to get everyone on the same page her. :)

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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 29 2011 8:48am
    This is starting up on HI2 in the forums, so might wander over here.

    I can't find my previous post on this so thought I would post again. *laughing out loud!* :)

    Please do not discuss harmful, hurtful, violent or degrading topics, this is a fun upbeat game, please keep all content along those lines, thanks.

    For the death threats: I'm assuming you are joking here. If not please seek professional help by contacting a hotline, please keep all such talk off this game as it is not the place for such content. Thanks

    Follow up if needed: We are not professionals who are trained to help, as much as we wish to help you we are not trained for such. Please seek professional help from someone who can truly help. Thanks

    :)
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Jul 29 2011 9:44am
    Would it be going too far to offer the number for the National Suicide Hotline via PM in such case of death threats (if they seem serious?)
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Jul 29 2011 10:16am
    Do you still want us to mute if they are talking about self harming themselves? I know that is what we were instructed to do previously.. ?
    DP this is what you had previously posted..(just if you wanted to know.. *laughing out loud!*)

    I am assuming that what you have said is a very, very bad joke. If for any reason I thought you were serious, my next action would have to be to give you a prolonged mute on this game and refer you to some suitable help and counseling sites. Am I right in thinking this is a joke?
    (mute 12-24hrs)
    That was cut n saved from your previous post about that from like 2 yrs ago or so..
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 29 2011 10:35am
    You will be flagged if you give out that address Orb, and many players are not in the US so it doesn't help them. I will tell them to Google a help site if they need to do so. That should bring up more local sites for them.

    Thank you Froggy, yes that works fine.
    Yes please do mute, that's just a post you may use if you wish... *laughing out loud!* :)

    Sometimes when they put something like that into global then the server is freaking out... it's difficult to remember what to say. *laughing out loud!* So that's a guideline, or may be used if you wish. :)
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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 2 2011 7:07pm
    Remember we are moderators and thus held to higher standards than other "regular" players. :)

    If you hold a contest and advertise it in public chat (ads chat) then please remember it must be for the entire server.

    If you wish to only have said contest for buddies, then please only advertise in buddy chat.

    Please do make sure your contests are fair to all who enter or are give a chance to enter. :)

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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: What is and isn't allowed in profiles. :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 8 2011 11:54am
    It's sometimes difficult to know where the line goes, so hope this helps. :)

    They may not have any words that would normally be caught by the filter or that are not allowed on the game. If they use the filtered version then it's fine. Non filtered version isn't.

    They may not have dating: Saying they have a bf or gf is ok, actually discussing the dating isn't. This includes in lyrics. If it goes into dating it's off. Just mentioning the subject is ok.

    They may not have slavery: No owning others or selling/buying others. They may of course have friends/buddies. Just not buy/sell/trade them or own them.

    They may not have threats in their profiles. They may say "don't mess with my buddies" that's fine, it's not a direct threat. They may Not say "Don't mess with my buddies or I will hurt you/hunt you down..." that is not ok as it's a direct threat. If not a direct threat it's fine, if it's a direct threat it needs to go.

    No Violence. They may say they are Emo, they may not say they cut. They can say they don't cut, but not that they do cut.

    No cannibalism. No eating/nomming others or themselves.

    No animal cruelty. They may say they rescued a horse, they may not discuss the condition of the horse or what happened to it.

    No "Adult content" is allowed. After all this is a family game. They need to go elsewhere if they wish to discuss such content. They may say they are married (in real life) they may not marry on the game. This includes in lyrics. Now... if it's not specific, it it's not obvious what the topic is... there is some leeway here, so use your judgement, but don't get too picky... *laughing out loud!* :)

    HarryPotter: They may discuss this, no graphic violence however.

    They may say what state, country/province/shire... they live in, but nothing closer. They may say PlayerX is their sister/brother/mother/father... whatever. No ages or age ranges allowed however. No Schools, no "middle school" or "high school" thing. College is ok. Reason: technically anyone of any age can attend College or University.

    They may use chatspeak to their hearts content in profiles. Players don't have to read the profile if they don't want to. Unfortunately this makes it difficult for us, but hopefully we can trudge though it. *laughing out loud!* :) Shares tylenol.

    I'm sure I've left out a ton of stuff, but at the moment this is all I can think of. *laughing out loud!*

    Remember to not be "nit picky" :) If at all possible let the kids/adults have their profiles. Only request a change or removal if it's not appropriate for this game.

    Please remember to be polite at all times with the kids. Do Not argue or debate with them. Give an explination, if you actually feel the player might not have understood try another explination, after that ignore them or personally mute them. They were asked to remove, they were told why. If they need more clarification they can contact support. Try to give at least 5 minutes for them to remove a profile, if you think they are competiting then perhaps 10. They don't need more time than that. If you keep the profile up and the player logs off without telling you they altered the profile delete it. If they removed it they won't get vio's. If they didn't they will. They don't need more than 10 minutes to remove something or alter something. They need to do it then when requested, not tomorrow or whenever they feel like it. Don't aruge, don't let them bait you. Just be a polite robot, make the request, 1 or possibly 2 explinations then shut down. Remove if needed. Also please be sure to thank the player if they have removed it even if they have been a bit nasty about it. *laughing out loud!* :) Ignore the nasty, just respond to the polite. If they fuss, ignore. If they are nice respond. :)

    Hope this helps. :)

    DP
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 23 2011 4:50pm
    Add on :)

    Saying "I don't bite" or something like that is ok. If they say they do bite, then it's not ok. :)

    Thankies
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 21 2011 7:58pm
    Here is another one, this type of thing is ok. It's sort of a threat, but it's not a big enough deal to remove or even bother the player with.

    please DONT mess with PlayerOne she is the best bud you could ever had!!! Same with PlayerTwo she is the best kid ever so dont mess with her if you dont want to mess with me!!!

    Edited a bit with the names. *laughing out loud!*

    Now if she said, don't mess with me or I will hurt you or stalk you, that is a direct threat and should go. :)

    Thanks
    REPLY: (by Naginata) Oct 24 2011 7:40am
    What about:

    1) Player so-and-so is my wifey/hubby
    2) Player so-and-so is my bf/gf

    I ask about the above, particularly in cases when you are aware that what is said in the profile isn't true...
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Oct 24 2011 9:46am
    On the game relationships/families etc we were told were not allowed.
    In real life instances regarding spouses they may say so n so (player names only) is my real life hubby/wife.. I would assume same would go for bf/gf as long as they don't get into details about their relationship.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: No more Wii Fonts
    REPLY: (by ThisMagicMoment) Aug 19 2011 5:16pm
    I heard that there are no more Wii fonts allowed (Yahoo! My eyes!), but then read further to see that horses who already have Wii fonts in their name can keep them, but it is against the rules to add anymore.
    I am sorry, but I do not see how on earth I can enforce this. I feel like all the kiddos will say 'oh no, I've had this for a long time! Before they made the new rule'
    Can we just get rid of them all-together? i feel like that would be easier to enforce - no wii fonts for anyone.
    Help! :)
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Aug 19 2011 5:23pm
    Well we certainly will know those that haven't had them since Miranda's post, especially if they use any of the special fonts that clash with the HI coding..
    Just like any of the rules.. we can try to help enforce them, but kids are going to be kids and when the cats..well mods away, they are going to try to play.
    So far the couple of players I have had ask me about this have been very understanding and one even said sorry because they didn't know it took a lot of time for Miranda to try to sort out the mess.
    I think players need to be understanding and patient. It's a shame they don't want to understand the need for change (which life will give them all their lives....
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 19 2011 6:44pm
    If they have them, and it's not glitching, they may keep them. Just don't do it again. *laughing out loud!* :S
    REPLY: (by Continuum) Aug 24 2011 7:51pm
    Okay so I missed this, what's the new ruling on fonts. I was told it was okay before...it's not now?
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Aug 24 2011 8:35pm
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 18 2011 8:46am
    This is from Miranda:

    "Please stop using the Wii fonts on horse names and descriptions. This often messes with the coding for the game and makes it so sometimes the save button disappears. This prevents you from being able to change that horse's information and forces me to go in and erase the name and description.
    Sorry it doesn't work with it. "

    So, if you already have something, and nothing is glitching fine, you may keep it. However please do Not add more, or use the other fonts in profiles and horse names. :)

    Lets not use the special fonts at all for profiles and horse names please.

    Again, if you already have it and it's working you may keep it.

    There was basically the same post here in our forum without the added bit of it they already have them and they work they may keep them.. hope this helps :)
    REPLY: (by Continuum) Aug 25 2011 11:50am
    So how do we know if it's new or not?
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Aug 25 2011 3:00pm
    I don't think there is a way to truly know if it's new or not. but if they are trying to use the wii fonts and break the game Miranda sure will know when she had to go and fix it..
    I suppose kids will be kids and if they think they can get away with it they will try it.. =/
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Aug 29 2011 7:04am
    Okay.. new question.. Sorry..
    Players are now asking if it's only the wii font or does this also include the other playstation like fonts? Some are now saying it only says wii, I have a playstation or xbox?
    I have been telling players that it's all special fonts that aren't part of the game, that game consoles are using different coding and can still mess up the game and please don't use them.
    Ruling, advice, etc Thank you much!!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 29 2011 10:08am
    All "other" fonts.

    Use this given game font or break the profile basically. While there are a few of the characters that don't seem to break it, that might just be lucky... So No more special fonts regardless of what they are. Those that do have them may keep them, however they do risk it locking up at any given time so they really should get rid of them.

    As to how it will be handled if they continue to use the fonts... I have no idea. Several options from fixing profile after profile (includes horse names) and delaying updates and other game work to assigning violations to just leaving them broken and keeping the player from altering it at all.

    I don't know which of those Miranda will choose. Personally I opt for the last one... perhaps that will make a large enough impression... they won't risk it. *laughing out loud!* Since they would not be able to alter their profile or their horses profile or name.

    Possible down side to that however is, especially if it's there personal profile, that they would create a multiple account because their original account's profile was broken. -_-

    So, no idea what will be done if they keep using the fonts, but it is against the rules to use them.
    REPLY: (by Miranda) Sep 7 2011 12:08pm
    Honestly, don't worry about 'enforcing' this. The note is so players realize that using those fonts can often break the profile. I definitely don't expect mods to make a big deal out of it, and I actually don't want them to. As mods, ignore it completely. If a player complains about a horse's save button missing, mention that it's because they used Wii fonts (most likely) and to email support so I can delete the name/description.
    REPLY: (by ThisMagicMoment) Sep 12 2011 8:22am
    Ok great, thanks for clearing this up! :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Reminder: Please don't be too strict :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 24 2011 9:56am
    Please remember to not be too strict.

    Let the kids have fun. If that is goofing around in global, ok. :)

    As long as the content is ok and others are not complaining then let them run with whatever.

    Also please be aware, many things do indeed have inappropriate meanings or uses, but those same things also have ok meanings and uses. So look at how it's being used and if it's ok then let them have fun. :)

    I know many do use things deliberately to be inappropriate. But if it's not obvious that they are using something in a bad way, then let them have at it.

    Remember this is a game, it's a place to have fun. Chat doesn't always have to be strictly about the game. Other things can be chatted about, messed around with also. :)

    The Urban Dictionary meaning is not to be used for "primary" meanings. If something looks bad in it's context ok then it may be the UD meaning. But please be careful. Usually the actual context is fine.

    Nearly every word has a bad meaning in the UD. But that is not how it's being used on this game.

    Save the UD for help if players report something that is like "Um what?" OOH dear...

    Or to help you understand why that topic is not going over well and there is a bruhaha starting. Otherwise ignore it's existence. :)

    *goes off for another cup of coffee* :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 6 2011 12:27pm
    Adding on: a small bit of spam sometimes is ok. ;)

    As long as it doesn't continue too long and bug others or become inappropriate. Let them have fun if possible. :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Note: We do Not return money, horses or items.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 5 2011 11:13am
    I'm getting this from a lot of players:

    A mod told me you could get my horse back for me. (Or in some instances money.)

    We do not return horses, money or items to players period.

    If they choose to risk letting something out of their account then they choose to take the risk of losing it.

    Those who deliberately steal are banned, however we do not return things. If someone's account is banned, we do not return things. If someone quits, we do not return things.

    Just don't have the time or resources to do this for the hundred or so players every day who lose things...

    Thus the rule, it's also a moderator shortcut *training* = Horse Isle does not replace money, horses or items that you may lose from trading, loaning, boarding or training. You do these at your own risk.

    This is not aimed at any one in particular, and the players may very well be lying when they say "A mod told me you would maybe get my horse back." *laughing out loud!* But just so we are all on the same page, I posted this. :)

    (Once a long time ago there was a unique and special situation where a few horses were returned to a player. That most likely will never happen again, and as I stated the situation was unique and special.)

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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Paying to enter jumping
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Sep 23 2011 1:20pm
    A player asked me the following question:

    Player: In the rules when it says "1] No paying others to win, lose or place in a competition. This is considered cheating." I heard someone mention that paying someone to ENTER sj was against the rules too.. That true?

    I said: I don't think so, since you're just giving players money to play. You're not asking them to win, lose, or place. You just want them to play.

    I also told her I'd double check on this point. So does the rule apply to paying players in regards to jumping, period? Or can they pay players just to enter?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 23 2011 3:11pm
    Players may pay others to enter a competition. If they do, they must pay ALL entries the same so it's fair.

    What they may not do is pay players to win, lose or place in a competition.

    :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Selling Non-Gifted POs
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Sep 24 2011 4:10pm
    I know that a player must be subscribed to sell subbies and POs.. but does that also go with non-gifted POs? We had a non-subscribed player on Bay sell a PO. I had reminded her about the rule about only subscribed players being able to sell POs and subbies. She explained it as in her inventory and so she got what the player wanted then they did the horse/money exchange. Are non subscribers allowed to sell (more or less a preselected horse)non-gifted PO?
    I sure hope this all makes sense.. *laughing out loud!* and thank you :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 25 2011 11:06am
    If any player wishes to sell a subscription, gifted po or non-gifted po they Must be subscribed. If they can't afford $5.00 to sub themselves, the chances of them having the money to buy a po is not likely.

    If they wish to get themselves a PO and order a horse, then sell the horse fine. However they can't sell the PO. Especially if they want money first. This usually ends up with a scam. If players wish to sell PO's gifted or not they need to sub themselves. :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Bids for monthly or yearly subs
    REPLY: (by Saharaflower) Oct 6 2011 12:44am
    From watching other players place bids in ads for a monthly or yearly sub. I think there should be a time limit set on it. I have seen one night a person bid out a monthly sub for over 3 hrs trying to get the highest bid but it sat at 40 mill the entire time.. I am not to sure what type of time limit but it can be frustrating to others trying to get maybe a month or a year and have to sit and wait wondering if they won the bid.
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    REPLY: (by ThisMagicMoment) Oct 6 2011 8:37am
    Here is how I see it:

    Those players selling monthly/yearly subs have put their REAL LIFE hard earned money into it (ok well on occassion maybe their parents real life hard earned money *laughing out loud!*).
    They are using REAL money and therefore, I think, they can ask/take bids for however long they choose until they get an offer that they feel would be worth their rl money.

    Just my opinion, but since players are trading real money for play money, I think the players using the real money are in the power seat. Meaning they get to choose.
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Oct 6 2011 8:57am
    I'd have to agree with TMM.
    REPLY: (by DarkFaerie) Oct 6 2011 9:01am
    I too agree with TMM, although I can see what you are saying about waiting forever wondering whether they have the winning bid or not. I know on pinto at the moment, next to no one is selling subs and everyone seems to be buying so they do go for loads when the bidding is over a day or sometimes even a few days. :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 6 2011 10:55am
    There is not rule regarding time limits for private auctions, this is what the rules say regarding that:

    Private Auctions
    1]Private Auctions are any auction held by a player and not in the auction block provided on Horse Isle. These are not endorsed by Horse Isle. We recommend you do not hold or partake in these.
    2]We realize that only horses can be auctioned at the auction blocks. If you feel you must hold a private auction for items, you may. However, if there are complaints or reports of scamming, you may be asked to stop.
    3]Private auctions are not controlled at all. It is possible for the auction holder to lie about the highest bid. It is also possible for players to bid more money than they have. If you find this is the case, please file an Abuse Report on the player immediately and let a moderator know if one is online.
    4]If asked to stop holding an auction by a moderator, please do so immediately.

    It's a risk players take, however as long as they follow the rules: Never pay until you have received the sub or PO, it should be ok. :)

    Thanks
    REPLY: (by Saharaflower) Oct 6 2011 10:35pm
    ok tvm for feedback guys.. I do agree with what TMM is saying but also feeling like some players have to wait forever.. thats why I was asking on rules or limits on bidding a monthly out
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Moderators please read :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 18 2011 6:22pm
    Just a reminder. :)

    Please remember that moderators are held to higher standards than other players, so we do need to be careful what we say in chats as well as what we do.

    We must not be overly picky, this is a game after all and the object is to have fun. That said, obviously the rules need to be followed to keep this a fun place, but please do remember that these are not your kids, and you are not their mom. They don't have to respect you or like you. They do have to follow the rules, but please remember to be patient and as lenient as possible.

    Some are young kids, some are old kids ;) All are kids. :) They are here to have fun. So if they want to chat ok, or whatever as long as it's ok for all ages. They may say they have a boyfriend/girlfriend, as long as it doesn't go into dating. We don't allow dating on the game or date speak. They may say many, many things but as long as it's not violent, inappropriate, graphic... it's ok.

    I realize sometimes it's difficult to figure out where the line should be. Just think about the content...it ok for age 6/8? Just saying "my dog bit me" is fine. If they get graphic with it, then it should go to private chat. If they say they "I don't bite." Ok, yay! they are non violent. *laughing out loud!*

    If they say for example in a profile "I hate my brother" ok fine as long as they don't name him. *laughing out loud!* If they give the name then it needs to be changed. If they say they will or want to hurt the brother then it needs to go as that is a threat.

    Horse names, if it's not a threat it's probably ok. Mostly it's how it's worded. Assassin is fine, I'm an Assassin isn't. Hurt is ok, Hurt You isn't. Knife is ok, Cuts with a knife isn't. That type of thing. :)

    Also please don't stretch yourselves too thin. Remember it's better to be a good moderator on one or two servers than not really there on several servers. That said, when the servers are pretty quiet one can indeed to several without a problem, but then again if 2 or more erupt at the same time = problem. When a mod is on and doesn't do anything, then another mod comes on and does something, this can trigger anger by the players. As they think the first mod didn't do anything because it's ok.

    So if you can do multiple servers ok, just please be careful and don't over reach yourself. Try to get some play time in there too! :)

    Thankies :)
    REPLY: (by AppleBay) Oct 19 2011 6:06am
    *salutes* Yes ma'am. Thanks :D
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Oct 19 2011 7:22am
    Great reminders DP!! :) Thank you
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Oct 19 2011 9:42am
    DP, I got your PM. Since there is no way to respond to it (that I saw, I could have missed it) I would like to state that NO ONE actually PMd me about the issue you contacted me about. Not one person. I find this very upsetting.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 19 2011 11:41am
    Orb, if you wish you can contact me at DesertPaint at horseisle dotsy com

    Then I can explain further. *laughing out loud!* :) I have trouble catching people on any more as my time is in and out still. :S
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Oct 19 2011 11:48am
    Ok DP. I used to do 7 servers when it was dead busy. :P But now there's hardly ever any players on so I just go on a couple of servers. If they need us they'll be sure to call!
    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Oct 19 2011 12:40pm
    I am usually on 3 or 4 at a time. Sometimes I think just our presence helps a bit :) *laughing out loud!* If one really starts acting up...I will normally close the quieter ones so I can focus where the help is needed :) I really do try to be as laid back and as "fun" as I can...But I think some of these players just like to push our buttons, *laughing out loud!* For the most part I will say what needs to be said (explaining a reminder, mute, or any action) and then ignore them if they refuse to accept the reasoning. If they really get bratty I will personally mute them for a bit. I ALWAYS remember to lift my mutes because even the brattiest of players have a legitimate question or concern at some point, *laughing out loud!*

    Great reminders DP :) I think a few of us DO try to treat these kids as if they are our own...I do ocassionally, as some of them HAVE chatted with me over pretty personal issues (loss of a loved one, low self esteem...etc) I NEVER push them to talk but find it hard to NOT have an open ear or a few words of encouragements or advice. I hope I am not over stepping any boundaries in doing so. I understand this is a place ofr them to come and have fun, However, I think some of them appreciate a kind word or just someone who is willing to listen. For the most part we have a great group of players :)

    Once again, Just my two cents in the can (clink, clink) :)
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Oct 19 2011 12:56pm
    It is very easy to forget that some of these players are just kids (or even teens.) Many of them are very eloquent and well-spoken, especially for their age-group, so sometimes it's easy to mistake them for little adults.

    So it's kind of a shock when we do get a player who behaves the same age that they likely are. That's where patience is DEFINITELY a virtue. Most of our players are intelligent and well-spoken beyond their years, but we do have some that are not, and it's very easy to lose patience with those because they aren't acting the way we may be accustomed to.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: paying to win
    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Oct 20 2011 11:03am
    Are they allowed to pay players that beat them in a comp? As in "Paying 500k to all players that beat me in racing" Or is this still considered cheating. Sorry if this has been answered before....jjust saw an ad like that and wanted to be sure :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 20 2011 11:07am
    Nope, that's cheating. They may pay players to enter a competition only. No paying others to win, lose or place.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: What is and isn't religion?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 3 2011 12:17pm
    Please be careful before asking for or removing things for religion.

    Mythology is not considered religious. We have mythological creatures on both HI1 and HI2. It is allowed.

    Things such as Norse are not religious, that refers to Scandinavian origins or a place/people. We allow Norse Mythology such as Valkyrie, Odin... Just as we allow Greek Mythology and Celtic Mythology... :)

    What we don't allow is players stating they are for example: Protestant, Catholic, whatever...that they go to church or quotes from religious books.

    Religion is separated from Mythology on Horse Isle.

    The object is: We don't want players preaching to others. We don't want others who do not share those beliefs to be offended. After all this is a game, not a religious forum. Players here are from all over the word with many different beliefs. It's none of our business what belief they do or don't have so we ask that they keep this to themselves.

    Players do not come here to be offended by others, they come here to get away from reality for a while and just have fun. :)

    If unsure of something or unsure what it should be classified, please ask. :)

    Thankies
    REPLY: (by RockPile) Nov 3 2011 3:14pm
    Thank you, DP, for the clarification =)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 3 2011 8:07pm
    Bumpy :)
    REPLY: (by Korrailli) Nov 3 2011 8:15pm
    Would this apply to atheists and agnostics as well? Since that would be saying they don't believe. As well as symbols of these like the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 4 2011 10:27am
    Yes it applies to those as well. If it's not regular classical mythology, then it needs to go. If it's mythology then it can remain as long as they don't say they "worship it." That part would need to go.

    Basically we don't allow players to worship anything on the game regardless of what it is. *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Nov 4 2011 1:01pm
    Thanks for the clarification :) Wasnt sure on one of those...As I did ask for a removal, I will talk to the player :) I have no problems admitting when I am wrong :) She was very understanding for the most part..and I did tell her If I was wrong I would absolutely apologize :) After all...this is also how we learn to become better mods :)

    Thanks again ;)
    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Nov 4 2011 5:11pm
    Ok, I did ask the player to contact admin if she felt it was ok, And I know she did, *laughing out loud!* My prooblem is, I DONT rememebr which player it was :( I thought I wrote the name down in notes but i didnt....Can you please, DP, let me know the players name so I CAN tell her I made a mistake? I can NOT for the life of me remember the username :( Thanks again.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 4 2011 7:13pm
    Um, DressageJumper? On Chestnut? I think... *laughing out loud!*

    I talked to her in support she should be ok with this. :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Reminder for making deals
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 6 2011 11:12am
    Please remember if you make a deal with another player, for example for a sub it Must be in PM. I have no idea to whom you are speaking if it's in buddy chat. I can't bring up buddy chat form more than 1 day or my computer won't load the page as if I try for an entire week I get ALL buddy chat that has happened on that server for then entire week.

    When players including moderators, make an agreement it Must be in PM so I can find the chat and so I know who is saying what to whom. *laughing out loud!*

    If you make deals in Buddy, I have no idea who said what to whom and who owes what to whom as there is no clear agreement. :(
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Re: Players using real names
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 15 2011 12:01pm
    When working with real names in profiles, it's not a big deal if the player has a first name. If they say it's their real name, then they need to remove that part, otherwise just ignore it. Also, please don't tell players we do things that we don't do. Such as telling them we check to see if it's a real name. That sort of makes us sound like stalkers! *laughing out loud!* We have no way of knowing if a name is real or not. We do get strict with last names, but first names can't be traced so not a big deal.

    Thankies :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 15 2011 2:40pm
    The rules are there to protect the players, however some are more heavily enforced than others. The object is to make this a safe but also fun place for all to play. So, if they state "My real name is Connie." Then it needs to be changed to: "My name is Connie," or "Call me Connie" Players can't be traced with a first name. If they give a last name, then that must go for their safety. Basically the name issue is to prevent the players from giving their entire name out to others. The younger children and the older players seem to think it's fine to give out all personal and private info. The young ones don't understand the danger, and the older ones think they are old enough to not need to be protected.

    Neither of those has any true concept of the possible danger. We don't wish to scare them either, so sharing real names is out. That said, firsts names can't be traced to a person, umpteen hundred thousand or million have that as a first name somewhere... *laughing out loud!* :)

    We made the rules to be there if/when needed as the players so fuss if it's not specifically stated in the rules. However, some things can be bent, or don't really qualify so are rather ignored. The rules are not meant to be black and white, but to be used as a guideline as to what may and may not be done. Each and every instance is taken separately for rules being broken. (Well mostly, some things are pretty set but not many. *laughing out loud!*)

    To help figure out if something is ok or not, think about why the rule is there...to protect players ok, so if what they are doing isn't dangerous, then it probably isn't a big deal.

    To make this a safe place for all to play: if it's not unsafe, then it's probably ok.

    To make this a fun place: If it's not actually harassment, bullying, bad language, content, behavior, then ignore or try to just move into private chat instead of public chat.

    We want the players to have fun. We also want them to be safe. Sometimes this becomes a bit difficult, but that is the goal. :)

    If players feel too repressed they will leave. If they feel the game is too massively strict they will leave. So we try to hit a happy medium and allow things if/when possible. Only block things that are bad or should not be on the game.

    Hope that makes sense. Sometimes it's sort of like walking a tightrope, the left side has a net, the right side doesn't. :S *laughing out loud!*
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Marriage between players?
    REPLY: (by Alyeska) Nov 25 2011 8:05am
    I know I've seen posted somewhere that marriage between players is not allowed. Horses ok, but not players. So I'm asking if someone who does remember where it's posted?
    I don't want to report this player for no reason. But they need to be aware if this is not allowed.
    Thanks. Aley Cremello
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Nov 25 2011 8:57am
    It basically falls under the no dating rule, Aley.
    REPLY: (by Azkadellia) Nov 25 2011 9:02am
    If players are married in real life, I believe they are allowed to simply state "Im married to (Playername)". But other than that no more details. But if they aren't really married then they can't say it, its the no dating rule Elanor mentioned.
    REPLY: (by ThisMagicMoment) Nov 25 2011 10:03am
    Aley, Here is a response I got from the lovely DP a long time ago when I asked about players owning others, as well as marriages.

    "It can be pretty freaky if a young player just logs onto a family non-violent, no dating game to see players marrying others, eating/licking others, buying/selling others. Not good. For this reason, “marriages” between players are not allowed."
    REPLY: (by ThisMagicMoment) Nov 25 2011 10:04am
    Here's the whole shaboodle - Just sent the part about marrying. But here was everything, in case it answers any future questions :o)

    "Owning a player is considered slavery. Slavery is out totally in any and all forms. No buying, selling, owning others. It can be pretty freaky if a young player just logs onto a family non-violent, no dating game to see players marrying others, eating/licking others, buying/selling others."
    REPLY: (by Alyeska) Nov 25 2011 11:53am
    Hmm ok thanks everyone. So I should report next time it's mentioned? It's actually a bud. -frowns- Just want to right in how I handle it next time it comes up. ^_^
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Nov 25 2011 11:55am
    Yea some of my buds used to do that, I told them it wasn't allowed and they kicked up a fuss. :D But yea if you don't feel you can mention it you can just report.
    REPLY: (by Azkadellia) Nov 25 2011 2:02pm
    There's another thread called something like: "What is and isnt allowed in profiles" down the list in Mod Forum where it was explained before.

    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Oct 24 2011 9:46am
    On the game relationships/families etc we were told were not allowed.
    In real life instances regarding spouses they may say so n so (player names only) is my real life hubby/wife.. I would assume same would go for bf/gf as long as they don't get into details about their relationship.

    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 24 2011 10:20am
    Yep, what Froggy said. :)
    REPLY: (by Alyeska) Nov 26 2011 6:49pm
    Ok thanks everyone.
    I've personally PMd the ones doing it and asked them to stop.
    Some have, one is being stubborn, so will report the next time they do........
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Breeding issues and a few others
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 4 2012 7:06pm
    Since this is a family game and we do indeed have young children who play, this is a touchy topic.

    Needs to be kept G rated at all times. So, some contexts will be ok, and others won't be. Rather depends on how it's used.

    OK uses
    "I breed cats/dogs/horses in real life"
    {This is not graphic or "adult" it's just stating a fact.}

    "I have a stud for sale" (IN game only)
    {Stud is the same as stallion and if a player asks what a stud is in this context just say it's another word for stallion.}

    Not ok:
    "I have a stud farm"
    {Possibly ok, however that brings into focus breeding issues so it's best if they just say they "breed" horses. What I'm trying to stay away from is the graphic part and they usually don't say "I have a stallion farm." *laughing out loud!* Stud (in this context) goes directly to male horse used for breeding. The Breeding Farm is a general term to say they raise horses. If that makes sense :S General is ok, specific isn't}

    This also applies to role playing. They may be general as in their horses may marry and have foals, so FoalOne is daughter to MareA type of thing. Now if they get into birthing that is out. If they get into real people that is out. No dating between people.

    If they just say they have a boyfriend or girlfriend in real life or who also plays on this game that's ok. No on-game dating however and no looking for a date on the game.

    If they say they watch a TV show it's fine as long as the show is ok for young kids or at least the content of the chat is ok for young kids. If it starts flooding the chat for more than a few minutes, should probably be moved to buddy, here or pm so it doesn't bug others.

    What we need to watch for is the actual content, is it ok for young kids to see that. Innuendo goes over the young ones heads but still isn't ok. *laughing out loud!* So global, isle, near should be G rated and ok for kids to see. Some topics have both aspects, the base topic is ok but the more advanced part isn't. They may still chat about the ok part, just not travel to far with it. *laughing out loud!*

    We ask that Celebrity's be keep out of public chat because so many players are so intense about them. I don't know what happened to like an dislike but now it's hate and want to harm, or love and want to harm those who hate... Thus fights start. :(

    While the game content is aimed at ages 8 and up, younger kids also are welcome to play and many are advanced readers who can read and understand a lot.

    General discussion of something is usually ok (at least for some topics,) graphic or focused discussion might not be. That's where the difference lies.

    Just saying "my dog had puppies, or my family breeds Beagles" is fine. Talking about a stud farm takes it into more focused areas where the kids are more likely to ask questions we don't want them to ask. Such as: What is a stud used for? How do you breed horses? Frequently it's the way it's stated. It's a technical line and a fine one sometimes. I would suggest just trying to get the player to change for example "stud" to something like "I/we raise horses," Or I/we breed horses." Most of the kids don't think twice about something phrased in that way.

    Kids respond to certain context's differently. If you keep their mind on the usually/standard tract all is good. If you toss in unusual/unfamiliar words that brings up questions we don't wish to deal with on this game. Many players know nothing about real horses, they frequently don't even know if a mare is a female or male. *laughing out loud!* So when players toss out "stud farm" young ones think: What is that? What does a stud do? What is a stud farm?

    Saying "Breeding Farm" tells the kids that the person raises horses and they usually don't pay much attention to it. They have already heard the word breed or breeding in regards to kitties or puppies normally.

    Hope this helps :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Clarification needed about competions
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Mar 8 2012 10:45am
    The detailed rules state that you cannot pay people to win, lose, or place in a competition.

    However, there isn't anything that says they can't pay people simply to enter. What the players on Palomino want to know is - is this allowed?

    A few players are saying that another mod told them it is okay. I do not feel comfortable telling them that it is okay when it may not be.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 8 2012 11:03am
    They may pay others to enter as long as they pay ALL who enter. That way it's fair. :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Clarify Datespeak Vs. Romance
    REPLY: (by Continuum) Mar 9 2012 8:58am
    Okay, could you give me a little explanation here. I've had a few people who have gotten upset lately that another mod has told them something was "datespeak" and I can't even figure out what's wrong with it.

    I was under the impression datespeak was asking for a boyfriend/girlfriend, advertising yourself as "hot" or any of that stuff.

    I don't see how romantic poems and songs (as long as they aren't graphic) are date speak?

    Magic DesertPaint explanation please?

    So I guess, clarification.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 9 2012 11:15am
    It's sort of a fine line.

    What isn't allowed is dating...
    Date speak, looking for a boyfriend/girlfriend, and discussing dating.

    What is ok:
    A bit of romance is ok as long as it's not graphic, no dating in that. To say they have a boyfriend/girlfriend is fine. To say they did....isn't. To talk about how hot he/she is, is not ok.

    So if it actually goes into dating or date speak then it needs to go.

    Most lyrics are not ok for this game, they go too far. However if there are some that just mention romance in passing (givings red rose, or something like that) then it's ok.

    We don't want graphic, detailed content as the younger players either get the wrong impression or something. Young kids don't always understand concepts, everything is whatever is said. So we need to be sure the content and "innuendo" is ok for young children.

    For the most part this is a judgement call by the moderators. If uncertain, please ask. :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Re: Removing profiles
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 23 2012 7:20pm
    Please do try to PM the player and request that person alter or remove their profile before you do so. Even if they have re-posted stuff. Well, if it's going on 3 or 4 times, that's a bit different, but the first and second times, please do pm them.

    If it's super bad, or if the entire profile is bad that's different, but if it's just one word or it's not massively bad, please do ask the player to alter/remove it themselves.

    I know it's a pain sometimes, but it saves a lot of "Mod hatred." Down the road, for some of the players anyway. *laughing out loud!* :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 24 2012 11:12am
    If they re-post the profile, then for the first re-post: If it's immediate, remove without warning. If it's been a day or two... ask again then remove if needed. Please remind them that the profile will continue to be removed because it violates the games rules. So to please not put it back. If, after that they re-post, just remove. When I see repeat profiles being removed they get double points. So they will add up. *sigh*

    You can always tell them to Google COPPA Federal laws and regulations for some of the profiles, that usually gets them as they realize it's not just this game being picky. It's that we have to follow Federal laws and regulations.

    COPPA: Children's Online Privacy Protection Agency. It's Federal and is under/associated with the Federal Trade Commission (FTC.) The FTC is what regulates online gaming.
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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 31 2012 2:24pm
    This is a little help/how to for some situations, and some reminders. :)

    1) Please be patient, this is just a game. We are not the parents of these kids, we are not here to "make" then behave as we would our kids. We are not the police, only players who are also moderators and here to enforce the rules. Please use as little "enforcement" as possible. The object is not to anger the players, it's to keep the peace on the game. The more punishment you give, the more ticked off the players will become. So when possible, please give as little punishment as is feasible.

    2) Try to keep with the mutes as short as possible. As in 5 minutes = begging, ads chat...minor issues. If they continue then do 10, 15, 20, 30, 45, 60. Do Not go over 60. Tomorrow is another day, begin all over. If after 2 weeks they are still not using for example ads chat then give 1 warning then a 30 minute mute, then 60.
    Swearing: 10 minutes, if it's really bad such as the f word and b word then 20. See what they do, if they pm you with nasty stuff you have a troll, ban or if not possible do 2880 mute. Otherwise if it's a regular player and is being nasty try to stay with short mutes and Do Not play into it. Ignore, mute if needed. Increase mutes by 10 to 15 minutes. You will be surprised at how fast they start getting the picture.

    3) Since it's against the rules to threaten others please be careful with how you word things. Telling a player for example: "If you don't use ads chat I will be forced to mute you." Is technically threatening the player. Just tell them it's against the rules to not place advertisements in ads chat or classifieds, give them a couple of warnings then do a warn mute. They will get it. My speel is: "Please use ads chat for all advertisements so it doesn't flood area chat, thanks. /$" Then after the mute: "You have been muted for not using ads chat, please use ads chat for advertising, thanks. /$"

    4) If possible defer chat instead of just muting. Such as: "What type of pets do you have? I have a ninja kitty." Let them run with this it will drown out the problem player who is seeking attention and driving others nuts.

    5) Please be polite, even if the player isn't. Try to ignore bad attitude/language and be polite. Treat them as you want them to behave, do not respond to how they are actually behaving. If you want the player to be nice, be nice to the player. If you want the player to respect you, you must respect them. Not always easy this, and doesn't always work, but quite a bit of the time it does work. Although it might take a bit...

    6) Try to never give the player a reason to "hate" you. If you are fair, nice, polite and patient they will learn this, they will respect you and will not give you such a bad time. That said, don't be drawn into arguments or debates. Many players deliberately pick topics to argue or debate with the mod on just for their personal entertainment. Don't get drawn into this. Give one or two explanations then ignore the player. If that doesn't work try: "If you disagree with the rules or still do not understand them please contact support and an administrator can explain it to you." Or "If you do not understand the rules please have a parent or guardian help you with them." Then personally mute the player if you need to, or just ignore them. Do Not Argue/Debate with them. Do not let them "Jerk" you around. You lose their respect by doing this. While a few may have comprehension issues, that is not something you as a moderator have to deal with. Players need to learn in the real world how to understand content. If they are not capable of doing so then they need to learn to follow the rules regardless of whether they agree with them.

    7) Remember these are children. Some have hands on parents, some don't. Some are nice, some are not. Some are adults who are acting like 2 year olds and having massive tantrums. Try to not give them more reason to tantrum by being rude or "curt" with them. Don't over mute. Try patience, kindness and fairness.

    8) If you aren't sure what to say you may use these:
    "Please do not beg/ask for free things. There are many ways to earn money: quests, mini-games, find things and sell them. Thanks"
    "Please do not spam/flood chat it blocks others from being heard. Thanks"
    "Please use ads chat for all advertisements so it doesn't flood chat. Thanks /$
    "Topic is not appropriate for this family game please drop it at this time, thanks."
    "Topic is not appropriate for public chat, please move it to private chat, thanks."
    "Drop the topic now please."
    "Drop It Now!" Then begin mutes if needed.
    "When speaking to only one person please use PM so it doesn't flood area chat, thanks. /PlayerName"
    "Please do not advertise for others only for yourself. Thanks"
    "Please do not advertise for others you can't sell what you do not have. Thanks"
    "Please play nicely."
    "Please play nicely, this is a family game, thanks."
    "Please move topic to private chat thanks -->"
    "Please watch language/content. This is a family game, thanks."
    "Check out Then New Player Guide (link at bottom of game page,) super helpful with how to play."
    "Link to rules at bottom of web page. *nods*"

    9) While we hold players responsible for knowing and following the rules we must also realize very, very few know the rules. Thus we can't expect them to follow what they don't know. We can't make them read though 1/2 an hour of rules. These are kids, many are hyper. Not going to happen. Expect them to have no idea how to play, no idea what the rules are. So remind/teach them briefly then enforce only what is necessary. Ship them to support issues if needed. If they insist on fussing about rules then send them to me. You don't have to deal with the fuss. :)

    Hands out chocolate to all who actually made it this far. :)

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    If you have questions or aren't sure how to handle things please ask here or contact support and as for Connie.

    Hard line: Players are leaving the game do to over moderating and things not always being handled correctly. Players feel targeted, and feel that they are being set up by moderators to get violations. While I am totally aware this is not the case, we need to re-phrase things perhaps or try to be a bit more polite and lenient if at all possible. :)
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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 30 2012 12:03pm
    This is from Miranda:

    If you have the time and patience to lend an ear to allow the player to vent or talk about problems, since sometimes that's all they need, ok. However, to not try to take any sort of "counselor" position. Not really offer advice other than to give information about help sites and help hotlines, etc.

    From BrightLights but edited a very tiny bit:

    So, something like: "Is there something I can do? If you are feeling alone, or you feel that things are hopeless, I can help you to get in touch with someone who can help you."

    "However, I need to let you know that I am also worried that hearing
    about people harming themselves is going to trigger someone else and
    leave them in a bad state. I would like to be able to help you if you
    want to talk in PM. But if this keeps being discussed in area, I will
    have to mute you temporarily."

    This is basically for suicide talk, can also be for any other type of self-harm that you encounter.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Please do not ban players for multiple accounts
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 6 2012 4:19pm
    Please just file an abuse report on the player and give the suspected username of the other person. Sometimes it's just sharing accounts, or an old account or something and it's not a multiple. Even when the player states they have another account sometimes they are talking about HI2, or an old account that has timed out. Their might be another player who has since taken that username, but may not actually be a multiple, lots of different things.

    Even if they are sharing accounts, please let us do the banning. It's their account and they chose to share it, so if they lose something it's their problem. Hard line yes, but necessary as they refuse to listen and follow the rules. Sometimes the other person is only sitting beside them so not a big deal.

    Plus we need to send them a message immediately that they receive the ban so they can see it.

    When mods ban it bans the IP, this also blocks siblings from being able to play sometimes.

    Please let NightMare or myself do the bans for these. :)

    Thankies
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 8 2012 10:58am
    If they state it's a multiple account, yes you may mute. Or if they say they are a different person on the account, then that too is mutable, just not ban-able since sometimes they are goofing around or the other person is sitting right beside them. :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Players gifting subs please check out:
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 9 2012 1:24pm
    Players may Only sell subs or PO's on a server they are currently subscribed to. They may sell them for any server as they are gifted, however to advertise selling them they must be subscribed to the server where they are advertising.

    So, if a player is currently subscribed on lets say Black server, that person may sell subs and po's on Black server to be gifted to any server.

    If they are not subscribed on Black server then that person may not sell subs or po's on Black server.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Lenient modding please
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 19 2012 1:28pm
    Lets try to back off a bit from the strict modding.

    Let them have as much freedom as is possible. Obviously nasty stuff, slander, inappropriate content...that type of thing needs to stay off the game.

    But, unless it goes into that ignore them. Let them joke around, play around just re-direct if it heads into the wrong area.

    For ads, as long as they are following the 1 post every 2 minutes ignore it. Even if that is all that is on the screen. The object is not to flood others chat off the screen, thus the 2 minute thing. But if no one else is chatting, eh...no big deal. So if they do the every 2 minutes it's fine.

    Try to be as invisible as possible as a moderator and let them play. It's fine to join into chat and play with them, but in the mod role, try to be as inconspicuous as possible and as lenient as possible. :)

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    REPLY: (by Miranda) Aug 25 2012 3:26pm
    Just so people know, the removing of the jumping scores that are bugged out has nothing to do with a reset. It's basically whenever I think about it and go in and remove them. It typically happens around resets because that's when I go into the Bugs Forum to check for bugs to fix before the reset. However, telling people that a reset "fixes" the bugged out scores is incorrect.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Telling players they may "stay/return"
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 24 2013 11:53am
    Please be careful and do not tell players they won't be banned or will be banned. Even if all you see is an inappropriate username, as you do not have access to the players private chat, sometimes that chat is grossly inappropriate thus resulting in a permanent ban.

    Many players with inappropriate usernames usually only join to cause trouble = jerk mods around and see how vulgar and gross they can be before they get banned. Some may keep it out of public chat, some don't.

    So for example, when they have a bad name, and you tell them to contact us and get their name changed then they can come back on. That is not always correct. Many times they are permanently banned.

    They may contact us for a name change and if that's the only thing wrong with the account, depending on the name we will change it and then they may return. But if there is inappropriate content/behavior/language they are permanently off for joining to cause trouble.

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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: New MMRB
    REPLY: (by Miranda) Apr 16 2013 10:51am
    Piper has been kind enough to put all the quests together and update the MMRB. It's been quite a while since we had an updated version, so if anyone would like it, post a message here and I'll mail it out.

    Once I send it I'll delete your post so I know I've already sent it. If you didn't get it and I deleted your post, please mail me directly as it's possible I have an old address for you.
    REPLY: (by Piper) Apr 26 2014 11:20am
    Shot off a newer updated copy to Miranda with the new quest notes added to it, Appleton Riddles and answers, along with Isle Directions
    Enjoy!
    Pip
    REPLY: (by Miranda) Jul 3 2014 7:03pm
    Updated MMRB sent to those that requested it. I have deleted the old posts to help prevent confusion. If you would like it, please post here and DesertPaint will let me know. :)
    REPLY: (by Piper) Aug 12 2014 2:35pm
    You bet! if some of the newer quests aren't in MMRB they are posted in mod forum, so just add the ones that aren't in there and you'll be caught up then!
    REPLY: (by Miranda) May 3 2015 7:35pm
    I've deleted everyone's post that I sent the new MMRB to. If you would still like to receive it, or did not receive it yet, please post here.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Selling horses/items for real money
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 13 2013 12:33pm
    I'm getting reports in mail that players are selling HI horses for real money. This obviously it totally against the rules as it not only entails sharing personal info but it also breaks copyright laws.

    Players may not sell for profit what they don't own.

    Please keep an eye out for this and file an abuse report immediately if you see or suspect this is happening.

    Most of it is being carried out on face so I am having a problem knowing what is happening. The snippets of chat I see don't make any sense. *laughing out loud!*

    Plus one of the players accused has a name that also matches a game name/word. So trying to load that players chat is just not going to happen, would take me hours to go though just one day. I need to be able to have another search word to go with it such as another players name who is selling the horse or something.

    I've run all the key words I can think of and come up with zip.

    If any of you stumble on something like this on the chat message place, please copy/paste that chat and send it to our mail. support at horseisle dot com

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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: HI Ads
    REPLY: (by Piper) May 17 2013 9:40pm
    Anyone remember these HI ads? I had copied and saved them from some years ago, and thought you all might like to use them on HI once again!

    Mods Getting Twitchy? Making Funny Faces? Try Putting Ads In Ads Chat, And Following All The Rules!! Try It, You'll Like It!

    Looking For A Horse To Buy? Check Out The Ads Chat And Buy The Horse Of Your Dreams Today!

    Need To Sell Your Horses,Items? Try The New Ads Chat With Cool Purple Lettering And Get Your Ads Noticed Try It Today!

    Hard To Find Residents? Check Out The Horse Isle Community Libraries And Find Those Pesky Residents!

    Stumble Across A Wild Horse And Don't Know What To Do? Click On The Capture And Rope That Horsie In!

    Need Help With Pesky Riddles? Get Some Help By Asking For Help In PM's! Help Will Come

    Mods pulling their hair out? Lets try using ad chat and following the rules so they can keep their hair:)

    Please Put All Ads In Ads Chat. This Includes: Buying, Selling, Trading, Auctioning, Wanted ,Needed Items And Contests. Thanks!

    Please Put All Ads In Ads Chat. This Includes: Buying, Selling, Trading, Auctioning, Wanted ,Needed Items, Releasing Horses , Announcing Wilds & Contests.

    Got something to sell? Want to buy? Place in ads chat and give it a try!

    If you want to sell you horse, list it in ads chat of course!

    No one buying what you are selling? Try using ads chat and make it compelling!

    Got something to sell or want something cool? Please use ads chat - it's a Horse Isle rule

    Selling this, trading that? Advertise it in ads chat!

    No one listening? No one buying? Try Ads Chat and keep on Trying!

    Looking for that special horse? Try ads chat and go with the force!


    Hope you enjoyed it! Pip!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 17 2013 9:44pm
    Thanks Piper!

    I lost these when my old computer's motherboard gave it up.

    Here is another one I did the other day:

    Pretty Purple Classifieds are the way to go, get your ads out to show!

    *laughing out loud!* Yeah, it was a bit late...
    REPLY: (by Alyeska) May 18 2013 2:43pm
    Oh love these. Thanks Ripper!
    -hugs-
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by UnmindfulFlipper) Jul 4 2013 5:10am
    I don't know why these keep getting deleted! some are priceless.

    Player: Mercedes has disconnected..Benz has logged in... Mercedes-Benz xD
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Jul 4 2013 9:17am
    I have to wonder if that's a double account.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 4 2013 11:03am
    *laughing out loud!*

    And for the record, no connection between the players. :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 4 2013 11:36am
    This was the sole content of a support mail:

    Note: I had to translate it as well since it was sent in Czech.

    "I'm not writing to Google."

    Um, ok... that's fine with me...

    I just have one question, why do I need to know this? *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 6 2013 4:52pm
    From today's support mail:


    "Please un-ban this IP."

    Er, what is the IP? Who are you? Which game is this for?

    We really need to hire a psychic to do the support mail. *laughing out loud!*
    ---

    "Hi, it's me again, I forgot my username and mail, can you tell me who I am?"

    Actually no, I have no idea. >.< *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Jul 6 2013 7:16pm
    *rolling on floor laughing!* those are hilarious, DP!
    REPLY: (by UnmindfulFlipper) Jul 7 2013 5:32am
    Actually DP, if you could remind me who I am from time to time it would be a great help! *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by PoisonIvy) Jul 8 2013 8:26am
    A player PMed me today on Pinto,
    Player: do you know who does the voice acting for all the socials and stuff? c:
    Me: o.O No sorry!
    Player: aah ok. a bud and i were wondering cx do you know where we could possibly find out? c:

    ahahaa!!! I think i should of told them it was DP ;)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 8 2013 11:11am
    *rolling on floor laughing!*
    REPLY: (by PoisonIvy) Jul 9 2013 7:10am
    PoisonIvy: selling 27hh tb's / ID 2.4kexp 17hh ++ others [21 listening]

    PoisonIvy: O.o not 27hh tbs *laughing out loud!

    Falconine: Is it a bird, is it a plane? No, it's Ivy on her 27hh TB! Imagine one of those in the Grand National..

    Falconine: More like Hang on, I'll be with you after these 3 flights of stairs..

    Falconine: Ahahah the world is plunged into econic decline as a global food shortage is announced due to the 27hh foal moving on to hard feed.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 10 2013 12:30pm
    Player did not give a security question answer, so birth date listed was requested. Note: the answer is totally not correct, but... wow! I guess it explains why there is no security question answer...

    Birth date: July 29, 2013.

    O.O
    REPLY: (by PoisonIvy) Jul 10 2013 12:44pm
    HAHAA!!! DP how do you cope :') hahaaa this has made my day!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 10 2013 7:14pm
    I asked a player in mail to tell me what her sign up email was. Here is the answer:

    "It was this mail before I changed it."

    Um, ok... o.O
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jul 12 2013 6:25pm
    *rolling on floor laughing!* oh DP you do get some doozies out there don't ya!
    Sounds like some of them do have their "blonde" moments!
    *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Jul 12 2013 8:53pm
    Brand new player on Welcome Isle: "I'm on Welcome Isle. Can someone whisper horses to see if any are on welcome isle?"

    ...It's small enough you can just grid it. *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 17 2013 12:36pm
    Mail sent in from a permanently banned player who has been told over and over for the last several months that he may Not play and why:

    "how am i supposed to play if you ban every account?"

    Well, duh. *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by Piper) Aug 9 2013 9:47pm
    These are too funny!
    REPLY: (by UnmindfulFlipper) Sep 8 2013 10:53pm
    Okay have to post this because I think it was clever! pats himself! *laughing out loud!*

    player: same and i'm meant to be resting because im sick....
    player: oh well :)
    player 2: haha same here 7
    UnmindfulFlipper: player: same and i'm meant to be resting because im sick....player: oh well :) The "oh well" was a pun, right?
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: paying to enter jumping
    REPLY: (by JerseyHotblood) Jul 4 2013 12:26pm
    Just a quick question. When players offer to pay others to enter jumping....I know its okay if they pay every player. My questions is are they allowed to advertise they are only paying if jumping is full?!?!?! Some players may only enter for the payment but then don't get if there are only 3 players that enter. Hoping this makes sense, *laughing out loud!* have actually been curious on this one for awhile. Figured I would finally ask, *laughing out loud!* And I hope you are all enjoying the 4th of july <3
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 4 2013 4:34pm
    Yes, they may only pay if jumping is full. As long as they pay all who enter. :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Quest corrections
    REPLY: (by Piper) Aug 11 2013 8:00pm
    Here are some quest corrections so please do make them in your MMRB. Thanks!

    In Oberon’s Midsummer Celebration quest,
    when you go to Gretel on Cloud Isle she will ask you for 6 Moonbeams (not 5) as listed in MMRB. The 6 sparkling feathers is correct so please do correct the one for the moonbeams.

    The "play for Dixie" is not correct. the correct play is "1324354657688675645342311"

    For Dominique's Child Tally's Lost Teddy Bear The rock pile you stand on is Northeast of the big rock, not Northwest. :)

    The reward for the first Mystic Forest Maze should be 8 diamonds not 4. I did it on a server, and that's what it showed for the reward info. If it's wrong in your MMRB, please correct it.

    In Bruno's Special Delivery quest, it says to deliver a bushel off apples to Allaire in Tail Forest. That should be Mystic Forest on Saddle Isle. Sorry I didn't notice that earlier. Please make the changes to your MMRB.

    Update For Gina's Scavenger Hunt quest

    Please update the info in your MMRB's
    I know it lists an earthworm as one of the items to give to her, when you should really give her the skinny branch instead, so please do update that.
    REPLY: (by Piper) Aug 24 2013 5:49pm
    Shastri and Sammy's quest notes

    Shastri and Sammy ( Vine Isle):
    You Need: Nothing
    Shastri tells you she lost her Auntie Esther's cat, Samantha or Sammy. Use your magnifying glass here. You see a tuft of fur on the bark of the tree, Samantha passed this way! Keep looking, she's around here somewhere. You found some fur, keep looking for more. From there, take two steps east and then one down (off your horse).
    Then go 5 steps to the right and 1 step up (north). The 3rd clue will read: You found another clue, Samantha should be around here somewhere! And the forth is the 2nd picture on here. It will read: You call to her and she wakes, stretches, and jumps up on your saddle.
    You found Samantha! Better find Shastri. Now go to Shastri.
    Reward 10 Pearls and 100 QP
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Elvis' Senior Citizen Song
    REPLY: (by Piper) Sep 2 2013 11:39am
    Are you lonesome tonight, does your tummy feel tight? Did you bring your Mylanta and Tums? Does your memory stray, to that bright sunny day...When you had all your teeth and your gums? Is your hairline receeding, are your eye growing dim? Hysterectomy for her and ist's prostrate for him. Does you back give you pain..do your knees predict rain? Tell me dear are you lonesome tonight?
    Is your blood pressure up, your cholesteol down? Are you eating your low-fat cuisine?
    All that oat-bran and fruit, Metamucil to boot, keeps you like a well-oiled machine. If it's football or baseball..he sure knows the score.
    Yes, he know's where it's at...but forget's what it's for. So, your gallbladder's gone, and his gout lingers on. Tell me dear are you lonesome tonight?

    When your hungry, he's not. When your cold then he's hot. Then you start that old thermostat war. When you turn out the light, He goes left, you go right. Then you get his great symphonic snore. He was once so romantic, and witty and smart. How'd he turn out to be such a cranky old toot So daon't take any bets, this is as good as is gets. Tell me dear are you lonesome tonight?
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: A Comfortable Sleep for Bess notes
    REPLY: (by Piper) Sep 18 2013 7:09pm
    Bess is the Harbormistress for Starfish Isle and she wants a nice feather pillow. She doesn't want a big pillow, a small one will do just fine, but it has to be water-proof. Go talk to Barb Sower on Turtle. She'll tell you to get some parafin from the general store and some beeswax from Evelynn on Bird Isle. Barb will also need 50 black feathers to make the pillow. Bring all of it to Barb and she will make you the pillow for no charge. Take the pillow back to Bess.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Clans Repost DP
    REPLY: (by NightMare) Sep 20 2013 10:28am
    There still seems to be a bit of confusion regarding clans and such, what players may and may not have...

    They may:
    Have packs, clubs, troops, camps or whatever as long as it's not a clan, herd or gang.
    Have club/pack... descriptions in profiles as long as there is no word saying "clan." If they want to say medicine cat is ___ and a description, or starpaw is the mate to stripedclaw, it's ok.
    If they want to list all of the members of the club, troop, pack whatever it is, that's ok.
    They may RP Warrior Cats if they wish as long as it's "tweaked" to comply with the no violence, no harassment/bulling of others, no territories.

    They may not:
    Have clan in the profile, such as Thunderclan or Starclan.
    They may not say: area is south part of Horse Isle, or Haven isle... = Territories. They may not claim ponds as theirs, they may not fight, or harass/bully others. They may not use public chat (only chat here, buddy or pm.)

    Hope this helps. If you have questions feel free to ask, I will try to answer as quickly as possible
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Contests Repost DP
    REPLY: (by NightMare) Sep 20 2013 10:29am
    Please remember to not be too overly strict with the players, they for the most part, are kids. As long as the content is ok, there is no entry fee and it's in the proper
    Players may have contests, they may give prizes they may basically do whatever they wish as long as there is No entry fee.

    If they don't give out prizes, others may file reports if they wish, but basically it's no big deal since nothing was lost by other players, so no scamming. As long as they advertise in ads chat, and then keep the contest in chat here, buddy or pm, it's fine.

    We do not need to monitor these, if players have a problem with a contest, just have them file an abuse report.

    Same thing with releasing, they can release a horse if they want to. They may have releasing parties if they wish, as long as they are not advertised and they keep them in chat here, buddy or pm only then fine. They may not require others to release, no fees... other than that, they may do whatever they wish with the release parties. If there are problems, the players may file abuse reports.

    And again, we don't need to monitor these, basically we shouldn't even know if there is a releasing party happeneing. *laughing out loud!* :S

    If players fuss about a contest or party, have them file a report and drop it. Mute if they don't drop it for 5 minutes or so...

    These are really not important. If they want to play around with contests or whatever they may. *laughing out loud!* :)
    chat channels, then basically ignore the contest. :)

    Basically we make sure the rules are followed, but not by being nitpicky or overly strict and ticking off the kids. *laughing out loud!* :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Religion Repost DP
    REPLY: (by NightMare) Sep 20 2013 10:30am
    What's out is mentioning religion itself. Holidays may be celebrated, Horse Isle has the snowman for the winter Holidays, chocolate bunny for the spring Holidays or Easter... We may celebrate the "Holiday" without becoming specific about it. It's ok to say happy Halloween, or Happy Christmas... Players may share in the holiday festivities without actually believing in the reason for the holiday if they wish. Or they can just mute global. *laughing out loud!*

    It's impossible to have a game with kids who are not going to be excited on holidays. Players may join or not as they choose. And we do have a Mr. and Mrs. Claus, elves, Jack O'Lantern, we help Grey Slate craft a menorah... :)

    We don't want player so say for example "I'm a Christian" or "I'm a unicornsist," or whatever... (just grabbed those off the top of my head as being the most common things I see in profiles.) Basically it isn't anyone else's business.

    I try to keep them from bringing up the religious aspect of the holiday, and keep it to candy, and trick or treating, parties... that type of thing. Same as with Christmas and Easter... It's happy Holliday! Celebrate the holiday season, not specifically the actual holiday or reason for the holiday itself, that they may do off game. :)

    Hopefully that makes sense. :S *laughing out loud!*

    I will try to hit the servers on Saturday and give marshmallows, rotten tomato's for throwing, and a spider to the kids for fun! They can sell them, drop them or whatever they want... *laughing out loud!*
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Google Repost DP
    REPLY: (by NightMare) Sep 20 2013 10:30am
    While we do tell players to use Google for Real Time Quiz's we don't wish them to use Google to find help sites, this is why:

    Some contain inappropriate content or links to such, some ask for personal info, some have hacker programs, or viruses.

    Please do remember to give the players a reason for not using the Google so they can understand why we don't want them to tell others to Google Help Sites. :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Mod Birthdays Updated
    REPLY: (by NightMare) Sep 22 2013 8:05pm
    January
    12- Continuum
    17- LadyNavigator

    February
    3- SpottedRose
    6- Miranda

    March
    18- Unmindfulflipper
    22- SeekerOfTheTruth
    29- AnnieOakley
    30- BoneGirl

    April
    1-Saharaflower
    27- Ponder

    May
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    17- DarkFaerie
    17- Korrailli
    24- FrogLips
    29- HomerSimpson
    30- KateMoney

    June
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    28- Linux

    July
    6- CometChaser
    15- CollieMom
    18- PegasusSpirit
    24- ZinksMom
    31- JerseyHotBlood

    August
    3- Piper
    4- AppleBay
    15- SouthPaw

    September
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    16- PlacidPaso
    16- OrbWeaver
    22- ThisMagicMoment
    26- MrFroggy
    30- OkamiFreak

    October
    4- Jimmynow
    15- Rustler

    November
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    26- NightMare
    26- SnappyDoodle
    26- Naginata
    27- Meritae
    27- Garney
    27- Joe

    December
    9- TwilightPixie
    11- SimpyFrog
    15- Rosela
    23- RednekMomma
    29- Everlend
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 24 2016 7:45pm
    Happy Birthday Wishes go out to DesertPaint, NightMare, SnappyDoodle, Naginata, Meritae, Garney and Joe.

    Happy Birthday Everyone! Celebrate it in style!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 14 2017 6:11pm
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Continuum and LadyNavigator!

    May your birthdays be great ones
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Chats Repost DP
    REPLY: (by NightMare) Sep 20 2013 10:39am
    1. Giveaways should go in ads chat as you are advertising something.

    2. Please use ads chat for advertising contests, discussing contests if needs to be in a chat other than chat here or pm. Also please post winners in ads chat.

    3. You may ask where an NPC is in global, and in any other chat.

    4. You may ask about quests/quest help in global or any other chat.

    5. Yes you may ask where food/tack...is in global or any other chat.
    REPLY: (by Piper) Sep 25 2013 9:11am
    Another reminder for players is to ask the NPC's for the passwords to Saddle and both of the Pirate isles. These passwords should not be posted in global, as they have gotten changed in the past for that reason.
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    REPLY: (by Piper) Oct 16 2013 6:48pm
    Hudson, Chesapeake, Equine Coloring. Bay

    It's small and sharp but a horse will wear it. Tack

    This brush isn't made out of a tasty dish. Curry

    In the desert sun I may look like gold and as a breed I'm very old. Akhal Teke

    It's at the beginning of steeplechase, at the end of rodeos, and within horses? What is it? S

    You may think it's a little corny, but I'm a pony and a horse! I can stand as low as 13.2 hands, but as high as 16, and that's a whale of a pony! Welsh Cob

    A Breed named after steep sided ocean inlets in Norway. Norwegian Fjord

    I'm not the breed used by the RCMP, but you might yell, "Oh, Canada!" when you see me! What am I? Canadian Horse

    The question with this gait is, can you or can't you? Canter

    "Stubborn as a ?" or "Kicks like a ?" Mule

    Buried Alive? I surely once was. Unburied I died. Should have been a 'Parrot', Then that horse wouldn't have done what it did to me. What was I? Carrot

    Because it's all ready. An equine of this coloring rarely needs to do any work. Dun

    If my mother was my father and my father was my mother, my name would be Hinny. Instead I joined the army and I'm a plain old ____. Mule

    This horse breed may live in Germany, perhaps in Hanover? Hanoverian

    You could paint this horse breed red, white and blue. American Paint

    A horse breed and a machine. What am I? Mustang

    This animal spelled backwards is a very common destination for girls. Llama

    Don't let my name scare you. I'm not angry, although I might be a little hungry! I love a good steeplechase and I'm fast in the harness. Furioso

    A type of shoe. Dogs like to chew some shoes, but not this. In fact, people like to play with this shoe when it's old more than dogs! Horseshoe

    If a king sits on gold, who sits on Silver? Lone Ranger

    This breed only throws half of what it's got. Haflinger

    A confusing equine coloring. Using either first or second alphabetical vowels. Better use 'e' for me. Grey

    It's monday. You ride into town on Tuesday. One day passes. What day is it? Tuesday

    What word has these in common: tack, shower and to restrain. Bridle

    I love oysters, saltines and the Sunshine State! What breed of horse am I? Florida Cracker

    This footwear is very lucky. Horseshoe

    My ears are my distinguishing mark. If they were charged up, you might see a spark! What breed am I? Kathiawari

    My hooves are striped but my body is not. I can run a great distance without getting hot. What breed am I? Appaloosa

    Take a horse, divide it in two, repeat. Resemble a breed? Quater Horse

    Justin's favorite horse is more than awesome, but what is its name? Morgan

    This equine coloring, mispronounced, suggests it is a friend
    of yours. Palomino

    This breed says this when left in very cold weather. I'm ____! Friesian

    What equine color is also part of a horse? Chestnut

    Name a breed that is from Kentucky, and is named after a piece of tack? Saddlebred

    This breed is no hobbit, though you might have thought it at first, until you saw one. Shire

    I may be stubborn but I'm always ready to listen. Mule

    My bloodlines are ancient. I was a warhorse for the Romans, a draft horse for medieval peasants, and a sure-footed, hard-wintering mountain horse for all of Austria. What am I?
    A: Noriker

    What has 4 hooves, 2 ears, and blends with a crowd? Zebra

    What has 1,000 eyes, 2,000 shoes and eats grass? 5oo Horses

    Do you get hungry when you hear my name? Many people do! But I am not a breakfast pastry. What am I? Danish Warmblood

    I was on my way to Treeton one day, when I met a girl with five horses. Each horse had five dogs, each dog had five cat friends, and each cat had five mice. All in all, how many were going to Treeton? 1

    I'm a souped-up horse with plenty of spirit. I'm a star jumper who really knows how to leap up from down under, and I come in every color - even Botany Bay! Australian Stock Horse

    This horse breed and waffles go well together. Belgian

    I don't think I'd like a nice Hawaiian one, but one from Suffolk might do. What breed am I? Suffolk Punch

    I like to give MORE! They crossed two great breeds to make me, and now I'm my own breed. What am I? Morab

    This colored equine must really enjoy beans. Pinto

    This sounds like the most important thing, it sits between two corn and lies above a double 'i'. Mane

    I don't pile up points, but I garner lots of praise! But please don't put wet dishes on me! What breed am I? Racking Horse

    Peanuts are named after the country this breed is from. Look hard. I'm no illusion. Andalusian

    You may receive this equine breed for valentines day, but smaller and it tastes like chocolate! Belgian

    Your friend always keeps water bottles in her backpack. What animal does this remind you of? Camel

    A meticulous loaf of wheat that is also an equine breed. Thoroughbred

    Name a breed that is from Kentucky, and is named after a piece of tack? Saddlebred

    I'm a breed from Central America...don't pass me by, and with an Italian accent I'm so fine! Paso Fino

    This tack isn't very happy. Saddle

    When mature this horse breed is white and don't give it any lip about it! Lipizzan

    Your horse is in a race. You are picking up speed and pass the horse that is in 2nd place. What place are you in now? 2nd

    I must be done by now. I've been domesticated for 4,000 years! I have a thick shaggy coat and love the snow, but I can jump and even do dressage. There's no way you won't love me. Norwegian Fjord

    This breed has a big heart but comes in a small package and is from the island it is named after. Shetland

    I'm ardent about drafting, and so I should be! I'm the oldest known draft breed and I fought with Napoleon. What breed am I? Ardennais

    Your horse might be fast but still, it cannot beat this in a race. While it might be smaller than your horse at noon, it can be quite larger at other times of the day. At night, you will have trouble finding it. Shadow

    What is an Equus Caballus? Horse

    An equine coloring and yet not a color. Without light, likely visible at night. White

    An equine coloring; high in the forest; an open fire. Chestnut

    Your horse might shout this, or shout for this. Hay

    What word has these in common: tack, shower and to restrain. Bridle

    Not only is this a salad dressing, you might find a horse here too! Ranch

    You are in a field with 3 horses, Babe, Bob, and Ben. Ben is standing on his back legs, Bob is standing on one more leg than Ben. Babe is standing normally. How many legs are touching the ground? 11

    What 9 letter horse breed starts with A and ends with A? Appaloosa

    I'm the "horse of the sea." My coat is white or grey like the sea foam, so bring your camera for a picture! Camargue

    No, I'm not made of French maize! I'm an old, proud breed. Norman Cob

    I'm a big, milky-white horse who's risen to the top in America. I can truly say I'm the top of the crop!
    What breed am I? American Cream Draft
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 10 2013 8:06am
    I am a horse robed in bright red gems! What am I? Kladruby
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 10 2013 8:16am
    There. In few words: what breed? Tersky
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Whisperer Stalkers?
    REPLY: (by Nova) Nov 8 2013 6:41am
    A player complained that another player was stalking her over and over again from the whisperer to the whispered horse and asked if it was against the rules.


    I did ask how they knew the other person didn't just whisper the same horse. They said it happened several times, so they finally went into the whisperer and just pretended to whisper, then came out and the stalker-person still followed them.

    I looked in the rules and forums, but was kind of in a hurry, and I didn't find anything that dealt with it.

    I told them to mute the person and to divert by going to their ranch, or whispering from a different isle than the main one. I also told them to file a report for stalking, just in case there was anything you could do about it.

    Handled correctly? Please advise. :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 8 2013 6:36pm
    The person who feels they are being stalked can file an abuse report on the "stalker" I can see when a player whispers, and I can see if they were charged 50k or only 10k... I can see boat logs so if the times match up and no whispering, then violations will be given.

    Sometimes there is indeed a duplicate whisper probably. If the other person is whispering and does get a hit, then I ignore the report. However...if no whispering took place, or no hit, then they do receive a violation for stalking and harassing another player.
    REPLY: (by Nova) Nov 8 2013 10:44pm
    Oh, that's really good to know! I'll let the person know. :)
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    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Dec 24 2013 9:17am
    Given the lowered player count, and the fact that there's rarely more than one moderator on at a time of late, it might be helpful to change the moderator commands so that you don't need TWO mods to ban someone. I cannot ban someone for severe rule breaking (inappropriate name, behavior, etc...) when I'm the only moderator online, and I don't know when another moderator might be available to coordinate the ban command.
    REPLY: (by Nova) Dec 24 2013 10:06am
    I second this, even though I understand why it takes two mods to ban, there are not enough mods and sometimes I just have to give an extended mute and hope the player gets bored and leaves.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 24 2013 1:32pm
    For HI1, it was felt that 2 mods were needed.

    I check on abuse reports and the mod forum fairly frequently. So will catch something if needed.

    You can also do a 2 day mute. That files an abuse report and is a huge flag that a play may need a ban. :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Cheating?
    REPLY: (by Ponder) Dec 27 2013 3:39pm
    Quite a few players have asked me recently if it's against the rules for players to "lag" in the simple jumping arenas to get better scores, and I'm not sure on the correct answer to this.
    Apparently there are a few players who "lag" (where they pull up other windows/tabs/downloads/etc to slow down jumping) in the simple jumping arenas which allows them to usually get better scores than they normally would, and also causes the score list to come out later than usual.
    I've told those who asked me that admins can't give vios for this unless they have actual proof (admitting it in chats, etc) that the person is doing this on purpose and it's not just because of a slow computer.
    So, does "lagging" count as cheating, and if so, is it reportable?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 27 2013 4:08pm
    It's not against the rules. It's not nice, but it's not something we can prove thus it's allowed.

    Even if the player admits to it in chat, it's not against the rules. The other players can lag themselves to get better scores if they wish to. If it kicks them out try Witherton.

    Sorry, I realize that's not quite fair, but we can't block lag.
    REPLY: (by Ponder) Dec 27 2013 4:48pm
    Ahh, that's what I figured. Thanks!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Does anyone remember this story?
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 7 2014 6:22pm
    UnmindfulFlipper wrote the following story a few years ago:

    The story you are about to read was written by UNMINDFULFLIPPER and it should be known that all of the material was greatly researched as he wants to be known as a SEEKEROFTHETRUTH. As you PONDER the events I hope it brings you great interest and enjoyment. Though it may seem like a CELTICLEGEND it did not even happen in that part of the world.


    It was a dark and stormy night! Hmm well, anyway it was, but this was rather earlier in the evening. The sun was just going down on APPLEBAY and it was during THISMAGICMOMENT that a DARKFAERIE on a mission of ill will SPOTTEDROSE who was minding her own business and studying the sky, as she has always been a COMETCHASER. Whispering a comment of “Now, isn’t she just the CATSMEOW, she burst upon poor Rose without warning and the demon used one of her favorite spells and gave her FROGLIPS. This did nothing to improve the poor girls looks and in fact made her resemble a cross between a SIMPYFROG and HOMERSIMPSON!

    In the TWILIGHTPIXIE saw what had transpired and was devastated. Pixie is a LADYNAVIGATOR for the harbor patrol and she put her small vessel in high gear and rushed towards the beach where the terrified child was gazing into the water wondering what she had done to deserve this treatment. She had always pictured herself as being cute like KORRAILLI the bunny, so it was quite upsetting to see MRFROGGY staring back at her. She had never been a OKAMIFREAK but there it was, all of those strange pictures dancing in her head, After a few moments of bewilderment, the tragedy struck her with full impact and ROSELAid down in the sand and began to sob.

    Knowing this CONTINUUM of events could break the PEGASUSSPIRIT of the child, Pixie knew she had to do something and do it quickly. She roared up to the beach and grounded the bow of the boat in the sand, jumped out and gathered up the girl as quickly as possible and hoisted her aboard the launch. (As a side note I must emphasize “as quickly as possible” was not that quick. Rose is not exactly a BONEGIRL and it took some effort to get her safely stowed.) She then leaped (kind of) aboard, backed away from the beach, turned the boat around and raced to the opposite shore, where she immediately began placing calls to friends to help her. She knew she could count on ELANOR and if she gave KATEMONEY she would help as well. She couldn’t reach him as he was out in the yard playing his TOMTOM’s, but ZINKSMOM said she would help as well. While on the phone she knew she sounded like a JERSEYHOTBLOOD, but it didn’t matter she had to do something.

    After much excited chatter the four of them decided to contact JOE and get him and his REDNEKMOMMA known as MERITAE to aid them in their scheme to get even for this terrible assault. They couldn’t get him on the phone so they were going to leave a message on his door, but since Pixie is a SOUTHPAW and her scribbling might be hard to read they decided to text him. Now they had an avenging army, so to speak.

    Joe answered shortly and told them he had an old LINUX program called SNAPPYDOODLE that would be excellent for the task at hand. It could project a DESERTPAINTing into the sky while broadcasting a SWANSONG so alluring it would dazzle all who listened to it. With the villain thus distracted they could have an old RUSTLER friend of his to use a NAGINATA, the tip laced with large amounts venom from the ORBWEAVER, to subdue the enemy long enough to get her in shackles. Though not usually used this way the hero decided to throw the weapon as he insisted he didn’t want to get any closer than he had to and “My aim is as good as ANNIEOAKLEY’s !”

    Once everything was ready everyone returned to the scene of the crime and set the works in motion. Just before his toss someone whispered, “ JIMMYNOW you be sure and get a clean hit.” The throw was indeed good and accomplished the desired effect. The subject was quickly overpowered, her MIRANDA rights read to her, and was lead off to face justice.

    This NIGHTMARE is thus ended and all who have read it should always remember: Do not EVERLEND out money. I don’t know what that has to do with this, but thought I would throw it in for free. Oh yeah, I know what I was going to say. When you do wrong there is always the PIPER to be paid!

    p.s. I wanted set this all on a DESERTMORNing, but it just didn’t want to work that way!

    END
    I apologize to, or maybe congratulate, any Mod or Admin I somehow missed!
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Jan 13 2014 11:43am
    I do remember that! Good times. :)
    REPLY: (by Everlend) Jan 14 2014 12:54am
    That was an epic story ;).
    REPLY: (by CelticLegend) Feb 2 2014 7:20am
    Made my day xx
    REPLY: (by Azera) Apr 13 2014 8:37pm
    That's pretty good
    REPLY: (by Piper) Apr 16 2014 3:46pm
    I love that story! We should have more like that written about us!
    REPLY: (by UnmindfulFlipper) Jun 14 2014 9:36pm
    I really tried to put something like this together again, but we have lost so many Mods I couldn't get past a couple of sentences!
    REPLY: (by Rustler) Aug 10 2014 9:10pm
    Oh yeah, I remember that one. Thanks for the memory
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Players may Not create accounts for others
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 24 2014 3:46pm
    Players must create their own account. If they don't have a mail or are too young then their own parent must create the account for them.

    It's very much against the rules to create an account for someone else, even if it's a sibling. Once that account is discovered it will be banned and left to time out.

    Players may not share pass words, mail or any other account information. So when someone else creates an account, then that other person has access to another persons account. Big no no.

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    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 24 2014 7:11pm
    Mal Gets Her Coffee

    Mal has run out of coffee. Talk to polly to find out that the shipment is late coming in.
    To make some other coffee to last her a bit untill the shipment does arrive, Polly asks you to get her 50 acorns so she can grind them to make Mal some coffe. Which of course Mal makes a disgusting face when they drink it, but she does.
    When the sipment arrives, go to thw Whorl Isle dock to pick it up, it's already been pre-paid by Mal. Take it to Mal and give her the coffee.
    Reward:10k 100 QP


    Edward Seeks Apprenticeship

    Edward is a writing apprentice and is writing his own novel. He is recntly writing a fictin novel which he wants some wrting tips on and in exchange he's help someone out by doing some organizing for them or any odd jobs that they needed done.
    You mention Ted, over in Frigid Meadows, and you go talk to him about Edward. Ted gets mad at you, so mad he kicks you out of the house. Go back in and talk again to Ted. This time he agrees that he'll take a look at it when Edward's finished with his novel. Return to Edward and tell him the news.

    Reward: A Diamond, a Dinosaur Bone and 75 QP
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 24 2014 9:23pm
    Mal's quest stars in the middle of Whorl Isle. Her house is across from the astronomer's.

    Edward's quest starts on Polar Isle. He's in the same house as Olivia is.
    REPLY: (by Piper) Mar 1 2014 8:48am
    The Steadfast Tin Soldier quest

    Go to Polar Isle to start the quest and talk to Hanska.
    During the conversation, you kearn that her toy soldier has gone missing and she fears the worst of it. She tells you she was a prima Ballerina and had to quit due to an injury and retires to making toys.
    She and her friend have written each other but somehow lost contact. She has one last letter from her friend. Read it then talk to Hanska again. Go outside north of her house and use your mag glass for a clue. Proceed west to the big rock and stand south of it for the next clue. The Third clue on that isle is found inside the sandcastle.
    Talk to Edward. He put in in a boat andsent it off southwest of there. Great more traveling! Next stop Rider Isle. Give the password to the troll and go to the middle isle where Brea is. There is a rat there named Agua.
    Talk to him. Oh what a nice guy(not really).
    Tell him you'll do a trade for the soldier. He gives you a riddle first. Oh joy! Now to Dolphin to talk to Jack O'Lantern. After that go back and talk to the rat. Surprise. He gives you a hint as to where the soldier is!
    Now to the isle we all hate..Whorl!
    Talk to Polly about the soldier and before you leave, talk to Marina about the mail that never got delivered.
    Bring back both the mail and the soldier to Hanska.

    Reward: $50,000 and 325 quest points.
    REPLY: (by CometChaser) Mar 3 2014 10:50am
    Thank you Piper!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 3 2014 6:47pm
    Thanks, Piper!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Mar 4 2014 9:01pm
    =) You're all very welcome! Sorry for the typo in there...was supposed to be learn not kearn...*laughing out loud!*. You may want to correct any typos or words that might be run together when you put them in your MMRB. Anyways, enjoy the quest notes! Piper
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    REPLY: (by Piper) Apr 12 2014 12:19am
    Reid's Grandmother's Legacy quest
    Reid is the owner of the rock shop in Treeton.
    Reid knows of a university on the Foreign Lands and has always dreamed of attending it.
    One big problem. It's far away and expensive , plus he's been trying to earn the money through
    running the rock shop, but is nowhere close. There is a less expensive one, but this one has the best geology program and he has his mind is set on going. They want them to submit a collection of gems, minerals, etc and where they were located. He has everything he needs except his grandmothers cataloging cards which he needs you to find! Unfortunately, she took them on her last expedition and left them there, and all he knows is that it was up north.
    He gives you a clue: "As far to north as you can go, to an isle with center snow. Right between a man and bird, dig and you'll find my last word."
    Go to Icicle Isle
    Stand north of the center tree and dig. You found the catalog box, but the cards are missing!
    Use your mag glass to find a clue.
    Starting at the center tree go 2 steps up and 1 to the right and dig. There's card number one
    Dig on the rocks southwest of the ice sculpture for card two.
    3 steps down and 3 steps to the left from the ice sculpture is card three.
    Dig 2 steps right of the snowman for card four.
    The fifth and final card is one step right of where you find the number one card (above the tree on the beach).
    Take them back to Reid.
    Reward: 8 Green Crystal Shards, 8 Red Crystal Shards and 35 quest points.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 12 2014 9:40am
    Thanks Piper!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Apr 12 2014 10:43am
    Your quite welcome DP! I didn't know we had 5 quests out at once! I thought i only saw one and was like "Ok that's cool a new quest!" Then I saw the others! I got questing and took notes for everyone, so update those MMRB's! Enjoy the notes! A Uni does come in handy for Holli's quest. You'll see why in the notes!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Amelia's, Elizabeth's, Holli's and Warren's Quests!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Apr 12 2014 10:39am
    Amelia Hays' Waldorf Salad.

    Amelia seems to have a mouse problem, or so you think. Amelia says that they're ok and that they only eat Waldorf Salads. Waldorf Salad as you learn, is named after a hotel on an island far away. The salad is mainly celery, apples, walnuts and grapes with mayonnaise dressing.
    Amelia gets her celery from Hotton, her mayo from Shellton.
    She need 1 jar of may and 2 of everything else. Time to get the supplies!
    It's best if you have some of this stuff already in your inventory befor you start so you don't have to go hunting on the quest for it.
    Apples are plentiful in Appleton by the trees, thus the name.
    The grapes can be found on Aesop Isle and walnuts over on Jungle.
    The mayo you will buy at the Shellton store for $1500. Expensive stuff huh?
    Walnuts are found on Jungle isle.
    Go to hotton Grocery, where Clementine is and ask her for the celery. It's also $1500 per stalk. Thank goodness you only need 2!
    Return to Amelia with the goodies.
    Reward:$7000 and 30 quest points.


    Elizabeth's Glue
    Elizabeth is on Bone Isle and asks if you could do something for her. Why Not? You're already there!
    I'm trying to make a gigantic sculpture of a squirrel on this small island. It will be beautiful and everyone will know that this is the best island of them all!
    You can tell she doesn't get out much and she wants it made out of pinecones, and she'd like 50 of them. Now it's off to find the pinecones! Bring the pine cones back to her only to find out now that she needs glue. Now it's of to Witherton on Rider Isle to go and talk to Zeke at the store about the glue. She's already paid for the glue and Zeke has thrown in there for her 6 Smores.
    Take them to her telling her that Zeke sent his regards as well.
    Reward: $2500 and 25 QP

    Holli's Wedding Planner (Tropicton):

    Various other isles so a Unicorn comes in handy and Cloud isle is included in quest.

    Stop by to see how it's been going with Holli's handsome rider. You find out that Holli has some incredible news to tell you. That the handsome rider, Malachy, her beloved's name has asked her to marry her! And she has one wish. Since you were so helpful getting them together in the first place to help with the wedding of theirs! Now it's off to the isle we all love to hate. Whorl. Go see Martina, she's the wedding planner who is expecting you.
    Martina is located in a house in the first forest as you begin to ride down Whorl. Beware. She is hyper. She'll send you out to two craftsman at a time, and will give you the order forms and will need a sample and estimate in each return. It doesn't matter who you go to first, just as long as you get the orders from them.

    First stop. Web Isle to see Lilibeth and Shoneah
    Lilibeth send her sample back saying that she'd need 4 weeks notice to finish the order, and Shoneah told you that they'd need 2 months notice for their order, but that they had the supplies.

    Next stop, Wington. William at the Inn is catering the wedding so he'll send along some appetixers with the invoice, and Irisis doing the flower arrangements. Martina also says if she could send a sketch of the bridal bouquet, that it would be perfect.

    Iris won't give you the actual bouquets to take back , but she will give you pictures of them. Iris reminds you to have Holli pick out the flowers she likes best, and that she will need 6 weeks in advance to do it.

    William tells you to tell Martina that Holli can choose 6 appetizers and that changes can be made in the order up to 2 weeks prior to the wedding.

    The last two stops are on Cloud to see Hansel for the cake and Topicton to see Bob for the carriage for Holli's wedding.
    Bob works at the Livery. He sends back some sketches of the carriages, as well as some for dandified tack too. He will need a month to arrange everything for their wedding.

    Hansel is on Cloud with his bakery
    Go to Hansel only to be rebutted by him telling you they aren't open. When are they ever ?
    When you tell them that you were sent by Martina with a wedding cake order and that Holli is getting married, he's thrilled to help out! He tells you that the cake is a challenge that suits his talents. He gives you a box of samples with cake/filling / frosting combinations to take back to Martina and also tells you he'll need 6-8 weeks notice for the cake.

    Return to her with the last two deliveries.
    Reward: $7500, 2 Carrot Treats and 150 QP

    Warren Cash and the Worms of Wealth (Appleton Bank):

    Warren's quest starts off at the Appleton Bank. He seems rather.. well pensive. I'd say uptight.
    During the course of the conversation he asks you it comes to the conversation of money and how there is only one kind in the whole world. His idea seems simple. He wants "ugly money"
    for himself of course.
    Now for it to be useful as money, it has to be small and well uniform more or less in size.
    His grand idea: EARTHWORMS! So now he wants 12 earthworms and a rotten tomato so his nice worms will multiply in no time. (Ugh no wonder no one else would want this ugly money!)
    Bring him the 12 worms and the tomato. He is thrilled to have his ugly money!
    Reward: $2,000 and 25 QP
    REPLY: (by Piper) Apr 12 2014 12:59pm
    In Holli's there is a small typo...I meant Tropicton (not Topicton)

    If you find any typos, please correct them. Thanks!
    REPLY: (by CometChaser) Apr 12 2014 4:46pm
    Thank you Piper!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Apr 20 2014 9:17pm
    sorry...typo in amelia's quest. cost for celery is $500 not 1500. Now you know how late I was up tying it *laughing out loud!*. Sorry for the mistake.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 21 2014 12:19pm
    Thanks Piper.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Cadence's Garden Quest
    REPLY: (by Piper) Apr 26 2014 2:50pm
    If anyone has their notes to Cadence Plants the Community Garden quest can you please post them? I noticed they were missing from the MMRB! Thanks!!
    REPLY: (by DarkFaerie) Apr 26 2014 3:14pm
    Bird Isle
    Cadence asks you to pick up 6 Seed Packets from the people who live in the southern side of Wington. After you do that, she asks you to pick some things up from the Wington Blacksmith. You Completed Cadence Plants the Community Garden! You earned $4500 and 100 quest points.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Clarification please
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) May 3 2014 11:57am
    For "Trading Between Servers" on #4, it states:
    4] You may buy Subscriptions and Pawneer Orders for players on any server. The Subscription/Pawneer Order policy must be followed. (see: Selling Gift Subscriptions) The two players must agree on the purchase while on the server that the receiving player will pay the paying player on. The receiving player may get the Subscription/Pawneer Order for a different server though.
    For example, PlayerA and PlayerB are on Roan. PlayerB has agreed to purchase PlayerA a Subscription for the White server. If the two agree on a price, then PlayerB purchases the sub on White using the Gift Subscription option. Once PlayerA sees the sub on that server, they then pay PlayerB on Roan. If PlayerA refuses to pay, or claims that it wasn't credited, then PlayerB needs to email support to find out if it was credited and to get the payment if it was. Remember that lying about it not being credited to attempt to get out of paying will most likely get you banned.

    Does this mean you cannot advertise on another server? For example, you want a server on Grey. You go to an active server like Pinto and post in ads that you want a subscription on Grey, but you can only pay with Grey money. That would mean someone would have to be willing to join Grey to sell you the subscription and get the money. Is this allowed?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 3 2014 6:50pm
    For gifted subscriptions and PO's you may advertise on another server. As long as the agreement is clear as to which server you will be paying on, then all is good.

    Subs and PO's can be gifted to any server so as long as the seller is ok with the server that money will be received on, it's fine to advertise on whatever server you wish. And the forums as well. :)
    REPLY: (by DarkFaerie) May 4 2014 5:03am
    Has this rule changed? Because of the 'The two players must agree on the purchase while on the server that the receiving player will pay the paying player on' I always thought that it was against rules, I even spoke to a player about it on Pinto just the other night.
    Maybe the wording in detailed rules could be changed a little to make it more clear?
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) May 4 2014 7:52am
    DarkFaerie - probably the same player I spoke to. She called me out on it in Global, I took it to PM (and did NOT point out that it's also against the rules to argue with a mod) before posting here. Because I figured it was okay, based on what DP just posted here. But it seems we don't all fully understand what the rules are saying.

    Thanks for the clarification!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 4 2014 9:23am
    Some things can be a bit ambiguous.

    For most things, settlements/discussion must indeed be on the server where the transaction will take place.

    But, with subs and PO's they can be gifted to any server. At this time...with no players on some of the servers advertising on a server when you are pretty much the only one there isn't going to do much.

    So I bend the rules a little to where it's practical. We allow players to advertise selling subs in the forums, they can't actually sell them from there. So advertising you are wanting to buy or to sell a sub/PO on a server where there are players at this time only makes sense.

    You do need to agree on and be very clear and specific in that agreement as to what server payment will be given on though.

    For "fussy" players, remind them that the players are basically on Pinto, there are not enough players on other servers to comply with the "stated" rules at this time. Doesn't mean you don't want a sub on that server, it means there aren't enough players to get one. *laughing out loud!*

    I am hesitant to ask for a rule change/clarification since it's possible our player count might rise in time. In which case it would probably go back to the specific rule.

    We bend rules when it's appropriate to bend them. When they don't actually work at a specific time then we bend. If the player count continues to drop significantly then perhaps Miranda will "tweak" that rules a bit.

    I'll post a blurp in Game Forum for player clarification right after breakfast when hopefully my brain will be fully awake. *laughing out loud!* (I overslept)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 4 2014 1:43pm
    At this time, due to the low player counts on many of the servers, it's not really practical to only advertise you wish to buy/sell a subscription/PO on that one server. (There may not be any other players on, or only a few are on.)

    Since these can be gifted to any server, and since we do allow them to be advertised in the forums... It's logical at this time to also allow them to be advertised on different servers.

    If you are selling a sub however you do need to be currently subscribed to the server you are advertising on. However to buy one you may be on any server.

    Please do be careful though and make very certain their is a clear agreement between both parties as to which server payment will be made on. (And of course which server the sub/PO is to be gifted to.)

    In Game forum under "Clarification on Subs/PO's Buying/Selling.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Phyllis Colt's Favorite Foal
    REPLY: (by Piper) May 7 2014 7:37pm
    Phyllis Colt's Favorite Foal

    Talk to Phyllis and ask her how the foal adoption has been going. Phyllis tells you that she fell in love with a foal from the Foriegn Lands that it pained her to adopt it outPhyllis would like to know what became of that colt in the Foriegn Lands. Phyllis tells you it was somebody named Ms. Knight or Ms. Bishop, but she thinks they're in Flipperton. So it's off to Dolphin Isle!
    Offer to talk to people in Flipperton for her to find and address
    Talk to Felton. He doesn't have much to say about Miss knight. In fact, he's glad she's gone.
    Mabel tells you that Miss Knight was a rather abrasive person, which meant well, but not companionable
    Iona tells you that Miss Knight has a relative that works over on Hare Isle at the feed store! Finally!
    Talk to Ginger at the stable about the address. She gets rather defensive about giving Miss Knight's address out to you. In order for Ginger to give you the address, give her 10 honeycombs for her work.
    Take the address back to Phyllis and get your reward!
    Reward: 12k and 150 QP
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Crow's Nest Carrie's Hobby
    REPLY: (by Piper) May 8 2014 7:51pm
    Crow's Nest Carrie's Hobby

    Talk to Carrie and ask how things have been going. She tells you since she has time on her hands now, she needs a hobby, but doesn't know what it should be. She doesn't know what intrests her so her only thought is for you to ask the other pirates, but not the captains.
    Just gus' hobby is Painting although he'll never own up to it to the other pirates.
    Black Bart--collects Anchors
    Squalid nathaniel--collects stamps
    Silvertooth Sam-- collects old maps, the older the better
    Smelly Toes Monroe--hobby is Painting
    Mona gives you a Crocheted tote bag for carrie
    Genevive gives you a beginners book and clay for carrie
    Genevieve is a potter and she thought Carrie might like that. She also sent some clay and instructions, if Carrie likes it she’ll send more equipment.
    Mona is a sculptor, but she crochets to relax. She sent this tote bag that she made, it has everything in it that Carrie will need to start crocheting.
    Eunice is a sand painter, so she sent this starter kit.
    Holly collects miniature horses. and also collect sea shells. Here’s a seahorse to start you off. Finally, Posy gave you three Books on Flower Arranging for Carrie.
    Reward: 2 Ruby Necklaces, a Diamond Necklace and 175 QP
    REPLY: (by Piper) May 8 2014 8:09pm
    Crow's Nest Carries starts in the bottom left of the crossbones. She's in the lighthouse. Phyllis Colts is in Hotton (to the east a bit) in the foal adoption center)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Dolly's Quests
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jul 25 2014 9:51pm
    Here are both Dolly's Ice Cream Social and Dolly's Ingredient quests. Sorry they are late, but better late than never! Pipsy



    Dolly's Ice Cream Social (Hotton):
    Dolly is trying to organize their annual ice cream social that they have, but as she says there is so much to do in so little time.
    She needs you to make a few trips for her. The first is to get some ice-cream makers from Simon Goods in Earton, and three sacks of rock salt from Zeke Sacker who is on Rider Isle.
    Reward: $1500 and 50 QP

    Dolly's Ingredients (Hotton):
    Your second trip entails a bit more. Nana in tropicton has the chocolate and bananas, Rika has the vanilla. You just have to collect strawberries and snowballs--50 of each.
    Reward: $1500 and 50 QP (I found it best to collect the snowballs and strawberries ahead of time Makes the quest a lot easier!)
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jul 26 2014 8:35am
    I was typing late at night and just noticed the spelling of Tropicton with a small t. Please correct that when you put it in your MMRB. Thanks!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 27 2014 10:25am
    Thanks!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Re: UnmindfulFlipper
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 28 2014 4:31pm
    It's been a while since he was on, but for those of you who remember him as a moderator, and fellow Horse Isle Player, you might wish to know that he passed away last Sunday. I do not know any details.

    If you wish to send condolences to his family you may contact Miranda and she can give you the mail address.

    Rip Flip
    REPLY: (by Everlend) Jul 28 2014 10:33pm
    OM! My thoughts and prayers go out to his family.
    REPLY: (by CometChaser) Jul 29 2014 5:03am
    Rip Flip :(
    REPLY: (by AppleBay) Jul 29 2014 7:43am
    Oh goodness, I don't know what to say.
    He will be missed dearly :(

    RIP Flips
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Jul 29 2014 8:20pm
    Oh. :(

    I had no idea. This is really sad news. There aren't enough sad-face emoticons in the world to convey the emotions brought on by this news. Condolences to the family.
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jul 30 2014 7:29am
    Oh my!thank you DP! This is Indeed sad news to hear. Flip and I would joke around in mod chat once in awhile. He was a great mod and friend on here, I will miss him. RIP Flip! You will be missed!
    REPLY: (by Korrailli) Jul 31 2014 6:52pm
    Oh gosh, that's sad news. I haven't talked to him in quite a while, but it was a great time when a bunch of mods were on. It feels like a punch in the gut to have someone from our little mod family to pass away. :(
    REPLY: (by PoisonIvy) Aug 1 2014 2:44am
    I really dont know what to say, we used to talk all the time..
    REPLY: (by LadyNavigator) Aug 10 2014 9:33pm
    Just caught up with this sad news.
    Flip, we will miss you and the fun chats,you brightened the day so many times. Rest in Peace now.
    REPLY: (by Piper) Aug 13 2014 6:25pm
    I was just thinking the other day, does anyone know how he came up with UnmindfulFlipper as his name for HI? Just curious if he ever told any of ya'll
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Me and Flip having a bit of fun on Chessy
    REPLY: (by Piper) Aug 13 2014 5:53pm
    Flip and I were having a bit of fun over on Chessy with some players. I left the conversation with player names in here.

    I thought you'd like a good laugh or two! =)

    UnmindfulFlipper: I have a few splatterballs left if I didn't hit you or you don't feel goopy enough
    UnmindfulFlipper: I am at earton dock
    Hikari: MODS REVENGE: Mods Revenge is now over. All Splatterballs removed.
    Hikari: ^^ x]
    UnmindfulFlipper: well guess not *laughing out loud!*
    Hikari: *laughing out loud!*. xD
    Piper: Drop ALL cards at EB!!
    ArabianRose: Are you a new mod? o.O
    Alphabet: Piper comes on every now and then.
    ArabianRose: Oh, just never seen them before
    Alphabet: I've seen Piper afew times :) (Well, not visually 'seen' Piper, but, yeah)
    ThePrecious: same
    Piper: who me?
    Piper: I've been on chessy before
    UnmindfulFlipper: watch out for Piper, she is dangerous
    Piper: no i'm not Flip, you are
    ArabianRose: -pats- I like 'er.
    ThePrecious: OK face it, you both are!
    UnmindfulFlipper: come on guys, stick up for me here! *laughing out loud!*
    Hikari: I'm not taking sides x]
    Piper: Me? I plead the 5th. Innocent till proven guilty in a court of law
    ArabianRose: Awesomeness may be one of my traits, but not loyalty sadly. xD Sorry Flip
    ArabianRose: -pats flip too-
    ThePrecious: -is judge- Do you promise to tell the truth, but the truth and nothing but the truth?
    Piper: Yep
    ThePrecious: flipper?
    UnmindfulFlipper: what?
    Hikari: She's guilty. x]
    (*oops! They called Flip *she!*)
    ThePrecious: jury, do you think flipper is guilty?
    UnmindfulFlipper: she may be guilty but i'm not
    Hikari: Flipper NOT guilty. x]
    Piper: I'm not guilty judge
    Hikari: I know flip is a guy Alpha... x]
    ThePrecious: where are your lawyers?
    Hikari: e.e
    ArabianRose: *laughing out loud!*
    Alphabet: -headesk-
    Piper: mine are court appointed
    Alphabet: I believe that Piper carrys cookies in her bag for all the good kids >:D
    UnmindfulFlipper: Why do I get the feeling this conversation is going Nowhere?
    Hikari: because it isn't. xD
    Alphabet: Cause it probably isn't.
    ThePrecious: -slams rubber mallet thingo-
    ArabianRose: Probably because it is going nowhere.
    Piper: I get that feeling too Flip
    ThePrecious: silence in the court!
    Alphabet: Precious. That was my head D:
    ThePrecious: jury, who is guilty?
    Hikari: You xD
    ThePrecious: out of flipper and pipe >.<
    ArabianRose: I gotcha Piper. -.o
    Hikari: Piper x] *laughing out loud!*
    UnmindfulFlipper: hush Precious don't tell Alphy I told you to mallet her for solving that las puzzle before I could!
    Piper: My lawyer has proof I'm not guilty as charged *produces evidence*
    ArabianRose: -eats evidence-
    ThePrecious: i setence piper to telling flipper that he is guilty and i sentance flipper to say that he is guilty!
    UnmindfulFlipper: fabricated evidence
    ArabianRose: Baa. I'm a goat.
    ThePrecious: silence in the court!]
    ArabianRose: Goats say baa right? o.O
    ThePrecious: i sentance piper to telling flipper that he is guilty and i sentance flipper to say that he is guilty!
    Hikari: Thats a sheep.
    Piper: *has extra copies, hands one to judge personally*
    ThePrecious: SILENCE
    ArabianRose: I'm pretty sure goats say baa too.
    Hikari: -eats all paper-
    ThePrecious: IN THE
    ThePrecious: COURT!
    Hikari: Moo.
    ThePrecious: i sentance piper to telling flipper that he is guilty and i sentance flipper to say that he is guilty!
    ThePrecious: NOW!
    Hikari: o.o
    Piper: "Flipper you are guilty as charged"
    UnmindfulFlipper: not
    UnmindfulFlipper: kangaroo court
    Hikari: xD
    ThePrecious: >.< i sentance flipper to camping with me for 10 minutes on pison isle!
    ThePrecious: prison** xD
    UnmindfulFlipper: hmmm, one of us may go there
    Piper: Looks like you are Flip, since they sentenced youThePrecious: since I sentenced you
    UnmindfulFlipper: only works if they have the power to send
    ThePrecious: >.< pipe, can you please send flipper to prison?
    ThePrecious: or does it not work on mods?
    UnmindfulFlipper: yes it does
    ThePrecious: pipe?
    Hops: do it!!! *laughing out loud!*
    UnmindfulFlipper: You should have sentenced Piper then!
    ThePrecious: jury, should i sentence piper?
    ThePrecious: okay, piper, i sentence you to coming to prison isle.
    UnmindfulFlipper: grr
    UnmindfulFlipper: If I get 4 guilty votes for Piper to go to Prison I will send her
    ThePrecious: pipe is on prison!
    ArabianRose: I'll vote guilty just to see a mod send another mod to prison.
    ThePrecious: xD
    Hikari: Guilty. x]
    UnmindfulFlipper: too late then *laughing out loud!*
    ThePrecious: O.o piper poofed to mod isle
    Piper: *laughing out loud!*
    Hikari: Theres a mod isle? o.O
    UnmindfulFlipper: yes
    ThePrecious: apparently
    Hikari: Where? xD
    ArabianRose: Ooooh. Where
    UnmindfulFlipper: map me
    ArabianRose: Noice
    Hikari: oh
    UnmindfulFlipper: Welcome to Mod Isle. Sit and relax.
    Player AnnieOakley has logged in.
    UnmindfulFlipper: Please do not tell players to "nevermind", some take it seriously!
    UnmindfulFlipper: *laughing out loud!*
    AnnieOakley: Just like a certain Mod I know...he //never// minds ;)
    Piper: OKay, NOW what'd ya guys do that there have to be 3 mods on?
    ArabianRose: NOTHING! =O -capscapscapscaps-
    REPLY: (by Alyeska) Aug 14 2014 9:08am
    *rolling on floor laughing!* Oh my goodness.
    -wipes tears- This is great Pipsy. :)
    We miss you Flip.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Locations of Cloud Coins for MMRB's
    REPLY: (by Piper) Sep 3 2014 7:48am
    Cloud Coins #1 (Cloud): Reward: 5k, 25 qp. (On cloud with Ugly Duckling)

    Cloud Coins #2 (Cloud): Reward: 5k, 25 qp (On same cloud with Carly Cobbler)

    Cloud Coins #3 (Cloud): Reward: 5k, 25 qp. (On same cloud as First Little Pig)

    Cloud Coins #4 (Cloud): Reward: 5k, 25 qp. (On the same cloud as the Big Bad Wolf)

    Cloud Coins #5 (Cloud): Reward: 5k, 25 qp. (On the same cloud with Grandmother Hood)

    Cloud Coins #6 (Cloud): Reward: 5k, 25 qp. (On the could with Aislin)

    Cloud Coins #7 (Cloud): Reward: 5k, 25 qp. (On the cloud where #8 is, take the portal on the east side and it will take you to #7. Also on same cloud as Rapunzel)

    Cloud Coins #8 (Cloud): Reward: 5k, 25 qp. (On the main cloud isle , on the western side where the candy house is, take that south portal to #8)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Iona's Quests
    REPLY: (by Piper) Sep 11 2014 9:38pm
    For these quests you do a lot of traveling and I will say this, you do need your pirate award for it. A uni is handy as it cuts down on the boat traveling. Here are the notes for the quests. Enjoy!


    Part 1 of Iona's Festival (Flipperton/Dolphin):

    Iona tells you that Flipperton is coming up on their annua Founder's Day and that she has something very special in mind for it. In the meadow, north of the town she wants to hold a craft festival there. She's broken it down into some lists for you. The first one is a list of woodworkers. Thankfully she listed what isles they are on. All you have to do is find them, give them their invitations and bring back the R.S.V.P. cards. If you need any help, ask the harbor master or Harbor mistress and they'll steer you to the right person

    The woodworkers are located on :
    Web--Woody
    Jungle--Xamba
    Treeton--Cecil Shuteye
    Ring--Gillian
    Carrotton--rebecca
    2 on polar Christel and Kelda

    Reward: You earned $10,000 and 100 quest points.

    Part 2 of Iona's Festival
    Next is a list of Jewelers and Metal workers, and once again she listed the isles they are on.
    Web--Shoneah
    Ring--Lapis Maki
    Jungle--Inigo Webster
    Whiskerton--Jade Maki
    Carrotton - Grey Slate
    Shellton-Earl Bronze
    Reward: You earned $7500 and 75 quest points.

    You Completed Part 3 of Iona's Festival
    Now for a list of assorted artisans that you need to find
    Scrimshander on Skull Isle--Saggin' Jowls Willie
    Chandler on Web Isle--Chanda
    Native artist in Santon--Yepa
    Stonewright on Lava Isle--Lenny,Molten Meadows
    Maker of exquisite boxes on the Sand Isles--Palila
    Quilter in Shellton--Leasa
    Rug maker and Needle crafter on Ice Isle--Linnea and Katinka
    Reward: You earned $7,500 and 75 quest points.

    You Completed Part 4 of Iona's Festival

    Now one more list! The Final One! This time all the people you have to see are on one isle! Iona tells you to give the 6 invitaions out to only the artists on Art Isle and not the collectors!

    The people on Art you talk to
    Mona
    Pablo
    Genevieve
    Salvador
    Posy and Eunice
    Reward: You earned $5,000 a Golden Retriever companion and 50 quest points.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 12 2014 11:15am
    Thanks Piper!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Archy and Mehitabel's Quest
    REPLY: (by Piper) Sep 13 2014 7:31am
    Talk to Mehitabel on Horn Isle to find out that her Archy has been gone for several months getting supplies. She gives you a copy of the list of the people that he went to see.
    Below is the list of people Mehitabel gave you. I took it out of the original order and put it in order of the people you see:
    1) Lumber from GILLIAN --Ring Isle
    2) Vegetable Seeds from CADENCE--Bird Isle
    3) Tar from KARL--Cat Isle
    4)Signs from SALVADOR--Art Isle
    5) Shingles from CEDRIC--Snow Isle
    6)Rugs from LINNEA--Ice Isle
    7)Saddle Soap from MIGUELA POMMEL--Rider Isle
    8)Chocolate Spread from TOBIAS.--Earton
    9)Oats from OLIVER OATES--Treeton
    10)Dog Treats from OLLIE SCOOPER---Shellton/Turtle Isle
    11)Nails from WARD ANVIL--Hotton/Desert Isle
    12) Preserves from SANDRA--Flipperton/Dolphin Isle
    13) Flower Seeds from LILAC --Flower Isle
    14) Whitewash from MURRAY--Tail End on Tail Isle
    15) Hay from HARRY OATERSON-- Tropicton Feed Store
    16) Candles from CHANDA--Web Isle
    17) Apples from BRUNO-- Appleton

    Start at the top and work your way down.
    Talk to Gillian, She sends you to Andrea
    Andrea sends you to Wington to see Cadence and see if Archy picked up his vegetable seeds from her yet. Andrea sends you to Zamora telling you that Zamora would know where Archy went next
    Now off to Karl. after talking to him about the dlivery pickup there, Karl sends you to Arbuckle, because Archy goes there for a chat with him when he's there.
    Now on to Art to talk to Salvador. Salvador sends you to see Remy next at the Inn after Archy picked up his signs and some kinishes and bagels then headed north to see Cedric on Snow. After your visit there, Go talk to Rupert. Now it's off to Ice Isle to find out Archy picked up the rugs from Linnea and from there you go to Yorick over on Snowball Isle, just right across the bridge to the east.Yorick tells you that they chatted, ate stew and played checkers, so now its of to Rider with you!
    Check and see if Arch has picked up the saddle soap here, and then go talk to Kyleigh, who in turn tells you to head to Earton next. Tobias says the chocolate spread was picked up. talk to Twig next. Twig tells you he headed off to Treeton after chatting with him. Ok, Treeton is our next stop! Oliver tells you to go talk to Ryland! Archy always visits him when he's in Treeton! Ryland tell's you that yes he was here! (missed him again!) Archy had gone off to his next stop to Shellton. Off to Ollie to see if he picked up his dog treats. Ollie tells you he went to see Atreyu after he picked them up. This guy loves to chat with people!
    On to Hotton according to Atreyu! Archy picked up his nails, and talked to Ormand, who wasn't happy one bit to see him and told him to get out to the retirement community..in other words, Flipperton! Talk to Sandra on Flipperton who in turn tells you to talk to Fin next about where he went to, and of course you learn from your short conversation with Fin thet he left for Flower Isle. Off to Flower isle to talk to Lilac!
    After talking to Lilac she'll send you to see Tulippe who is Mehitabel's cousin. It's a small world! Tulippe tells you that Archy went to see Murray who is on Tail End of Tail Isle. You find out from Murray that he picked up his whitewashing and went to see Mortimer over on Starfish. Mortimer says that he was here for a chat but left for Tropicton. There's not too many more places for this guy to hide. let's find him and quick! Next stop is to see Harry Oaterson to see if he picked up the hay yet. Well, looks like he's gone, again. Harry sends you off to see Orson Shells, the rock shop owner.
    After a chat with Orson you find out he left for Veb..I mean Web Isle. Chandra is next on the list and he already has been there but she tells you to go talk to Alton, and you learn from him that Archy went to Appleton to see Bruno. After you chat with Bruno he tells you to go talk to Fautus. (Yea, I know, the crabby old guy from Sabella's quest.)
    Talk to him about where Archy may have gone and he'll tell you he was last in the field below his cabin--if he's still there because he might have left by now. For our sake let's hope not!
    I found Archy under the cluster of pine trees in the upper left part of the field.
    Talk to him to find out that he was getting some repairs done on a wagon wheel and that you should do him one more favor, go back to horn and let Mehitabel know he's coming!
    Once you go back to Horn and tell Mehitabel he's on his way back, she seems as giddy as a school girl all over again! She can't wait for her Archy to get back for their anniversary now! She'll remind you to give her the list for their records.
    Reward: 4 Pearl Necklaces and 300 quest points.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 13 2014 10:40am
    Thanks Piper!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Sep 13 2014 1:48pm
    You're very welcome! I used a Uni for both of these quests. it not only made it faster with the traveling but also cut down on boat fare expenses for me, and it also gave me a chance to grid a couple of the new isles for horses too! Those quests were a lot of fun!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Illiana and Jebidiah's quests
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 4 2014 9:54pm
    Illiana's Tools (Yellow Brick Isle):
    Illiana lives in a hut just south of the boat dock
    Talk to Illiana. She wants you to run to Hotton for her to pick up some tool, but mostly a rake. The one she has, well it just doesn't cut it anymore. To to Ethel's and she'll give you what you need.
    Pay her $1900 for the tools and take them back to Illiana.
    Reward: 5000 and 25 QP



    Jebidiah's Orangeade(Yellow Brick Isle, dockmaster)

    Jebidiah needs the ingredients to make his infamous Orangeade. Only he knows how to make it and he needs The following:
    A crate of Charla Mae's finest oranges
    A sugar sack from Ethel Barryjam
    and finally a barrel of cool clear water from Quinn
    Take it all back to Jebidiah.
    Reward: 4500, a Starfish companion and 50 QP
    REPLY: (by CometChaser) Nov 6 2014 12:16pm
    Thank you Piper :)
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    Thank you Piper!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Isaac's New Design
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 18 2014 9:25pm
    Isaac's New Design (Dog Isle):
    To get to Dog Isle take the row boat from the bottom of Vine Isle.
    Go talk to Isaac over on Dog Isle and see if he has chores for you to do, then comment on his guitar. It turns out that his father was a master crafter and he hopes be the master crafter that his father was. Isaac is a gifted crafter and tells you he is working on a new design to honor his father's artistry. However he doesnt have all the materials to make the inlay stand out. Finally something you can help him with!
    First he needs 20 rubies and a chunk of obsidian and some lapis lazuli he gives you 2000 for traveling expenses. Obsidian you can obtain from Lava or buy at a rock shop along with rubies.
    For the Lapis Lazuli, travel to Jungle Isle to the 3rd Jungle temple up on the northern part of the island. Use your binoculars to find it. It's located right above the fire flame on the right side.
    Bring everything back to Isaac. Now he can finish the design!
    Reward: 45,000 and 125 QP
    REPLY: (by CometChaser) Dec 19 2014 5:21am
    Thank you Piper :)
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    Thanks Piper!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: A glitch for Mikko ?
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 18 2015 6:14pm
    I finished Matti's new quest and found myself unable to do Mikko's new one. A glitch maybe?
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    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 18 2015 6:24pm
    Matti's Appreciation Gift (Ice Isle)

    Talk to Matti about any errands you can do while you're out there. Matti tells you that he'd love to get Mikko a new guitar and that there's a craftsman over on Dog Isle that makes them very beautifully. He gives you 6000 for travelling expenses, and you do tell him that it may be a few days travel getting it. Like that has ever stopped you before? Go to Dog Isle and talk to Isaac about selling his guitar he is working on. He sells all his guitars at the Howling Moon Boutique & Sweets. His guitars aren't cheap, they sell for $9,500!! They are beautiful though! Buy one and take it back to Matti.
    Reward: 35,000 100qp
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    Thanks Piper!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Mikko's Gift Quest
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 20 2015 8:29pm
    There are a few typos you may want to fix in the quest

    1.Santa says Britt two different ways: Brit and Britt

    2. The name of the quest at the end is Matti's Thank You Gift and in the quest log it is clearly stated as Mikko's Gift Request.

    If you could correct those it'd be wonderful!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Mikko's Gift Quest Notes
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 20 2015 8:30pm
    Mikko's Gift Request (Ice):
    Talk to Mikko about adventure traveling to warmer islands and anything he'd like from there. He needs a gift for Britt since her birhday's coming up. Certainly he has an idea of what she might like!
    He hints that there's a shop on the jungle islands that sells some handmade items that he's sure would have something that a cat lover like her would love! Mikko gives you 6500 for traveling expenses and cant waits for your return to see what you have for her! I traveled All the Jungle Isles and even Dog a few times before talking to her!

    Talk to Bettina on Dog Isle about an assortment of throws that she has. She tells you that cats love them because they are woven for Alpaca wool and the cat hairl blends into it too.
    She'll sell you one for $1800. Bring it back to Mikko. He loves it and tells you to take it to Santa and ask him to wrap in in nicely bright colors. Take it back to Britt on Crystalton, giver it to her telling her it's a gift from Mikko.Go back to Mikko with her reply about the gift, and he's glad to hear that she loved it!
    REPLY: (by CometChaser) Jan 21 2015 4:40am
    Thank you Piper, I was stuck on this one too and talked to just about every npc even Bettina a few times but I guess I didn't give the correct reply *laughing out loud!*.
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 21 2015 3:56pm
    Sorry I forgot to post the reward and QP. Maybe one of you could post it in here? Thanks!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 21 2015 3:57pm
    You're more than welcome! Took me 3 days to get it done, but I finally did!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 21 2015 8:59pm
    Here's the Reward for the quest.
    Reward: $20,000 and 150 QP
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Jebidiah Gets His Cool On
    REPLY: (by Piper) Mar 22 2015 2:27pm
    Jebidiah Gets His Cool On (Yellow Brick Isle):
    Take the boat from the dock on the first Sand Isle to Yellow Brick
    Talk to Jebidiah and he'll tell you that the isle can be a hot place, but that he can use some help, if you have the time that is. So, why not? You have all the time to help a friend like him, right?
    Jebidiah needs a block of ice a to keep him cool for a long time, and a dozen snowballs to keep his orangeade cool in an ice chest. Jebidiah gives you 4500 in traveling money and tells you that Heinrich may have an ice chest to sell and talk to someone on glacier for the ice.. Jebidiah gives you 4500 for travelling money.
    Pick up the chest first, that way your ice won't melt on the way back
    Talk to Heinrich on Snow Isle, He'll sell you the ice chest for $500.
    Next go to Glacier. Talk to Vasyl on Glacier to see if she sells ice blocks. She tells you that her Brother--in-law Vladyk sells them
    Vladyk's house is over by Ice Sculpture 12. Vladyk can get you a block of ice, only there's one catch, he needs someone to get his chainsaw repaired so he can get the task done.
    Why does this not surprise me? He says that if you get the chainsaw fixed he'll get you the ice block.
    Take the chainsaw to Rick over on Rider Isle. He tells you that he fixes it every couple of months for him and that the chain slipped. Ask Rick two times, and each time he tells you to be patient and to look around. Talk to him a third time and it's ready.
    Ask Vladyk the first time if the ice is ready, he tells you he was half way through when the chainsaw broke. Ask a second time and you got the ice at no cost for helping to get his chainsaw fixed.
    Gather the 12 snowballs and be on your way back to brick Isle with all the goodies!
    Reward: 50,000 and 150QP
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 22 2015 6:13pm
    Thanks! :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Svetlana's Missing Garden Art
    REPLY: (by Piper) Mar 22 2015 3:32pm
    Svetlana's Missing Garden Art (Glacier Isle):

    Svetlana is in the same house as Vladyk
    Ask if she needs any chores to be done, since you already have time on your hands to do them.
    She wants you to solve a mystery for her.
    She wants you to solve the mystery of the missing garden art. She doesn't have a garden because the climate makes things hard to grow, but her display of garden trolls which she had there last week went missing and the last one disappeared today.
    Talk to everyone on the isle twice and then go around again for the third time (which seems to be the charm)
    Talk to Karolinka who hints to you about Muktar taking them. Go talk to Galina, who is very long-winded, and finally tells you that they are somewhere out east.
    Use your shovel and dig to fine the trolls. You may find some other stuff while looking for them too.
    First troll I found was on the east side of the big pine kitty corner from the house where Galina is.
    Second one two steps south of the small pine tree between the 2 bigger ones
    Third on east side of large pine tree by rocks.
    4th one step east of stump.
    5th one is two steps up from the rock on the west side (left)
    6th one is 3 steps east of the big rock
    7th one I had to backtrack to find. Its 2 steps up from the dock on the east side.
    Tell Svetlana that Muktar may have chewed on them a bit.
    Reward: 10,000 and 125QP
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    Thanks Piper!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Anathema's Disbelief
    REPLY: (by Piper) Apr 18 2015 6:21pm
    Anathema's Disbelief (? Isle):
    You will need a peggy to get there.

    Anathema's lives on the Isle shaped as a ? I found her on the top of it at the beginning of the question mark, but please note, I have heard from players that she is known to wander.
    Anathema Doesn't believe that you are real in fact, she believes that you're a figment of her imagination. A voice in her head, and that no one can live on the isle that she's at but her!
    Anathema thinks she is going to challenge herself. ( talk about someone who's twice as nuts as that lady on Rain!)
    To prove that you're real, you're going to bring her stuff that's not found on any of the cloud isles.
    First you give her a chunk of Obsidian. She tells you that you have three more tries.
    Next, give her a Giant coconut, she tells you that its a pun of sorts, but nice try. Two more to go.
    Next up, a bunch of grapes from Aesop Isle. She quickly senses the defeat coming, not to mention a pun of 'Sour grapes' attitude.
    Next give her a Candy Cane from Christmas Isle. Tell her that after she takes a bite of the candy that she interacted wit it meaning its real, which dawns on her, the reality of her not being alone on the isle anymore. You won that challenge!
    Reward: 50 silver linings and 100 QP
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 18 2015 6:51pm
    Thanks Piper!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Apr 18 2015 8:16pm
    Anything for fellow mods! Sorry it took so long for it!
    Pipsy
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Apr 19 2015 7:20pm
    She does wander. Anathema is a pain in my patootie.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Frannie's Waylaid Supplies
    REPLY: (by Piper) May 7 2015 8:20pm
    Talk to Franie about any chores or errands that she might need done. Turns out she ordered some supplies from Vee up at the Whoa and Go store and for you to tell Vee to add it to her tab, only something went wrong. The boat that had her supplies got waylaid by pirates, along with other orders for ranchers too. Back to Frannie with the news. She give you a red pine cone for your troubles, but you being the good person you are have a bright idea in asking if you could get them for her.
    Well, it turns out that there's another task at hand. Seems there are some rogue pirates. She wants to find out who did this dasstardly deed and wants you to ask until you find the culprits that are responsible for it!
    Head back and talk to Vee who tells you to talk to Marina on Whorl dock. She tells you to talk to the pirates. Pirate Isle here we come!
    Ohh jeez Talk about being pulled like taffy!
    Going back and forth between Captain Jack and Captain Solomon..I felt it was never ending. Talk to them about giving up the goods and you'll get sent to the isle where Joe Longbeard is at. Neither captian will talk to you now. So, Talk to Joe, who tells you that for a hot cocoa and popcorn ( which you can get in Appleton and on Bird Isle) he will tell you who the culprit is!

    After he gets his goodies, he tells you that it's Milo over on saddle. Milo is also the Skull pirate rowboat guard who takes you on your trips over there. He swears he ain't cut out to be no pirate. Talk to Vee after you finish your chat with Milo.
    Turns out the goods got returned, and Vee mentions that you should visit Frannie too.

    Reward 35,000 and 200 QP
    From Frannie: 5 red pine cones
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: A Favor For Olena
    REPLY: (by Piper) May 7 2015 8:32pm
    Ask Olena if there's something you can do for her, and as a matter of fact, there is! remember the garden trolls that Muktdar chewed on? Well Muktdar acts like a puppy so why not get him like a really big bone .. say a dinosaur bone to chew on? Now THAT would keep him occupied! Talk to Ruslan about where you can find one. It may or may not still be there because of the tide. If you have one in your inventory already, then go give it to Muktdar, and then talk to Olena again.

    Reward: 2,000 and 75 QP
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 7 2015 9:35pm
    Thanks for both Piper!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: HalcyonHeart
    REPLY: (by AppleBay) May 28 2015 4:54pm
    I'm not too sure if the previous posts regarding this player's LGBTQ profile were deleted or if I am just blind *laughing out loud!* Last time Orb asked her to remove and she did, however I checked back today and it was back. I asked her to remove it however I received no reply from Halcyon (but did get a word from a bud of hers presumably) so I went ahead and removed the profile
    REPLY: (by AppleBay) May 28 2015 5:37pm
    Butterfinger (I presume Hal's friend here) was the one who PM'd me. They had that they were g ay (apologies for the filter avoiding here!) in their profile. After a *long* discussion prior explaining why preferences/orientation weren't allowed I asked them to remove it. She did, said she had a girlfriend and directed players to look at the gender listed and make the connection for themselves. I explained that she was more than welcome to just state she had a girlfriend - however pointing out the connection wouldn't be allowed as we don't need to know orientation.

    She changed it to
    +so since i am not allowed to discuss a certain aspect of my life on this profile, i will simply let you know that i have a girlfriend
    +i am female

    Is this okay? My buttons have been thoroughly pushed throughout all this *laughing out loud!* Profiles state gender - is she okay to state she is Female? If not I shall PM her another day :) I need a coffee.... or 12.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 28 2015 6:36pm
    Thanks. It sounds like I shall get an ear full in support mail. *laughing out loud!*

    That's fine. I can give an ear fully back. (Politely of course.)

    We do not need to know if she has a girlfriend, boyfriend or not. We do not allow dating or date topics on this kids game.

    *sigh* Get a life kids. >.<
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 28 2015 7:07pm
    Well, got a nifty mail by yet another person, but not about the above topic. :P

    Kid, it's not plagiarism if someone copies your profile. Please get a life... *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by AppleBay) May 29 2015 7:29am
    Oh goodness *laughing out loud!* But she used the same words as I did DP!It's going to be a fun Summer :p

    In regards to profiles then, are they not allowed to state they have a girlfriend/boyfriend? If not then whoops that is my bad - I was referencing 'What is and isn't allowed in profiles' and told Butter that having a quick line saying you have a gf/bf/spouse is okay as long as it doesn't go into detail! *laughing out loud!*
    She was trying to worm her way around it.
    I believe Hal has posted something along the lines of 'supports anyone's love whether boy/girl/' in their profile where LGBTQ once was - I'll have to check next time I see it. Would that be ok to keep?

    They're being stubborn it seems! *laughing out loud!*

    Thanks for the help :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 29 2015 1:01pm
    Basically yes but... We did allow that for a while, and though we are trying to be somewhat more lenient these days, doing so in this area isn't working very well. It rather depends on how it's actually worded. With the current state of competency by kids that wording is not so good. Nor do they understand the difference. In this area it's up to the mod to determine if it's ok or not really.

    I'm seeing a ton of dating. Players come on, state their preference in their profile and head off to pm players for dates. Others state they have a girlfriend or boyfriend, which instead of it being understood that the person is not available due to... It's being taken as a date request. So again, pretty much depends on how it's worded.

    While we (game) seek tolerance, understanding and acceptance for all, we do have young children from all over the world. Not all countries are tolerant. Not all parents wish their young child exposed to all content.

    Since such topics have nothing to do with the game, I don't see a need to post them on the game. We are a child's/family quest based horse game that doesn't allow breeding. Thus no adult content.

    Dating is adult content. Gender preferences are adult content. The pixel horses on this game don't care. Nor do we, nor should others on this game. So it's not something that needs to be discussed.

    We do allow mods or players to state something like: PlayerX is my husband/wife. That is to hopefully prevent being hit on so much by players. However, even that these days will probably have the opposite effect. Times have changed.

    We are a bit more lenient on HI1 as basically that game is for ages 12 and up. HI1 however is 8 and up and we do have some younger children who play, usually with their parents.

    Hal's current content is adult and not appropriate. We don't do player love. Period. We do not discuss gender preference or lack thereof on this game.

    Zero content for such topics as gender preferences, LGBTQ or anything else adult. Many parents are totally not happy about their young children asking what that is. We are not a chat room, nor a public chat facility. We are a kids game for all ages. Content needs to remain child friendly/appropriate. Adult content has no place on this game.
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) May 30 2015 8:55am
    I kind of thought HalcyonHeart might put that back in her profile once there was no mod on. *sigh*

    Does she realize that if we DID allow her to have that, we would also have to allow people to say if they DIDN'T support such topics? And then we'd have fights CONSTANTLY because one profile says they support, and another doesn't...this is not the place for any of that.
    REPLY: (by Elanor) May 30 2015 11:45am
    So she (Halycon) currently has on:

    * Supports any and everyone in their choices of who they love, boys, girls, it's all the same.

    I noticed Apple asked you if it was ok, and you said basically yes, DP, but I'm confused as to what you were saying yes over. *laughing out loud!*! Is she ok to have that on her profile, or should we be asking her to remove it? Sorry! Thanks. :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 30 2015 12:06pm
    That too needs to go Elanor. That entire topic is a no no regardless of how it's mentioned.

    A player may state:

    I have a girlfriend.

    I have a boyfriend.

    I am married.

    That's it. Nothing more. It's preferred they leave that off as well since it has nothing to do with the game and isn't any other person's business. But I believe a while back that Miranda said it was ok to have that.

    However, when they deviate from that statement, then it heads into content that isn't allowed.

    So, supporting others in something isn't appropriate for this game. Saying: I have a girlfriend and I'm a girl is out. They are within that statement advertising a gender preference. We have no need to know that.

    In Psychology I was taught that someone who felt the constant need to tell everyone about something personal or convert/convince others intensely was trying to actually convince themselves.

    This is not a place to convince anyone regarding adult content or personal preferences.

    If you like who you are regardless of what that is, fantastic! Please do not cram whatever it is down my throat.

    If you don't like who you are, work on it yourself or seek off game help. Again, please do not cram it down my throat.

    There are some games where it's fine. This isn't one of those.
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) May 30 2015 6:40pm
    Now it just says: "A C C E P T A N C E Save Our Profiles" with "acceptance" in rainbow colors. I'm leaving it, since you'd really have to stretch to make an inference, in my opinion, and it would go over most kids' heads anyway.
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) May 30 2015 6:48pm
    OY. Just had this conversation:

    Stray: In EDR, I'm pretty sure its still there, but basically another Mod asked a player to remove the fast that they were, uhm, swinging for the same team, from their profile.
    OrbWeaver>Stray: And what is your question?
    Stray: And she got all huffy and now her and a few other of her buds are scribbling rainbows in every art room on the game basically petitioning for HI to remove that rule about dating and gener preference.
    Stray: So more of like, is something like that against the rules or?
    OrbWeaver>Stray: Rainbows in and of themselves are fairly innocent. I like rainbows! But I'll check it out and see if any rule-breaking is going on.
    OrbWeaver>Stray: as for the petitioning, that is unlikely to work. This is a children's game and the rule about dating and gender preferences will stay.
    Stray: Oh it's not that but the writing is something like top oppressing profiles because of those rules. xD
    OrbWeaver>Stray: I'll check it out and put the heads' up otu for the other mods. Thanks. :)
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) May 30 2015 7:02pm
    Further OY:
    OrbWeaver>Butterfinger: This is not the place to be on a soapbox about gender, equality, dating, etc...this is a children's game and as such these topics are not allowed. These are topics best left to parents to teach their children.
    OrbWeaver>Butterfinger: Or, as you so astutely noted in your profile, to learn in school. This is not school. This is not an individual's home. This is a public game geared at children.
    OrbWeaver>Butterfinger: So any rants about gender, equality, dating, etc...need to stay off of this game.
    Butterfinger: you do realize no one on here is a child right
    Butterfinger: also you are the one who just ranted at me
    BreezyBabeKay: butterfinger drew one in the bird one too cleared it
    OrbWeaver>Butterfinger: That is not the point. This is stil a game aimed at children,.
    OrbWeaver>Butterfinger: and you have chosen to play it, and you agreed to follow the rules of the game when you joined.
    Butterfinger: yeah ok i understand that...but nothing is explicitly stated. also, my pofile passed the "inspection" of another mod yesterday
    OrbWeaver>Butterfinger: Please delete the portions of your profile that are against the rules. I realize that many work hard to make nice profiles. I do not have the capablity of only deleting portions of profiles.
    OrbWeaver>Butterfinger: so it is best if you do it yourself so you don't lose your entire profile.
    Butterfinger: can you outline those portions for me please?
    Butterfinger: you can just copy and paste :)
    OrbWeaver>Butterfinger: no, I can only remove. I cannot otherwise alter your profile.
    Butterfinger: can you click the question mark beside my username so that you can see my profile, and then copy and paste the "offensive" portions into this pm so i know what to remove? thanks!!!!
    OrbWeaver>Butterfinger: you may not say "I have a girlfriend and I am a girl." You can say "I have a gilfriend" but that is it. Per DesertPaint and Miranda.
    OrbWeaver>Butterfinger: I will give you five minutes. As I said, I'd rather not have to remove your profile since I cannot remove portions, I can only delete the whole.
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) May 30 2015 7:06pm
    Instead of continuing to copy/paste (she continues to try and argue with me) I've just filed an abuse report. Sorry DP, good luck. :/
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) May 30 2015 7:11pm
    And I did delete Butterfinger's profile, since it stated she was a girl had had a girlfriend. So just keep an eye on Butterfinger and Hal's profiles, and on the art rooms. Sorry for the spam.
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) May 30 2015 7:14pm
    Augh, sorry again. Now they have the following in their profiles. Okay or no?

    A C C E P T A N C EACCEPTANCE is not an adult topic... * * * * * * ACCEPTANCE is something they teach inschool...Save Our Profiles visit the art rooms
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) May 30 2015 7:24pm
    And Butterfingers just now had "HI staff are homophobic, PM me" I deleted it.

    There was also thinly-veiled SJW stuff going on in global, which I did not feed into, but merely filed abuse reports on those involved.

    Someone help, I'm the only mod on right now. :(
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 30 2015 9:19pm
    Taken care of. :)
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) May 31 2015 9:01am
    *laughing out loud!* thanks DP. I had hoped my flailing would not go unnoticed. XD

    Just keep an eye on the art rooms, everyone. HalcyonHeart is continuing the silliness, but on a much more low-key level than Butterfingers had been.
    REPLY: (by Elanor) May 31 2015 9:47am
    CosmicBee has also now put A C C E P T A N C E in rainbow colours on the top of her profile. Is this ok? Just checking :D
    REPLY: (by Elanor) May 31 2015 11:47am
    I can't believe that some players are trying to stir this topic up again in global this evening and when I stopped it (merely by saying "er guys, this subect already isn't appropriate for this game, lets move on thanks") I got a PM from DallyBear telling me that I had been too snappy, children don't play this game anymore (er how would they know since ages aren't shared), and admin should apparently introduce an 18+ server just so these discussions can go on......Unbelievable!!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 31 2015 12:13pm
    Unless CosmicBee makes any other mention of that content, it's ok. But, if she starts telling others to look at the profile or makes direct references to it, then it will need to go.

    And while all of this was happening last night an 8 and a 9 yr. old joined the game. So yes, we do have young kids joining and playing. Many are pulled off by irate parents due to the content on the servers, I receive mail from those irate parents from time to time.

    If only US players were here, it won't be quite so bad as yes, such content is introduced into schools at second grade, around 8 yrs. But other countries also play and for some of those countries this content at that young age is not allowed.

    So if we allow it, then basically we are limiting our player base to only US and basically 12 and over as many parents home school their kids in the US or send them to private school.

    It's up to the parents to decide what their child is and is not introduced to and at what age. It's not up to the players of this game.
    REPLY: (by Elanor) May 31 2015 12:19pm
    *laughing out loud!*, yep thats basically what I told her, DP. Also just as a heads up to everyone, Halycon now has in her profile 'Acceptance' but then is also telling everyone to go visit the art rooms and make people accept change or something of the sort. I went to PM her about it and she logged out before I could do so. As the content shes uploading into the Art room isn't appropriate I'm taking it this should be removed? Anyway, I'm heading off now so if you guys could also keep an eye out if she comes back on:)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 31 2015 12:50pm
    Please remove the art and either file an abuse report regarding it or send a screen shot to support and we can also give violations for that.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Re: LGBT
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 31 2015 1:35pm
    I have mailed Miranda regarding this issue. I have requested rule clarification on Horse Isle's position regarding this, specifically on HI1 due to the age of our players (listed as 8 and up.)

    I'll let you know the answer. For now, this is probably what I will be copy/pasting to the players:

    "We are a children's/family game where young children play. Please
    keep adult content off game. This is considered adult content as we
    do not allow dating on this game. Such content is not appropriate
    here. No other person needs to know what another persons personal
    preference is or is not. We do not support "causes or real life
    issues" on this game, please keep such content off game."

    It's against the rules to have adult content, to date and to proselytize on this game. So...
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 31 2015 2:12pm
    Miranda is working on this. For now:

    We can remind players that LBGT is not a gender, it's a preferece. We do not allow dating, so no reason for others to know this info. We do not allow proselytizing either so please keep it off game. And we do not allow adult content.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 2 2015 12:00pm
    Miranda has added a bit in Rule #1 when you click on rules. Third line down.

    Also updated is a bit regarding this in Detailed Rules under Dating. #4.
    REPLY: (by AppleBay) Jun 2 2015 12:21pm
    Ah perfect, thanks very much for adding these!
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Jun 2 2015 3:18pm
    Brill! Thanks, that will help a lot! :)
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    REPLY: (by Elanor) Jun 4 2015 3:18pm
    We used to have a Mod Book, as well as an MMRB, is that still around anywhere, and could anyone send it me? I lost mine when my other computer broke, I can't remember what it was about now, but I feel like I'm missing something when I look in my shortcuts; I'm sure there were some quick chat messages to copy and paste in there. Anyone remember which one I mean, or am I just imagining it?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 4 2015 5:20pm
    On the server list page, go to the bottom and there should be a link to the Moderator guide book as well as moderator commands for mods. :)
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Jun 5 2015 10:56am
    *laughing out loud!*! I knew I was missing something. Thanks, DP!
    REPLY: (by PoisonIvy) Jun 28 2015 8:39am
    Hi I wasn't really sure were to post this or if it was true.. but a player pmed me saying she was a quest writer and if i could tell her of any bugs as they weren't all in bug forum because Miranda and herself got tired of waiting for the reset?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 28 2015 12:58pm
    That player is lying.

    DesertMorn is the quest writer along with Miranda. Both have access to Beta server. And obviously both have access to the Bugs forum. Usually I also copy those and send them to Miranda as I don't have contact info for DesertMorn.

    If any others come in I forward them to or mark them for Miranda, this includes in support mail.

    Miranda is the one who does the resets fits the tack to the new breed, decides where the horse is go be found, puts it in the game and basically does all of that stuff, so she isn't going to get "tired of waiting." We will get a reset with new content when Miranda has new content ready to go into the game from the artist and quest writer and has then put it into the game herself.

    Kids tend to play their own games, such as pretending to own the game, or pretending to be a programmer, etc. *sigh* *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by PoisonIvy) Jun 28 2015 1:40pm
    Ahh i think she was called DesertMorn but I'm not sure :) Thanks anyway *laughing out loud!* it was quite funny!!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Yarn for Yolanda
    REPLY: (by PoisonIvy) Jun 28 2015 10:03am
    Talk to Yolanda on Horse Shoe and she needs some yard made from Alpaca wool from her cousin Cecelia on Dog isle to make her baby booties.

    Go and talk to Cecelia and she will tell you that you need to collect 3 clumps each of white and cream fleece, and two of silver wool from her son Colbert’s herd on the very southern grassy part of the island.

    Talk to Colbert and he tells you that you need to collect some treats from Itzel on Yellow Brick Isle so you can get close enough to the herd to grab the wool. He tells you that you will need some items for Itzel which are: one bale of Daisy hay, two apples and three 4 leaf clovers for 12 Alpaca treats and $200. You can craft they hay at Hare Isle craft shop for 10 bunches of daisies and 1 bale of hay.


    If you go to the hut next to the pond on Yellow Brick Isle the lady in there will tell you that she last saw Itzel wandering on the beach west of the hut. For me she was north of the double palm trees each time on the north west of the island. Talk to her with the items and she swaps you them for the treats.

    Next go back to where Colbert is and talk to him and he will tell you who to get the wool from the herd. If you try and get the wrong colour of wool you will lose a treat. When you have collected the wool go back to Cecelia and give her all the colours and wait for her to finish, when she has talk to her again and go back to Yolanda.


    You Completed Yarn for Yolanda. You earned 50,000 and 200 quest points.
    REPLY: (by RockPile) Jul 2 2015 4:06pm
    Currently, when you ask Itzel to make the alpaca treats more than once, she'll continue to make them for you without extra ingredients when you click the button on "On second thought, I think I've given you everything you need." I was able to have her make a crazy amount of extra treats..

    Itzel will only make them for you while you're engaged in completing the quest, though. not after you've finished.
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    REPLY: (by PoisonIvy) Jun 28 2015 12:10pm
    Talk to Rafiki On Quiet Isle about his secret and get him to keep talking to you and he will tell you that: “a gnome popped out of a hole by the dead tree and he said he was digging worm holes so I dug there and... NOOOO!” Go into the mud hole and dig.

    You need to keep going into mud holes and digging and around some dead trees until you reach Cabin isle.


    Whoosh! You are on Cabin Isle. Wait a minute! What is that BRIGHT PURPLE SCRAP you see mostly buried under the log? You'd better dig it out.You carefully dig around and under the log and pull out something purple.You found a Purple Gnome Cap! The cap has written on it Cabin Forest Care Taker. Go to Frannie in the forest on the southern part of the isle and she will tell you that the gnome wanders the woods.

    When you talk to the gnome he will mention his brother on his own island and if you keep talking to him you can ask to go but theres a favour you need to do first, he has dropped his magic toadstools from his bag around some of the mud holes and dead trees by which you have just got to him! He’s lost six toadstools altogether.

    Go back to the mud hold on the very east side of the isle where you found the cap. To go backwards you have to rake, so rake your way back through and use your magnifying glass not three steps from each hole / tree to find the toadstools. There are no toadstools on Haven isle or Art isle.

    Once you have found all six of them dig your way back to Cabin Isle and return to the gnome and give them to him and he will transport you to Mane isle.
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jun 30 2015 9:58pm
    thank you So much Ivers!
    REPLY: (by PoisonIvy) Jul 1 2015 4:22am
    no worries :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Gnorman Needs Flamingos
    REPLY: (by PoisonIvy) Jun 28 2015 12:25pm
    Gnorman, Gnome Man's Land Caretakerwanders Mane Isle on the southern grassy part. Talk to him and tell him his brother said to say hello.

    Gnorman will tell you that he needs 2 Pink Flamingos to finish off something he is working on.

    Bring back the 2 flamingos to Gnorman.

    You Completed Gnorman Needs Flamingos. You earned 20 Red Pine Cones and 75 quest points..
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 28 2015 2:27pm
    Thank you for these Ivy! :)
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    REPLY: (by Miranda) Jun 28 2015 3:28pm
    Just so mods are aware, DesertMorn is a quest writer for HI1. She is not (and would prefer to not be) a moderator. So, if you see her online and there is a typo or problem with a quest, please let her know as she can fix those problems. Also, any bugs you see, please put in the Bugs Forum (as opposed to here) so that she can review them. I will tend to look there before I reset to check for any bugs that need fixing, so that works better for me as well.

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    REPLY: (by Piper) Jun 30 2015 9:56pm
    Yarn for Yolanda

    Talk to Yolanda about her knitting pattern and find out its called Intarsia which uses different colors of yarn tha fit together and look inlaid each other. Kinda cool huh? Ask her if she needs more yarn. She tells you dhe's love some new yarn from her cousin Cecila who lives all the way over on Dog Isle. Her cousin has an alpaca herd, and the yarn that's made from the alpaca is softer. She wants one skein of yarn and gives you $5000 for travel money. Well, off to Dog Isle we go! In case any of you need a refresher go to Jungle-Vine and there's a boat at the bottom of Vine that goes to Dog.

    Talk to Cecilia. You find out that her son Cobert wanders the isle and you'll have to talk to him about getting the fleece. Once you get it from him, she'll spin it into yarn for you. She'll need 3 clumps of white and 3 clumps of cream fleece and two of the silver. I found Colbert just northeast of the big rock, way almost to the bottom of Dog isle. Talk to Colbert about the fleece. There's one problem. The alpacas are shy and will only come if you have an alpaca treat, and then you have to pluck the fleese off of them fast!I Itzel on Yellow Brick Isle makes the treats. Now more travelling. Yay. Once you get to Yellow Brick Isle, Ask Illiana where Itzel is and she'll tell you on the beach west of there. Now as she roams she may not be in the same spot that I found her. I found in near the bottom corner on the west side of the beach. For the treats she'll need one bale of Daisy hay, two apples and three 4 leaf clovers to make 1 dozen treats and $200 for her labor.
    Be warned they do move. So I'm not going to put the locations as they won't be the same for everyone. You'll have to find them all on your own but they are on the bottom isle of Dog in the grassy area.

    The alpacas you will want are
    Zenatta -cream fleece
    Zipster - white fleece
    Zoetta -silver fleece

    Don't bother with the others because they'll snatch the treats from you and run, being they're the wrong color
    Just feed these alpacas Zenatta 3 treats, Zipster 3 treats and Zoetta 2 treats.

    Take the fleece back to her, she says it'll be a couple hours. Talk to see if its ready. Nope! She barely started cleaning it, then it has to dry etc. Go and ask again. Nope! Yarn is still not ready. It's dry now but now she's gotta comb it. Go look for seashells while she's doing it, or be lazy and stay in the house and bug her. *laughing out loud!*. Great! Now she needs to spin it! only a few minutes? Fourth time better be the charm here. Finally the yarn is ready! Take it back to Yolanda on Hoof. She is so very pleased with it!

    Reward; 50,000 and 200 QP
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    REPLY: (by Piper) Jun 30 2015 9:59pm
    Not to be a bug, but how does one get there besides a Peggy?
    REPLY: (by Rustler) Sep 14 2015 7:26pm
    Rake in mudhole above Hotton bank. Dig at dead tree on mane where dropped off to get back. You may need to do Rafiki's quest first, not sure because I did that beforehand.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Age Range
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Jul 22 2015 2:05pm
    I've had DallyBear on Pinto PMing me today, and she has confused me a little. I think she was just having a gripe, but if players have 'I am an adult player' in their profile, does it have to be removed? We have a thread further down that says people are allowed to say they are in college, is this still true or has it changed?

    She said that she was told to remove an age range by DP from her profile, and then said that apparently having 'Im an adult player' in your profile isn't enforced? But she's confused me as she said that she had 'Im an adult player' in her profile and was told to remove it. I thought age ranges weren't allowed, but decided to check up on it *laughing out loud!*. She said DP said to report players with age ranges, so I told her she should just be reporting it then as asked, if she sees it, but she said 'yea, but it's not enforced'. So I wasn't sure if she was telling the truth or not, and I didn't want to be seen as telling her to report something if she shouldn't be.

    So now I'm thoroughly confused and decided just to get a clarification on this. I think she's just up for causing trouble. *Sigh* I did stick up for you DP *laughing out loud!*, she was just having a moan I think, but I just wanted to clarify for myself. XD

    And now she's mailing and PMing me every player that has 'adult player' in their profile *rolling on floor laughing!*
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 22 2015 4:42pm
    Yes please, it does need to be removed. I was being nice and asking instead of deleting. College covers a huge age range, sometimes teens and up. So we do allow players to say they are in college. But no other type of school is allowed.

    The issue is the younger kids do not understand why they can't have "teen" or "pre teen" in their profile when someone may have "adult." We don't give violations for adult, but we do ask players to remove it. It's not fair to others.

    On HI2, most...players are older or supposed to be a bit older thus usually can understand the difference. (Well, it's supposed to work that way anyway.) *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Jul 24 2015 12:10pm
    Thanks, DP! I did say at least three times 'DP would not have been like that with you' due to her ridiculous 'she was picking on me' claims but she would not listen so I gave up with her. *laughing out loud!*! Crazy kids.

    *Nods* I have asked several people to take it off now, and will keep an eye out for it. I did tell Dally that anyone with it on would be asked to remove it, I think she was just out for an argument haha. XD

    Thanks again!
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Jul 25 2015 7:27am
    I was not aware they shouldn't have "I'm an adult" in their profile. I am now! Thanks!

    Though quite frankly, I feel if you need to let everyone know you're an adult, you probably aren't. *laughing out loud!*
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    REPLY: (by Elanor) Jul 25 2015 4:16pm
    I had this conversation with HoppingFrogz on Pinto today. I am pretty sure that she's making up this story, but I thought I'd put it here to make you guys aware in case it keeps going on/filters into global or etc. I know she has some stuff about health issues and etc in her profile. If she was in hospital with seizures and heart problems I'm not sure why she'd be on HI.

    HoppingFrogz: I have a quick question...
    HoppingFrogz: two actually
    HoppingFrogz: ...
    Elanor>HoppingFrogz: ok
    HoppingFrogz: ok the first one. what should I do if I am so depressed that anything could happen?
    Elanor>HoppingFrogz: You should get professional help, call a hotline etc?
    Elanor>HoppingFrogz: :)
    HoppingFrogz: ...ok if i can find someone that will actually want to deal with me....
    HoppingFrogz: the second question. if you were straight up told you only had a day and a half to live if hospital treatments don't work, how would you feel?
    Elanor>HoppingFrogz: Im sure if you go to professionals they will actually be trained to help people with depression and so on, so they would be more than happy to help you :)

    HoppingFrogz: alright. thank Elanor... and I am in the hospital in case you were wondering... heart problems... and seizures
    Elanor>HoppingFrogz: I can't really put myself into that situation, having never been in it
    HoppingFrogz: *sighs* sorry elanor I have to go. my mother wants me. ill talk to you later ok
    Elanor>HoppingFrogz: If you're at hospital as well, you should have staff on hand to ask for help with depression and etc :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 25 2015 6:50pm
    Wow. Hopefully she is just attention seeking, but you handled that Very well! :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Indigo's Maze Quest
    REPLY: (by Piper) Oct 7 2015 9:50pm
    Notice the carvings on Indigo's bench. He tells you that he's very masterfully talented at carving the ebony wood and finds gifts that are hidden within it.
    Speaking of that, you mention the mazes that are masterfully well done on the islands - one can get lost if they din't remember their way out of them.
    Indigo challenges you to a quiz about mazes. You gives him $1000 and he'll reward you with 10,000 if you get them all right.


    First question: Which of these contain a maze?
    Flower Isle.

    This maze in Massachusetts is both a mental and physical challenge and claims to be a most complex murder-mystery adventure maze. The unusual features include:

    A zip line

    Buffalo, New York is famous for its snowfall and its yearly festival featuring a maze made out of what material?

    Blocks and blocks of ice.

    Boasting a 100 year old yew hedge maze built in the Victorian era by William Waldorf Astor, the Hever Castle also has two other mazes. They are:

    The Tower Maze and Splashing Water Maze.

    Often referred to as the "Castle of Queens, Queen of Castles," this castle's maze has what interesting exit?

    A path through an underworld grotto.


    This Star Trek themed maze includes 1.5 million plants and covers an area equal to 15 football fields. How was it designed?

    Satellite technology.

    Purported to be the most complicated in the world, this maze was created in the 1700's, just outside of Venice. According to legend, what famous historical figure got "lost" in it in 1807?

    Napoleon Bonaparte.
    According to the Guinness Book of Records 2001, the world's longest maze covers 3.11 miles using 11,400 tropical native plants. It is on what island?

    Oahu, Hawai’i.

    Okay, next question. Described by ancient Greek historian Herodotus, one of history's first recorded mazes was located in what country?

    Egypt

    Here's your last question of the quiz. How was the Lost Labyrinth of Egypt rediscovered?

    An expedition team used ground penetrating radar.

    Bonus Question: Although not originally built as a maze,
    the miles of twisting hallways and secret passageways in the walls of this home became an unintentional but extravagant maze of Victorian craftsmanship. Built by a wealthy widow to confuse and protect her from 'bad spirits', what is the name of the mansion?

    The Winchester House.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Zoetta's Misplaced Affections quest
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 29 2015 6:49am
    Zoetta's Misplaced Affections (Dog Isle):

    To activate this one you must do Yarn for Yolanda first

    Go find zoetta on the southern part of dog (she's an alpaca, she wanders). She will be acting like a dog, go find Colbert (he wanders in the same area) tell him what she is doing. He'll send you to buy a female great Pyrenees and male cria, for the cria you go to Itsel on Yellow Brick Isle (she wanders the beach), ask her for a male cria, she doesn't have one. Go back to Colbert and tell him, he says he wants it, so go back to Itzel, take the cria, buy a great pyrenees in the treeton pet shop. Return to Colbert and give him both. He'll give you 40 dino bones for the dog and 5 for the cria. Then you agree to give Zoetta an alpaca treat, find her and give her the treat, go back to Colbert and he'll give you the quest points.

    You Completed Zoetta's Misplaced Affections! You earned 50 Emeralds and 175 quest points.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Nov 29 2015 4:44pm
    Thanks!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Trading Between Games
    REPLY: (by SwanSong) Dec 4 2015 9:15pm
    BridlePath posted the thread below in the Games Forum. I deleted it so no one would see it and possibly take her up on it. I did post a thread stating that trading between the games is strictly forbidden.

    REPLY: (by BridlePath) Dec 4 2015 7:39pm
    I don't play HI 1 much anymore.
    I am trading $150,000,000 and an 83.54 black TB mare for 8-10m on HI2.
    The mares stats are:
    spd- 878
    strength- 412
    conformation- 450
    agility- 525
    endurance- 712
    Intel- 566
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    1,071exp.
    She doesn't have to be included since she's not that great.. But I'm trading anything for HI2 money so let me know!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Oringo's Bell (Dog Isle):
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 27 2015 10:23am
    Oringo's Bell (Dog Isle):

    To find Oringo's house go down the back of the dog till you see an entrance where a treehouse is. It's only a few steps in. That way you don't have to mess with the whole maze thing.

    Go talk to Oringo. He's a bit miffed that you came in his door to his tree house without knocking first. You ask him why his house has no bell or door knocker. It turns out that he left his bell on his other house when he moved. The city folks moved to the isle and one night he hightailed it out of his house and left the bell behind, quiite by accident. The bell happened to be one from a shipwreck and he'd like to have it back.
    Your task-to find the bell, but it may not be so simple as the storms may have knocked ot off of his previous house. He hasn't heard it ring for quite awhile.
    His old house is on the northern most top of the isle (The top of the dogs head)

    Use your mag glass and look around the house. Find the bell bracket and bring it back to Oringo.
    Next go back to the same location again and this time use your rake to find the bell. Rake by the palm tree left of the house up there. (if you're standing underneath the palm tree, go one step or two to the west using your rake) The clapper is one or two steps short of the ear tip.
    Return both to Oringo. Of course now during your talk, you say you might know someone who will do repairs for his bell. Talk to Smiddy Jones on Jungle. He doesn't do that kind of work but he refers you to Ignio. Ignio says someone on the main isle might do it. Talk to the black smith in Earton, he doesn't do it, so go to Appleton next. Yes a lot of trvelling. Arthur will refer you to Sandy Flint the rock shop guy on Appleton. Good thing I got a Uni for these quests so I can warop to the isles. Cuts down on travel money!
    Talk to Sandy Flint at the Rock shop and he says he'll do it for $500.
    Wait awhile and talk to him again. Take the repaired bell back to Oringo

    Reward: You earned a Dinosaur Bone, a Leather Turquoise Necklace and 100 quest points
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 30 2015 8:44pm
    Thanks! :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Harlan's Provisions
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 27 2015 11:10am
    Harlan's Provisions ( Treasure Isle): (Pre Req) Will need your 50% award for Pirate Isle
    Ask Harlan if he needs any odd jobs done. Well now, since your offering him your services, he needs to get some provisions picked up from Zeke's over on Rider Isle.
    He already sent Zeke the list and gives you pearls for traveling. Well, Zeke has almost everything. Emphasis on almost. he just needs you to find 25 Huckleberries, and you did promise you'd bring Harlan his provisons so off you go hunting for those huckleberries!
    Bring back the hucleberries to Zeke and he'll put them in the provisions to send over to Harlan. Take them to Harlan who is happy as a clam to get them!
    Reward: A Dinosaur Bone, 50 quest points and a Bean & Rice Burrito. Enjoy the Burrito!
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    Thanks Piper!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Gnorman's Gnome Project
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 31 2015 9:20pm
    Gnorman's Gnome Project (Mane Isle):
    I found him down almost by the tip of Mane between the two single palm trees, but you may have to grid the isle on the southern part as he does tend to wander a bit.
    Talk to Gnorman. Tell him his brother sent you and that he says "HI"
    Ak him to tell you a bit about himslef
    He tells you "I am the Great Grand Poobah Wizard Gnome Caretaker of Gnome Man's Land, Grand Landscaper of the Past Its Prime Forest, Zen Master Raker of the Sea of Sand and Expert Thorn Remover of Prickly Spit." Whatever the heck that is!
    Ask him if there are any more Gnomes on the Isle. Maybe he says, you could help him. Oh geez here we go again. Since you're so nice to help out, ask him why not? You have spare time.
    What he needs is two garden gnomes and two sneezes of leprachaun magic. Talk to Fergus on Flower for the magic, which he will give you for free, and you can find the garden gnomes on Dolphin Isle. Head back to Mane with the stuff. He'll be pleased you got it for him!
    Reward: 35 red pine cones and 125 QP
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 31 2015 9:23pm
    Thanks you! :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Leda Swann's Mechanical Birds
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 2 2016 7:18pm
    Leda is located at the General Store
    Leda is a little over dressed for Crystalton winter and not at all used to the cold! In fact she's used to living over on Jungle Isle. Why in the world would she move here? Turns out she moved because of the comparing they did between her and her sister, but she misses the warmth, even if it is quiet. She misses the birds that she sees on the jungle.
    Mention to her about building a bird aviary. She could have all her birds in there that she loves.
    She disagrees, mentioning shipping the birds there along with their food.

    Her idea. An aviary of clockwork birds. They don't have to be real, they can be her own inventions per say, but they'll move, chirp and sing like birds and be just as beautiful.

    Of course you offer to help her out. Now why can't we ever to learn to keep our mouths shut? Oh yeah, we like helping..even if it takes awhile.
    Of course she's thrilled.
    First go to Turtle Isle and talk to Earl Bronze the farrier. He'll make the miniature girders, screws, mountings, etc.
    He'll need 10 Copper ores and $5,000
    Give him the coppers and money and he'll give you the stuff that Leda needs
    Bring them back to her. Now she needs Mosquito netting to attach the feathers with
    40 black feathers.
    Talk to Ben Burlap at the General Store. The netting will cost you $560.
    Bring both the feathers and netting to her.
    Now it's back to Jungle..again! This time for hummingbird feathers.
    Leda suggests that you talk to a local tribesman on Jungle about the hummingbird feathers.
    Talk to Englo-mbe. He'll tell you to search around the walnut trees. Use your mag glass and walk around all the trees. Bring the feathers back to her.

    One last thing! Why amy I not surprised? Now she wants 6 pearls. Give her the pearls and you get your reward!

    Reward: You earned $75,000 and 200 quest points.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Updated MMRB
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 9 2016 5:17pm
    OK, here's the stitch!
    The improved MMRB that I sent to Miranda I originally thought would be sent in two parts, ended up being sent in four parts.
    There's lots of new stuff in there including the new isle directions. Once you get it, you may want to put it all together as one MMRB so you don't have to look at four seperate parts all the time. Anyway, Enjoy!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 10 2016 1:28pm
    Thanks Piper!

    Mods if any of you wish a copy of the new MMRB, please post here and I'll send it on to Miranda. :)
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 14 2016 6:06pm
    I am revamping the MMRB again with the pictures in it o hopefully it can be sent in one mailing to Miranda. Sorry for the delay on this, but hopefully it won't take too long.
    Pips
    REPLY: (by Miranda) Jan 18 2016 2:36pm
    I've sent it to those that have requested it. I managed to get it attached and sent in one file.
    Thanks!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: MMRB Barabara Binder Quiz
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 15 2016 9:09pm
    The last question in Barbara's quiz is What caused the split in "Dramas of Pirate Isle"?
    The Answer ...No one knows.
    Please put that in your MMRB's! It somehow didn't get put in there. Sorry about that.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Mistake in Hot Cocoa for Heinrich
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 24 2016 10:15pm
    I was doing the quest for Heinrich on bay server and was surprised tha the reward showed up as You earned $2,2,500 and 25 quest points. So, being the curious type, I went to a different server, only spent the money for traveling on the boat to snow and walked to Chillton. After the quest was completed, the reward money was 2500--not 500 as listed in the MMRB.Please make that correction in yours.Thanks, Pipsy
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Gave me a chuckle
    REPLY: (by AppleBay) Mar 29 2016 7:06am
    New player on Pinto, gave me quite the chuckle so I thought I'd share *laughing out loud!*

    Player: the pet shop has crazy stuff at the bottom of the list. I mean, srsly, a pet ROCK?!

    Me: *rolling on floor laughing* I love the pet rocks! When you put one on your horse its faces change each time you look at it

    Player: are you a real person? because you are using perfect grammar.

    Me: *rolling on floor laughing* Yes, we're all real here... besides the NPC's in-game ;)

    Player: Well then why does it say "mod" next to your name?

    Me: Mod = Moderator. I'm just here to help the game running smoothly, deal with any trouble if/when needed :)

    Player: Ok so then you are not a real person?

    Me: *checks pulse* Nope, I'm real *laughing out loud!*

    Player: whatever. You type fast then


    I still don't think they believe me... *beep boop beep boop*
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Mar 29 2016 11:54am
    *rolling on floor laughing!* Oh my!!!

    Thanks, I so needed a laugh this morning. :)
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Mar 29 2016 9:04pm
    I like to keep up the illusion that we are emotionless robots and not real human beings. XD
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Eric's Ham Sandwich
    REPLY: (by Piper) May 5 2016 8:31pm
    Eric is the Harbormaster on Tail Isle. Talk to him about any quest/ odd jobs/ errands to do to earn some money. His wife was supposed to bring him some food, but that was well .. awhile now and he's getting hungry. He'd be very appreciative if you could go to her to ask her about it. Seems like Mandy, Eric's wife got a bit distracted and had forgotten all about bringing his food to him.
    She left it on the sideboard and turned her back on the food and who should get it but the naughty puppy Maksum.
    Unfortunately, she used tha last of the ham for his sandwich hopoong he's catch some fish for dinner, and to make matters worse for her she hasn't had time to pick up the groceries.
    Being the good person you are you offer to help pick up the groceries for her which she should've gotten a couple days ago. Talk about scatter brained indeed!
    Run over to Barrett's on Tail End and pick up her groceries. Don't worry, she has a tab with him. Barrett even threw in some zucchini for free.
    Bring the groceries back to Mandy and she'll make Eric a new sandwich. Take the sandwich to Eric who is not only a patient man but also a hungry one too!
    Reward: $37,500 and 100QP
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 9 2016 1:41pm
    Thanks Piper! :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Welcome back Bazjack!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 8 2016 1:33pm
    Welcome back to the crazy word of moderators! *laughing out loud!*

    Here is your survival kit:

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    1 Large pot of coffee
    1 Large pot of tea

    :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 8 2016 1:35pm
    Let me know if you would like a copy of the MMRB.

    It's a moderator quest, mini-game, caves, book guide complied by Piper which includes pretty much everything on HI1 including maps and pictures. *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by AppleBay) May 9 2016 3:44am
    Wooohooooooo! So glad to see you're a mod again - more green beans :D!

    Can I get in on this survival kit? I've misplaced mine...
    REPLY: (by Bazjack) May 9 2016 8:31am
    Thank you for the welcome back! I would like a copy of the MMRB, please.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 9 2016 12:53pm
    Hands AppleBay a survival kit.

    I'll let Miranda know you would like the MMRB, she will mail it you.

    :)
    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) May 9 2016 9:01pm
    I have no idea who you are, but welcome back!
    REPLY: (by Elanor) May 20 2016 3:51pm
    Welcome back! :D
    REPLY: (by Everlend) May 28 2016 5:58pm
    Welcome back :)!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jun 20 2016 10:44pm
    Welcome Back Baz! It's been way too long!
    REPLY: (by PoisonIvy) Aug 22 2016 7:33am
    Im mega late but Welcome back!!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Aug 22 2016 10:08pm
    DP, I wanna survival kit too!! I know I have hit my head one too many times figuring out these quests! Plus the chocy always comes in handy too! Oh Pretty , Pretty please? Thanks!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Welcome back KateMoney!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 17 2016 12:27pm
    Welcome back to the mad house, oops I mean Horse Isle. ;)

    Here is your survival kit:

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    REPLY: (by Bazjack) May 17 2016 2:37pm
    Hi Kate! Lovely to spend time with you today, look forward to more.
    REPLY: (by AppleBay) May 17 2016 3:03pm
    Welcome back! *throws confetti*
    REPLY: (by KateMoney) May 17 2016 9:13pm
    Thanks all!
    REPLY: (by Elanor) May 20 2016 3:51pm
    Welcome back, Kate! :)
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    Welcome back!
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    Welcome back!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: "Special Treats"
    REPLY: (by KateMoney) Jun 1 2016 11:44pm
    I keep hearing about these "special treats" you can buy, but I still don't understand anything about them other than they somehow "spoil" your horse. What are these?
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 2 2016 7:14pm
    It's in the news for January 22. It's from when Joe did his "tweaking" with the game. *laughing out loud!*

    Added New System: Spoiled Horses! $500m per Special Treats.
    Anyone may feed any horse a Special Treat to raise a horse's 'spoiled' stat by one. The top 100 spoiled horses on a server will get thirst, hunger, health, mood set to 1000 once every real hour. Top 100 list at City Hall.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Cordovan's Alpaca Challenge
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jun 20 2016 10:41pm
    Walk in and start talking to Cordovan. He'll ask if you'll his son Colbert and then mention that since they have few visitors, it's easy to get them mixed up with his son.
    That of course is understandable. Ask if you can do anything, after all you are looking to make some money.
    He asks you if you want to take an alpaca quiz. You pay him 1,000 and if you get all of the questions right you get back 50 times that. If you get a question wrong, well, he keeps your money.
    Here's an easy one to start you off. Alpacas are native to which continent?
    South America
    They are native to the Andes Mountains in South America. What are the Andes Mountains most famous for?
    They are the longest mountain range above water in the world.
    The Mid-Atlantic Ridge in the Atlantic Ocean is the longest mountain range in the world. Okay, shall we get back to alpacas? Alpaca wool is known for what?
    Being more flame resistant than plant or synthetic fibers.

    Its the perfect fiber to wear in case of fire as it does not melt onto the skin like synthetics do. How much lanolin does alpaca wool have?

    It has no lanolin

    It has no lanolin, making alpaca wool easier to process and less smelly than sheep's wool. Okay, next. What mammal is the alpaca related to?

    They have a three chamber heart like camels, so I say they are related to camels!

    They are members of the camelid family, which includes camels, llamas, guanacos and vicunas. A baby alpaca is called what?

    A cria

    A baby alpaca is called a cria. For the next question, Alpaca wool comes in how many natural colors? 22

    There are 22 natural colors with many shades of those! The predominate color is white, which can be dyed any color of the rainbow. Now for the next question. Alpacas give birth after how many months?

    Like sea lions, they give birth after 11-12 months of gestation.

    Horses also give birth after 11-12 months of gestation. Two more questions to go. The collective name for a group is called what?

    A flock or herd.

    Either flock or herd is acceptable. Now for your final challenge. Which of the following is FALSE?
    Alpacas are so fierce, mountain lions will not attack them.

    Bonus Question
    Alpacas and llamas can successfully cross-breed. What is the resulting hybrid called?

    Huarizo.

    Reward $50,000 and 100 quest points, plus 1,000 for the bonus question (51k total)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 22 2016 12:29pm
    Thanks Piper!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Mandy's Gift Idea
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jun 21 2016 6:36pm
    Talk to Mandy about Stacie's adventure in the jungle.
    Mandy would like you to go to Polar and get a doll as a treat for Stacie since she had such a rough experience visiting her aunt Heather.
    When you arrive on Polar, talk to Hanska, the toymaker if she can make you a doll. She can't but refers you to Kelda, her neighbor.
    Kelda will make her a set of dolls that nest inside each one. She tells you what she will need for them.
    Ebony nesting forms - don't worry, Xamba can make them
    She'll need gold leaf- Talk to Smiddy Jones
    Some colorful beetle shells- talk to a bug collector
    Talk to Xamba on Jungle Isle. He lives over by Jungle Temple 5 and will make you the ebony nesting forms. Oh! Don't worry about the suplies, he already has what he needs. Just wait awhile and talk to him again and they'll be finished!
    Onto Smiddy Jones! Talk to him to find out he only needs 3 gold ore to make the gold leaf with. Of course he'll have to pound it the old fashioned way..no new fangled machines for him yet.
    Now to find the bug collector. You'll find Flicka on the small isle where Jungle Temple 1 is. Talk to her about the beetles. She'll give you some nice beetle shells. ( Good thing all of them live on Jungle!) Now back to Kelda with all of the stuff! Give the stuff to her and she said it'll be about a week till they're done.
    Ask her once.. nope not yet but the small one is looking good.
    The third one is looking good now with the painting and decorations on it..but still not done. sighs.
    Now the fifth one is looking nice...please when will the set be done?
    Talk to her one final time! They're done! YAY! Pay her the $2500 for the set. ( you didn't think she'd do all that painting and stuff for free now, did you?
    Now bring it back to Stacie and she's thrilled!
    Reward: 50,000 and 150 QP
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 22 2016 12:30pm
    Thanks!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: No-Navel Nancy's Treasure Quest
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jun 22 2016 8:51pm
    Remember to stock up on pearls for the trips.
    The trips costs the following:
    The trip to Skull costs you 1 pearl
    The trip to Treasure Isle costs 2 pearls
    The trip to Hat Isle costs one pearl
    Hat Isle/Treasure Isle
    Go visit No -Navel Nancy to see ho she's doing and if she wants any other jobs done, which for you by the way means money!
    She asks you if you know a pirate by the name of Mapmaker Mike. Sure! Now you're curious as to why she asks but she tells you that she has a gut feeling one her neighbors ain't so trustworthy and she wants Mike to take care of her bounty for safe keeping and all that.
    Bring Mike her treasures that she wants buried for safe keeping and bring her back the map. So now off to Treasue Isle with you!
    You're gonna have to talk to Pegleg Pat to cross over to the other side in order to talk to Mapmaker Mike. After you do, he'll tell you where to bury it and he'll make the map. The four barrels are west of his hut. Dig in the center of them. Then get the map from him and go talk to Pegleg Pat's twin brother Pegleg Pete to send you back over. Return to Hat Isle and to Nancy with the map. She's happy to get it!
    Reward: 2 pearl necklaces and 75 QP
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 24 2016 12:30pm
    Thanks Piper!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Where's Jackie?
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jun 25 2016 7:21am
    Ocean Born Mary who runs the Resort on Treasure Isle hired a cabin boy to look after supplies. The boy just happens to be Jackie Sparrow. Today everything was tossed around and Jackie Sparrow is missing! You offer to help find the scallywag boy. Time to find some clues!
    Start that the equipment tent and look for clues around there. the first on you'll find will tell you to "Follow the footprints in the sand"
    Head east to the palm tree to find the next clue.
    "Coconut shells are strewn around the palm tree and more footsteps are heading North West."
    Now it took me awhile to find Jackie as I went too far North West. Go north to the next palm tree and then head west to Tent 4 where you'll get this clue. "You hear somebody snoring inside the tent. Better check inside!"
    Go inside the tent to find Jackie Sparrow. Talk to him. Tell him that Mary sent you to find him. Jackie tells you that he got bored waiting for someone to come by and left on a walk. You being the nice person won't tell Mary where he is, if he cleans up the beach tent.
    Tell Mary that you found Jackie and that he's cleaning up the tent which she'd glad to hear.

    Reward: Emerald Necklace, a Sapphire Necklace and 25 QP
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 30 2016 11:48am
    Thanks!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Hello
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jul 4 2016 10:01pm
    I know it's been awhile since the new thing with the quest rewards now 5x the ammount as what they were before, which I do like by the way. So,just to let you know, I am not going to make the reward changes in the MMRB for that. If you want to, feel free, but it would be a bit tedious for me to do so.

    Hope to talk to you soon!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Dusty's Origami Dove
    REPLY: (by CometChaser) Aug 8 2016 9:52am
    Has anyone finished this quest or know how to start it? I have finished all the other quests but this quest is listed as unavailable on my quest log. Thanks.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 8 2016 11:15am
    I don't have notes on that one, sorry.
    REPLY: (by Piper) Aug 10 2016 11:10am
    I don't have notes either as it's still unavailable on mine too, and I have finished the other quests.
    REPLY: (by CometChaser) Aug 14 2016 12:57pm
    We must need to talk to someone guess I'll go back and talk to the npc's from the other recent quests. Thanks. :)
    REPLY: (by Piper) Aug 22 2016 10:04pm
    I tried talking to Dusty to start the quest and got nothing from him. We gotta be missing something!
    REPLY: (by CometChaser) Aug 29 2016 1:46pm
    Yeah, I tried Dusty too I need talk to some other NPC's next time I get a chance just not sure where to start. *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 29 2016 7:27pm
    Just goofing around with some stuff...

    Origami usually requires paper to do. So perhaps Dusty is the person who receives the Dove and not the person who is doing the Dove... Who likes Dusty? Who has paper?

    And I may be totally incorrect. *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by CometChaser) Sep 8 2016 4:36am
    I did try talking to Dusty maybe I'll try talking to him again, thanks. :)
    REPLY: (by CometChaser) Sep 8 2016 4:43am
    Yeah, he won't talk to me about it I know some players have finished it must be someone I missed.
    REPLY: (by Piper) Oct 30 2016 9:39pm
    A bud of mine told me to talk to the postmaster for this quest
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 15 2016 9:06pm
    I posted the notes for this quest ( and the others) in the forum. To start this quest talk to the postmaster and he'll give you a package to deliver to Dusty. That starts the quest. The rest in in the notes for the quest.
    REPLY: (by CometChaser) Nov 16 2016 5:28am
    Okay, thanks Piper I will look into the pony express, I thought I finished all of them but maybe more has been added since I checked. :)
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 19 2016 10:25am
    Don't know if you've seen them but I have posted on here the notes for the following quests. Enjoy!

    Dusty's Origami Dove

    An Accord with Scowlin' Sid

    Rowdy's Missing Fishing Pole

    Renard's Mysterious Visitor
    REPLY: (by CometChaser) Nov 22 2016 12:14pm
    Yes, thank you so much I will work on those as soon as possible. Thanks for posting your notes they help out a lot!! :)
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 24 2016 7:35pm
    You're very welcome. If you can post the reward to Renard's quest I would appreciate it greatly!
    REPLY: (by CometChaser) Nov 25 2016 9:31am
    Okay, I'll do that once I finish it. :)
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    REPLY: (by Piper) Sep 2 2016 1:29pm
    Well, I did it again!
    I guess i can't keep myself out of trouble because I just had to for no reason that I know of, Twist my ankle and sprain it good. I knew i had twisted it, so I icing it, going to work and not putting much pressure on in as I walk, and being bullheaded about going into the doctor saying, "it'll get better."
    My spraining it happened on the 20th. I didn't see the doc till 10 days later..that's how stubborn this mod is. So now, I have a big brace (which is a boot, what i call a moon boot. Hard to get used to, but I am. Hopefully I won't have to wear it for long.
    Thankfully I can take it off for periods of time at home. Anyways, just thought I'd let ya know what's going on over here. Hope to catch ya soon! Pips
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    REPLY: (by Elanor) Oct 1 2016 2:32pm
    Hey guys,
    My laptop has broken, so I'll be mia until I get a new one! :)
    Just thought I'd give you a heads up. xx
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 2 2016 12:08pm
    Ouch! Thanks, and get one soon! *laughing out loud!* :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Im still here
    REPLY: (by Azera) Oct 14 2016 5:08pm
    Azera here, my computer was stolen some time ago but i try to check in as often as I can. Life has been a little on the go to play as often as I once did. I miss everyone on Pinto and horseisle in general. Love ya!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 14 2016 9:49pm
    *waves* Glad to know you are ok! :)

    I hear you with the busy life... *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by Piper) Oct 31 2016 6:26pm
    I miss you too Azera! I know how busy life can get. Mine's been the same way lately. I wish you guys and gals coulda seen a picture of me today. I was dressed up as a lady from the Renaissance times. My dress was purple with green and gold on it, and touched the floor. We could dress so today at work as long as there were no masks. Work takes priority here with me so that's why I'm not on much.
    Hope to be on more often soon.
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    REPLY: (by Piper) Oct 31 2016 7:13pm
    I miss you too Azera! I know how busy life can get. Mine's been the same way lately. I wish you guys and gals coulda seen a picture of me today. I was dressed up as a lady from the Renaissance times. My dress was purple with green and gold on it, and touched the floor. We could dress so today at work as long as there were no masks. Work takes priority here with me so that's why I'm not on much.
    Hope to be on more often soon.
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    REPLY: (by Bazjack) Dec 9 2016 9:13pm
    I'm still here also. My dad died and I've had a very hard time. Crying and sleeping has taken most of my spare time. I will try to be back soon!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 10 2016 3:49pm
    Sorry to hear that Bazjack. *Hugs* Just know that I am here for you and you can talk to me when you want. I know what's it's like to lose a dad. Both of my parents have been gone since '04 and '08. Dad was first. I'm on pinto if you need to find me.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Rowdy's Missing Fishing Pole
    REPLY: (by Piper) Oct 30 2016 9:38pm
    Rowdy is a Farrier in Equestrian Park, just south of Mane Forest and the Whisperer.
    Talk to Rowdy to see if he needs anything done such as errands, and guess what? He does!
    You see, he was out fishing this morning and he snagged a huge bass fish which of course yanked the pole right out of his hands.
    Well of course, he wasn't going into the water, not with his good chaps on to get it, but if you found it, well you'd be doing him a huge favor!
    He tells you not to look in the pond but up north. There is one problem though. A heron swooped down and flew off with his pole.
    Where in the cotton patch that bird landed he'll never know since he lost track of it.
    After all, this fishing pole is a family heirloom!
    So off we go to the cotton patch up north!
    In the cotton patch, if you start on the left side of the dead tree and go up three steps you'll find it in that part of the cotton using your magnifying glass. Take it back to Rowdy.
    Reward: $15,000 and 50 QP
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: An Accord with Scowlin' Sid
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 2 2016 4:12pm
    An Accord with Scowlin' Sid (Skull/Pirate):

    Sid is over on Skull on Pirate Island.
    He yells at you when you first come in. He doesn't seem happy to you at all. No duh on that! So, how can ya help him out? He tells you to get lost in his words, but you really want to help him.
    Sid is really trying to make it clear to you to just LEAVE already, but as stubborn as you are, you aren't leaving till he tells you why he has a scowl on his face. Determined aren't you?
    Well, The problem is simple! Sid has a scowl because he ain't no cowboy. His daddy and granddaddy were pirates. His family figured he should be one too but they never asked what he wanted to be and he wants to be a cowboy!
    So why can't he be one? No cowboy boots on his feet! He doesn't just want any old cowboy boots, nope, he wants custom made ones like the real cowboys have.
    Tell him you'll do it for 12 diamond necklaces in payment for the boots to which he readily agrees to.
    Now to find who makes them.
    Go see Hershel in Appleton. He'll need 15 pieces of leather and 7 leather strappings. Those can be found at the Hoof Isle General Store. Also, since this is a big job he'll also need to be paid $3,000. Why does that not surprise me?
    Hershel also need Jojoba oil since he's run out of it, so you need to go to Su Comida on the 3rd Sand Isle to get it from. Su Cominda won't sell you the Jojoba oil, but she will give you some in exchange for your labor of finding 12 sage bundles for her.
    Use your rake to find them. The locations are listed below.

    2nd Sand Isle
    One to the right of Odysseus' hut
    North of the big cactus


    On 3rd Sand Isle
    North of Palia's tent
    Above the skull

    Dust Isle
    Only one Sage bush there

    Desert isle- Sandy Meadows

    Sage by the twin trees
    Above the skull
    Above Alati's hut
    Southwest of mandala's hut

    Santon
    The sage bush down from Pillan's tent
    Above Ant hill 6
    Kitty corner from Ant hill 5

    Bring all the sage to Su Comida and she will give you the Jojoba oil in exchange for it.
    Now, off to Appleton to see Hershel once more!
    Hershel makes the boots and you pay him the $3000 for them. Hurry up now and get going to Skull now will you? You made a deal with a Scowlin' Sid for the boots that he pays ya 12 diamond necklaces for them!
    Just your luck! When you get there with them what does he do? He tells you to go away! You remind him about the accord or agreement you made..the boots for the dozen necklaces!
    Remind him that he wanted to be a cowboy and he wanted the boots to be one! Geez! What a fussbudget! The accord or agreement that you guys made is a pirates code of honor. He has to abide by it!

    Now if that doesn't beat all! Sid told you all that so you'd leave him alone, not thinking you'd actually go through with it and get him the boots!
    Sid does take them and notices that they are one nice pair of cowboy boots. However he doesn't have 12 diamond necklaces for your reward. Still it is a good one at that for all that traveling!
    Reward: 10 Diamond necklaces and 150 QP
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Renard's Mysterious Visitor
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 2 2016 8:18pm
    Rumor has it that Renard found something strange on his beach. Oh the rumor is true! Renard saw a most beautiful creature but if he were to specific we would think he was crazy, no? This Sirene of the sea is so beautiful that Renard cannot approach her. She even trembles at the sight of him!
    He tells you to check the eastern side of the beach gently and carefully. We don't want to scare her even worse than she is.
    The Sirene or mermaid is Ariela! I found her on the east side located across from the big rock.
    She's scared of Renard because foxes hunt and eat fish. She
    is afraid that Renard will mistake her for one.
    You tell her that Renard is actually worried about her and he thinks she is a beautiful Sirene. Ariel doesn't want to harm hum, but first of all, why is she here anyways?
    There were tidepool around the isle she lives on and there was a storm which washed away all the starfish. She hoped to find some here but sadly the storm must have hit this isle too
    You tell Ariela there is a pet shop that sells them and you will go and bring her back a dozen of them. Ariela said she had to tell Mercurius the good news.

    So off to the pet shop in Appleton for some starfish.
    When you get back she's gone!
    Ask Renard if her message about telling Mercurius the good new means anything to him.
    Renard tells you to go talk to the purple fish of love. That's where you'll find her!
    Talk to the Blue Fish on Rider Isle. He'll need a diamond in payment for your travel.
    Look for her along the beach and give her the 12 starfish.
    Give her the starfish and she is happy as can be!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 6 2016 12:13pm
    Sorry but I forgot to post the reward, so if any of you do it, please post it in here for the MMRB. Thanks!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 9 2017 7:24pm
    Reward:12 Pearl Necklaces, 5 Dinosaur Bones and 125 quests points.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Dusty's Origami Dove--Quest Notes
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 5 2016 10:09am
    Dusty's Origami Dove(3rd Sand Isle/Art Isle)
    Pre Req: Deliver Dusty's package from Pony Express


    To start Dusty's quest, you must first deliver a package to him from Pony Express. Dusty will mention that it's from his brother that he hasn't heard from in years when he gives you the reward for delivering it.
    You being the curious sort, stay of course and in the next conversation ask who is brother is, only to find out that it's Gritty and you already know that he lives on Art Isle! No matter. Wondering what's in the package you ask, and as he opens it he finds out it's a toy truck that Gritty took when he was young and he thought Gritty had thrown away.
    Now he's asking you for a favor. Wonder what that might be? After all, Gritty is trying to make amends here. Dusty writes a letter and wants you to deliver it and comeback to tell him what his reaction was to it. After all he folded it in an origami shape!
    Off to Art we go! Just to remind you, Gritty is on the sandy area of Art Isle.
    Gritty loved it! He taught Dusty how to fold that origami dove! You couldn't believe it yourself when Gritty got all sentimental. You don't want other people to know that he even cried or hugged you (except Dusty of course), but you knew that the letter would touch him very deeply.
    Dusty is very happy for all your help, and thanks just doesn't seem enough.
    Reward: 20 Wishing Coins and 50QP
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Welcome to my crazy world
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 30 2016 9:24pm
    This is one for the mod book of almost sending me off to the store for a new laptop. DP, if you told me a few months ago that my laptop would bring up web pages on its own, or start talking to me, or even play some music on it I don't have on there, I would have thought you were nuts. . but yes that did happen and even a friend came into my room and heard it too. it was weird. So I got an anti virus on here and now I hope that helps. I don't need to hear anyone talking, especially when I'm trying to write quest notes on here for ya'll. Anyways, now you know why I haven't been on. Been trying to get all that settled. so welcome to my world, where things go crazy!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Going on Christmas Vacation to North Carolina
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 4 2016 6:12pm
    Hey everyone! Just thought I'd let you know that if you don't see me on during the Christmas season, don't worry. I'll be headed down to North Carolina for a nice Christmas get-together with my sister and her family.I'll be leaving Minnesnowta, that land of ten billion flakes, on the 26th and be coming back on the 30th.
    I'll try to bring some warmer weather back with me and leave the cold weather there. Think they'd like that?
    Can't believe it's only 3 weeks till I leave! This'll be a lot of fun!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 4 2016 9:32pm
    Enjoy!

    Have a great Christmas! :)

    65 deg. in So. Cal today. *laughing out loud!* Though it's going to get colder, should be in the mid to low 50's for the next week or so. To me, that's cold.
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 10 2016 3:44pm
    DP! that's balmy fall weather for us! I'd love it! Sad to say that here its 16 with a low of 10. tomorrow they say it'll be 23 with a low of 9 and Monday 16 with a low of -6, although next Sunday looks worse. -1 for the high and -9 for the low.

    Want to change weather? Cause I'll take yours any day!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 24 2016 9:15pm
    Two more days and I'm off to North Carolina! Some friends are already telling me to bring back warm weather with me! We'll see if the weatherman will let me! Merry Christmas, Feliz Navidad, and Happy New Year to all!
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    Well, I'm back from NC! I loved the weather there and hated to leave it! It was in the 50's - 70's all the while I was there! Sad to say I couldn't bring it back with me. I did however have a great Christmas! Hope everyone here has an awesome New Year!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Talucia's quest
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 10 2016 8:58pm
    Is anyone running into the same problem I am?
    I talked to Leif, went to Vivian and got the book and back to Leif, but now he won't talk to me about it except in going to get it from her, which I already did, and I double checked and it's in my inventory. Did I miss something?
    Pips
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 10 2016 10:12pm
    Posting this in Bugs section on Ocarina's thread so DesertMorn can see it. She is the quest writer. :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Kier & The Lovesick Frog
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 12 2016 4:41pm
    Kier & The Lovesick Frog

    Kier is the blackbird in the water tower (walk inside it to find him)
    Kier is proud that he looks like a peacock now and he has new information to tell you! Well he doesn't like to fly about too much, because he doesn't want to waste his beautiful feathers but he did hear an awful noise come from a cotton patch he was flying by. Well it seemed to Kier an horrid noise so he flew down to listen to it and it seemed maybe in distress like a lost love. Coming from a frog? Kier tells you the noise come from a fishing pond that is east of the rising sun and southeast of here. Ok, wonderful. Now you have to go hunting at the fising ponds for a frog. The one you are looking for is the big fishing pond straight up from Sunshine Meadows. (The one with the big cotton patch around it). I found Murigal by the dead tree on the grass,on the south side.

    You find out that Murigal is in a cage and that's not all either. The cage is locked shut and fused into a tree!
    To make things wors be, Murigal is so upset that she is croaking in dozens of different ways, and is getting more upset by the moment! Which makes her croak even more and louder.

    Murigal tells you that a wicked witch did this to her and locked her in there. It doesn't help that when you ask her which wicked witch locked her in there and she emphasizes THE Wicked Witch that you still don't know which one she's talking about.
    Well, she gives you somewhat of a description, which reminds me of the evil Witch of the West from Oz.
    Warty, and ugly as an old toad itself and mean too. Murigal looks surprised that you'd actually help her. Well why wouldn't you? After all you've helped her out before so why not now?
    Well she doesn't know where the witch would be but the berry fairies might know.
    Wait, berry fairies? They exist?

    Gnella is the in Raspberry bush south of the dead tree. go two steps south you'll find her in that large patch. Remember, where you found her the first time she won't be the second as she does move. She's scared of witches and tells you to talk to one of her sisters. Ok so lets search the other berry patches!

    Gnessa is in the Blackberry bush above Gnella's and in the middle part as well.
    Well, isn't this interesting! she's allergic to humans! ASk her about information about the witch on how to free Murigal. She can't help you on that but tells you to talk to her sister Gnetta who told the frog not to vex the witch in the first place, so lets find Gnetta!

    Gnetta is in the Thimbleberry bush and is not at all happy to see you. You seemed to have ruined her day. She calls us humans noisy, obnozious, unruly and loud and says that they scatter their berries all over. I can see her point, but seriously, is this fairie going to help us? She questions if we can hush up Murigal. If we could, well helping us would certainly be much more appealing to her. All we need to know is which witch put the spell on Murigal and where to find the witch.
    Gnetta told you that she told Murigal over and th over and over again not to vex the witch which of course she did so the witch put a hex on her.

    Gnetta: Ohhhh! THAT witch. She lives where it's all prickly and sandy. There's a black widow named Draculetta that might be able to offer help.
    Fairies, Spiders, Witches, hexes, how bad can this get? Don't answer that yet.
    Oh fun! Now of to the Desert Isles to find this Black Widow Spider.
    You will find Draculetta on Yellow Brick Isle, and you'll also find out that the spider loves to brag! Great and Powerful Wizard! Yeah, then I'm Dorothy!

    This spider really does have anger issue problems! Well Murigal's description and Draculetta's match up pretty evenly. Draculetta says she's a crazed wart-covered beast.

    Draculetta says she's she's just west there, over by the prickly hearted cactus.
    Go over big rock and the cacti and you'll find the Elphiblah, Witch Toad. It does move so you'll have to find it for yourself.

    You're surprised. Another talking frog?
    Elphiblah tells you in no uncertain terms that no they are NOT a frog they are a toad.
    You comment on them not being or looking like a witch. They also tell you that THEY are the grandest Witch in all the Toad Kingdom!

    If you call Elphiblah a 'warty old witch toad' you'll get a surprise by having being sent away from Yellow Brick Isle, and you'll find out where to if you do.

    Talk to Elphiblah about them putting a hex on Murigal. Turns out Elphiblah has hexed many frogs, so you tell her about Murigal and where she is. Yep! That rings a bell with
    her. You however, want to help Murigal out of her problem and in doing so will help make her a bit quieter.

    So what can you do to set her free? After all that is only the first step and finding her a prince is the next, which you don't think is possible in the second part of it, but Elphiblah has a plan and you agree to help her.
    Geez what did we agree to? If we fail to live up to our word Elphiblah will put a hex on us too!
    Elphiblah remembers a prince she had turned into a frog once, but she needs ingredients

    Elphiblah will need one Moonbeam, one Silver Lining, one Obsidian Chunk, one Pumice Stone, one Pixie Dust, one 4 Leaf Clover, one Wishing Coin and a Bunch of Flies. That should do it for now for the potion.

    Charles the frog is on a dinky isle with only a few ponds on it, which as it turns out is Loch Isle. The pond he's at the bottom pond, and yes you have to walk in it to find him. Turns out the he was searching for true love and also vex a witch who hexed him as well. Sound familiar?
    Now to give this story a happy ending. Spray Charles with the love potion and then head back to Murigal with it and spray it on her too.

    Well that didn't go exactly as planned. Better go talk to the witch -toad.
    Elphiblah informs you that she helped you now you have to help her. She needs the 10 Royal Gemstones that Murigal had to make her wishes in her first quest to help with her magic.
    Not that this quest has been easy so far, now it's become a bit more difficult.
    You see, while talking to Murigal about handing over the gemstones, she admits that she doesn't have them and that she used them to wish to jump to other ponds.
    But where exactly?
    Well she didn't go to Jungle,and Ice, or Lava gave her nightmares
    and she didn't go to any pond that she was at before, so that excludes Appleton, Quiet, Hoof, Flower, Cantle Meadows, Haven, Wington, Whorl, Tail, & Starfish
    She will tell you where she has gone where she has gone with her jumping so listen closley. Between all the sobbing and hiccups, this frog has it bad.


    You will have to dig to find the gems. Here are the locations I found them at:

    1.Turtle Isle
    2.Ring (the pond by the house where you first meet Murigal)
    3.Yellow Brick Isle
    4.Yellow Brick Isle
    5.Equestrian Park (There's a pond in the cotton patch above the park the gem will be in the pond)
    6.Earton (Fly N' Frog Game)
    7.Pond across from Pryamid 2 on Desert Isle
    8.Pond across from Pyramid 4 on Desert Isle
    9.Torrid Isle
    10.Witherton (The pond right after you get off the boat between the two trees)
    *Alternate for two of the gems: one in the pond by the dead tree and one in the pond above
    *Note: Both ponds on Desert are found on the grass on the very southern part of Desert Isle.*

    Now, return to Elphiblah with the 10 gems. Give Elphiblah the gems and they'll give you a key telling you in no uncertain terms to "get outta there or they'll put a hex on you!"
    No thank you! I'm outta there fast! Return to Murigal with the key.
    She's excited and worried at the same she time. Excited she'll be free to find her true love but a bit worried that when he kisses her if she'll turn back into a princess or not.
    Once you tell her what Charles looks like, you have to remind her that hey, you wanted to find your true love by kissing frogs in the first place, right?
    Great. Now there's a problem. The reward. Murigal poofed away without giving us one.
    Go back and talk to Gnetta. Yea the grumpy fairie you gotta talk to once more. Talk to her about the noisy frog. She seems pleasantly surprised that Murigal isn't making noise anymore and gives you 10 diamonds.
    Now off to find Murigal!
    Talking to Murigal she realizes that she's never really thanked you for helping her out.
    So to thanks you for all the work you did in freeing her and helpingnd her her find her true love, she gives you a nice reward.

    Reward: 7 Diamond Necklaces, 10 Ruby Necklaces and 250 QP
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Talucia's Little Gift
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 13 2016 4:59pm
    Talucia's Little Gift (Sunshine Meadows):

    Talk to Leif in Sunshine Meadows. He asks you to pick a package up from Vivian for him. His daughter, Talucia, loves horses which of course they can't afford so Vivian told him she'd make him a horse coloring book for her, which he hopes bring her happiness and enjoyment, because parents hate to disappoint their kids. So of course, you readily agree to go get the book for him to give to his daughter.
    Off to torrid Isle you go now!
    Vivian made sure that when she made the book that every page had a horse to color onit. How nice of her!
    Talk to Lief and have him remind you what you were doing. Oh yea! the coloring book! He wants you to give it to her so he can capture this moment on camera. Oh my! Talucia is enthralled with the coloring book! She loves it! Talk to Lief about her and how happy she is with it.

    Reward: You earned $62,500 and 50 QP
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Demtrius' Treasure Riddle
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 15 2016 7:32pm
    This quest took me awhile to do, sorry for the late post o

    Demtrius' Treasure Riddle(Rider Isle):

    Demetrius is the poet on Rider Isle. Talk to him about the quest. He'll give you his riddle and the first clue to start it.

    (Demetrius' Riddle)

    Placed in a hollow
    A treasure you'll find
    If the clues you follow.

    (Demtrius' 1st Clue)
    She studies the skies
    She lives by the sea
    On a slice of the moon
    Is where she'll be

    Crescent Isle
    The first clue will take you to Crescent Isle. Talk to Luna about any riddles she may have found , and yes she has! She found one when she first moved ther, how odd.

    Luna tells you the next clue.

    In front of the tree
    As far down as you go
    There lies a secret
    Buried below.

    You'll find the clue buried on the top of the very southern tree on Cresent Isle.
    Dig up the following clue.

    Keeper of the aging
    The equine dears
    A place of sanctuary
    With no worries or fears

    Well this one takes you all the way to Half-Haven Isle
    to where Ruthie lives.
    Talk to Ruthie about the next clue. She says that the tree that had the clue is not there, but she did write it down, and does still have the copy of it.

    Ruthie: Listen to this:
    In between two trees
    North of the pond
    Look carefully to see.

    This clue takes you to Haven Isle. Stand between the two trees above the pond and look west. use your mag glass for the clue. Darn! The wind tried to blow it away, but you grabbed it in time!

    Queen of past
    Asp caused grief
    'Tween shrine of sand
    and thirst relief.

    Use your mag glass to find this clue on the east side of pyramid 4
    Looking carefully at the stones of the pyramid, you discover some hieroglyphs. They show The Eye of Horus and the symbol for East.

    Go east till you come to a pond surrounded by three trees, which by the way is only a hop away from the pyramid. Stand between them and the tree to the west and dig.

    Go east till you come to a pond surrounded by three trees. Stand between them and the tree to the west and dig.
    Time to get back to Demetrius with the news!

    Demetrius is not at all pleased at you disturbing his book writing and tell you to keep the treasure and for you to go away.
    Reward: 7 Emerald Necklaces , 5 Ruby Necklaces and 200 QP
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 17 2016 12:52pm
    *Correction* On Crescent Isle on the southern tip of the isle where the palm tree is located, dig on the south side of it, not the northern side.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Horse Isle Store
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 20 2016 9:18pm
    I noticed recently that when I went to the Horse Isle store that it seemed that the stuff had been removed. I hope not because I was hoping to order a mug for myself as well as a shirt one of these days. I hope they are still in the store.
    If you know anything of this could you let me know? thanks, Pips
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Karta's Missing Astrolabe
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 31 2016 11:21pm
    Karta's Missing Astrolabe
    You'll find her on the large rock pile east of Jungle cave 2. She may move around a bit but not by much.
    After you startle Karta, talk to her and ask why she's here.
    Well turns out she loves to create maps and documents of the places she visits.
    Well, what's so interesting about this spot in the jungle? Well the deposits as she puts it, look like the constellation if you look close enough, but something is bothering her.
    Her family heirloom, her astrolabe which was her great-grandfather's is now missing. Well, You're good at finding things! Why not help?
    She tells you that she was east, but south mostly from here and at an odd area where you have to answer a clue to go through the jungle.
    Sound familiar?
    Search through the first area of Shwana's Jungle to find the astrolabe.
    The answer is stream to get in there.
    Use your rake and you'll find it soon enough.
    Return with the astrolabe to Karta and get your reward!
    Reward: A Binoculars, four Toucans and 50 QP
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Just to let you know about MMRB
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 3 2017 6:30pm
    Just so you know ahead of time, for those of you who have the MMRB, it has gotten bigger over the years since I took it over. I never thought that we'd have over 680 quests down from a couple hundred. I am going to try and send a new revised version to Miranda sometime this year, and for those who don't have it or want it, be sure to give a shout out to her.
    Pips
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Hey all
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 9 2017 3:37pm
    Hey everyone!
    I sent off a copy of the MMRB or Mod Book of all the quests to Miranda today. If any of you need or want one, give a holler. I included the newer quests in there. As the MMRb has gotten so big lately, this will be the last time I send the whole book out again, but I will post the quest notes on here so you can add them to your own MMRB.

    Happy Questing!
    Piper
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 9 2017 6:54pm
    Thanks Pipsy. Haven't posted on your quest threads, but thank you so much for doing this.

    I don't seem to get to questing these days and those notes really, really help me when players post bugs or problems to know if it is or not.
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 9 2017 7:23pm
    You're more than welcome DP!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Player Concern
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Feb 3 2017 4:15pm
    I was on Pinto tonight and a player mentioned to me that Cat keeps bullying people, and she seemed to think it was getting pretty bad. She said it's continuing over onto social media as well with this player picking on the players who she's bullying in game. Apparently it is on a horse isle page, but I did tell her that there are a lot of unofficial social media pages, that are not linked to Horseisle, and there wasn't anything we could do about them really. I said the best way to tackle any rule breaking was for players to report any bullying or use the mute button, but I said I'd mention it anyway. She was really adamant that she didn't want people in game to know she'd complained, but I said it wouldn't go any further than here. I just thought I'd mention it, I don't know if there's any way you can check up on her chats, but hopefully one day player will make use of that handy mute button. XD
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Feb 3 2017 4:37pm
    Ancrath has also just messaged me about the same player, Cat. I told her to report the chat, she said it happened about an hour ago (game time right now is 8.32am) and she had logged out inbetween. I told her to report it anyway, and I'd let you know that I told her to file it incase the report is no good. I wasn't sure if it would work as she's been logged out, and it's over an hour ago. Hope this was ok! :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 3 2017 5:01pm
    I'll look into it a bit later. I need to fix dinner right now. *laughing out loud!*

    Thanks :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 3 2017 7:47pm
    The only thing I see since and including last Sunday is polite chat.

    What Ancrath is fussing about is Cat asked her to discuss issues directly with her instead of talking about it with buddies as they share some of the same buddies. It was a polite request. Ancrath is free to mute Cat or remove buddies, or whatever.

    Players are welcome to file abuse reports if they feel they are being bullied, however it needs to be at that time if possible.

    I did go back all the way to Sunday for the chat content, and no sign of bulling. If it's happening it was either a while back or off game.
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Feb 11 2017 1:17pm
    OK! Sorry to waste your time with it then!! If only players showed some common sense with things like this, grr! xx
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 11 2017 9:56pm
    No problem. :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: "Common courtesy" of releasing horses
    REPLY: (by Thorin) Feb 7 2017 12:47pm
    I thought I would bring this up because I was dealing with a couple of players today on Pinto who were making an issue of it.

    A player had released a horse near Earton and placed an ad in Ads Chat saying that they had done so. This prompted several other players to enter Global and start attacking/name calling the first for having released the horse instead of pawning it. When I explained that releasing horses is not against the rules and that it is a mechanic of the game that Joe and Miranda decided should be available to players as an alternative to pawning, the most stubborn of the bunch decided to use NightMare/DP's stickied thread on the subject as ammunition.

    They were trying to claim that releasing is against the rules because it inconveniences people who are whispering.
    First of all, it seems to me that with the new Pawneer prices, the "inconvenience" of catching a released horse is now a logical fallacy (you can more than double the money you spent to whisper it... that sounds like a win?)
    Secondly, and most importantly, regardless of your feelings on releasing horses, the statements made in the forum post mentioned above are guidelines and not rules, yet players are using them as grounds for harassing other players ("I don't like when people release horses --> DP says its 'bad' too --> I get to attack people who do it.")

    I think the forum post should probably be edited to be a little clearer on the fact that it's not against any rules to release, and especially that it's not OK to tell people they CAN'T release. Or else maybe it should just be taken down altogether. Like I said, if you whisper a dud released horse, you more than make your money back at the Pawneer. The only thing you're out is the 60 seconds it took you to catch it. XD
    REPLY: (by Thorin) Feb 7 2017 12:48pm
    P.S., I would link to the other topic I'm referring to, but the forum thinks it's "profanity." :P Anyway, it's titled "Releasing Horses (DesertPaint Repost)" in the Game forum.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 8 2017 11:17am
    Thanks, I updated the thread. :)
    REPLY: (by Thorin) Feb 8 2017 2:21pm
    Thanks DP! I'll refer people back to that thread now if there are ever any more issues. :)
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    REPLY: (by OrbWeaver) Feb 10 2017 10:57pm
    Life got in the way and it looks like my account not only timed out but deleted!

    Sorry fellow mods. Hope it hasn't been crazy around here. One of the life things that got in the way: I GOT ENGAGED! So there's that. :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 11 2017 11:02am
    Congrats!!!

    I'll try and catch you on and get you some money!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jun 4 2017 4:52pm
    Congrats Orby! So happy to hear that!
    REPLY: (by Everlend) Jun 4 2017 7:35pm
    Congrats Orby!!!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 6 2017 12:03pm
    OrbWeaver has not logged on for a while and has lost her account...

    Hopefully this is because she is having a ton of fun. :)

    And hopefully we will see her again.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Giuliana's Missing Friend
    REPLY: (by Piper) Feb 22 2017 8:09pm
    Giuliana's Missing Friend (Dog Isle):

    (Same hut as Cordovan)
    Talk to Giuliana. She's not too talkative at first because she's crying, but she does tell you eventually that she lost one of her best friends and you are good at finding people and things, so listen to her story.
    Well it seems she was showing Tika some flowers and a grumpy lady when she got scared off.
    Turns out that the flowers bite and are down in the jungle by Oringo's tree house and she was exploring when Tika ran off.
    Well, off to Jungle you go and to find Tika..hopefully fast!
    Standing outside of Upada's home before you go in, take 2 steps to the right and you'll find the monkey. However taking Tika back will prove a challenge since Tika runs away from you and into the trees.
    Go back and talk to Giuliana about what to bribe Tika with. She'll give you an overripe banana.
    Put it on the big rock pile and use your mag glass. Grab Tika and take her home to Giuliana!
    Giuliana is so happy to have Tika back!

    Reward: 4 Chamelions and 100 QP.
    REPLY: (by Piper) Feb 22 2017 9:28pm
    Yep. I thought it was mis-spelled on the quest reward. I looked in my inventory and there were 4 Chameleons, not Chamelions as listed on the reward. Please correct it when you put it in your MMRB. Thanks!
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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 6 2017 9:11pm
    Thanks!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: A Delivery For Sundance
    REPLY: (by Piper) Feb 25 2017 11:48am
    A Delivery For Sundance (Mane Forest Pony Express/Torrid Isle):
    To start this quest, you have to deliver a package from the Pony Express from the Postmaster General over by Mane Forest to Sundance on Torrid Isle.
    Sundance is mappable so I suggest you do that before you start gridding the whole Isle looking for him, because after you tell him goodbye and try to move back to the same spot he was at before, good luck. He moves on you.
    Chat with him a bit on how 'windy' it is there.
    Give him the package from Pony Express.
    Reward: A Diamond

    Well now, after that is said and done, let's talk to him to see if he has any 'odd jobs' for us to do. Sundance: I do indeed! I'd like you to deliver something to my horse. He's the fastest horse around. Why, he is so fast, he can outrun the wind. He is so fast, the wind takes training lessons from him. He is SOOOO fast, if you blink your eyes, you'll miss him.
    Turns out he's only that fast when he's being ridden..so fast that they'd stir up a whirlwind.
    So its going to be a challenge to find him. What else is new?
    So Hindsight is the horses name, but I wish Sundance would get to the point already!
    Now to pick up the package from the vet in Tropicton.
    And here's the clue for Hindsight:
    Sundance: And for where you'll find Hindsight? He grazes in the grass that is soooo green, it makes Envy jealous! That'd be the grass between the desert and the sandcastle. Or there abouts.
    Don't go to Desert isle or the Sand isles, I'll save you all that trouble for traveling. Hindsight is on Torrid Isle. Standing south of the Sandcastle walk down around the grassy area till you find him. He does move, but not far from his original spot. I found him south of the big rock and then 2 paces east of it the second time.
    As soon as you give him the package, you're surprised that he eats it and hopes that was what Sundance wanted him to do with it.
    Wouldn't it have been nice if only Sundance would've told us that Hindsight was on this isle to begin with? Oh wait that would've been way too easy then!
    Ok, back to Sundance now!
    Turns out that smelly stinky package was just was his horse needed to keep healthy!
    Well aren't you glad that you got that delivered!
    Reward: 4 Diamonds and 100 QP
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 6 2017 9:09pm
    Thanks Piper, sorry I'm so late with this. *laughing out loud!*
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: A bit of bad luck
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jun 6 2017 8:37pm
    I guess you can say that I have had a bit of bad luck. Before I left for my nieces wedding, I found out that my laptop that I play HI on took a dive and crashed. So I am down to my PC now and it takes me a bit longer to look up quests on my MMRB as the one on here is not updated. So in case you were wondering where Pipsy went to, well now you know.
    Although I did have a good time in North Carolina at her wedding! I will try to be on more often again, and i am laptop shopping too. :) Hope to see you all on HI soon! Take care! pipsy
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 7 2017 12:03pm
    Computers drive me crazy! *laughing out loud!*

    My desktop keeps crashing. I have no idea why, it's not supposed to do that and it checks out with diagnostics just fine... gah. *laughing out loud!*

    I know your problem!

    Hang in there, and I'm glad you had a good time! :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Scar-Nose Pete’s TGPBTP Quest (Skull/Lava)
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jun 7 2017 4:43pm
    Scar-Nose Pete’s TGPBTP Quest (Pirate:Skull/Lava):
    To find Scar-Nose Pete you may want to map him in the library first. He's on Pirate Isle on the Skull side. Look up on top of the Skull's forehead and you will find him in the rowboat going to a pirate ship.

    Before you start talking to him , you notice that he has a scar on his nose, and when he asks you about you looking at it, change the subject quick as you wouldnn't want having a few cuts on yourself.

    Well it seem he was on this adventure when a huge wave hit his ship and smashed it, leaving nothing of it and he was drifting for days. Then Barbossa found him, which he tells you that he wasn't the best company but I guess pirates can't be picky about that can they? When they washed up here on Skull, that's when he saw that Barbossa had a secret and that it had to do with the TGPBTP.
    What's that you ask? Good question!
    TGPBTP just happens to be The Great Pirate Buried Treasure Puzzler!
    Scar-Nose Pete tells you this about it:
    "The tale be long and twisted Matey.
    'Bout travels far and riches deep and a
    Cap'n who be so legendary he be as close to mythical..as..as..well, mythical.
    He hid seven treasures. Then he scattered 19 pieces to a puzzle 'round the lands that ye got to gather up.
    Barbossa gots the riddle that be the key to finding the puzzle pieces, so unless you get the bird to talk ye ain't gonna get the treasure."

    Well now, how on earth do you trick this bird? Crackers? He doesn't look at all too friendly. Well Pete tells ya, Barbossa has a terrible sweet tooth and loves smores!
    Now remember to have your pen and paper handy because he does not repeat the riddle.

    Here's the riddle Barbossa gives you
    Howler Hopper Yowler Splash
    Ships debris hides clues of stash
    Not burnt nor fluff these places be
    Hidey holes for treasure keys.

    Sure it doesn't make sense at first. However the first four are isles. They are Dog, Hare, Cat and Dolphin.
    On each Isle you are looking for tiles, 19 tiles to be exact. Rake in the following locations on the floatsom to find them.

    Dog-You'll find 3 here

    Down by the mouth if the dog.
    Beginning of the neck on the dog.
    Around the back of the dogs neck by a single palm tree.

    Hare-You'll find 3 here

    Go down on the right side of the right ear and you'll find the first one above the double palm tree-right across from Dotti.
    On the left side on the beach of Carrot run #3
    Look for a palm tree east of Carrot run #3 and the floasom is south of it


    Cat-You'll find 6 here

    Between the ears.
    above the double palms near the left ear.
    Between the double and single palm trees on the left ear.
    Tip of the left ear.
    Go down the left side of the Cat till you come to a double palm. The floatsom is a few steps away from there.
    South of a palm tree by the dock.

    Dolphin-You'll find 7 here

    Northeast of the mudhole of the General Store
    West of the Welcome sign you'll see it on the beach
    Coming up from the bottom of Dolphin Isle, on the right side you'll find 3 on the beach just waiting to be raked!
    Two are east of the water fountain.

    Return to Scar-Nose Pete with all of the 19 odd shaped tiles for him to decipher.
    He then comes back to you with three anagrams.

    Rested

    Cleats

    Base Fox

    Now alone they don't seem to make any sense until you unscramble them

    Now you have Desert, Castle and SafeBox.

    For this part of the quest, you'll need to get your shovel out and start digging! This is where your MMRB comes in handy now. Cause you're gonna have to go to all the locations on the sand castles and dig inside them. Once you get all the keys, go to Scar-Nose Pete again. He'll give you a bit of pirate lore to help ya out.
    Here he gives you a lullabye or part of one that his mother sang to him.

    A need for 3 of each the best
    each padlocked hidden treasure chest
    The denizens of labyrinth sleep
    upon the pirates treasure keep



    Now to our last place. One of the Isles we love to hate, Lava.

    Go visit the dragons and ask them kindly to move aside while you dig for the treasure chest. There will be 7 in all, one in each dragon cave. After you have all the treasure chests, bring them back to Scar-Nose Pete, and he'll take them from you and bring them to the Cap'n. You'll get your reward the next day.
    Talk to him again and remind him that you're there for your reward for the quest.

    Reward: 50 Diamond Necklaces and 250 QP
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Baba Yaga's Borscht (Jungle):
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jun 7 2017 8:26pm
    Baby Yaga's house is southeast of Jungle Temple #15 in the maze above Kylie

    Start by asking baby Yaga if she's the cruel with you've heard about. As long as you are there you may as well ask if she needs any help with anything. After all it is a good way to make money, right?
    Well what Baby Yaga wants or desires is Borscht.
    Borscht just happens to be a stew, soup or broth of beets.
    So she needs beets right? Well yes, beets and potatoes, onions, cabbage and don't forget the sour cream!
    So you'll need Four beets, three carrots, two potatoes, and onion and a head of cabbage.
    Where do we get all this? Well you will have to get the potatoes and beets from the community garden on Bird Isle, but in order to do that you will have to talk to Zachava first. Ask her also where to obtain the onion, cabbage, carrots and sour cream. The onion and cabbage she tells you William has at the Inn, and the carrots you can get from Candence's garden.
    The sour cream, she can't remember exactly which sister on Jungle makes it, she questions if it's Cookie but says that one of them does.
    Talk to Cinnamon on Jungle and she will tell you that she just made a fresh batch and that she will sell some to you for $100. Buy the sour cream, and take it with all the vegetables back to Baby Yaga.
    She's pleased with the ingredients that you brought her.

    Reward:20 Dinosaur Bones, a Badger and 105 QP
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jun 9 2017 9:57pm
    Please correct the typos from Baby Yaga to Baba Yaga.
    I was typing it late one night on my PC and am not used to the keyboard on my pc yet again. I so need a laptop again! Please make the corrections and as always, enjoy the notes!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Crazy Eddie's Octopus Rescue (Crazy Eddie Isle):
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jun 7 2017 8:50pm
    Crazy Eddie has a problem with critters on his Isle.
    some baby octopuses are stranded here. Just happened to be a big storm and it rained and some driftwood got washed ashore, and then there were these baby octopuses in it.
    So what does he need you to do? He needs you to catch them of course!
    He's looked everywhere to no avail and he doesn't know where they are. He's worried that if a rat gets on the island that it could eat the babies. He wants you to cath them so he can release them back into the ocean.

    Use your Mag glass to find them
    1. Baby octopus under double palm tree
    2. Baby octopus two steps south of first one.
    3. Baby octopus under single palm tree
    4. Baby octopus found on driftwood under single palm tree.

    Bring them Back to Crazy Eddie.
    Reward: You earned 50 Giant Coconuts and 30 QP
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Crazy Eddie's Octopus Rescue (Crazy Eddie Isle):
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jun 7 2017 8:55pm
    Crazy Eddie has a problem with critters on his Isle.
    some baby octopuses are stranded here. Just happened to be a big storm and it rained and some driftwood got washed ashore, and then there were these baby octopuses in it.
    So what does he need you to do? He needs you to catch them of course!
    He's looked everywhere to no avail and he doesn't know where they are. He's worried that if a rat gets on the island that it could eat the babies. He wants you to cath them so he can release them back into the ocean.

    Use your Mag glass to find them
    1. Baby octopus under double palm tree
    2. Baby octopus two steps south of first one.
    3. Baby octopus under single palm tree
    4. Baby octopus found on driftwood under single palm tree.

    Bring them Back to Crazy Eddie.
    Reward: You earned 50 Giant Coconuts and 30 QP
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Just me being curious..
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jun 9 2017 9:28pm
    I was redoing Dieters Scavenger Hunt over on Bay, and I saw the rewards come up as 17,500. Now, me being the curious type, I added all the rewards up and it came to 16,250 which is 1250 short of the 17,500. So I guess my question is, where does the 1250 come into the reward? Just curious is all.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Too cool!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jun 10 2017 8:51am
    Ok, this was way too cool for me last week! One of the case managers asked me if I'd come in on Wednesday, my day off around 1pm. When I asked why, she said that a federal judge was coming to visit where we worked and she'd like me to interview him for our newsletter that our group puts out every three months. Talk about pressure! This was on Tuesday and I had to come up with questions by Wednesday afternoon!
    I went out to lunch with some friends and around 12:30 they dropped me off at work. I was so nervous that my knees were shaking and so were my hands!
    Once he got there though, All my fears vanished, and sure there was a photographer/reporter there too from the local paper which the article ended up in along with a few pictures, one including me and the judge!

    Forward to this week. I called my sister in NC that I stayed with during Christmas and told her that I was in last weeks paper. Her smart response, "What did you do, get arrested?" Only sisters can say such things on the phone. *laughing out loud!* No, I told her, and later I sent her the article. Too funny, and too cool to be in the paper with a picture of a judge!
    REPLY: (by Everlend) Jun 11 2017 8:39pm
    *laughing out loud!*...My sister would have said the same thing!!!! Way to go for being in the paper! That's totally rad :)!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Piper's Return
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jul 3 2017 11:31am
    Hey all! Let's break out in party mode! I got my new laptop today and will be back on HI more often! oh my gosh I have missed not being on here since my last laptop crashed! See you all soon! Piper
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 3 2017 12:26pm
    Congrats on the new laptop!

    Welcome back Pipsy. :)
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jul 4 2017 9:22am
    Thanks! I've been going crazy not being on here as much! I had tons of Hi withdrawl when I couldn't get on, and in case ya'll can't find me on Pinto, I usually sneak over on Bay to do some quests on there where it's quiet. *laughing out loud!*. I think you'd like this one DP. a 17.3" screen, 8gb on ram, 3usb ports, 1TB of storage on HDD an SD card slot, Cd/dvd and the price was right! $400 for it! Unicorns I couldn't pass it up!
    I almost used my HI language in the store yesterday while buying it too! Unicorns I was that happy! Plus I also bought an external HDD to with 1 TB on it. This girl knows how to shop!

    See ya soon!
    Pipsy
    REPLY: (by Everlend) Jul 4 2017 8:06pm
    Welcome back Pips!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Help Please!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jul 15 2017 10:25pm
    Ok, I don't know where to put this DP, So I thought this might be the best place to do it.
    OK. I got a new computer, and HP pavillion notebook. Anyways, on the F12 button is an image of an airplane. I tried poofing to the ranch, but it won't let me. *cries* Help please!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 15 2017 10:35pm
    Try Google Chrome browser, or Firefox browser. Microsoft browsers assign different things to the function keys.
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jul 16 2017 2:24pm
    I am using Firefox. The image of the airplane turns Airplane mode on or off. So how do i get it to stop that do I can poof to ranch? unicornss it's frustrating!

    Plus I forgot which isle muy ranch is on. *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jul 16 2017 3:48pm
    oh, and one more thing. The f6, f7,f8, and f12 keys don't work on Hi on my laptop. No idea why as for unicorns sake, but this never happened with my other laptops that I had! This just had to be one of these days DP!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 16 2017 5:06pm
    According to my Google search to turn off airplane mode on an HP Pavillion notebook:

    1) In Windows, search for and open Airplane mode.
    2) Move the airplane mode slider to Off.
    3) To verify, check the taskbar for the network icon. If it's there then the mode is off.

    For the function keys, it's complicated. HP assigns them a function much like Microsoft browser does.

    If using Google Chrome still doesn't allow you to use the function keys properly, then you probably need to contact Hewlett Packard support as the Google search I did was a bit complicated and I couldn't find anything specifically for a notebook or that was recent. The only things I could find are: Try using Fn along with the F keys. That might work I don't know. If not: You have to go into the BIOS system on the computer and disable the function keys. That however is from September 2011.

    To find where your ranch is, go to the Library and search for it, then map. :)

    Firefox browser is not always working well with Adobe Flash these days. I can't use it at all right now. Safari is use-able though not great, it's a bit laggy.

    I don't know if it's Firefox vs Win. 10 or just Firefox vs Flash, but it's totally weird for me. *laughing out loud!*
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: [Game Forum] 'Releasing horses: harassment '
    REPLY: (by AppleBay) Jul 27 2017 7:45am
    Hey DP!
    I'm sure you've already done your forum rounds before coming here, but thought I'd bring this topic here too. Hope you don't think I've thrown you under the bus but I said I'd send you over to the forum to have some Admin insight *laughing out loud!*

    Also, the post I deleted was this one:

    "REPLY: (by Cresselia) Jul 27 2017 4:06am
    Well has anyone seen the player Amy's profile? She even states that she collects fail AMs and TBs (popular, valuable breeds) to release with the sole purpose of making people angry. So I think it needs be to handled accordingly or like Octopus says, done away with altogether. Releasing is pointless"

    as they mentioned another user. Thought it may lead to a witch hunt if this releasing business is becoming an issue, and if indeed Amy does have this in profile, might need some attention :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 27 2017 3:10pm
    Thanks, I posted in the thread.

    Basically it's allowed Unless... They are truly releasing like 20, 30 or more horses at a time, then it's a perm ban as it can crash the game.

    If it's just a few horses, it's allowed. If she want's to be nasty ok... It's not against the rules to be able to release horses. Released horses time out and auto-delete in 1 hour so they won't be around for very long.

    If she is rude about it in chat then violations can be assigned. If she does it all the time, a 1 point violation could possibly be given for ruining the fun for others. But I doubt it would carry much weight...
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Time off for awhile
    REPLY: (by Piper) Aug 26 2017 11:54pm
    I may be taking some time off for awhile.
    I found out that a friend and retired pastor that I'd known as a kid, passed away recently, and just this Wednesday, so did my cousin that I celebrated me birthday with. I was literally born on his birthday so we were "birthday cousins". That plus the fact that I will be in MO for a few days as well. My boyfriend and I are driving down there this coming Wednesday, I told him that we're gonna have to stop at every McDonalds on the way down for some frappes for me in order for me to stay awake! We'll have about a 10 hour drive down there, and we come back on Saturday (another 10 hour drive back!)
    I'll let you know all about the trip when I get back!
    Pipsy
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 27 2017 12:43pm
    {hugs} I'm so very sorry for your loss!

    Hang in there.
    REPLY: (by Piper) Aug 27 2017 7:21pm
    Thanks DP! Everyone here on Hi is like family to me. Those words of encouragement mean a lot to me at this time. =)
    Hope to see you on HI!
    Pipsy =)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Back fom vacation!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Sep 4 2017 7:19am
    oh my gosh! Four days of away time from the people here at home! The first day we left around 9:30 am on Wenesday and drove down to Missouri. We got there around 10:30pm and they told my bf that they'd leave the keys for him and to settle up in the morning which we did.
    The next day we caught the shuttle bus to Silver Dollar City which is a HUGE Theme/Amusement park! You should see all the roller coasters they have there! One is called Wildfire, which I said I'm never going on again! It's got 3 loops on it. the first one is a regular one and the last two turn the car sideways one way the upsidedown and turned on the side again. Thought I was gonna puke on the ride! Look it up on google. I went on other rides too that I'd go on again, but my boyfriend said he wouldn't go on The Lost River of The Ozarks again..got to wet on it! It's a big inner tube ride that holds about 6-8 people. I got the back of my shirt soaked, my shoes and socks totally soaked, my shorts were wet and I wanted to ride it again! Maybe next year, right?
    I love rides like that! Coming back we stopped at the Titanic Museum went through there, then found a place to eat and was on our way back home. My GPS said we'd be home around 1:15 am..(it lied) We made 2 stops for gas and 1 rest stop so then it said 2:15am. (lied)) We got back at 3am!
    Now I'm back and have to get into my daily rut of things.
    Hope to see you all on HI!
    Pipsy
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 4 2017 12:03pm
    Welcome back. Glad you had fun! :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Hello
    REPLY: (by DarkFaerie) Nov 8 2017 7:17am
    Just curious as to how many of us are still around? Poor Pipsy looks to be the only contributor to the forums haha!
    I nip on from time to time just for an hour here and there when I can, other than that super busy with the kids and studying BA honours degree in Business Management specialising in Accountancy at uni. Never really see anyone while on but probably because I'm in the UK rather than the US.
    For those of you that know Homer, he's good. Started a new job last year driving buses so he's working 70 hours a week doing that and loving it! We are like passing ships in the night at the moment but hoping to have some time together next weekend.
    How is everyone else doing? Anything new or exciting happening?
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 11 2017 9:05am
    I'm still around although life has taken over in the form of work, and I try to get on every once in awhile when I can. Back in the the last part of August, me and my boyfriend took a road trip to MO for a few days. Sure.. takes about 10 hours to drive down from MN, but coming back, we left there around 10am , stopped at the Titanic Museum, and got back in MN around 3am Sunday morning. We had left the Wednesday before, so I was tired being that I was up since 8 am that day. ugh, over 19 hrs of being awake. Sometimes I wonder how people do it!
    I got my 5 yr award from work this year so I am happy about that. Now, for thanksgiving, I'll go to my brothers, which thankfully is only about 1 1/2 hours away from where I live. No plans for Christmas yet although one of my housemates here keeps asking me about Easter plans..Oh help me! It cracks me up sometimes and then it just gets annoying.
    It took me a little longer to get the quests done this time as i got stuck on one of them, but they did get posted so check them out!
    Pipsy
    REPLY: (by Everlend) Nov 11 2017 3:01pm
    I'm still around as well. Very busy with work and life in general. I still get on from time to time to check in. For those of you that remember EgyptianFeline, she is getting ready to have her first baby which means I get to be an auntie :).
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 11 2017 3:59pm
    Great to hear that Everlend! I know you're going to be the best Auntie ever that spoils that kid! Besides, you gotta do it once in awhile. Or two or three. *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Nov 26 2017 1:48pm
    I'm still around sometimes :) Nice to see you guys!

    I'm still doing my dog grooming business, but working a couple of nights a week in a care home. I'm doing my level 3 in Health and Social Care so I can start studying to be an Assistant Practitioner next year, which is one step away from nursing. Exciting plans, we'll see how they go!

    Being an Auntie is one of the most amazing experiences. If any of you remember PoisonIvy (She is a mod and is my sister) her little girl (my niece) just turned two on Tuesday!! Can't believe how fast that time has gone!!
    REPLY: (by PoisonIvy) Dec 10 2017 12:14pm
    Veryy ocasionally im still around when i get a break from being a mum haha! I had a look before and ive had my account for ten years now! i still try and get on but lifes busy...
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 27 2017 8:18pm
    I've had one of the best Christmases ever this year! I got a Kindle fire from my sister and her family that live in North Carolina and from my other sister, her daughter and her daughter's better half, they sent me some frosted drinking glasses with the Minnesota state on it and everything that Minnesota is known for.
    One thing however is that my next Christmas will be this coming January 7th at my brothers and I'm happy but kind of nervous at the same time. You see we draw the names that we buy for anonymously on a web site and I got my boyfriends name.
    All he wants is gift cards to restaurants like Culver's, Denny's. Bakers Square, Hu Hot, (Mongolian rest, a buffet you go through and they grill or cook your food on this huge grill. Cool to watch. Or he said "Surprise me." Now saying that to a mod? Watch out.
    Okay, so here's his "surprise." I finally got the ring paid off, and I'm wrapping it up and giving it to him on our Christmas. What he's gonna say, I have no idea! Other than that he's getting popcorn and a candle from me. I hope all goes well cause I'm nervous as all get out!
    I'll keep you updated! Happy belated Christmas to you all!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 27 2017 8:20pm
    Geez I cant spell restaurant right? *laughing out loud!*
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 17 2018 5:37pm
    Well everyone, I've had a bit of a setback here.
    Sunday night, I was going to go downstairs to my room where my laptop is and I knew my left knee had been giving out on me that day and I tried to grab the railing as it did give out but landed on the floor hitting it hard.
    It hurt so much that night that I barely slept ad the next day I didn't go to work at all. I have an appointment on Friday (the earliest they could get me in) to see what I did to it.
    To add as they say insult to injury, I had gone to the store to get a brace for my knee, brought it home and tried it. A One size fits most. Most yes. Me? no. So I had to return it.
    So I hobble around the house here only going up and down the stairs if need be.

    By the way, I told you all what he'd say to the present I gave him? He said yes!
    REPLY: (by CometChaser) Jan 26 2018 10:20am
    Hello, I still try to hop on here when I can. I hope your knee is feeling better Piper and congratulations!
    REPLY: (by DarkFaerie) Feb 7 2018 2:48am
    Congratulations Pipsy :) Hope your knee has improved? Sometimes superficial damage is worse than broken bones, especially when it comes to knees. I too have experience of that, many years ago and still have issues now sometimes.
    REPLY: (by Piper) Mar 31 2018 3:42pm
    Thanks! If all of ya'll are wondering, it's not gonna be a winter wedding, so we agreed on a spring one in May of next year, the 25th to be exact.

    Catch ya'll later here on HI!
    Pipsy
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Aug 10 2018 3:35am
    Congratulations, Piper!! Exciting news :)
    REPLY: (by Rustler) Aug 10 2018 9:18pm
    Congratulations Pip! I am still around off and on. I started a business about a year and a half ago so I have been pretty busy.
    REPLY: (by CollieMom) Oct 28 2018 10:29am
    Hello everyone!! I am also back from a very very long hiatus. Had some health issues and new job changes but everyone is back on track so I finally had time to come back. Lost everything on Palo so I started again on Pinto. Really enjoying doing all these quests again!! *laughing out loud!*
    So just wanted to jump on and say Hi!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 20 2018 11:15pm
    Hello CollieMom! Welcome back to Pinto!
    It's always great to have another mod on here!
    Sadly, my life outside of HI with work, family and trying to get my stuff for my wedding arranged is taking its toll on me and therefore have not been on a lot lately.
    I'll try to get on once in awhile. Catch ya later! Pipsy
    REPLY: (by Desertmorn) Dec 25 2018 4:36pm
    I'm back - its been years but Xmas Eve we needed a mod so here I am. Congrats Piper!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Barbette's and Humpty's quests
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 11 2017 8:50am
    Barbette's Budding Friendship(Rider Isle/Harbormistress):

    Talk to Barbette Dingee. She wouldn't have an odd job or errand for you to do now, would she? After all you would like to save money for some new tack after all! As it turn out, yes she does! She wants you to take this package to hank Halyard which she says should make him chuckle. Take the package to Hank and give it to him. He's laughing even before he opens it. Guess he ain't gonna tell us what it is! Well now, he gives you a package to take back to her. Well, she got was she was hoping for and was tickled pink!
    Reward: 10,000 and 25QP


    Humpty's Lost Love (Cloud Isle):

    Humpty lives on the cloud that north of the one with the candy maze on it. The same one Peter Pumpkin resides on.
    Talk to Patience over on Bird. Mention that the name Humpty must mean something to her that was deep and personal, but somehow she's sure that she's never met him. Yes the whole thing with the tarantula can be embarrassing but he really meant no harm in it he just wanted to impress her father, well because he was in love with you.
    Whoa wait a minute, Lovely? did she just say that? Taratulas, lovely? this can't be the same person that was scared of them , can it? Patience sings like a lark, but the trauma it made her forget! Well next stop Grant, Talk to him because Patience remembered him saying something about someone with a beautiful voice.
    Grant says there was someone on Bird, but she left, Bird Isle was too small. Now to find the groundskeeper whose her uncle.
    The groundskeeper happens to be Mortimer himself over on Starfish Isle. Talk to him about Patience. She just happens to be his niece who was there about a week ago. Now he told you that she wanted to wish on a unicorn..wait that can't be right.
    Go to Kirby in Ashton on Lava Isle. Tell him the story of Patience and Humpty. Now you find out that Patience is afraid of heights so she'd never be on cloud Isle. Kirby tells you she wouldn't live anywhere that has spiders, so that rules out all the desert isles for sure!
    Now the wishing on a unicorn you figure has to be Horn Isle. And fishing! Fishing on Horn! so go talk to Nikara the owner of Fish and Rocks on the very northern tip of Horn Isle about Patience. Turns out she's fishing on the shorelines not far from his front door! Let's go find her!
    Talk to Little Miss Moufet. You ask her, Patience, if yo may talk with her. Well , it is a long story but the short of it, Humpty wanted you to find her. Oh boy, she does not like Humpty's name.. at all. The mere mention of it makes her mad! Try to assure her that Humpty's love is real and he's never hurt her again like that. He's never spoken to her, never tried to find her, she's mad at him. She obviously won't be his true love anymore. Poor Humpty. Back to him to give him a piece of your mind for her.
    Reward: $350,000 50 Silver Linings and 200 QP

    Humpty's Small Favor (Cloud Isle):

    Humpty wants to buy a pet for his mom for her birthday but doesn't know what to get. Go to his mom which is across the way on the same cloud and ask where his father is. He's out looking at cloud gazing. so he should be near the house. Wander around till you find him.
    Name of some pets that you think Humpty might want to give his mom, but oh no not a turtle! Okay, so nothing with feathers or fur, or hooves r scales. so that eliminates cats, dogs, horses, lizards, birds, cows and probably gerbils too. So nothing that slithers, hops or crawls. it has to be yellow though..her favorite color.
    This may be a little harder than you thought at first.
    Don't buy everything you can thing of that's yellow. Get the Rubber Ducky and bring it back to Humpty. He's so happy with it to give to her!
    Reward: 50,000 and 75 QP
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Just to let you know
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 12 2017 4:56pm
    Just to let you know that if ya'll can't find me on pinto then I sometimes go over to Bay to do some quests over there.
    So now you know where ti find me if I'm not on Pinto. And if I'm not on Bay, well then I'm at work or haven't logged in yet. See ya'll around!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Corn Husks For Vega
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 27 2017 8:21pm
    Talk to Vega and they invite you to join them for a bite to eat since they're already going to sit down to eat soon. You however, decide to pass and hope that you can find some errands to run for them to earn some money.
    Well, she just used the last of her corn husks in making her tamales. You'd need to ask Bettina for them and to add it to her monthly list.
    She explains that since the isle is a bit toother from the other isles, they try to be self-suffficient, but then there are thing that they need from other isles so Bettina keeps a running list and about once a month someone will stop by to do their shopping.
    So, back to the corn husks. She wants six dozen of them and Bettina can tell you where to get them from. Since the grocery deliveries were made, no worries about that.
    Bettina owns the Howling Moon Boutique on Dog Isle.
    Talk to her about information on the shopping list and what it might pay. Go talk to the people on the island to see what they might need and bring the list back to Benitta.
    Once you're done talking to all of them ( and make sure you find the gal on the shore by the dog's nose, who does wander by the way), take the list to Bettina for her to look over.

    Here's our shopping list:
    Isaac - 2 dozen oyster shells---Rocco Shale
    Vega - 6 dozen corn husks---Ben Burlap, General Store in Tropicton, Jungle Isle
    Twyla - oil of orange---Charla Mae in Hotton
    Ociel - book on clouds - Shellton Library
    Ociel - 2 bags of popcorn for his wife -- Wington, Bird Isle
    Jocosa - 3 Minorca Chickens --Wington Pet Store, Talk to owner
    By the way, you want to make sure everyone initials the list upon delivery of their order. (Bettina looks over your shopping list.) Rocco loves eating oysters. Ben up north carries corn husks. Ociel told you where to get the book. The rest should be easy enough to find. (She hands back the list.)

    Double palm southeast of rock shop on the south side. I found the first one there with my mag glass, then raked there four more times to find some more.
    Go one step south and rake again for four more. You should have 9 by now.
    Two steps south of the rock shop, rake up 3 more. Ok! We got 1 dozen, just one more to go! We can do this!

    Go one step to the west and rake up 5 more! Hey we're up to 17! Just 7 more to go!
    Go one step south again and uncover 2 more by raking.
    Go west and one step south. Rake there to uncover another 3 oyster shells! Two more to go!
    Southwest of the rockshop on thebeach is a single palm tree. Stand south of it on the beach and rake for 1 oyster shell
    Down to the last one! Stand south of the single palm tree and move one step east. Rake for your final oyster shell!
    Phew! What a workout that was!

    For the last thing you need is the chickens. Go to the Wington pet shop and talk to Kay. She tells you that she has to order the birds and that it might be a few days. Talk to her a second time , and isn't that great timing! They've been dropped off and all you gotta do now is pay for them. That's gonna cost you $1200 for them, two chickens and a rooster.

    Deliver the items to the folks on Dog Isle. They'll give you money for it.
    Ociel, the Clouds Book and 2 bags of Popcorn. You were paid $2,000.
    Corn Husks to Vega and received $2500.
    You delivered the Oil of Orange Peel to Twyla and received $1900.
    You gave Isaac 2 dozen Oyster Shells. You were given $4000.
    You gave Jocosa a Crate of Minorca Fowl. You were paid $5000.

    Finally stop by Bettina's again for her to put that list into her log, and for your reward.
    Reward: 125k and 100 QP
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 27 2017 8:25pm
    Vega is located on Dog Isle
    REPLY: (by Desertmorn) Dec 25 2018 10:30pm
    I absolutely love the way you share the quests!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Ira's Gratitude
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 27 2017 8:24pm
    Talk to Ira. He's back from vacation and he had a wonderful time! He went cross-country skiing. He isn't fond of screaming down the mountainside on his skis so all in all he had a perfect vacation! To top it off, his neighbors held a surprise birthday party when he got home!
    He doesn't miss the snow as much as the home cooking. He stayed with Cedric and since neither one of them are good in the kitchen, Jeremy saved them by bringing over dinner.
    Jeremy's name doesn't ring a bell with you but you offer to go pick up the thank you gift for Ira, it'll be your chance to meet Jeremy this way.
    Sonce Jeremy likes cooking so much , Ira ordered him a set of cooking utensils. He didn't order them from Simon since he doesn't like things that are out of the ordinary, so he ordered them from Sasha instead.
    Sasha runs the general store in Treeton. go there and pick up the gift for Jeremy. Ira has told you that Jeremy lives in Chillton over on Snow Isle. It does get chilly there, so bundle up!
    Jeremy is at the General Store along with Tony Grocer. Give him the gift that Ira had bought for him and is surprised at the gift but tells you that he'd cook for that guy any day of the week!
    Reward: 25k and 50 QP
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 27 2017 8:24pm
    Ira is located in Earton
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: I can't wait!!
    REPLY: (by Piper) May 3 2018 9:15pm
    Oh my gosh! I can't wait till the 23rd of May! Why? Because my fiance and I are driving down to Missouri to spend a few relaxing days at a them park, going on rides, eating food, buying things to bring home, etc.

    Hopefully we won't get stuck behind the guy with the boat like we did last year! Every time that we took an exit to eat or get gas, we;d be good, until we got back on the road and who would we see about ten minutes later pulling up in front of us from an exit to get back on the same highway? The guy with the boat.
    Happened all the way down to out destination!
    It was too funny! Anyways, 20 days and counting. No worries though. I am taking my laptop with me like I did last year so I can log in every once in awhile to HI and see what's going on!

    Catch ya later!
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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 4 2018 11:39am
    *laughing out loud!* Enjoy Piper! :)
    REPLY: (by Piper) May 27 2018 2:02pm
    Well, we left here last Wednesday to go down to MO around 8am in the morning. Along the way we had some stops both to eat and at rest stops to get out and stretch.
    We made it down there (going around the road construction of course)in due time and got there around 10:45 pm
    Thankfully the office closed at 11 so we made it just in time!
    Thursday we went to the theme park to ride the rides and pig out on the food.
    It was going good till one of the rides we wanted to go on was shut down (along with some of the other bigger rides) due to lightning in the area just 10 miles SW of us.
    You wouldn't have even known it being it was a bright sunny day too, but they weren't taking no chances.
    About an hour and half later it was up and running again along with the other rides. Since we didn't go on any water rides that day we planned to go then next day.
    Our last day at the Theme park on Friday, I told him I was getting hot and wanted to go on one of the water rides. So as we are heading up to where the ride entrance is the guys sayss "I'll save you few steps. The rides closed. The brakes aren't working on the ride so they shut it down, they don't want anyone getting hurt." Great, I thought. That was the second ride tht was shut down that day. The first one was a coaster ride and we had to wait about 10 minutes before we could get on it. They were sending the empty cars through because one of the employees heard it make a sound that it hadn't before and they were sending out the mechanics to look at it. We did get to go on that one, but after being turned away from the water ride, the inevitable happens. It begins to rain, and I mean pour! So then AL
    L the rides are closed, everyone is headed for the gates and the souvenir shop and to pick up their gifts that they had bought that day at the park.
    We were talking to one family while waiting for our bus only to find out that they'd been there all week, from Sunday and were leaving Saturday.
    We left Saturday morning and did some sightseeing before really leaving. Finally got on the road a bit after 1pm and got home round 3:30am One heck of a long day being up. 'of course,all that pop helped too.
    Now I'm just being lazy and resting up today.
    Catch ya'll later!!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Anastacia's Cargo
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 21 2018 7:49am
    Anastacia's Cargo
    Anastaccia is the Glacier Isle Dock Mistress. Start up a conversation with her about any odd jobs or errands that need doing. Well, she tells you that a cargo ship is coming in, so just check and Go to each houlsehold to get an item to bring back to Anastacia.
    Lesia- Sent a Pysanky. A beautiful egg for the Easter Bunny
    Olena -packet of notes
    Svetlana - Embroidered Curtains
    Reward: A necklace a Rat and 35QP
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    Thanks Piper!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Postmaster's Mystery Delivery (Horse Isle ):Mane Forest
    REPLY: (by Piper) Nov 30 2018 8:00pm
    This was probably one of the longest quests I have ever done. After doing 50+ deliveries, you’ll have the option to ask the Postmaster why he looks so confused. He’ll tell you that a mysterious letter showed up with no information on it. Ok, so now I feel a quest coming on here. Then he tells you to take it up to Michaela in Earton. Head up to the library and ask her what’s up. She sends you off to someone on Jungle Isle…with the only information being that the name probably starts with a ‘K’. Head down to southern Jungle Isle to find Karta She's east of Jungle temple 2 and does move around so she never stays in one spot, which is annoying. She tells you to fold the map according to the directions in the mysterious letter, and then tells you how mathematical quadrants work, which actually confused me. You may have to print out a picture of the Horseisle map and fold it up. When you go straight down from the sign in Mane Forest by the ranches, you'll hit a pine tree. Go two steps east of the tree (by the Pawneers) and dig. You’ll end up shattering a jewelry box with 5 Diamond Necklaces in it, so return to the Postmaster now.
    Reward; $100,000 and 100 quest points.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 17 2018 12:32pm
    Thanks Piper! :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Smelly Toe's Woes
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 1 2018 3:17pm
    Go to Crossbones and Talk to Smelly Toes the pirate to ses how he's doing, I mean it has been awhile after all since the last quest that you've seen him and you've noticed that he's an artist now too!
    Turns out he's rather proud of his work but as usual, he needs a favor. Why does this not surprise me? Well, seems like he's got hundreds of bug bites that are literally itching him to no end. Agree to help him and hurry to get him some relief soon! His artwork is suffering for it too, not to mention him!
    Go back to Smelly Toes after doing some thinking, and ask if he'd be okay with the solution you have. Well. what is it? Chickens! Yep you heard right Chickens! It seems that Jocosa has chickens that love to eat sand fleas.
    Oh no! Smelly want to eat the chicken? No we want the chicken there to give him relief from the sand fleas so he and his art don't suffer anymore than it has to.
    Don't bother going to Dog Isle to talk to Jocosa. She won't say a thing to you except "I'm collecting seashells by the seashore, kicking up the seashore sand! "
    Go to Bird Isle instead and Talk to Kay at the pet shop. Mention the chickens you ordered for Jocosa and that another person needs some for sand fleas as well, but that they live on Pirate Isle makes a bug difference when you tell her that.
    Ok. First she tells you about the different feed and that you'll need supplemental feed for your chickens and also that we'd be better off with a different breed than what Jocosa got. She tells us that we need the Partridge Penedesenca, how they're small, heat-hardy and alert. There is one catch and I hate catches.
    Ok, so this breed is making a comeback, however all she has are baby chicks which are well, pricy. $2300 for half a dozen chicks and $200 for a large bag of chicken food. Take them back to Smelly Toe's who is as happy as can be with his little guests and gives you a nice reward!
    Reward: 4 Diamond Necklaces, the bag of 'worthless glitter' held 37 Wishing Coins and 35 QP!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Moldy Socks & The 3 Dares
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 2 2018 3:22pm
    Moldy Socks & The 3 Dares (Tropicton Swamp/Yellow Brick Isle): Pre Req Cerise and the Swamp Stench
    In order to start this quest you will have to complete Cerise & the Swamp Stench first.
    After that's finished, Talk to Moldy Socks again to start this quest.
    He sends you to see a witch toad that put this hex on his raven to get a potion to remove it. Go to Yellow Brick Isle and talk to Elphiblah. She's on the Western sideof the isle by the rocks and cacti. Be warned, she does move around so to find her faster, get off your horse and do it.
    You tell her that you need her help because you don't want to vex a wizard so he'll hex you. As she puts it, you are in a pickle. What you want is a reversal potion for his raven.
    Sure you can get the potion from her. You just have to do a few things is all. Why did I see this coming? There's always a catch.
    She calls it The Three Dares. If you don't finish is, well you won't like the penalty.
    Elphiblah: The first dare - to bring me physical proof that the legend of a frightful most hideous beast is more than just foolish chatter.
    The second dare - to fetch me a skein of the silken strands of a most accomplished spinner.
    And lastly, the third dare - to present me with a rare and magical gryphon's egg.
    After you get all three items. bring them back to Elphiblah. talk with her about the potion and do be nice in asking for it.
    Bring the potion to Moldy Socks and give it to him.
    Oh great! Now he disappeared! Better go find him so we can get our reward.
    You will have to search for him as he may not be in the same place but for me he was in the middle part of the swamp on the eastern side. Talk to him and get your reward.
    Reward: Elephant Calf and 200 QP
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 2 2018 3:39pm
    I forgot to say this. For the 3 dares visit Grendel, Elvira and the go to Basalt and rake for an egg in the top most cave. You'll get 7 shards. Then to go see Lesia and she will fix it for you at no cost.
    REPLY: (by CollieMom) Dec 2 2018 5:23pm
    Also, for the second dare, Elvira needs 24 Pixie Dust and 12 Silver Linings to make the skein of silken stands. :)
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    :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Cerise & The Swamp Stench
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 2 2018 3:35pm
    Cerise & The Swamp Stench (Tropicton/Jungle Isle):
    Cerise is the Produce Manager at the Tropicton Food Store. You learn that Nana needed help in the store. Obviously Nana had a hard time tracking her down. Now why would that be?
    Well, no wonder she had a hard time! Cerise was off island hopping and been to all sorts of places until she's here. In fact, she doesn't plan to stay in one place for too long.
    Seeing all kinds of different fruits in her travels made her convince Nana to 'broaden her horizon' as they say.
    Well as you are low on cash and need and odd job to do Cerise could actually use your help!
    Nana's upset because the change in the wind, blew in and odor that came from the swamp, a most hideous smell, and it isn't good for business. Cerise has been too busy to check if something has been rotting in the swamp, so will you do it?
    A couple steps west of the mini game is where I found Moldy Socks Festus, Swamp Mage of Jungle Isle. Wow! Big name and long title! For now we'll call him Moldy Socks. Now he does move around a bit so the next time you go to find him, he may be a few steps away from where he was, but he's always near the swamp area.
    Mody Socks wants your help. you tell him you need his help in getting rid of the stinky smell, and he locks his lips. Ok, well then fine, I'll leave. That gets his attention. Now you need information from him about the stinky smell and he need your help.
    Now he wants you to help him with his bird..the crow.
    For one, he's stiff as aboard.
    Doesn't squeak a peep
    Doesn't blink his eye or peck the wizards cheek ( ok whatever)
    After a bit of talking you finally got him to tell you where he buried it. Between two swamp trees.
    After you find it go back to him to find out what caused it was a spell that backfired. Great. Now you have to deordorize it. But with what? Talk to Cerise about it and then Talk to Smiddy Jones the blacksmith. He'll give you Charcoal powder.
    Use your mag glass in the swamp to find the locations where the sludge is and when you find one dig. You'll eventually find it and then put the charcoal in that nasty smelly area. Go back to Cerise to let her know about the stench and that it's gone.
    You Completed Cerise & The Swamp Stench Quest. You earned $10,000, 35 Giant Coconuts and 50 quest points.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: MGQ- Belwyn's Revenge
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 2 2018 9:52pm
    MGQ- Belwyn's Revenge (Igenous Isle):

    When you first land on Igneous, if you're riding dismount and walk six steps to the right and one down and use your shovel to find a small chest. Talk to Cupid just north for any suggestions. He tells you of a mage on Magma Isle. Go to the volcano on the left side of the island and wander around it until you find Oddly. Unfortunately, he does wander, but you will find him within a relatively small radius, so he shouldn’t be too hard to find. Listen to Oddly’s long winded story and then ask him to send you to Tephra Isle. He also tells you that you can dig at the southeast corner of the isle to get back to Magma. Belwyn seems to hang out in the same spot, so he gives you a list of bizarre things to pick up:

    1 Garden Gnome
    1 Pinch of Pixie Dust
    3 Chunks of Obsidian
    1 Bunch of Flies
    7 Marshmallows
    3 Bananas
    1 Owl
    Flamingos can be found around Wington and owls can be bought at the pet shop there. The gnomes you can find on Dolphin Isle around the houses and the flies are found around mud holes. Why he's need them is beyond me! Bananas can be bought in the food store on Jungle Isle. Return to Belwyn; unless you have a Uni/Peg you’ll have to find Oddly again. After delivering everything to him, he asks you to take something to Hyrokkin, the Sea Hag who is on the southern part of Berg Isle. Apparently he sent her the gift of penitence. Return to Belwyn and tell him what her reaction was. Map Graph Quest - Belwyn's Revenge! You earned $125,000 and 100 QP
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: MGQ- A Crab's Request
    REPLY: (by Piper) Dec 2 2018 10:01pm
    MGQ- A Crab's Request (Whorl Isle):
    This is a follow-up for the Postmaster's Quest. For the coordinates (-2,-1) go to Whorl Isle. On the first ring (the biggest) go where the picture shows; its almost directly beneath the dock. Talk to Charlotte for a bit and she asks you to send a message to her brother and then sends you off to an island. Find Dursley on the northern part of the island and now he asks you to take the message to Ebenezer on Welcome Isle. You can either use a unicorn or just ride the sea turtle there. Remember that Ebenezer is one step to the right and one step down from the big boulder. Ebenezer says that Charlotte wants a Great Pyrenees. Head down to Treeton and buy one for 66k. Return to Charlotte with the dog. She’ll give you 17 Dinosaur Bones, but remember to head back to Ebenezer for your reward. Ebenezer tells you where he buried the necklaces, but don’t bother looking and just tell him you can’t find them. He tells you he didn’t bury them on this island. So let's head over to Ring Isle and go south of the observatory and dig on the rocks on the beach across from the brown pine tree. Reward: 17 Diamond Necklaces and 75 QP.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Huge Thank you to Piper
    REPLY: (by Desertmorn) Dec 25 2018 4:47pm
    For all the time and efforts you have put into directions for the quests.

    :)
    REPLY: (by CollieMom) Dec 27 2018 3:18pm
    Yes!! She has been a huge help for me since I had to redo every quest when I moved from Palo to Pinto :)
    REPLY: (by Desertmorn) Dec 28 2018 1:30pm
    Me too! Such a pain when you have to start from scratch. I especially don't like the cloud coins, carrot runs or pirate caves. Shudder!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 20 2019 10:02pm
    You're all so very welcome. I've had a lot of fun doing it, it just didn't seem like this many years has passed since I took it over in 2009 I think. I believe When Meri was doing it , that it originally had about 300 quests in it, and now it's up to 710 quests over 12 years. And I'm not giving it up for a long time either! I'll catch ya'll later!
    Pipsy
    REPLY: (by Desertmorn) Feb 8 2019 10:10pm
    <3
    REPLY: (by Piper) Feb 10 2019 12:42pm
    *laughing out loud!* It may have been a bit of a pain, or better word for it a challenge, but in the end it was all worth the time put into it. Never think I don't like quests..even if they do take me a bit longer than usual.
    You do get very creative on them and that's what makes them challenging. So, maybe I should have said that instead of the other word. But, to all who think up these crazy quests, Kudos to all of you! You even kept me thinking on Cerise and the Swamp Stench one too over on Jungle. Keep up the great work!
    <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
    REPLY: (by Desertmorn) Feb 16 2019 10:45pm
    Thank you so much, Piper. I do try to keep things entertaining. :)
    REPLY: (by Everlend) Feb 26 2019 10:02pm
    Thank you Pipsy for all your hardwork and dedication!!!
    REPLY: (by PoisonIvy) May 12 2020 11:27am
    You're amazing Pip thank you! When I get to pop on in-between nappy changes and nap time I actually get quests done because of you *laughing out loud!*
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Aleyska, RIP
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 14 2019 12:57pm
    We have been informed that Aleyska passed away last evening from a heart attack. 1-13-19 US date.

    May she rest in eternal peace.

    I'm really going to miss her. :'(
    REPLY: (by Desertmorn) Jan 15 2019 11:34am
    I'm so sorry. I don't think I knew her.
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 16 2019 12:56am
    I'm going to miss you too Aly. I so used to kid her and call her Ally Cat for her nickname and she'd love to call me pip or pips. May you be at eternal rest now Ally. I'll always remember the friendship that we had on here, even if we never met in person you were like family to me. Pip
    REPLY: (by AppleBay) Jan 19 2019 1:05pm
    Oh so very saddened to be reading this
    RIP sweet Al
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: MGQ Frank’s Mysterious Catch
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 20 2019 8:04pm
    MGQ Frank’s Mysterious Catch (Appleton/Cloud):

    Start this quest by talking with Hedda in the Appleton Inn and she will send you to Frank, the Fish Shop Owner, in Appleton. He gives you coordinates which you're supposed to have a map for. Anyways, without the map you're gonna be lost. So if you want to make yourself the map go talk to Karta on Jungle and she tells you to go search the tall rock East of her for the directions because she's carved it into the stone.

    Just a note for you: This does take you to Cloud so when you get there yo may want to rent a Uni or UniPeg Which ever is to your liking. I didn't have one so I had to go back to Winchell a couple of times with the giant coconuts, which was a pain.

    Thoe stone is literrally a hop skip and jump to the east (right) with some trees surrounding it
    Youll find this on it.

    Compass to Clouds & fold in 1/2 again 2x. Open to start again
    Pirate’s Hat to Compass, fold in 1/2 again once more. Against a light
    map’s backside to you, Clouds on bottom right. Epicenter is #zero
    number vertex from center out.

    You'll then need to go find Contrary Larry on Cloud Isle, he wanders around the trees east of Peter, the Pumpkin Eater. Lary does move around a bit but not much Which I am thankful for!

    He'll tell you his garden keeps falling through the clouds. If you go to where the balloon drops you off at cloud from Jungle, theres a little grove of three trees above the road. You need to dig right below the smaller tree on the right. It will take you to another isle, You'll find a colorful list of characters there. Bruiser, Blaze, Quackers, Curlicue. However you will need to wander around until you talk to Theodosia, Ricochet, and then Mr. Poppers.

    After you've talked to them head back to Contrary Larry and tell him why it happened and make a suggestion. He'll give you 25 Moonbeams and 25 Silver Linings Go back and tell Frank what you have found.
    Reward:12 Large Fish, 50,000 and 150 quest points.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 21 2019 4:53pm
    Thanks again! :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Hedda's Tall Tale
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 20 2019 9:49pm
    Hedda's Tall Tale(Appleton Inn):
    This quest is a pain. I found that out from the get go.

    First talk to Hedda again. She tells you that her husband George had an interesting person come by recently. He tells him tales if all sorts. From monkeys in a barrel to gnomes bones. Oh don't forget the Irish Elf or the giant mushrooms or the flowers maze! No go figure! Monkeys that steal bananas> Maybe he is a little bananas himself they're already thinking. I would too if I hadn't seen this stuff on here before,
    Hedda also tells you hepaidto stay the night and was left before they had even gotten up. Strange thing is, he left this box behind thT can't be opened.
    Now any moves to where he went is unatainable...or is it?


    You will do a lot of traveling so I would rent a Peggy for it. I don't know about you, but I hate spending boat fare when you can warp there on a Peggy

    And for those of you looking for Josten, they are in Joylyn's cabin

    *You will need 1 strawberry for this quest*

    Fergus O'Toole clue and 2 ferrets

    Felton dino bones

    Mona-- chickens

    Wington Pet Shop

    Cat Isle Dock Master

    Hare Isle Dock Master

    Jungle Dock Master

    Vern

    Jungle Food Store Owner

    Hazel

    Earton Dock Master

    Griffin

    Demetrius

    Polar Isle Dock Master

    Whorl Isle Dock Master

    Cabin Isle Dock Master

    Cabin Isle Store Keeper

    Frannie Oakley

    Go to palm tree cluster straight east of Frannie's house to get the monkey
    Go back to Frannie

    Crazy Eddie - he asks for one strawberry to tell you where to go next

    Hudson

    Josten

    Return to Hedda and tell her that Josten will come by to get the box.
    Reward: You earned $110,000 and 300 quest points
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 21 2019 4:52pm
    Thanks :)
    REPLY: (by Desertmorn) Jan 27 2019 8:21am
    Sorry you didn't like the quest, Piper. I hope the rewards help make up for it.
    REPLY: (by Piper) Feb 10 2019 12:50pm
    It's challenging for sure, but I think that I should have use that word instead of "pain" now. Quests that you all think up for us are made to make us think and think hard. Even if it takes me a week to do it..I'll finish it.
    Yes, the rewards at the end are great and do make up for the time well spent on it too. Sorry if I worded it wrongly, but I do enjoy the quests, and couldn't think of anyone better than for ya'll to write them. Kudos to ya! Keep up the great work! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
    REPLY: (by Desertmorn) Feb 16 2019 10:43pm
    It's always a struggle to find a balance with writing the quests- so many of the long-time players want to be challenged, other players want the quests to be quick and easy. I'm always trying to find a way to bring something new to the table. I must admit, this one was a struggle for me to create, because I had to start at the end, knowing where it would begin, and work backwards. Several times I confused myself! It is always a pleasure to create a quest someone enjoys. I'm always hoping that I succeed in at least creating a smile. :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Leontine Hears A Hoot
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 21 2019 3:13pm
    Leontine is a crazy lady. Walk around till you find her because she does move around a bit.
    Start talking to her and she will ask you if you are them who they are I have no idea, but I play along with it anyway. But what noise is she going on about? Something's hooting. Well we learn that there's hooting over by the cave . Okay, I guess we have a quest on out hands to find out who or what is making that noise
    Directly above the cave in the grove of trees you will find Gneville. Talk to him for a bit and he will tell you that Leontine is scared of owls!
    Go back to Leontine and keep him a secret from her but tell her that it was owls making the noise.
    Reward: 22 Rubies and 25 Quest Points
    REPLY: (by Piper) Jan 21 2019 3:14pm
    This quest Takes place on Rain Isle and you don't need anything for it
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jan 21 2019 4:51pm
    Thanks Piper!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Changed my name
    REPLY: (by DesertWind) Mar 11 2019 6:32pm
    Just so you know who I am, I was DesertPaint. Changed my name to DesertWind, getting ready for HI3! *laughing out loud!*

    I no longer have my paint mare and it kind of makes me sad when I think of her so... Needed a different name.

    Well, I do live in a desert and there is a ton of wind here... *nods*
    REPLY: (by Desertmorn) Mar 13 2019 10:32pm
    Love that we still share the desert part! :)
    REPLY: (by DesertWind) Mar 14 2019 11:23am
    :)
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Mar 20 2019 12:51pm
    I love it!!
    REPLY: (by Piper) Mar 23 2019 9:30am
    Now I'll have to name one of my horses DesertWind too! I named one DesertPaint before too! Yes I do love it but it will take me awhile to get used to it.
    REPLY: (by DesertWind) Mar 23 2019 11:54am
    *laughing out loud!* Yeah, it's taking me a bit to get used to it as well.
    REPLY: (by PoisonIvy) May 12 2020 11:29am
    Im a full year late but love it!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 12 2020 1:10pm
    I've changed back to DesertPaint *laughing out loud!*.

    Too many people just couldn't get used to the "wind" part.
    REPLY: (by PoisonIvy) May 13 2020 9:02am
    hahah it is better and I don't actually have to remember who you are now I just know *laughing out loud!*
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    I had noticed that you did. DesertWind or DesertPaint you're still the same person. Welcome back all the same DP!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: MMRB 2
    REPLY: (by Piper) Mar 28 2019 9:26pm
    As the MMRB has gotten bigger over the years, I thought it best to start a second one with all the current notes from the quests here in the forum. I also have included in Jungle Temples 16-20 which were previously missing in the other one.

    I didn't want to send it to Miranda in 4 or 5 parts so I thought this would be best. I hope a lot of you still have your MMRB's from a few years ago. Sorry it took awhile to get the notes together, but work and personal life have a strange way of butting in and telling you "Do it tomorrow."

    Contact her for the MMRB 2nd version. I will be adding onto it also as I did the first. This way you can take quests from the second version and add it to your other or keep both as they are.

    Hope you enjoy it!
    Piper!
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Apr 8 2019 7:31am
    This is awesome, thanks Piper!!
    REPLY: (by CometChaser) May 16 2019 11:35am
    Thank You Piper!
    REPLY: (by TruthSeeker) Mar 20 2020 2:43pm
    Im back and would love an updated MMRB if there is one
    REPLY: (by FrogLips) Apr 9 2020 5:29pm
    I would LOVE an updated MMRB Please
    Thank you :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Curtis' Broken Fiddle Bow (Hare Isle)
    REPLY: (by Piper) Mar 24 2020 6:53am
    Curtis' Broken Fiddle Bow (Hare Isle):
    Curtis resides in the same house as Joanna.
    You find out from him that he broke his fiddle bow. In talking to him you find out that it can't be bought at at store but would need to be fixed instead. Well now, You travel a lot but who would fix bows? No one that you can think of off hand. Why is it I feel I'm going to have to travel to get it fixed?
    Well our travel will take us to Crystallton. Talk to Donna there. You learn that she stables white horses ( of course native to the cold) and they have the best white hairi for the bows! Who knew? So off we go to Crystallton.
    Donna Hayes is in the barn. Talk to her about fixing the bow for Curtis. While she's doing that you can talk to some residents for fun or just talk to her to see if its done. There won't be any charge for it and she's already put resin of it, so just take it back to Curtis.
    Curtis is so happy to get it back that he can't wait to play his music!
    Reward: 17 Dinosaur Bones and 50 QP
    REPLY: (by Desertmorn) Apr 11 2020 5:45pm
    Thank you for always being willing to share your solutions!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Apr 12 2020 1:33pm
    Thanks, Piper!
    REPLY: (by Piper) May 2 2020 11:21am
    Always a pleasure! Keep in mind if you do have the old MMRB book to please update it with the quests from here for now.
    I may have to send it in a couple parts to Miranda or see if I have to send it in a zip format. I am working on finding out which quests are missing from the old one so please be patient.

    Stay safe and take care of yourselves!
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    REPLY: (by Piper) Apr 1 2020 12:09am
    Tonight or shall i say early morning around 1:30, I'm doing a few quests and I accept one from Patrica Plum over in Appleton to get some jam from Sandra who is in Flipperton on Dolphin Isle. Please remember this, it is important. So as I know its late I think "Well I can do 2 quests at one time and get them done and over with." So I headed and took wagon to Treeton to get some flowers for one quest, and then accidentally took the boat to Shellton!So I had to poof back and go to the right isle and end one of the quests. hey! at least I got the 'ton' part of the isle right, just not the first part. I have a feeling if I'm up this late again, it's not the first nor last time I'll have a mod blonde moment!
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    *laughing out loud!*. Glad to see you are still enjoying the game!
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Diana's Musical Challenge
    REPLY: (by Piper) May 2 2020 11:22am
    Diana's Musical Challenge (Hare Isle):

    1)Which of the following is important to play the flute?
    You Have to be able to blow into the mouthpiece
    2)What is someone called who plays the flute?
    A flautist.
    3)Which of the following did NOT play the flute?
    Thomas Edison.
    4)The flute is considered what type of instrument?
    Woodwind
    5)Which of the following refers to "Sea Organ"
    "Sea Organ" is the name of a musical instrument played by the sea.
    6)What acoustic musical instrument has both strings like a violin and a keyboard?
    A Hurdy-Gurdy - but it might make you cranky.
    7)What is the oldest known flute ever found?
    The Divje Babe flute, found in the northwest region of Slovenia.
    8)Which U.S. President played the flute?
    John Quincy Adams (1767–1848) The sixth president of the United States.
    9)Which famous Italian violin maker - though long deceased, has a reputation for making instruments regarded as amongst the finest bowed stringed instruments ever created?
    Antonio Stradivari.
    10)Which of the following musical instrument is considered one of the easiest to learn to play?
    The Ukulele
    Reward: $50,000 and 100 QP
    REPLY: (by Piper) May 2 2020 11:23am
    by the way, Dianna is in the same house as Joanna
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 3 2020 1:06pm
    :)
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Mandy's Missing Socks
    REPLY: (by Piper) May 2 2020 6:32pm
    Mandy's Missing Socks (Tail/Polar/Jungle Isle):
    Go to Mandy on Tail Isle and talk to her about Heather and her trip to the Jungle. It was traumatizing for the poor girl to say the least and Mandy has heard of a doll maker over on Polar.
    Well, we're off to Polar to visit Kelda to see if she'll sell us one.
    Well, no she won't, but here's what she needs you to do. Turns out that she's out of the supplies she needs for it, so you need to go seethese people on Jungle for the supplies.
    All the people that you need to talk to are on Jungle Isle so no island hopping to get stuff from other NPC's. ;-)
    Talk to Xamba for the nesting forms.
    He won't need anthing since he already just got some brought into him. he'll tell you they'll be ready in a couple days..which actually means "talk to me in a bit" and come back. He'll give them to you at no charge.
    Talk to Smiddy Jones about the gold leaf. He needs 3 iron ore and he'll make you the gold leaf with a warning to be careful with it so it doesn't blow out of your hand.
    Finally talk to a bug collector about colourful beetle shells. That would be Flicka over on Jungle Isle. Her hut is by the entrance of where Jungle Temple 1 is located at.
    Talk to her about Kelda, Stacie and the bettles and she'll donate you the shells.
    Bring it all back to Kelda on Polar and let her put ot all together and paint them. Go back to her three times and she'll notice that patience is not your strong suit. Go back to her a fourth time. She'll have the doll set ready for you.
    Pay her $2500 for the doll set and agree to tell Kelda how Stacie liked it when you're back in the area. Take it back to Mandy on Tail isle. Give the set to Stacie and then talk to Mandy again.
    Reward: 50k and 150 QP
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 3 2020 1:04pm
    Thanks Piper!
    REPLY: (by Piper) May 3 2020 3:38pm
    DP ...mistake on title.
    Should be Mandy's Gift Idea.
    Sorry about the screw up.
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    REPLY: (by Piper) May 3 2020 5:20pm
    Talk to Mandy on Tail Isle and she will tell you that her dog Maskum took and hid seven of her socks in the forest behind the house. Nice dog huh? Not! Now, you take it upon you to find the lost seven socks of hers that are buried in the forest.
    To make this easy for you, here's where the buried socks of hers are located at.
    1) Stand behind the brown pine tree behind the house and go one step up and one south of the brown pine tree. Stand on the 3 stumps and dig. Well there's one sock found!
    2) The second one is located near the wagon area. There's a cluster of pine trees there, when you first get off the wagon. The first three pine trees dig in the middle of and you'll find the sock.
    Yay found number two! Only 5 more to go!
    3) Go south of the two logs in the forest and stand on the edge of it south if the single rock.
    You found a sock! This one has an orange triangle embroidered on it. One more found! that makes three!
    4) Go to the west a few paces and stand west of the double stumps by the twin pine trees and dig. You found Sock 4, YAY!
    5) Go 10 paces west till you find a cluster that has three trees. Dig in the opening of the U shape that the trees make. There's sock 5
    6) Now in the around same site as where you found number 5 go down where the three trees are below and dig on the right side of them. There's sock 6!
    7) Stand directly south of Nina's house in the forest between two pine trees across from a log and dig. You found sock number 7!
    Bring them back to Mandy. She's glad to have them back!
    Reward: 8 Dino bones and 50 QP
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 12 2020 1:14pm
    Thanks!
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    REPLY: (by Piper) May 3 2020 5:27pm
    Sorry about this, but the one posted under Mandy's Missing Socks" actually should be "Mandy's Gift Idea" quest.
    This for that reason, I posted the other one as Mandy's Quest because I thought having two quests of the same name would make you wonder which was the real one. This is what I get for doing the questing around midnight.
    Whilst others might find it amusing, others might be a bit confused by it, so thus the post. I hope you all are staying safe during this time. Take care and hope to see ya'll on HI!
    Pipsy
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 12 2020 1:13pm
    Thanks Piper!
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    REPLY: (by Piper) May 9 2020 4:49pm
    I thought I'd post this since this happened to me over on Pinto a few days ago when i was the only mod there. It was nice and quiet and I got a PM out of the blue from a player asking an odd question. The conversation went something like this:
    Player: "If someone hits you with the fairy dust, does that mean you get to fly?"
    Granted it took me a couple minutes to figure that they meant "pixie dust"
    "No, I wish it did, but it doesn't"
    Player: "Darn, I didn't think so."

    I had to smile to myself and then laugh. Fairy dust. Well, just another fun day on pinto. Had to share that to brighten your day!

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    REPLY: (by PoisonIvy) May 12 2020 11:25am
    Haha that would be pretty cool though if it did
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 12 2020 1:11pm
    Ooh, we need this!

    Not going to happen as we don't actually have flying, just moving over things on the peggi but ooooh! XD
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    REPLY: (by Piper) May 10 2020 12:29pm
    I have sent the MMRB in zip format to Miranda so anyone Mod or Admin that wants one, please give her a shout out!
    That book now contains over 700 quests! I have fun working on it too!
    Remember to let her know you want one! Thanks! Pip
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    Just so you know, I didn't have time to proof read for typos so please fix at your convenience
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Adobe Flash
    REPLY: (by PoisonIvy) Jun 7 2020 10:22am
    Hey, Ive had a few players asking me if horse isle one will not be able to be played anymore from December 2020 as apparently Adobe Flash is sending out emails saying its not going to work anymore and adobe is being updated for something else?
    Does anyone know if horse isle one will still be playable then for whos asking?
    Thanks
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 7 2020 12:18pm
    There is a thread in the Game forum you can send players to: HI and Flash and 2020.

    I'll bump it up.

    We play on sticking around. There are browsers that say they will allow it. Firefox at this time is planning on allowing it.

    No browser will "support it" meaning no updates, etc. However if they allow it then should be good.

    Chrome is also possibly... Going to allow it, just not support it. Not sure though. Microsoft Edge may also allow it. Again, no one has made a firm commitment yet so we are still kind of in limbo.

    But there are a lot of Flash games still running, so I can't really see browser companies actually blocking it.
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    Ok I will tell them to go and read it in forums thanks DP
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    REPLY: (by Verruckt) Jun 24 2020 7:43pm
    I'm seeing more and more players post about "looking for" or "selling" a "hot" whatever. Strikes me as not okay, but wanted clarification since I've been out of the game for a bit and if it's not okay, how do you go about correcting it. Thanks!
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    REPLY: (by AppleBay) Jul 31 2020 12:19pm
    Had a player message me about them, logged in 12 times and top of the Quest Point list with more exp than there should be *laughing out loud!*

    25 Most Quest Points Completed!
    #1: 97,050 pts - JamesTaylor

    Max is currently 63,005
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 1 2020 10:13pm
    Does look like a hacker, sorry took so long to get to reply to this.

    Player hopefully, won't be returning.
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    VIEWING MOD FORUM THREAD: Hacker
    REPLY: (by AppleBay) Jun 30 2021 9:27am
    Hey folks!

    I've had a player (Haineko) come forward to discuss a recent hacking that happened on Pinto - I understand the player/hacker has now been banned, however Haineko has voiced their frustration and upset that multiple players online at the time (I'm sorry, I don't have any names to put forward) were apparently given max bank, 50 pellets and 50 PO's from the hacker. Some players also ('Bonify' and 'Rebel' to name but a few) appear to a have pegasus/unicorns/unipeg in their horse list to 'keep'.

    If this is true, understandably it's not fair for some players to have an advantage over others due to a hacker. Obviously the current situation with the game has changed, so I don't know if anything can be done to remedy this? Sounds like it could be a mammoth task if anything could be done.

    Thanks :)
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 30 2021 9:36am
    We are ignoring this.

    Joe has (hopefully) blocked the hackers access to player accounts/database. Also hopefully, from going onto my account... >.<

    As long as all he does is mess around with pellets, unipeg's etc. Fine.

    The only answer to stop that is to close the game down permanently.

    So if players are having too much of a fuss about this Joe will just close HI1.

    The work to attempt to block this is tremendous, the game is very old, there aren't many players any longer so he is not willing to take away from HI3 time to try and fix this.

    Basically HI1 is left up for nostalgia and the few players that are still enjoying it. Hopefully it will stay up for a while!

    At this time it is supporting itself, at least most of the time which also helps keeping it up.

    But if it's too much of a problem for players to deal with the cheating of 1 person then Joe will just take the game down.

    Players need to just ignore the unipegs/pegasi/unicorns. Pretend they don't exist. So if someone has some maxed they need to take the stance of "don't care" and go on about maxing their horses.

    For those players who have used some of the given extra pellets to promote their horses, just ignore those horses. They don't exist as it wasn't done fairly, so not important.

    That would if we could just get the players to do this, eliminate the issue. But it's up to the players if they want to get worked up over it. *laughing out loud!*
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    REPLY: (by TellingElephant) Jul 16 2021 7:17am
    That worked?
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    Welcome to the SUPPORT forum. (by Joe) May 3 2007 6:00pm
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    VIEWING SUPPORT FORUM THREAD: Having trouble seeing the new breeds or redone breeds?
    REPLY: (by Varekai) Oct 7 2008 2:14am
    There are various ways you could solve this problem allowing you to be able to see the new breeds

    1.Re-start your computer, maybe your computer has been on for a long time and just needs to be reset.

    2.You should try deleting your cookies. The main purpose of a cookie is to identify users, if you filled in a form all this data will be stored in your web browser until a later day. Cookies are NOT needed and can all be deleted without problems occuring.

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    -Click on 'tools' at the top of the browser
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    -Click on 'clear private data'
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    Click 'OK' again and this should clear all cached pages.

    FOR FIREFOX

    Open the Firefox browser and navigate to the Tools menu (for Windows users) or the Firefox menu (for Mac users).

    View the drop down menu display and choose Options (for Windows) or Preferences (for Macs). A new dialog box will appear

    Click the Privacy icon to get to the cache options. Now you can click the 'Clear Now' button.

    Watch for a drop down box to appear with numerous checkable boxes. Check 'Cache' and press the 'Clear Private Data Now' button

    Press the 'OK' button (Windows) or simply close the preferences box (Mac). Your cache will now be clear.


    I hope this helps and that you can now see the new breeds and the re done breeds of Horse Isle
    REPLY: (by Varekai) Oct 8 2008 4:47am
    To clear cache and cookies on Safari -
    'Empty Cache' which will get rid of your cached files

    To clear your cookies -

    Click on 'Preferences'

    Then click on 'Security'

    After click on 'Show Cookies' then 'Remove All'. This should clear your cookies.

    If anyone else had a different browser, just say! :)
    REPLY: (by Varekai) Nov 2 2008 11:17pm
    I'm not saying this will exactly help you, it should help but there is no guarantee that it will work.

    If you still can't see them -
    -Your computer may be old or your graphics card is small.

    Remember I can't say exactly whats wrong without seeing your computer so I just have to give some information and tips via the computer

    Many Thanks, Varekai!
    REPLY: (by Varekai) Nov 4 2008 11:12pm
    To delete cookies for MAC -

    Clean cookies in Internet Explorer (IE) for MAC:
    . Open your internet browser
    . Click "Explorer"
    . Then click "Preferences..."
    . Double click the "Receiving Files" button(with the small triangle) until you see the triangle facing down!
    . Double click "Cookies"
    . Then click "Delete" button
    . Hit the "OK" button.

    To delete cache -
    1. From the top menu bar, click Edit, and select Preferences.
    2. Click Advanced.
    3. Click Cache.
    4. Click Clear Memory Cache button.
    5. Click the Clear Disk Cache button.
    6. Click OK.

    This is just one way to delete cookies and cache, I could help you abit more if you could tell me what browser you use, like safari, explorer or netscape.

    Many Thanks
    REPLY: (by Varekai) Jan 2 2009 11:31am
    Sorry, I thought I had already posted tips on Safari. Here it is ....

    Deleting Cookies -
    Click safari and search for preferences.
    Then select the security icon.
    Click on the 'show cookies' button.
    Then you can selecte the cookies you want to be deleted from the list.
    To end, click the delete button.
    (Rememeber that there are differen versions of Safari and the settings may be completely different)

    To clear your cache -
    Click on the safari tab.
    Then search for Empty Cache.
    Are you sure you want to empty the cache? Click empty.

    Restart your browser for all the new changes to take effect.
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    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jun 23 2011 1:31pm
    Also check out Varekai's post :)

    You may have a corrupted file. Log off, clear out your browser's cache (delete history files.) This is different for each browser.

    Firefox:
    Tools -> Clear Recent History -> make sure Cache is selected, then click Clear Now.

    Internet Explorer:
    Safety -> Delete Browsing History -> make sure History and Temporary Internet Files are checked, then click Delete.

    Google Chrome:
    Wrench icon -> Options -> Under the Hood tab -> Clear browsing data -> make sure 'Clear browsing history' and 'Empty the cache' are checked, then click 'Clear browsing data'. Or: Wrench Icon -> Tools -> Clear Browsing Data.

    Safari for Mac:
    Safari -> Empty Cache -> Click Empty.

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    Edit -> Empty Cache -> Click Empty.

    If this does not solve your problem, do it again, then shut down your computer completely, wait for at least 30 seconds, then start it back up again.
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    VIEWING SUPPORT FORUM THREAD: UTs
    REPLY: (by Apricots) Jul 14 2011 5:34pm
    Need to know how to do UTs? Ever had someone try to explain it to you and just haven't been able to get it? Read this!


    It hels if you are at least in 6th grade and/pr cn read bar graphs, but if you can't, I will explain that at the bottom of this page.

    This is a mathematical statement for calculating UTs, I'll take you through it step by step.
    Divide the sum of the max personality and intelligence by the sum of the horses personality and intellegence. Move decimal.
    or...
    (MP+MI)/(P+I)= UTs

    OK. Step 1. Open your computer calculator, or grab one in your house.

    2. Find the breed max for personality and intellegence. (If you cannot figure out how to do this, skip to the last step). Our example numbers will be 800 for Intellegence and 900 for personality. This equals 1700. Remember/write down that number.

    3. Add the horse's personality and intellegence. This would be the white number at the bottom. Our example numbers will be 700 for Intellegence and 800 for Personality. This equals 1500.

    4. Divide the second number (1500). By the firt number (1700). Or just remember "smaller by lager."
    This is 0.882352...

    5. Move the decimal. 88.2352...

    6. Cut it off.
    88.2
    It may be tempting to round, but it's best to just cut it off. I personally like to include the second number after the decimal if it is 5 or above.


    Now! If you can't read bar graphs...
    There are 2 simple solutions. I teach you how to do it or give you a horse isle shortcut... kind of...

    The shortcut would simply be to go to the library, look up the breed you are doing UTs on, and the white numbr is the max for that breed, and that horse.

    It's actually faster to just look at the top of the red arrows to determine the max. If you look at the lines, they have a number to the right of them. The first line has 500 next to it, which means that line is 500. Every little line between the numbers respresents 100, so going up from 500, add 100 for every line. and if the top of the arrows is in between 2 lines, it will be the line below plus, or the line above minus 50. Say it was in between the
    700 and the 800, it would be 750. It may sound complicaed, but really, you can just look at it and see where it's at.


    Enjoy doing Uts!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 1 2011 7:02pm
    Here is my formula as well, hopefully this will also be of help to some. :)

    Add what the horse could have = intel + pers. Then add what the horse has = intel + pers. Then divide what the horse has, by what it could have, then multiply by 100 for the %.
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    VIEWING SUPPORT FORUM THREAD: Datong Head Lumps
    REPLY: (by Fawn) May 1 2018 2:03pm
    Just curious if the Datong's were supposed to have the two bumps protruding from their head..
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) May 1 2018 4:30pm
    Yes they are supposed to have that as it's a part of the breed.

    theequinest dot com

    Intro
    The Datong breed of China dates back something like 4000 years and they are native to the Datong River basin in the northern Qinghai Province. This breed has been known for centuries for its physical connections to the Dragon Horse, a strain with exceptional powers of endurance.

    Origins
    The Dragon Horse appeared under the reign of King Mu and have been immortalized in ancient Chinese art. They were said to have 2 small, bony projections on their forehead that resembled horns. The Datong horse can be born with theses same bony projections, although little faith is put into legends of horned horses these days. Today it is considered a flaw and animals born with them are not bred.

    There are two types of Datong horses, heavy & light riding type. The lighter type tends to have a drier head, longer limbs and less hair than it’s heavier counterpart.

    :)
    REPLY: (by Faithless) Sep 27 2018 10:25am
    The Moyle is the same way. They also have “horns” in real life.
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    VIEWING SUPPORT FORUM THREAD: Failed to Connect to Server
    REPLY: (by Borealis) Dec 25 2018 9:49am
    For about 24 hours, I've not been able to connect to Dun. I tried a different server (Pinto) and it worked just fine, but Dun keeps saying server error. Is it down, it's been down for me since yesterday afternoon.
    REPLY: (by TwinklingBat) Dec 25 2018 11:24am
    And I am unable to connect to Grey, since yesterday as well. :/
    REPLY: (by Cake) Dec 25 2018 11:31am
    Unable to connect to Chestnut server as of 2:31 pm EST
    REPLY: (by Unforgotten) Dec 25 2018 1:42pm
    I would like to add something that could purely be coincidental and maybe unrelated, but not out of the question.
    Yesterday I bought a PO on pinto and this morning I had a fraud charge on my credit card; someone stole my credit card info. Since this occurred right after I feel as though someone could have possibly hacked the server. I also never use this card and have a secure computer so I don't think it's my computer's fault. But I think something is definitely going on with the servers.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 25 2018 9:37pm
    @Unforgotten. We have no billing information, we also have blocks in place to prevent hacking, however if by chance someone did manage to do so they have zero access to billing info since we don't have that.

    Only PayPal has that. We just get the money and what it's to be applied to/for.

    Sometimes with updates you need to clear your cache. To do that it's Ctrl + Shift + Del for most browsers. Then close the browser. Then re-load it and see if you can then get on.

    Not all players had a problem, so it's not strictly the game.

    If you still have problems, try a different browser. Google Chrome is currently working best but if not try Edge or Firefox (currently a bit glitchy but sometimes it works.)

    Make sure you have the latest Adobe Flash Player download/update. If that doesn't work then try an older version and see if that will work...

    This seems to be a browser vs Adobe Flash issue. Though it might also be occasional network interference if it's sporadic, (which we have no control over.)
    REPLY: (by Kip) Dec 26 2018 2:46pm
    Hi, just wanted to add that Black Server is being affected too. I haven't been able to log on the last 24 hours.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Dec 26 2018 3:50pm
    Yep, passed Black server issue onto Miranda. I was able to log onto it yesterday but not today...

    The other servers seem to be working for me though.

    And as I type this, Miranda has Black server back up! Yay! :)
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    VIEWING SUPPORT FORUM THREAD: NPC's not finishing their sentences
    REPLY: (by TheGuitarist) Jun 26 2019 2:08pm
    Hello! I've asked around and apparently this has been an issue for a lot of players. It's when I am talking to an NPC about a quest and their conversations just stop mid sentence. It's been really hard to do questing now because of this. Especially if it involves doing a quiz for an NPC. They will half start a question and you have to answer it. Some people suggested to zoom out, but I am unable to do that on my chromebook. Thanks!
    REPLY: (by OutFoxed) Jun 29 2019 3:36pm
    I have found that depending on the size of the window I have the game running on - the amount of NPC text changes. The best solution I've found is to use the (Enter the World) (Bigger Borders Version) (Same Window Version) buttons to enter the game instead of opening a new tab directly to the server. It's a pain and took me a couple of days to get used to it when I got a new laptop (as it was absolutely fine on my older one). But it seems to have worked just fine. Something about the dimensions and zoom.
    REPLY: (by DesertWind) Jul 1 2019 1:23pm
    What OutFoxed said. If that doesn't work, try highlighting the upper right box where the text should be and see if that brings it up.
    REPLY: (by TheGuitarist) Jul 2 2019 12:07am
    I'm still having trouble with it :/ But I appreciate the help!
    REPLY: (by TheGuitarist) Jul 2 2019 12:15am
    I noticed that I can't finish quests because of this issue as well. Like, I'll have to look up how to finish a quest, but even with the help of the site, it won't allow me to find these quest items. I.e., Lucy, The Dancing Snake Quest, I should be able to search at the rocks to find her, however, she isn't there. All it says is that I cleared the rocks. I just want to get to 75% already! XD
    REPLY: (by DesertWind) Jul 2 2019 1:20pm
    For the snake quest... Make sure you have talked to the people you need to talk to. If one of them won't talk to you then there are other quests you need to do first. :)

    The text issue isn't something we can replicate, so it isn't really something with the game, it has to do with browser vs Adobe Flash.

    Try using Google Chrome as your browser if you aren't already. If you are already using it try Mozilla Firefox. See if that helps.
    REPLY: (by TheGuitarist) Jul 2 2019 9:51pm
    I will try that, thank you!
    REPLY: (by TheGuitarist) Jul 3 2019 5:28pm
    I switched computers and it doesn't seem to be a problem on this one. Maybe I'll just stick to questing on this comp xD
    REPLY: (by DesertWind) Jul 4 2019 12:50pm
    Glad you can finally do the quests! :)
    REPLY: (by Wildflower) Jan 12 2020 5:54am
    Sorry to bring up an old post - this is definitely an issue for me on a new laptop! Sometimes highlighting works and sometimes it doesn't.
    REPLY: (by DesertWind) Jan 12 2020 4:51pm
    It's a computer vs browser issue. Try Google Chrome if you aren't already. If you are, see if Mozilla Firefox or MS Edge will work. The latter may not support Flash at this time, I'm not sure.
    REPLY: (by Elanor) Jan 26 2020 7:42am
    Yea it's not working for me either sadly. can see answers to select but the question isn't showing
    REPLY: (by SweetUnicorn) Apr 1 2020 9:25pm
    Are you zoomed in? My game does this when I'm zoomed.
    REPLY: (by Lief) May 12 2020 6:29am
    This is an old thread but this happens when you zoom in your browser screen. Double click on the text, or where the text should be, and then drag down and it will scroll to show the full text.
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    REPLY: (by MightyHorse) Mar 31 2020 1:42am
    i paid for them and have been off almost a day and have earned only $500 when it says im suppose to get 35,000 every 12 game hours.
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    VIEWING SUPPORT FORUM THREAD: ENH Tack Placement
    REPLY: (by Smaug) Jun 30 2020 1:10pm
    Hello!

    I've noticed the tack on the ENH sits quite far on their back almost on their rears.
    Is there any way to be able to move it up so our pixelated friends don't have any bucking
    fits due to sitting on the "floating ribs"? ;)

    Thanks!
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Jul 1 2020 11:56am
    Not really I don't think. Once it's there it's there, and we can't really alter it now that it's live in the game.

    The tack can be made smaller or larger, but that's all the alteration that works for this version of Flash unfortinately.
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    VIEWING SUPPORT FORUM THREAD: The Great Hacking
    REPLY: (by SensibleWitch) Aug 7 2020 7:07am
    Hey mods and admins,

    Is it possible to confirm whether or not player passwords were compromised during the hacking? I had an account on another site with a similar (not same but still dumb) password (which have since been changed, randomized and put into a pw protector) that was hacked as well soon after the Great Hacking of 2020

    thanks all
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Aug 7 2020 12:16pm
    If you did, you should change it.

    The hacker did have access to the passwords. Which, is why we locked all accounts until passwords could be changed.

    Now, as to whether the hacker paid any attention to those passwords, no idea, other than they got on my account... No damage done however.

    Joe has set several security measures in place and done a Lot of code tweaking. So passwords should be much safer now! :)

    Honestly, the hacker was targeting this game and trying to mess it up. I doubt they were interested in players personal passwords/accounts. We are just being super safe, and well... Better safe than sorry.

    And we take the security of our players accounts seriously. Flash is a bit of a problem to make secure and this is a very old game that was not designed to be all that locked in safe. (The word was much nicer back in 2007 when the game was created.)

    But Joe has done a lot to improve the security.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Sep 19 2020 7:33pm
    And again... Please be sure you change your password once you unlock your account.

    Hopefully this won't happen again. It only hurts players.
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    VIEWING SUPPORT FORUM THREAD: Input lag?
    REPLY: (by Toucan) Oct 3 2020 1:05pm
    For the past few days I've been having bad input lag when trying to use my arrow keys. It's worse around towns/more detailed landscapes. My internet connection is fine (~120mbs down/10 up from a speed test) and the game says I'm consistently running at 20-21 FPS. Low detail mode doesn't help. I tried using a different browser and adjusting some Flash settings (hardware acceleration and storage) but that hasn't worked either. Is there something else I could try? The lag is bad enough that it's hard to play.
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Oct 4 2020 12:02pm
    Try clearing cache: Ctrl + Shift + Del for Windows.

    Log off then back on frequently (clears out the buffer,) = Lag Dump.

    See if that helps.
    REPLY: (by Toucan) Oct 5 2020 4:11pm
    It helped a little! I also noticed that clearing the chat logs helps somewhat. Thank you!
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    VIEWING SUPPORT FORUM THREAD: New way to connect to HI?
    REPLY: (by SportsLover) Feb 16 2021 8:18pm
    I noticed now that flash is not supported, I am not able to log in. I have a google chromebook. Is there a way that I can access my account? I have tried the different methods that pops up when I log in, but my computer isn't responding. I'm probably out of luck. ha
    REPLY: (by DesertPaint) Feb 21 2021 12:29pm
    Unfortunately for chromebooks there isn't any way. The game now requires a small download for the Flash Projector.

    Chromebooks don't allow for downloads. :(
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